Talk:Zyra/@comment-4952847-20140728172757/@comment-9533487-20140818183514

1.86 seconds sounds like more than enough time to cast Zyra combo. The main problem with doing it like this is, if the opponent is not already cc'ed, there's no guarantee that you'll land it correctly.

It takes almost a second for her q's damage to occur, and at 400 units per second of champion movespeed, you can practically walk through the thickest area of the spell from one side to the other without getting hit (but don't quote me on that since I haven't tested it.)

It isn't very hard to QWWER, as I was saying before--it IS hard to qwewr in the same amount of time, though, which is the deadlier single target combo. Here's an example of how fast it is. When playing Zyra mid once in s3, the entire enemy team began pushing for my turret since they just got the dragon and killed our jungler. They were all ranged except for their jungler, so they bunched up really nicely while killing it. I was able to flash in and EQWWR on them while their Vayne's E animation was in the process of stunning me against the wall. Our Leona ulted them and our Caitlyn autoed a few times, ulted, and we aced them in like...5s?

I had to flash in because max range snare takes too long to reliably hit (or even if it would certainly hit, the snare duration isn't long enough to run towards them and not have them walk out of q+ult), and I needed them locked down in that exact spot to pull it off. If you're talking about that Zyra landing their full combo in that amount of time from almost max range without any cc on you, you either derped out pretty hard or they were a god at landing their shit (or, as you said, they used a macro--which is unlikely considering how simple it is to combo like that in certain situations).