Talk:Fiora/@comment-89.214.30.30-20130303025828/@comment-4094339-20130306180840

@XelNecra

I'm only going to touch on several egregious errors you've made in your post because I've already invested too much time without results in the other thread with you in the thread below.

"Even the MS-Bonus of Burst of Speed is more reliable. I dont see Lunge as a reliable escape tool working."

They work in conjecture with each other, Q procs E's MS boost so you use E then Q to gain the MS stack more quickly then autoattacking. Fiora has no reliably escapes but that doesn't mean you should ignore her situation ones.

"Now: what is poke? Poke is dealing damage in a small time window while giving the enemy not enough time to respond in that time window, and thereby come out ahead in the trade by inflicting more damage than he can reflect in the same time. So saying it is for poke and not for damage makes no sense, since poke is all about the damage you deal."

Your english as a second language is showing. MisterSausage is saying its NOT JUST about the damage BUT ALSO its utility in poking and disengaging. That means both matter, the damage and the ability to deal damage instantly without haven't to auto-attack for long periods.

"Lunge gains the ability 30 damage per rank"

Read the tooltips above. It gains 50 damage per rank. Your math after that is poorly explained and formatted and I'm not even going to go there because I've already discussed that with you in the other post below.

"Burst of Speed active, you deal 35 extra AD with each hit. During those 3 seconds you do at least 3 autoattacks, that equals 105 bonus damage already, so actually you would already have a damage increase without "

This assumes the people maxing Q first don't get at least 1 level of W for its 15 AD at rank 1. That is incorrect.

"Blade Waltz)  So, even when you just combo with ONLY your skills, this would mean that you still come out ahead in terms of burst damage. However, on top of that, also every single autoattack deals more damage, and you don't poke without autoattacking at least once, on top of that you are able to max "

See my responses to XelNecra in the thread below where he claims

"Max Riposte first. No exceptions." I'm not going to repeat myself. Instead, if you want to understand the Q vs. W debate, read the thread below, then read these guides for a better understanding of her http://www.lolking.net/guides/37526 and http://www.newsoflegends.com/index.php/advanced-strategies-a-frenchwomans-fencing-4816/