Talk:Twisted Fate/@comment-139.130.57.34-20110805235806/@comment-62.163.192.206-20110807204850

The main issue I have with the nerf is that summoner teleport is roughly as good as TF's ult now. I mean sure you need a target for summoner teleport, but if you can push a lane or simply ward properly and you'll have plenty of targets with a way better range then TF's ult. So yeah, before you could easily counter TF with summoner tele, now you completely outclass TF with summoner tele. Also, for example nocture, out shines TF in every department, he has better CC, more defenses, more dmg and also a large range ult (that's also why I now play nocture and not TF, the 2 are similar 1 is just 100x better in every way you look at it).