Talk:Elise/@comment-94.134.195.92-20121111131607

So she turns out to be another (top) Nid. Only AP of course. Basically super annoying high base damage poke which zones you quite hard and decent 1v1 ability with all her spiderlings (when build a bit defensive, not pure AP). Think her shitty ratios and really high base damages allow her to rush a Frozen Heart first vs Ad heavy tops and after that you dont give a shit anymore. Also the CDR works wonders with the good base damage.

But at some point you reach mid/lategame and the teamfights and you realize that your just a big fat meatshield with mediocre damage. Only good thing you have is the Morgana like stun that can catch someone offguard.

So imo shes on the UP side atm. Not terribly weak but needs something to be effective. Its basically when you want to deal decent damage later on you need AP but then you will be squishy and cant use your Spiderform. When you want to use your Spiderform youll need defense and your damage will suck. Yes, there are AP items that give defensive stats but theyre all freaking expensive and delay your Rabadons which again cripples your damage. Imo her Spiderform needs to get more attractive (not visually :p). You basically only get a bit of defense and laughable on-hit damage. Your skills in Spiderform arent really stronger than in human form besides the mana costs. When i look at Nid then its a bit unfair cause her Cougar skills are really badass.

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