Talk:Garen/Strategy/@comment-24774649-20140409173238/@comment-24621775-20140601112200

Personally, I think Warmogs is shit on Garen, because I think full tank Garen is shit, and bruiser Garen has no inventory space for Warmogs. The way I like to build Garen is with 2 damage items (normally Black Cleaver/ Last Whisper and IE), and 4 tanky items. Because of  his W passive, building items with bonus resists synergize really well with his kit, allowing him to become really tanky, and also do signifcant damage. I normally go for Merc Treads/ Sunfire/ Randuins/ Banshee's or GA, with my damage items interspersed depending on how the game is going.

The reason I think full tank Garen is shit, is because against competent players, they will just ignore you completely. The only thing you're good for is being a walking silence, a randuin's proc, and a big damage soak, but a good team will basically just ignore you and laugh at your non existent damage. In lower elo's, against shit players, sure- you can probably distract them and get them to blow cooldowns trying to kill you.

Garen's kit lends itself more to an offtank role- since he has no real gap closer or CC, he can't reliably initiate, so I see him as a dive buddy type champ. With his huge natural tankiness and tenacity, all you have to do is press W + Q, run up to their carries and start beyblading their asses. With 2 damage items, they can't ignore you, as you will fuck their carries up pretty hard. To me, this is much more threatening and useful than full tank Garen, who's really only useful against shit players.