Thread:Cat2006house/@comment-27227786-20151122155258/@comment-11218751-20151123080344

Noctu2n wrote: Hey, yeah, now I can definitely see your point and I must admit that I am divided. I have to think about longer to make up my mind, but it is very ambiguous in my opinion. Targeting types is determined at the point of activation (so if you are not using quick cast, it would be the input after pressing the ability button to the left click to finally cast the spell) and I think auto target is the wrong word for Sona's E. Sona's Song of Celerity does not select a target at all as Orianna's W or R would do. Orianna's W and R are ground targeted, but since there is no input from the player immediately before W or R are casted, they are considered auto-targeted. This is not the case with Sona, but she still has no "target input".

So I am divided and I think I will think about it more, perhaps propose a definition change for the ability categorization to the forums.

So you are arguing auto-targeting is determined on whether or not the initial cast of a spell automatically chooses a target? I'd say this factor is pretty much non-determinant, imo, because it really doesn't matter whether the initial cast chooses the target(s) as long as it does automatically choose target(s) for the duration of the spells.