Talk:Urgot/@comment-5300011-20140127043728/@comment-8053512-20140208045755

Ya I went out to work so I never got to correct the math with the extra Q snuck in there (my bad).

But still % total more damage is still % more total damage no matter how much armor they have stacked, so that is still true in math.

Q or E first is close damage with each other when you all in burst. You  were making it sound like E does no damage compared to Q and in fact in short trades E is alot better period unless you miss but that is true with any champion whether it's Lee Sin or Ziggs and if you can land skill shots either of them I'm sure you will land Urgots aswell.

But I still can't see the benifit of "Q" First, I can always shoot a E and choose not to fallow with any Q but you can't say the same for Q wthout E first.

If you miss with your E you are still never going to land more then a single Q. And very good luck landing a Q,E,QQQ combo. You will be right in the open on a slow champion, better hope you kill with that combo.

Only if the other adc walks right out in front, stops and melee minion do not agro on you and walk right between the two of you duking it out will mixing auto attacks and Q together win trades.

I'm just saying you see he's mana regen goes from about 50 to 70 per 30 secs and  his E  goes from 50 to 70 in the same levels, think Riot did not balance for that?

Poop on Urgot all you want comparing him to other champions, I know he can win hard in lane if played right, not so much when built wrong or if poor understanding of his skill kit. Urgot does not need a built in Tear every game to manage his mana costs, it's that simple.