Talk:Udyr/@comment-28642928-20160618034753/@comment-26203093-20160618123224

what I most wish they'd do, isn't really to buff him but have turtle heal him for all damage dealt again; I don't care if they reduce the number - he builds a lot of on-hit and deals damage from abilities, and his slaps just don't do enough in that stance for it be viable to stay in AT ALL. You only ever use turtle for the shield unless you're building like a freak.