User blog comment:AtheistUntoDeath/Which of these Champions Would win? Part 4/@comment-24946635-20140524231644/@comment-10257787-20140525095136

I agree with a few of your arguments bro, but some of them are outright wrong

"As I have pointed out above, gameplay is highly unreliable at judging the ability of particular champions. While you can use in game abilities to judge the general things particular champions can do (with some exceptions. I'm looking at you, Miss Fortune), do not take the effectiveness of these abilities as proof. Stick to lore as much as possible (which includes observations, judgements and the journal of justice)"

that basically means, that the situation you described is a completely different one outside the league. It highly benefits the ingame experience that abilites and champions are able to go through walls, but that doesn't mean that they can outside the league too. Just imagine, this walls are supposed to be little mountains, and no  a champion can jump over them? Highly unlogical, we shouldn't assume that anyone is able to do that outside the league.

Also, Viktor has already produced intelligent beings, meaning that his drone for example could possess some sort of intelligence too. I don't really think that it could match Oriannas balls level of self awareness, but still, gameplay may give you hints what the champion is capable of doing, but that doesn't mean that it is an exact indicator

That Viktors q never misses isn't true at all: that's just a gameplay factor, in this duell Viktors q could miss hundreds of times if Orianna dodges it properly, although it IS in fact shown to be very fast. That the ball can teleport can also be just an ingame factor for the sake of balance. As i see it, Oriannas Command Protect serves the purpose of letting the ball especially fast return to her, which also implies that it can't teleport on will.

Another thing would be, that we can't trust Oriannas mobility all to far. While her lore or ingame ablities never really showed that she's that mobile, Viktors never really said that he isn't. Don't get me wrong, i don't say that Orianna's just a clunky piece of metal, just as i don't want to imply that Viktor is now a prima ballerina, i just say that we don't have reliable prove for that thesis

For the firepower part, you're mostly right. It doesn't really matter that viktors deathray deals more damage then oriannas Dissonance for example, but what matters is, that viktors abilites have other advantages. We now nothing about the damage this abilites would really deal, but if they all meant a one hit kill, then Viktor's the advantage of a pretty big arsenal. Orianna always has to hit him with her ball while Viktor's got other options of attacking. His q is shown to be very fast, his w can block whole areas of the map, his deathray is probably very fast as well (we see no travel time, so lets assume it is a laser) and can cut through metal pieces, destroying every cover Orianna could hide behind. And last but not least, his chaos storm is high range, can move around and has a high area of effect. a little fact just for the sake of it: Viktor is ~20cm taller then Orianna, so her that she's smaller isn't really and advantage.

Last of all, don't forget Viktor's a genius, who combines the best of human and machine and permanently works to improve himself, while Orianna is a strange machine without real intelligence nor motivation. Let that sink in for a minute, then you'll see that it's pretty obvious who will win here