Talk:Garen/@comment-83.196.94.64-20121201170100/@comment-46.7.207.128-20121201175101

I agree with Jayce but not Kayle. At least in normal 5v5, you have to wait for her to Q you, rather than the other way around. Once that is done, she has to waste mana to heal/speed bump herself and you can either outlast her if she is keen on retaliating via her ranged harass or you can BADLY hurt her in a single trade, assuming you can engage her post Q/Q. If she continues to cycle through her spells as such, she WILL run low/out of mana, and Garen can easily harass or heal up.

Be it by direct trades or attrition, Garen can  get an edge. If she succesfully Q's you before you Q or time it poorly, run into a brush to alleviate her ranged harass. She has the tools to counter Garen, but unlike Darius, Garen can actually compete quite well if correctly played.