Talk:Udyr/Strategy/@comment-70.243.123.67-20120829155413/@comment-4652200-20121007191709

You have to auto-attack to do any dmg with Udyr so AD is NEVER wasted (even if you go AP Udyr for some reason) and you will pcoc both and  at the same range. slows on every auto-attack for 35% and gives more health than which slows for 15% with both Pheonix and Tiger stance.

So it's 35% slow on every attack vs 15% every 3rd attack.

I pitty you if you still want Rylai's.