Talk:Ziggs/@comment-5259099-20130319083539

please let us clear lichbane on ziggs...

early sheen advantage is clear...one of the highest aa range in mid 575 (besides annie) so you will harass with Q and passive aa or not?! lets say lvl3 with 20 ap. Q dmg 90+aa 60+passive 40 = 190 possible every 8 seconds.

in late, let´s say 400ap.

you can burst with

Q 515dmg

AA+passive ~380dmg

lichbane 350dmg

=1245dmg!! with Q+AA only!!! this makes you one of the strongest burst champs in the game!

with E+R you kill now 90% if you miss both, you have your passive ready again and Q for another 1245dmg. (q cooldown 4seconds and passive 12-4-4=4[every time use an ability reduced by 4])

i know you poke with your Q, but one day the fight will start, f.e a teammate grab/stun enemy carry...down asap!! a xin E on you...W to get away, burst...xin dead...

why shouldnt i use my passive to the fullest?! i am only gold player, but for me, lichbane works very well. some mana in early, greater harass...heavy burst in late...