Talk:Irelia/@comment-4636093-20120528182307/@comment-4957501-20120530174043

Phage doesn't work as well TriForce because after you get peeled after you Q in, you have no way of closing the gap with the kiting carry without TriForce's bonus MS, even if you do manage to proc Phage with the Q. The E won't stun unless the carry is at a lower HP than you, and since Irelia is played as off tank most often that'll be the most likely scenario.

As for being one of the best carry killers in the game, I definitely disagree with that. Even though she's tagged as one, Irelia's damage is probably the most sustained as opposed to bursty among all the Assasins in the game and as a result can't do as good a job as any regular assasin at killing carries, since carries excel in sustained damage. And I haven't even touched what burst mages like LeBlanc and Veigar can do to carries. She doesn't have an incredible late, she has an incredible mid game, and it's not despite of having a sucky early game, it's because of having a sucky early game. Irelia trades having an incredibly weak early and a deteriorating late for having possibly one of the strongest mid games.

@Krufix I know you weren't, I was just saying it's one of those conditional potentially high damage abilites in reply to your first post. And in hindsight you're probably right about Skarner, I completely forgot about him.