Talk:Renekton/@comment-5009341-20120711175149/@comment-70.40.154.45-20120712161408

... You must be really dumb to think that Renekton is UP. He is a freakin monster in lane. He is probably one of the best melee solo top champions and though he does fall off slightly late game, it doesn't really matter since he has an excellent transitionning which basically allows you as Renekton to have your complete build before the enemy has the time to even get 4-5 complete items.

Xin on the other hand doesn't even have an OP early game to justify his useless existence late-game (unlike Renek who is only balanced thanks to his lack of late game utility and/or major steroid). And no, Xin wasn't brokenly OP before the last batch of nerfs he received. If you considered the pre-nerf Xin (note: The one exactly before the last nerf patch) OP, then you might as well consider Darius OP, and the same with any other pubstomping champions.

So yeah, stop underestimating Renekton and start realizing how ridiculously weak Xin is compared to practically anything else.