Talk:Renekton/@comment-5365344-20120803215659/@comment-5009341-20120805113138

^the Aoe on slice and dice is quite small, compared to other damaging dashes

rene is much much weaker then many carries due to his 3 Aoe abilities, his passive doesnt help him much (thats also 1 point of why his passive doesnt fit in his kit)

darius w's cd is very low and can be reduced even further by hemophage stacks...

q is very useful in teamfights (when u hit 3-5 enemies with fury empowered q early game, u will understand why it has a hardcap), but yeah the damage against laneminions should be reduced (not against jungle monsters though); the main problem of q is its high cd (thats why i suggested the passive for w)