Talk:Shyvana/@comment-7818256-20131005202454/@comment-5209745-20131007000020

I've played Poppy for some time, and I would say it's mostly because she's so UP that she's challenging to play with (At least for the laning phase), and theorycrafters love her because she can be build as an AP assassin, an AD/AP hybrid, or a tanky DPS; or even as a little mix of those three! Plus, when you play some games with her, you see that her kit is kinda unique, and that when the rework time comes, it could be even painful, depending on what they change on her (Personally, I don't mind changing the passive and the ult, and tweaking the Q, but I do really hope they leave intact her W and E).

On the other hand, Shyv is not exactly OP, but she's an excelent counterjungler, maybe just countered by Udyr and Olaf. However some don't get how to itemize her, someothers find her itemization kinda rude, and at the end of the day, junglers are supposed to lend kills to their laners and support, whereas Shyv is more focused towards killing her prey and carrying a game if played well.

None of them fit the meta, Shyv is obviously in a far better spot than Poppy, but Poppy feels so outlandish that playing with her becomes insteresting at some point. That said, I would still take Shyv over Poppy all day everyday.