Talk:Hecarim/@comment-112.202.162.196-20130101071110/@comment-2248060-20130101163416

uhhh.... get both? Jax is only 1350 ip thats like 13 matches.... so just buy both eventualy

but if it really matters Jax is okay in the jungle but he cant get to his usual "1v5 the enemy team and come out alive" state in the jungle, he just becomes a barely passable tank so in all respects Hecerim is much better, his first clear is slow and hes venurable to counter jungling but other than that hes nice, watch Stonewall's videos for both to learn skill orders and such