Talk:Kassadin/@comment-25912163-20150223215656/@comment-25912163-20150224164933

id like to correct some misinformations:P first of all if fizz initiated with e (and i dont know how else he could initiate) his vulnerable time was about 1 second which is pretty low especially in the mid game. katarina is not an ulti dependant champion contrary to popular belief. she is so strong because her qew combo deals its damage instantly(somewhat similar to kassadin) and her ult was mostly used for 50% ap damage or so. the number on her ult looks big but really no one is going to let her channel that. if it werent for zhonyas, akali would lose every single matchup vs ad assasin in mid lane. also she would not have a reliable defense (shroud is countered by oracles fairly easily). and these champs were toxic because there was no real counterplay against any of them (including ahri). btw 6 item kass can oneshot squishies fairly easily. you can try to ignore facts as much as you want but you will realize that every ap assasin ever rushed zhonyas as one of their first 3 items.

also i dont see any alternatives suggested either. no one can find what is wrong with kassadins kit. yes he is very mobile but so what? he has subpar early-mid game damage so he might be mobile it is only expected. he also has fairly low range and one of his skills require him to aa. pbe changes being done to kassadin is not a nerf. they are olafing him until they can completely rework him and you cannot deny this fact. his mobility used to be toxic because he did not have mana issues but after mana cd becoming 20 secs, kass cannot mindlessly ult around anymore.

btw even you said that mentioned champs are op. now i want to ask you can you think of an ap assasin that is not mentioned in this list? i know i cant, so are you claiming that the fact that every ap assasin ever was op just luck? face it riot trying to make mage mid meta is causing problems in itemizations and assasins are paying for the mistakes of riot