Talk:Ryze/@comment-5.83.71.124-20130205135534/@comment-973379-20130208014642

If any - muramana first - since AA staff is usefull even without seraph active(give good stats), while manamune is useless, until transformed - also murama toggle help charge AA(staff) from.. AA(auto attacks). Also if you take banshee - take muramana, if abissal - serahp. With BV/MM you are more single target burst oriented, while abissal+seraph = better AOE