Talk:Garen/@comment-5877442-20140610212303/@comment-5877442-20140621140721

How can a Riven nullify all of spin2win's damage at lv1 and then come out ahead with just autos?

Garen actually deals similar damage to Riven (early game, without items and just without cc) and is a lot tankier than her at all stages. Also, you're forgetting that silence which shuts her down hard.

He's not weak just beacuse there's nothing he can do which you don't expect; by that logic, Jax, Kayle, Renek etc are all weak. In addition, it's not like Riven can do that much aside from standard combos. Finally, even if it's predictable damage, it's still very potent.