Talk:Gnar/@comment-7460908-20140908180827/@comment-6281696-20140912082904

To be honest, Riven and Irelia are the type of Chracters I have less trouble with too as they the lack the range and/or burst to really trade well with gnar E.g. Riven'd need a good part of her combo to just catch up, whereas Irela's can catch up easier but needs to all in because she doesn't have a way to back out again (at which point she can be kited for a bit). Though the issue that they can kill him stupendously quickly remains.

Maokai I find a bit surprising though, straight up fights Moakai loses against mini (that W), and against Mega moakai'd first need a good chunk of defense at which point he'd then start to fight favorably with his own health-based attack. But maokai can respond quite well to the harras with his own assuming he doesn't end up OOM too quickly. Depends a bit on luck with his saplings running into minions I suppose, if a good chunk of those end up missing then moakai'd quickly be in trouble. And if Gnar can last long enough to get enough MR going to require Maokai to go OOM before he'd kill him if he'd rely on harras well yea, then Gnar wins quite easily.

Also, catching 90% of the boomerangs I still find to be too low to warrant such a depency on that for a halfdecent CD. Especially due to how much it forces your movement, allowing for easy hits.

Anyway, the frustration stems from the fact that every lane that I lost with him feeling like I lost because the lane was simply massivly unfavorable in some way, which include a number of opponents that Gnar should counter, while the lanes that I did win with him nearly all felt like my opponent was well, quite bad. Though late game it's a bit different as his advantages finally start to kick in, I have yet to have a fun laning phase with him.