Talk:Shyvana/@comment-5494818-20130711150424/@comment-9894095-20130718132353

@ThaHunter

I would just like to say, that long CD W of hers? That thing has a 75% uptime if you are using it correctly and in total is one of the strongest moves in the game for damage caused by a single spell. IE: at max rank, it deals just under 600 flat damage +140% AD. If you have even just 10% CDR, that turns into about an 80% uptime.

Regardless, most of her damage Vs. objectives comes from her E's on hit proc. This was only magnified in the extreme in the recent patch. Dragon has a base health of 3500. 2% of that would be 70 damage per hit, and that damage only increases as it gets more health. Assuming at least a 1.0 attack speed, if you use your Q correctly, you Should hit your target either 6 or 7 times in the duration of your E's debuff resulting in at least 420-490 damage per E. In one set of cooldowns, you should do at least 1500 damage. Equals out to about 150 dps. So it would take you about 22 seconds to solo dragon as it spawns. Dragon deals around 60-110 dps varying on armor. Shy is one of the more naturally tanky jungles, so lets assume he would do about 80 dps to you.

With no sustain, you would need around 1780 health to solo dragon before he kills you. With sustain however... Assuming an average 15% lifesteal and around 130 AD at this point in the game with a 1.0 attack speed you heal around 20 health per hit, equaling 200 health per 10. 440 healing leaves you only needing around 1340 health so solo dragon. Obviously these are only estimates and the numbers vary in extremes depending on items and I am ignoring both Wriggle's/ SotEL effects and Smite damage which would drastically affect your dps on it. My point though, is that mathmatically she can quite easily solo dragon if she is not drastically behind.

I do however encourage you to try her top lane! She can be a lot of fun up there! I advise rushing a Hydra if you go top as your first item as it only exagerates her already crazy strong pushing and dueling abilities.