Talk:Braum/@comment-5624107-20140424205751/@comment-24861755-20140425050342

Problem with Graves' kit is how his Q is a main source of damage yet to do optimal damage with it you need to stand close, on top of the his auto attacks have a very short range for a marksman.

As for Quinn I consider her kit pretty good, the ult turns her into an assasin in a sense, this might be because I have some experience with her and use the ult for chasing people after teamfights or ganking. But I think this was Riot's aim to otherwise they would've given her resistances or some way to survive when in bird mode.