Talk:Ability power/@comment-129.161.196.126-20120405075308/@comment-69.133.100.180-20120411014205

These are not the numbers I got.

For one, I found Karma's AP to be 2211.76575 at max (which is higher than your Morde), both calculating it exactly as it was put in the article and on my own.

Next, I got the max AP for a manaless champ (such as Morde; also, not taking into account passives or abilities since the champion is unknown) to be 1756.296. This is from all the relevant masteries (112.8), scaling AP runes (83.16), relevant ally auras/buffs (145), an Elixir (40), Baron's buff (40), 5 Rabadon's Deathcaps (700), and a Mejai's Soulstealer (180), then applying Radadon's & Archmage's collective 35% boost (455.336).

Now, regarding Morde. With those items/buffs/&c., he has 1756.296 AP. I'm not certain how Morde's ult works; does he gain 20% of the AP the champ had upon death, including allied buffs and aura's and such? Or does he get the AP the have in death, just from their own items & masteries? I'll calculate both. Since Karma can't have Baron's buff if Morde has it, her AP will be lowered to 2157.76575. However, if she loses the benefit of her allies' auras, her summoner's spells, and her Elixir, it drops to 1785.43575. There are other possibilities, but these are a possible range (with the max included, at least).

Now, Morde (with his 1756.296 AP) will get 20% of Karma's AP, bringing him to a grand total of 2113.38315~2187.84915. The max does surpass Karma's AP without Baron's buff, but it falls short of her max. So yeah, everybody's wrong.