Talk:Nocturne/@comment-3475072-20110315133024/@comment-199.72.20.10-20110315174709

Riot said Nocturne ult > TF ult. In other words, TF does not counter Nocturne, but Nocturne does counter TF.

I'm interested in seeing if Nocturne counters Shen's ult. It would mean disabling portrait clicks and function keys (as if your team were dead).

I think this will be great for both cases, since I'm really tired of seeing Shen or TF push at will and then just ult into a fight.