Talk:Graves/@comment-4207370-20120810232342/@comment-5196742-20120813212947

@Duranir/Hyundie: It's not an issue of if he's OP or not. Speaking statistically, he isn't. His win rating is 50% throughout pretty much all Elo levels and normals, but what is staggering is his rate of play compared to all other AD carries in the game. Graves is simply too good and too safe. Even if you do poorly with him, you have powerful burst, utility, and escape/steroid, along with innate tankiness. His laning phase is strong, his mid-game is strong, and he's an AD carry so his late-game will always be powerful with the right items.

Basically, there is never any reason to take ANY AD carry other than Graves in almost all situations, and that's too good.