Talk:Graves/@comment-5077844-20150129203117/@comment-1330314-20150130093146

I still feel he needs a few changes, particularly since reworks are meant to address gameplay/thematic issues and not success in the meta. Right now, Graves is sort of where Lucian was before his rebalance: a jack-of-all trades with a bit of everything (including tankiness, which nobody other marksman has, unless you count Urgot). He still has pretty bad mana issues, though nowadays that's a lot more common due to the early mana regen nerfs on mages, and his kit isn't as tight as it could be. He has slightly less range than most other marksmen, but he doesn't really need to get into his enemy's face in order to deal the most damage, which is what I think he's meant to do. In fact, he can poke with his Q pretty well and use his E exclusively for running away, and his passive just makes him harder to damage when he's farming in lane, instead of giving him resilience for putting himself at genuine risk. He has a lot of cool features that are unique to him (huge burst on a marksman, kit-based tankiness, higher rewards for putting himself at risk), and I think those need to be played up a bit more at the cost of his overall safety, especially his safety in lane.