Talk:Garen/@comment-4929329-20120816023830/@comment-4929329-20120816064223

Just what did he trade for it? if you haven't noticed, his early game is tankier, and Q, his harass tool, had its damage BUFFED.

Garen isn't butchered, you just choose to look at him like he has been butchered.

As for the Urgot parallel, I don't see how a ranged bruiser assassin who likes to counterpick bot lane and is dependent on owning the enemy carry is anything like Garen, who had a decent late game to begin with. They just completed his late game, and it's monstruous now.