Talk:Twisted Fate/@comment-35229418-20150315185705/@comment-24586863-20150316154841

I actually just realized something else, which, combined with the reasoning from you, might make Luden's a very early pick on TF (even though I still often prefer a Chalice first when going against poke heavy AP champs):

"Moving by any means [...] This includes walking, using dash or blink abilities like  Tristana's    Rocket Jump  or   Flash, or casting   Recall  or being pulled or knocked back."

This means that when you ULT, you will nearly always instantly gain a full stack, which will proc on your Gold Card which you use on arrival.

My normal build (not considering rushing Zhonya vs Zed) is

Boots > Chalice > Lich > Athena > Distortion Sorc Boots > Rabadon > Zhonya > Void

Now I already replace Void with Luden when the enemy has nearly no MR, but I might now even shift it to

Boots > Chalice > Luden > Lich > Distortion Sorc Boots > Athena > Rabadon > Zhonya

Proccing a fully charged E Gold Card will hurt like hell...