Talk:Heimerdinger/@comment-85.178.186.172-20120708222134/@comment-5052127-20120709160856

actually it would suck in a lot of ways, not sure if the passive change is an improvement on his current one... I tend to think it would actually make him have LESS sustain than he does now, that regeneration is pretty strong. The 3 turrets on the other hand WOULD make him impossible to touch, and he would be back to being able to hold off entire teams at a turret by himself and making any teamfights there totally unfair.

No grenades or rockets means you remove all his utility, no stun and no blind and no aimable damage at all... I don't think it's possible to make him more useless in team fights even with shorter turret placement cd... a slow on a long cooldown as his ONLY cc would really suck.