Talk:Gragas/@comment-94.180.220.143-20120823193059

i dont think he is any way op, but.

any real tips how to beat him in mid?

i stayed with him. i bought bot+3pots for start. i evaded every single barrel for 4 levels and harrased him to half hp (i was 100% he was 50%). then i gone for him, put ignite on him, left him about 5% hp and died because barrel+ignite+dash+2AA. how the hell i supposed to kill him if it doesnt work just to overharras him. i supposed to evade barrels forever and not to go towards him? when he killed me he had 1 lvl advantage and this means i lost lane. im NOT pro, im even worse than average player, BUT i know how to evade his skills, i know the main basics and some tricks, but still dont know how to kill him w/o jungler help (he usually got flash and it turns into 2 blinks with his E).