Talk:Zed/@comment-26442038-20150528111632/@comment-6281696-20150529154438

No it's not hard to do those things, and with more details like that the advice is a bit more usefull, but most of these are things you should be doing for the most part anyway. Which makes it rather pointless as advice against zed/fizz/Riven/etc.

None of the advice you gave are specicly aimed to counter the popular assasins, with the exception maybe of taking barrier/exhaust over ignite (which given the CD really should not win you the game unless you're already close matched) or leveling a defenses mechanic first like oriana's shield. The other things you mentioned are just things you should be doing in general.

And anyway, a lot of those things don't really work regardless. The defense chalice provides pales in comparison to the damage fizz has, "don't overextend" gets kind of impossible against a guy like fizz who can towerdive without much effort, and the ever popular "don't get caught" or "dodge all attacks" are just too silly to even point out what's wrong with it. Which is why these characters tend to feel so frustrating, if they play well, or just get a lucky kill, they will stomp you pretty much regardless of what you do, if they play badly, or you get a lucky, the roles are completly reversed. Either case your own input feels fairly irrelevant.