Talk:Shyvana/@comment-1236017-20140902023814/@comment-15244341-20140913230058

I'm just Plat II, but I can tell you Shyvanna Jungle is sort of mediocre. Not trash tier, since her clear speed is pretty high, but definitely B tier at best. The issue is that Shyvanna has zero pressure on your lanes pre six:

Against the most picked champions (Lee, Kha, Elise, Mao) she has no kill potential at all in a 1v1. Since her mobility is also not impressive before six, invades are really risky (unlike with Elise or Lee which can escape or evade wards easily). On top of that, she provides nothing but unreliable melee range damage to a gank, but she has no actual gapclosers and her movespeed boost from W falls off really hard pretty fast. As a result, her ganks are really bad if you don't have Dragon's Descent ready.

That said, I'd rather play her over most of the farm junglers (Hecarim, Tryndamere, Yi, Udyr...) since I feel her late game is pretty damn strong and her clearing speed is pretty insane too. She also has great synergy with Feral Flare (more composite magic damage, attack speed, AD...). And umm... she can be your team's frontline, which out of these only Hecarim can do too. And Hecarims build is really really really expensive as opposed to the FF+Tank Shyv can do.

However, I prefer her top. Jungle her, but you have to expect your team to hold long enough for you to get going to have good games, so she's not the best pick for solo queue jungling (which is all about the early/mid game pressure). If you duo with a solo laner, then you migh have more success (you can count on a lane not feedin or even winning so that you jungle is safer early game).