Talk:Talon/@comment-124.168.54.61-20110919100112

Ok let me break it down, there have been too many, and I mean WAY too many comments QQ'ing about how Talon's passive is "Corki's passive but less of exactly the same". There are 2 reasons why Corki and Talon are of the same usefulness despite having one "good" and one "bad" passive, respectively. First: They aren't the same champions. They have different stats, different skills, and most importantly different passives. While it is true that Talon's passive isn't the same as Corki's passive, none of their skills are the same. I could argue that Corki's Q is a worse version of Talon's Q, because they both deal damage and reveal, but Talon's is physical (which they both itemise for) and keeps track of the target even as they move. Second: Extra damage =/= on-hit effect. Corki deals 10% of the total damage he dealt with his attack as true damage to the target as an on-hit effect. Talon's basic attacks deal 10% additional damage of the target is CC'd. While these sound like the same thing, they act differently in certain situations: 1- Talon's passive benefits form life steal, Corki's benefits from neither life steal or spell vamp. 2- Talon's passive increases the damage from Noxian Diplomacy, because it increases damage for next basic attack, Corki has no spell of this nature, so cannot make use of his passive in this way. 3- Taimats will benefit from Talon's passive, because again, it increases the damage of the actual attack, Corki's is an on-hit effect so it does not. TL;DR: Corki and Talon are different champs and should be compared via their whole skill set, stats, and scaling on abilities, not every spell individually.