Talk:Vel'Koz/@comment-7785527-20140225210811/@comment-5651085-20140228134401

The thing is, most of Vel'Koz's burst comes from landing his W twice (which you can do with quick reflexes in about .75 seconds [E->W->Q->W->Ult]). So I think you can count Vel's W twice in his burst.

And as for the comparison to Karthus and Cass, those aren't burst champions. They're DoT. Most of their damaging abilities are either on very low cooldowns (Karthus' Q, Cass' Q and E), or deal damage continuously, (Karthus' W, Cass' Q and W). Their ults are the only part of their kits that give them some form of burst, and both of those have long cooldowns (Compared to true burst champions like Ahri, LeBlanc, and Fizz) and large amounts of utility (Karthus hits everyone regardless of distance, and Cass' is either an AoE stun or major slow).