Talk:The Black Cleaver/@comment-4659726-20121212195745

Taking the nerf bat to this item hard? Sure, go for it. This item singlehandedly is able to push out AP mid's from being playable because of AD assassins/mids that can do the mid job but better because of cleaver and scalings.

Not to mention the Aura of bulwark and other mr items are very effective at mitigating any damage they might take that is magic damage.

So far I much prefer S2's setup minus the Jungler's disproportionate effect on the game and gold starvation of support. S3 almost has it right, but mostly because of the changes for supports.

Make the passive unique and only up to 25% reduction since it is a team wide benefit item/pair with LW, make the cdr and armor pen unique. From there adjust characters who are stupid strong with it.