Talk:Veigar/@comment-5557556-20141211133014/@comment-25953891-20150102103600

You guys are making it sound like maxing skills in a certain order is the only way to level up. I rank up depending on whether the guy in lane is pushing hard or if he's the kind of guy who will deny Q farm. So against a Yasuo or Orianna I start with W, otherwise start with Q. If I go W first then I rank up W Q E W Q R E W Q ... etc or if I go Q first Q W E Q W R E Q W, depends if I am farming hard with Q or if they're pushing me hard and roaming, I go W. The thing is that leaving W at rank 1 and maxing E is not needed. Rank 2 E at level 7 makes W very reliable. I get rank 3 E before level 11, that makes W pretty much 100% hit. Then I get rank 4 E later which makes W very certain vs tenacity opponents. Rank 5 E is unneeded to hit combo, I leave it for the last point. Not ranking up W will hurt your damage a lot. 50 base damage per rank is nothing to scoff at, even with 100% scaling that is 50 AP.

tl;dr rank 1 E is crap, but so is maxing it second.