Talk:Kha'Zix/@comment-24090792-20140404114628/@comment-24090792-20140405075010

marksmen are weak ?! ... than why when anyone picks something other than a marksman along with the support botlane is called a troll, get reported by all including his enemies and ultimately, his team loses the game when putiing skill gaps aside and the lose is inevitable ESPECIALLY when the enemy team have an assassin mid instead of a weak mage OR have 2 MARKSMEN than you will have your match recorded, streamed on youtube under the title "TOTAL idiot who didnt pick a marksman because he said they are WEAK". thtas being said, team comps with no mages as carries or snowballers have more chances to win, while team comps with no assassins or ESPECIALLY with no marksmen as carries or snowballers have WAY LESS more chances to win. and i am not theorycrafting by saying this as i HAVE SEEN IT many times as a marksman toplane ( jinx, twitch, vayne, quinn, graves, cait and jayce since most people build him ADC and it works cuz he is beefy and riot didnt take out his free armor and magic resist from hammer stance yet ) can and will cripple your usual toplaner ( yes even the mighty SUSAN ) and force the jungler to either babysit top thus giving free reign to the enemy mid and botlane while not yielding good results because marksmen have good mobility + utility spells or ignore top lane thus losing the tank or the initiator and giving the second enemy carry free reign top while ALL assassins can cripple your usual mage midlane ( talon, fizz and leblanc shine more than others though ) as well as some marksmen like sivir, cait and ezreal against mages who rely on certain spell to land the others ( veigar stun and swain root being negated by sivir e ) or mages with short ranges as cait and ezreal will turn the lane into a safe farm fest and outscale you anyway. also may assassins and marksmen can work as junglers and have great effect late game too unlike jungler mages ( jungler lissandra is a forgotten memory and elise - though not a pure mage hereself - mid and late game presence is just funny especially after the damage and tanky nerfs NOT the utility ones and utility buffs late game is worthless for her kind )

conclusion : marksmen are in as a good spot as assassin are compared to mages since crits work to full effect against squishies and there is nothing that can block aa and crits or negate them like spell sheilds or QSS can do to spells beside that marksmen already have a good mix of burst + utility + mobility in the first place too.