Talk:Fiora/@comment-167.93.253.222-20120223172949/@comment-4835368-20120223211732

master yi, trynda and gp WERE true melee carrys. that's how they were played when they were released (and quite a while thereafter) and it WAS very viable - melee carry, full glasscannon, maybe one def item. but the meta has changed *drastically* since then. two small examples: everyone and their mom has a dash (which used to be a rare ability) and there are like 40 bruisers/offtanks/tanky DPS/fighters in the game.

they were also reworked because the melee carry role simply doesn't exist anymore in this meta. trynda is the only one who survived the meta changes, he's still glasscannon. gp was changed to work very well with atmogs, he's considered tanky DPS nowadays. yi didn't have a "real" rework, his kit still screams "melee carry" but he's pretty fine (even in high elo) as tanky DPS with emphasis on damage.

IMO today "melee carrys" are melee champs that deal most of their dmg with auto-attacks, have strong steroids, little survivabilty and are able to build 1 or 2 "big" damage items (in a serious game) when they are having a good early/mid game. yi, gangplank, nocturne (!), jax, xin come to my mind.