Talk:Udyr/@comment-203.219.88.191-20110719103511/@comment-3486816-20110723101824

Do you have attack speed Reds? Phoenix requires a different runeset to really shine. Also, trinity force and ghostblade both have attack speed, and they both work well on him. My argument was that Tiger is generally a lot better for damage; I didn't think about whether to level it up or not; I was mostly considering the scaling between the two (even with Phoenix's AoE considered it's not great damage per gold to buy AP even with 2.5 AS).