Talk:Fiora/@comment-24479677-20140128233404/@comment-9705522-20140130193645

First off, use tl;drs or structure your text. both would be best. anyway, back on topic. first off, what you say is wrong. her early game is weak. in fact, there are few champions that CANT go toe to toe with her in levels 1-5. jax can with ease. jayce can with ease. riven crushes you. mundo just cleavers you. shyvana murders your sorry ass. renekton murders you. darius murders you. cho just doesnt care. rumble burns you to death. and really, i dont know if there is anyone else who is played top right now, actually. this is because parry blocks one autoattack ... and? reminder. pantheons passive does that every few seconds, jaxs dodge does that for 2! seconds AND gives a stun, riven has a shield that is infinitly better and so on. attack speed is meaningless without ad. early on, attack speed steroids are weak. hence why noone levels tristanas q until level 8. like, it gives you 60% as. early on that means your as goes from 0.678 to 1.13 something something something. meaning you get 4 attacks instead of 3 attacks in that time. meaning, an attack reset without any damage boost. 2 gapclosers are neat, but the thing is, you wont be using them, because you will run. because, again, everyone beats you. and the damage is ignorable. riven has everything fiora has, except better. free damage, passive. 4 gapclosers instead of 2. shield instead of parry. [Blocks of text that i dont care about]. her ult, as flashy as it is, is sadly far from being one of the best skills in the game. here is the thing. its damage without anything else. and in terms of damage, its not even impressive. whole ult does like 2500+7.0 per bonus ad. compare that to talon, who does 2200 + 7.5 per bonus ad. and thats only his ult, while he also has a lot more besides that. and its a lot quicker. sure, if your enemies are clumped up its strong with hydra and all, but guess what else is strong with clumped up enemy teams? ANY AOE ULT EVER. for example, yasuo. whose ult does 2000 +7.5, is instant, ccs and gives 50% armor pen. the thing with fiora is, all she brings is damage, and she isnt good at that either. her laning is horrible, her midgame is good, her lategame is mediocre. she has too many counters in lane, rarely wins lane, and just is plain subpar to some champions like, say, riven.