Talk:Swain/@comment-24055932-20150129050135/@comment-9048637-20150210160725

"it was common to go DFG with Swain if it's burst warfare"

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"Even Ahri, pretty much the easiest matchup for Swain is now almost an even match."

How was Ahri ever meant to be Swain's easiest match-up? For a start, she's mobile, which Swain doesn't like. She has innate sustain, which partially nullifies one of Swain's principal post-6 advantages. And she's bursty. As a sustain mage with no burst of his own, that's not something Swain likes in great quantities. Indeed, if anything, Ahri should be easier to deal with now that they've made her less bursty.

Overall, I think you're making a mountain out of a molehill. Yeah, as an immobile mage, Swain's not exactly favoured by the current meta (though as a bruisy mage, he's not hurt by it as much as immobile glass mages); yeah, Athene's nerfs hurt him, both because he liked Athene's (and as a bruisy mage, the MR nerf was actually a big deal for him), and because it led to a massive popularity spike for Morellonomicon, which can be a bit of a spanner in the works for him (though of course, they do have to get you below 40% health first). But I don't think it's as bad as you're saying. Swain's still strong in the right hands, at least in solo queue. Competitive might be a different matter, but hey, who cares, right? Champions who get the spotlight in competitive play get a load of metasheep playing them, which leads to more people knowing how to play against them... and often also to nerfs. I'm perfectly happy with most of my champions being below the radar right now.

And seriously, DFG on Swain? Who actually did that, besides Phreak? It was very, very situational at best. Swain's normal response to burst is to get tankier, not burstier.