Talk:Vi/@comment-9705522-20130722153631/@comment-9705522-20130801212234

against olaf? well, stay away. he has no gapcloser whatsoever, and his cc is rather easy to sidestep. but the thing is, bad counterexample. olaf is a bad design as well. and the difference is, with yi there are easy ways to deal with him, and he wasnt that antifun. against vi, well, there are very very few ways, most of which are situational, and she is antifun as hell. also, the timeframe where your team has to react is very short, and they are forced to take a certain position, which the enemy team can abuse. and what is my problem with her? simple. first, whenever she is in the jungle, she for whatever reason will always gank me first and only gank me. so i get ganked by her a lot. and here is the thing. in lane you cant deal with her ult at all. its like maokais w. only better. and she has another gapcloser. also, the fact that once she is ahead, you cant do anything anymore, due to lack of counter. her design isnt just bad, its horrible. only lee sin is even worse. and amumus ult has very easy counterstrategies. because its short range. that means he has to q someone, and then you have to be too close to get hit by him. its similiar to oriannas ult.