Talk:Ryze/@comment-26837195-20150831113055/@comment-26837195-20150902122114

The only problem is that there are two mana scaling items in the game (4 for the nitpicky types) and it's not easy to itemize past RoA and tear upgrades. 250 mana is around 25 AP but lich bane gives 80 AP and 250 mana (though no one should buy Lich Bane on Ryze anyway)

Luden's Echo, Lich Bane, and other items scale with AP and there are plenty of utility AP items compared to mana, which is mostly damage compared to AP.

Also, the best for Ryze AP items give mana too most of the time. I'd say there's only a variation in 2-3 items between AP and mana builds.