Talk:Lee Sin/@comment-5889036-20141008112419/@comment-10590654-20141016123941

First of all, season ending soon, we don't have a meta for season 5 yet so no more nerfs will happen to any champ soon unless it's something retarded in solo queue and lcs as well.

Then I mean cmon we already know other junglers do what he does better later in the game after the early game damage thing falls off.

Also the LCS is op thing don't work because of the specific thing of jungling with the top laner (shields top laner and has sustain much?) as well as early game presence.

You could also argue that top laners and junglers "stay in the early game for longer" since they have reduced income, junglers needing cash won't work well and also those who are strong with little items will just wreck people, that's probably why nocturne or vi are seen less, it's because by the time they have lizard lee has already killed 2 people or kha has 3 assists.

In solo queue it's kills galore and we have a standard farming thing that works which allows wukong warwick or Vi to exist and to actually do better because of higher impact later on.

Bottom line is he doesn't need nerfs (yet, we will see next season), he is just frustrating to play vs early like a blitz or thresh hook in a level 2 botlane levels of frustrating, and he's so overrated in soloqueue (like thresh) it's not funny anymore. Luckily late game when mummy is immortal and does prctge hp dmg to kick his dragon ball z ass the satisfaction is so high x).

ps: yes i'm bored and wall of text forums, sue me.