Talk:Gragas/@comment-58.186.41.187-20111225054622/@comment-77.97.134.113-20120108135803

Gragas taken damage like any other Ap carry. And if you play him as tanky-ap then you do it wrong in the first place. The meta has changed since he was played as a tank. Now he is just as squishy as other AP carries. In my opinion this place is much better for him as he has a long range nuke, which deals 'tons of damage'. When built tanky he does NOT deal enough damage to justify picking him at all. Ryze can do it because he has very short cooldowns so relatively low damage is not a problem. Besides - gragas has huge AP ratio on his Q.