Talk:Riven/@comment-173.181.37.119-20120803023107/@comment-4834593-20120805165709

"I find it funny how every time someone posts a comment like this guy here saying that a champion beats Riven, Riven fanatics prove the fact wrong, but when someone comes up with an idea that Riven is too strong, the fanatics deny it."

She can only be countered in one way: By, at the same time, building armor, damage, and sustain. Sustain means just life steal/spell vamp if you have no costs, otherwise also mana regen. Ninja Tabi + Wriggles Lantern counters Riven, IF you have a manaless champion. Mostly with someone like Renekton, I'd say. Though that works the other way around too. You also counter Renekton with those items if you play Riven. Pure skill then.

To the one who says it's impossible with those other champions:

Garen: Nah, sorry, he doesn't counter Riven. EW Q out from Riven is some nice harras if repeated time after time, while he can't do anything about it. If he spins, she just dashes away. I'd even want to say that Riven is, because of that, a strong pick against Garen, because something like 80% of his damage is from his spin.

Renekton: As I said, if they both know what the right items against the enemy champion are, pure skill.

Shen: Riven can shield his Vorpal Blade damage, and maybe even use the E offensive to W after that, then Q out to avoid taunt. Someone even said I could best take Riven when they picked Shen, and I indeed won my lane.

Kennen: Is there anyone who can win vs Kennen? He's energy based and has a long ranged poke. But he won't be able to kill Riven, because he needs to get close to really deal damage, which means that Riven is close too. And Riven close to you is something that you just don't want by any means.

Olaf: Of course he wins if he can scare you with that true damage. If you use your shield, you'll shield something like half his damage, which means he deals himself almost as much damage as you. With your W, you can also deal some damage, then just get out and avoid his Q. And, he has mana. At some point he only has his E. Only thing is that you'll need Life Steal to sustain yourself against Olaf.

A good Riven > everyone with mana and people who don't build enough armor. Only with the right armor items you can outlane her if she knows what she's doing.