Talk:Vel'Koz/@comment-24035110-20140228164202/@comment-8506165-20140302030032

"Also, I've never seen an AP caster's ultimate with such average AP scaling. I mean there are some basic abilities who can trump that AP scaling"

herp derp, everything's about the AP isn't it?

Let's play "Unevent explains base damages for the millionth time" with illustrative examples:

Incredibly high utility ultimate in but usually played with a gimped 500+ AP build with the ult just used as a nuke with little to no regard for the utility because it had a 100% AP ratio (as far as I know, this continues with it reduced to 90%, but let's play with the pre-patch value of 100% for the sake of the argument~)

The way underpowered contender with a pitiful 60% AP on his ult. Ha! The weak fool, he can never contend!

300AP:

Gragas: 750 damage.

Vel'Koz: 1285 damage (assuming 1 passive proc).

Ah, but I'm clearly being a charlatan and misleading people with such a low AP value, right? Obviously Vel'Koz is going to be better here, but at higher AP values-

700AP:

Gragas: 1150 damage

-wait, wait, wait, something's wrong here. Vel'Koz doesn't even need to build 700AP to outdo Gragas' ult on damage! How can this be? His ult has terrible scalings! It's almost as if high base damage were its own selling point, particularly seeing as you can just build early magic pen instead of having to save up for a NLR!