Talk:Renekton/@comment-95.76.166.47-20121119101906/@comment-5009341-20121121232842

''Good thing Irelia can't 1v5 with a GA. People, stop it with the Nerf Irelia jokes and start learning how to beat her. ''

apperantly she DOES

u have only a chance if u counter her in lane, which quite hard with her kit, aside from jax i havent seen any other champ being worth considered as counter (malph is meh and banned anyways)

the reason why people dont like to play irelia is cause they would eventually feed the enemy top early on (not like she herself has a problem with that, but her team, since the enemy top might actually be a teamfighter, rather then an assassin, and will cause havoc in teamfights, and since LoL is a teamgame (atleast it is inteded to be so) irelias allies will lose TFs (eventually) and fall behind, while the enemy team snowballs, which may lead to a defeat), irelia by herself can die like 100 times, then she gets her items and it is over for u, a fed irelia with full itembuild seems to me, like a nashor in the enemy team, which takes 4-10 sec to kill and deals WAY more damage then nashor

if ur top now somehow manages to feed irelia early on, the situations becomes ridiculously retarded, she easily dashes into the middle of ur team 1v5, kills ur carry (carries), BUT IS STILL ALIVE, 2-5 sec later her teamappears and they ace u, THEN it usually is over

but im curious, why do u suddenly debate irelias state of balance on renes page?