Talk:Udyr/@comment-117.204.140.21-20110119054221/@comment-3353268-20110120103401

to the contributor of the upper comment: i think u got something wrong: 1st: i recommendet it as a fun build, and during midgame it is a very good build - its just bad in lategame. 2nd: No, wriggles lanterns are not "half wasted" when stacked. it may be true that u won´t get the passives anymore, but they are just nice additions. That which makes wriggles lantern really great is its cost and the stats combination it provides. U can calculate it easily: 23 attack dmg = about a pike axe, 30 armor = about 2 cloth armor, 14% lifesteal =about a vampiric scepter. combining the gold of these items it would be 2025 gold. but wriggle just costs a bit more than 1,5 k. which means u "won" about 500 gold by byuing it. So much about a single wriggles. This alone should be prove enough thatwriggles is a good buy despite losing the passives. But thats not all: like i said in my long comment: defenses+attack dmg+ lifesteal is a stat combo. Easy example again: u got 1 wriggles and buy a second one. before the 2nd ur stats wer +23 AD,+ 30 Armor, +14% LS. now u can multiply the statsjust by two. But the combination gets MORE than twice as effective! Reason: originally ur 14% Lifesteal only converted the damage the damage of 1 lantern (+ ur own AD, but that aside for now) to life, which was protected by 30 armor. But now these 14% can convert the damage of additionally 23 AD to life, which is proteted by additional armor. and the same counts for the 14% new life gain: not only the 2nd lanterns stats count, but the 1st ones too. This makes stacking wriggles useful. Basically u can compare this to the Archangels staff stacking, but instead of a percentual connection to ur mana, its a percentual connection to ur damage and defenses. i hope u understand my point now. theonly weakness of this build is the lategame (= around 35th minute)