Thread:Dojo88/@comment-25050130-20150503000119/@comment-24268958-20150504012244

See I personally never thought that Yordle's were ever in Freljord. Sure Gnar had an encounter with a being that looked like a Watcher but nothing indicates said encounter was actually in Freljord. What I've come to theorise in my head is that Yordles originally evolved from large jungle beasts that resemble Mega Gnar on the south side of Valoran.

- Back when Shurima was in the height of its power and Nasus and Renekton were humans, Freljord's armies were colonizing northern Valoran. When they eventually reached Shurima they were met by the two brothers who, having beseeched their gods for a blessing, had been transformed by the Sun Disc in to Ascended beings. The battle was bloody and brutal with beings of god like power on both sides.

- Off a ways away but still close to the conflict is a jungle that the Kumungu of today originates from, but is likely much bigger. Here the Watcher's throw their Iceborn at the wilderness and its denizens and hope to claim it, but find resistance in the primitive yordles. A watcher enters the affair to show its dominance or something to this effect, prompting Gnar's transformation. In the ensuring battle Gnar kills or greviously injures the watcher and single handedly forces Freljord's armies to flee.

- With the Shurimans having the Ascended on the front lines and a monster coming from the jungles that can topple anyone or anything that gets in its way, the Watchers call for a retreat, which then leads in to a civil war in Freljord after some time has passed. I'd like to imagine that it was Avarosa, having been involved in these conflicts and seeing beings that could rival the Watcher's in ways that really showed them up; a little creature in Gnar that just naturally, with nothing but brute strength can defeat them and the Ascended, humans who were gifted powers by their Gods that rival the Watcher's themselves. With insight like that and also being witness to whatever atrocities the Watchers were willing to perpetrate her perspective may have changed about things.

On the topic of dragons and the Watcher's origins, I'd say dragons are simply highly evolved reptilian creature with immense power and great magical potential, leading some like Ao Shin to access powers noone else really can. I kinda don't want put the Watcher's as being void related, mainly because I don't want the void to be related to EVERYTHING. I'd assume they simply came from way further north than humans, ursine, trolls and yeti had ever been before, keeping in mind the Freljord map shows ice stretching even further north than the northern most shores of Valoran.