Talk:Riven/@comment-8733289-20131108173707/@comment-4538269-20131112215354

But considering how Riven's Q is made up of 3 casts and the spell goes on CD as soon as the first Q has been cast.....meaning she still has 2 Qs to zone you with...

She can hold her first Q for 4 seconds, second Q for another 4 seconds...she basically can have her Q to be active for ~8 seconds but Q's overall cd is 13s so there really is only ~5 seconds where her Q is not up...

So against Jax, she can start going in on him when there is still 2-3 seconds until her Q will be up with her other spells so it's not just a matter of playing safely for 5 seconds between her Qs cd and Jax's CS cd.

And at the end of the day...Riven just needs to manage cds...she's got no resources but Jax on the other hand...