Talk:Ryze/@comment-4900160-20150110015841/@comment-4900160-20150111140746

Soraka used to have an ability scaling with mana. It was not damage related though. This is an example of what I'd like to see more often.

Let's be honest for a minute : Apart from ToG which is a niche item used on a few champions that can stack it quiclky, most of the time, people go for mana regen items over flat mana. I'm actually very happy they nerfed Athene's, which was essentially a "make your champion manaless" item. There was no point in building flat mana when Athene's was at its peak power (well, you could argue that froggen liked to build a ToG along Athene's anyway, but I never saw anybody else do it). Why so much popularity ? Because having unlimited fuel and CDR is an overpowered mechanic.

There is a reason why in every other MobA, every charachter (or Hero, Champion, God... you name it) uses mana.

I know I get a little bit confused in my arguments, but what I'm tring to say is that there should be either more of a downside in not using mana, or, like in the case of Ryze, more of an advantage in building this ressource.