Talk:Graves/@comment-87.97.211.193-20120906181313/@comment-188.140.45.12-20120910194717

Well, a end game/six items graves can and will beat Vayne. His utility, tankiness and massive steroid makes him able to duel Vayne with a 50/50 chance, and his teamfight contribution is similar.

To awnser, Graves is not the easiest character to play. The current meta simply prefers "debuff carries" (carriew who can interfere with the enemy by diminishing their power - Graves' smokescreen blind, Ezreal's attspeed debuff, Corki's armor reduction) and mobility carries. What happens is that Corki/Ezreal/Graves are the carries who excel at both and can actually fend for themselves early game. Graves is NOT easy to play. Easy to learn, yes. Easy to win and master? No.

Graves seems powerful because the meta favours his type of carrying. If the AoE meta comes back, you'll see how Ashe and MF, without any buffs, will be considered top picks, and MF will be declared "the easiest AD to play. The reason why a champ seems easy to play is because many people play them, so those people play him a lot, so they get better, so they make the champion seem easy. During the AoE meta, Malzahar was considered the easiest mage to play. If you said this today, your face would be laughed right out of your ass. It's a question of request, not power.