Talk:Graves/@comment-4539735-20130308181300/@comment-220.255.1.129-20130312050401

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By which the way your argument goes, you are putting Graves in the best possible situation every teamfight where the opposite ad or ap carry will go out of position, yes ppl say fire the buckshot and ult in the direction of the squishies, but most of the time in proper teamfights the only thing that will hit the back line is the Explosion damage, not initial damage, thats why i say his burst is getting horrible, bruisers and tanks are always at the front line, when you fire your buckshot and ult through them, the whole enemy team will only probably take the same amount of damage the bruisers take from your burst, Graves has incredible scaling with AD there is no reason not to build that, but even though those squishies you stated don't have any HP Item, the Explosion damage, assuming Buckshot should not hit them, is only around 500 without considering armor, probably they only have enough armor to shrug off 30% of the damage, so when you put in the fact that they took 350 damage from your ult and thats it, while you are having troubles shrugging Bruisers off your face, its pretty bad, and the burst Graves have is his specialty, i didn't say Graves is weak, i just said Season 3 made his burst rather weak considering it making what he is