Talk:Jayce/@comment-88.207.2.65-20120707123648/@comment-108.76.158.5-20120707175614

(Fyi, I'm not that guy above)

1. No one is immune to ganking? Get better at jungling. He has to push because if you're harassing with an AOE skill then you're hitting the minions-->pushing the lane, just like darius. And how does no mana issues shut down "no mana users"...? If anything it puts you on a more equal footing.

2. You're thinking of vayne's W, which is percent TRUE damage. Percent magic damage is still magic damage and the reduction will reduce the percent damage as well. And no one builds "pure MR," what that guy was referring to was just the fact that you're fighting someone top who dishes magic damage, and thus should approach them like you would vlad or rumble: mantle--> merc treads/hexdrinker if you're hurting a lot. Building a LITTLE bit of defenses in lane goes a long way.

3. You're using a flash argument? If Jayce flashes at me I'm just gonna flash away. Flash counters flash, buddy. Most top laners can't kite? Yorick would like to have a word with you. So would vlad. So would wukong.

So all OP champions go top, eh? So I guess release day graves and vayne should have gone there too, or maybe release day leblanc or old annie. Stop QQing and actually think about why you lost to him.

The previously mentioned yorick would be a counter. Can kite and his ghouls to block skillshots. He also has hp sustain, something jayce doesn't have.