Talk:Luden's Echo/@comment-35229418-20150315183157/@comment-26218937-20150319041716

Even if this is viable (not in my opinion) as a first buy, lich bane insanely outscales this as the game progresses as the lich bane spellblade proc add's 80% (i think) ap ratio onto every auto after a spell cast. Also, just one other point. Your calculations are right, but you aren't taking into account timing. TF can almost always proc 2-3 lich bane hits in the same amount of time as a luden's echo proc, especially with a tiny bit of cdr.