Talk:Shen/@comment-50.53.139.17-20120912032132/@comment-86.204.208.145-20120930171648

i think tf split pushes faster then shen ( if goes AD with AS from E he goes fast, and with ap and lichbane also really fast and faster pushing on waves)

but the thing about shen is that he can push TOP while the teamfight erupts near bot tower and he's got the range + the great shield allowing to mitigate the burst on a priotrity target

also while shen has ult the mid is virtually impossible to dive ( i'm talking about common 2v1 dives in laning with jungler, even 3V1 may be hard with a full health shen  appearing and taunting 3 peeps under tower)

and shen is tanky, how many times i've seen a tf TP behind a team to kill the runners and getting imploded 2v1 because he underestimated the burst  he'd get or thought they would keep running

and panth isn't instant.