Talk:Rammus/Strategy/@comment-9280387-20131205164901/@comment-9280387-20131217162109

Now I dont know about his early game with the preseason patch or what that would be like with tank runes, however with my other junglers i have a tough time as i need to use like 3 or 4 pots to clear red, wraiths and then blue. (order is different on either team) but if you take ap quints mpen reds armor yellows and mres blues, you end up with around 15-20 ap lv 1, and whatever amount of extra bit of damage from the yellows your passive gives you. probably only like 2-3 ad or so from those alone. Later on you can back and buy a few doran's rings (1-2) and then begin to farm while you wait for gank opportunies, which can help you build towards your items.