Talk:Irelia/@comment-24.77.234.168-20120423174735/@comment-24.187.23.1-20120424145436

I don't know much of Riven but for Jax:

The dodge is the most expensive after his ult. He's pretty mana hungry early game so using it often is not a good idea. And it's inconsistant, only lasting 2 seconds and having a fairly long cd. It also has to power to unintentionally push, leaving you open to ganks and having it unavailable.

A lot of people would love Irelia's free, consistant sustain. It may not have the best early game anymore but she has it better than most. Be happy for what you have.