Talk:Ardent Censer/@comment-5593561-20140607111358/@comment-5955640-20140608202819

She has a heal. And can lay down wards. Those are the exact reasons why she has is a support. The PLAYSTYLE of a Nidalee isn't that supportive which is true. You can certainly make use of heals with a great AS bonus and free wards.

Karma is also a bad example of a poke reliant support because the poke is to apply slows which is useful for the Carry in also getting a poke in. There is also the snare for when a tank or someone tries to all in on you and the shield movement speed boost which is good for soaking damage and chasing targets that you just Q'ed.

The reason why Riot supports aggressive supports is because they found the opposite to be very uninteresting and unsatisifying for people playing the support role. It's important for them to feel like play makers so they made supports that can actually make plays and they are phasing out purely utility and defensive supports or buffing the defensive powers to a high grade of mixed damage and utility.

As a support main this is pretty good and I don't find this Toxic at all. You basically have to rock paper scissors situation with grabbers, sustainers, and initators (sustainers beat poke, Poke beats grabber, Grabber beats sustain) which is a perfectly fine setup and once you get clever with the support items you can buy and the type of support you want to be and the specific champ you intend on playing you have a wealth of interesting options to use against an opponent to benefit you.

This will require a largely intuitive look at the role and how you can function in it though. If you're just setting up a kill lane by having the most powerful damage dealer be your support than you aren't going to get very far unless the enemy is much weaker than you.