Talk:Elise/@comment-24082086-20150707014754/@comment-24082086-20150708054255

Seems like she is not as strong as she used to be. Yes, the major problem I have with her is the long cooldowns, its absolutely ridiculous and what cooldown reduction items can you even buy on her when she is a jungler? Though she had a fast clear of camps, I don't think so you could carry with her. Once you get 3 kills and 0 deaths, I have realized that no matter how fed you are, you would always die and it gets fustrating and annoying. Unlike other champions e.g. Irelia or Talon etc. they just one kill and they never seem to die again. I think it is because of her scaling also. By looking at it, it even hurts. Terribly. The 3% per 100AP is just really bad... and not to mention how hard it is to aim her cocoon. You basically just can't get a perfect or good game with her. You'll always need to die with her and no item really actually benefits her except for Rylai's or Liandry's. The rest are all 'meh' and don't go quite well with her. Also, I doubt she can be a proper assassin due to her long cooldowns and shortage of burst unlike Katarina or Akali etc.

She is also very mana hungry early on if you buy cooldown reduction on her because spamming abitlities, just won't do that much as a Katarina's bouncing blades or sinister seel or Zyra's deadly bloom because the only huge damage would come from her volatile spider along with her q but it is very hard to aim and does very little damage.

I really hope riot makes a whole new turn on Elise because I didn't even know her winrate was terrible. Please riot, buff elise and update her kit. PLEASE because she is just so fun!