Talk:VPBE/@comment-24449104-20140123180147/@comment-1138914-20140124142509

There are only 2 AOEs that have an similar AP ratio.

Veigar's dark matter, that need his stun to land, and has an 1,25s drop time, and Nunu's ult.

Graga's ult drops fast, knockbacn an entire team, has an obscene range and you are pretty much dead when he reaches lvl 6.