Talk:Kayle/@comment-4019444-20110907182248/@comment-99.159.45.111-20110910212106

Flat Defense reduction happens before her passive is applied. It's still not a bad thing to have penetration/reduction along with %, but...

The main point of the passive is to reduce the need for defense penetration on items in the first place, letting you build other items, like Rageblade, Nashor's Tooth, and/or Gunblade etc.