Talk:Karma/@comment-5266525-20140610071630/@comment-25084308-20140623063844

At level 5 W Karma can ensure enemy recieve the full damage of Soulflare, which is almost as painful as Old Nidalee's javlin. Even with no AP that is 785 magical damage, and Old Nidalee is 575, and it can be painful when use correctly. If you add damage from W, at full rank it is total   1050 magical damage + 2.1 AP ratio. Pretty close to Nunu Ult. For a close range player other than CC there wasn't much you can do to avoid that.