Talk:Udyr/@comment-2179912-20130722152234/@comment-13017478-20130722171918

I'm kind in that same situation. I used to play udyr a good amount in the jungle and then i move away from that. Recently with all the SGU's I decide to try him again. I was looking at phoenix and thought "hey why not ap". So i decided to try it out. I looked it up and there was the occasional person that talked about it or made a guide.

I've tried it in 3 games now and have won them all (10/7/8, 15/7/13, 7/4/14). I even had a pentakill stolen by a jayce in one of them. I went 4/5/21 for masteries, getting atkspd, monster buffs, smite gold, buff duration, spell vamp/lifesteal, biscuit, cdr, and movespd. For runes i had atkspd reds, armor, yellows, flat ap blues and quints. This starts me with around 26 ap and 20% atkspd. I start blue and if i can get smiteless then go steal enemy red. His clear is amazing with the fire puke and fire wave plus your shield gets a decent boost. His ganks are actually quite good. Just stun with bear and pop phoenix for some nice burst with puke and waves. For items I would get wraith (spell vamp amazing with phoenix) mobillity boots, sheen, stinger, seeker, nashors, lichbane, then some tanky items or IBC (yes i know i already have lb but the slow still procs with lb just not the damage).