Talk:Elise/@comment-167.206.174.99-20130204174918/@comment-78.49.47.96-20130204222226

I would say shes still overpowered in the lane her base dmg is just retarded on her Q exspecially in top lane. I always though Yoric is the most annoying champ to lane against but this spider is even worse^^. The nerfs were needed aslong as u dont feed her in lane shes ok to handle in teamfights. Or shes forced to build tanky for teamfights and then her dmg goes down.

Kat is really strong in the right hands but Darius is weak in teamfights aswell just dont let him catch u or flash and he cant do nothing except chase and then he dies. Plus Darius is even easier to gank than morde.