Talk:Volibear/@comment-11013454-20160124161900/@comment-11013454-20160131064246

But you don't get THAT much HP from cinderhulk anymore, and when you're at the point that you've gotten alot you've already sunk like 4 other item slots worth of items in. Granted, you need to be able to do damage as well because those items aren't gonna pay for themselves just becaus eyou got tanky. You arguably get more tanky by buying the other tank items that included armour and resistances into them because they double your defenses instead of just trying to hedge in one department.

Devourer ALSO synergizes with voilbear, btw. He's a champion who relies on hitting things to trigger both his ult and get  his frenzy stacks. Early game volibear is given that window to get damage item first anyway, because his passive basicaly acts like an emergancy defensive item. I don't need all the extra tank early game fi I can just kill the toplane champ.

Tis atleast worth considering, between the two. Cinderhulk is definately not the 'objectively best choice' anymore