Talk:Viktor/@comment-25411532-20150806021834/@comment-26011599-20150813122331

@ArbyMcSwagger Yes, pre-rework Viktor had MS boost from his upgraded Q as well. If Viktor you've played against rushed Q Augment he either 1. maxed Q first so his waveclear was really lacking, you should've abused that pushing him to his turret or 2. maxed E regardless what means that he had his MS boost once a 10 seconds, so you should've used his windows of opportunity. Veigar's early game isn't the best but it would be manageable.

With the proposed PBE changes, he won't be able to go early double Augment without setting himself behind too much so anyway you should be satisfied.