Talk:Veigar/@comment-44521797-20191127114920/@comment-28035204-20200106084307

As someone who has 800k on Veigar i feel like he's really good in most matchups. The only champs i really struggle with are Vel'koz, Xerath, Kassadin, Azir and really good Yasuo. With everyone else i don't have a problem as long as i adjust runes and item build. I found myself improving on Veigar once i stopped trying to get kills whenever i could. Yes, you have sufficent damage to kill around lvl 9, but you should avoiding it. Similar to Nasus, Veigar needs farm, not kills. It's better to not get the kill and continue farming than dying for a kill. Let the enemy come to you, not chase them around. Farming nets you both gold AND ability power, so the pressure is on your enemy, not you. Your job is to get as much ap from laning stage as possible and then snowball with that. You don't need to get nervous - you're the ticking time bomb. You should use your E only when a) enemy can't retaliate, b) you're in a kill range. Poke them with Q before going for E - wounded enemy will be more nervous than full hp one and thus will be more likely to mess up. Delay on W and E can also be used to your adventage - when enemy goes for a last hit with their auto attack, press W. It won't work in every matchup (especially against manaless enemies), but if done correctly, enemy will have to choose between last hitting that minion or avoiding your W. Honestly there are tons of things to improve. You just need to play different builds and check which one works best for you.

TL;DR Veigar is not supposed to chase after kills, he should let enemies come to him. Don't go for a kill unless it's a given and don't get nervous - time is on your side.