Talk:Thornmail/@comment-25053833-20170301071956/@comment-27004415-20170303142526

Armor penetration has been buffed, with the introduction of the new black cleaver and the new last whisper. That's from this point that thornmail and frozen heart have fallen and randuin (first deadman's plate) and sunfire cape took over, just because they would give health alongside the armor.

Problem I have with the tank itemization is that currently, only "pure stats" make an item worth purchasing. When you think about the itemization of an adc, some options would make sense in a "pure stats" point of view (rushing infinity edge), but doesn't make sense with the kit they have (sivir will always rush essence reaver). I would like to see the equivalent for tanks, riot did a good job with deadman's plate, but still this item is relevant almost only because it has health.