Talk:Kindred/@comment-27105542-20160621051758/@comment-28642928-20160622201156

If you believe that u are playing her wrong,she is still permabanned in ranked at least in diamond lvl,but when u get to see a kindred lvl 3 or 4 taking 70% of your hp just with red buff you realize that there is something wrong.

Problem with kindred is that she can still catch up if she falls behind,her ulti has a ton of utility(it can save teamates and also can allow allies to do a good amount of damage if they are close to die,etc) and a fed kindred is one of the few junglers right now that can carry really really hard a game,if she gets 4 marks early or 5 the game is pretty much over,with good warding and decent coordination from your teamates you can just put a ton of pressure on their junglers and the enemy team will try to hug the turret cause they are gonna be afraid of kindred,leaving to the common 2 v 1 situation early game where kindred invades,then survives and disrupts the game really badly for the enemy jungler and her teamates.

There are other champions out there that are strong but the problem is that good kindreds can win games really easily if they are just a little bit ahead early game.

I have been there trust me,she is still a monster and it really sucks when your jungler is helpless and u have to play the game like if it was a 4 vs 5 game when a kindred is ahead and rapes your jungler.

And final point is that there are other junglers that can do a ton of damage early on but most of these junglers are melee and they have to commit when they gank,graves is a marksman as well but he only has 1 dash,kindred has 2 much survavility vs damage+ really good kiting potential.

She is the kind of marksman jungler that is cancerous to this game.