Talk:Riven/@comment-7846894-20140514212617/@comment-7846894-20140525094041

I'm not saying there is a number error. Just feels like it. That's what the maybe was for. And honestly with top laners like Renekton, Nasus, Olaf, Garen, Tryndamere, Pantheon and maybe even Irelia, she needs to cheese. As she either can't duel them or they out scale her and can manage a safe laning phase. I mean she still does well. My internet was being weird one day and I was out of a game for like three minutes. Our Singed had fed Riven and she had two levels and items on me. I was Volibear with spirit golem and Sunfire components. She W'd me once two Q's and I'm dead. I was like Holy cow. So my benchmark would have to go with what I mentioned before, prerework Rengar. Where if you manage to get a small advantage in lane due to some sort of cheese or capitalizing on the enemies mistakes which stops happening often the higher you get up the divisions, you become godly and can control the flow of the game depending on your decision making. I think for how all the work you have to do, she's balanced as she is now. Is she a good pick? Yeah, definitely not a good first pick however, unless you're box box. Even then, he has trouble. But when he make plays, he makes plays. She's far more risk for the reward she puts out than she was before, which is good, but the risk is really high if you don't manage to get some sort of advantage in lane.