Talk:Mordekaiser/@comment-26001789-20151014203326/@comment-1876049-20151015065337

I think you're very, very confused about what being a "cliched" villain is. Apparently your idea is that if a character is evil, they're automatically a cliched villain.

Xerath is anything but a cliched villain. He's given a backstory that explains his motives for tricking Azir, which are far from the "BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I'M EVULZ" you seem to imply. Also, he didn't "steal the power anyways despite being freed" because he's a dick. He literally couldn't stop his own plan, he had already went too far and wasn't able to stop anything. Do I have to remind you of "Too late, friend. Too late, brother. Far too late for us all"? If anything, Xerath is a very complex villain: he wanted power to take revenge on the man he felt had betrayed him, when he finds out Azir hadn't betrayed him at all, it's far too late to stop his own plan, and when he obtains the power he desired his mind is ravaged and he becomes a power-hungry monster without any memories of his past self other than his obsession with being free.

Also, I don't know what you were smoking when Viktor was released, but he was intended to be a villain FROM THE VERY START. "Viktor is a villain type character." Said by Riot themselves. He was a guy whose work was stolen, who then went off the deep end and replaced himself with machinery, arguably becoming even more zealous and insane in his desire to transform all life into machinery. "Do you really think a guy who has his work stolen, and still has grudge against the man who did this, would freakin' steal another scientist job? Just like they did to him?" YES, OF COURSE HE WOULD. He thinks he has the right to do so, one, because they did it to him first (an eye for an eye) and two, because he thinks what he's doing is something positive (transforming everyone from imperfect humans to perfect machines), so he's willing to do anything to reach that goal. Also, he didn't just show up in Jayce's door and went "lol Imma steal yo stuff cuz I'm evul". He offered Jayce the chance to join in, showing he's more than a cliched evil villain (he desires the help of other scientists because he THINKS they should see that what he's doing is something good), and it was only when Jayce said no that he attacked and robbed him, because Viktor thinks what he's doing is too important to be stopped. So, he's a villain? Yes. Does he do what he does because he's just a moustache-twirling bad guy? No.