Talk:Jarvan IV/@comment-180.215.3.2-20120513111146/@comment-4917717-20120526064438

Jarvan is the most rounded. Shyvana is a better jungler, imo. Neither Trundle or Renek compare. Renek falls of SO bad. Trundle is just not as useful outside of his pillar. Get Jarvan. He is a very good jungler and solo top, while shyvana is a dominant jungler.