Talk:Udyr/@comment-69.231.221.153-20120426015628/@comment-69.231.221.153-20120426043244

u have no idea what you're talking about. udyr has a 3:28-3:30 clearing route and he is almost always dictated by blue route. mundo has a 3:15 clear, shyvana has a 3:18 clear, nocturne has a 3:24 clear (red route) and kayle has a 3:25 clear, all faster than udyr.

Mundo and Shyvana counter jungles better than Udyr but Udyr has a "safer" jungle with turtle stance so people almost never attempt to counter jungle him unless he's clearly across the map.

Udyr's ganks are good because he has reliable HARD cc while junglers such as mundo and shyvana require exhaust to pull off a decent gank. Yes Udyr is great at everything but the best at none, hes a jack of all trades.