Talk:Heimerdinger/@comment-6000413-20130403130927/@comment-5052127-20130405204940

^ yeah, it was a whole different story though when he had 3 and the total of the 3 did double the dps AND covered an area over 50% bigger than they do now.. The bigger area of the ult because of their longer range made it a LOT better and usually meant it was on champs for longer, especially because of the fact that the turrets could do that much more dps while you were in their range.

This was great late game, and not overpowered when you were in a teamfight, but it made him totally unkillable in lane... As it is now, they are so weak to make up for 2 things in lane... 1. The fact that they get to hit in a duel even if Heimer has no cds up or mana, or is cc'ed... basically they are at least some free damage he gets to apply with no effort while being attacked in lane no matter what, this makes them totally differnt from zyra's plants or anyone elses pets... and 2. their permanent zoning makes it very hard for the enemy laner to poke him down enough to make it easy to gank him. Most other champs can be whittled down if you are aggressive, he just makes you pay for it with lost damage trades every time.