Talk:Shaco/@comment-26571276-20150730062730/@comment-4888212-20150823205615

i hate having shaco on my team, he doesnt bring as much to the table as other junglers do.

having shaco on the team means you have very limited windows of usefulness of your jungler, that being the very early and the ultralate. inbetween, he is kinda ....there i guess.

i mean i understand you play him for early ganks and lategame adc assassinations (where he mostly dies after), but you could do the same shit with vi, she has good early ganks (1 gapcloser like shaco) redbuff and 2shiv slow no longer stack so slow is slow. she annihilates adc in lategame and can actually survive it. and she is useful throughout all stages of the game. shes also more tanky and has more sustained damage and more utility in form of CC and armor shred.