Talk:Elise/@comment-4167645-20121103100857/@comment-4167645-20121103152838

The only thing Elise's Q has going for it, is that on the 1st hit the 8% base damage will put its damage above the typical mage "Fireball" spell. But the 2nd will be doing equal base damage to a "Fireball" spell. The cooldown is terrible though, you'd never be able to injure a Vlad.