Talk:Nocturne/@comment-8506165-20131017143558/@comment-9705522-20131025125743

sure, the blacked out screen is a neat bonus, but here is the thing. its a telegraphing sequence. when you see it you imideatly know "noc is gonna ult someone, or their team is gonna come). tbh, i have seen very few situations where that part of the ult was really useful, and i play this game for a long while. i mean, what do you lose? minimap sight and about 200-300 units of sight. but really, what can happen in 4 seconds? what can they do in those 4 seconds? move to gank a lane, maybe. but the instinctal reaction is always "ill go to my turret and hug it". so yeah, its not really overpowered. it has strengths, it has weaknesses, but mostly, its just a long range gap closer with a mildly annoying subpart. and really, getting to the backlines in itself isnt too great. his only form of cc also requires him to stick then. i mean, vis initiation is far superior in every regard (granted, thats because vis ult is borderline stupid, but oh well). because she has instant cc, and can kill the enemy because she has a crapton of free damage. a nocturne isnt much of a threat. if you build him as a tank, he deals mediocre damage. if you build him as an assasin, you dont even deal that much damage, but get blown up in seconds. its like squishy xin zhao minus the ult.