Talk:Swain/@comment-188.2.96.124-20121211195726/@comment-4875928-20121216105023

Armegdon pls just do the math and dont speak stupid nonsens...

The moment you land a lvl 1 E with 1 autoatack the dmg is almost the same as lvl 1 Q with 1 autoatack (ofcorse if the enemy is so stupid that he will just stay around with your Q active for 3 sec's).

It scales similary the whole way, but if you have maxed E and you land your combo then dmg is greater when you max E then when you max Q.

So we already know that you have already have bigger dmg on maxed E when cast whole combo then with maxed Q. But you also should remeber that enemy cant go out of E's range when its casted (so you have always 100% chance to deal 100% dmg and not watching when enemy goes out from your Q after 0.25s and you deald almost 0 dmg to him).

To count more.. With E debuff your enemy will stay away from your range because every time he comes in he can get hit by a spell or AA and have still the extra dmg dealth.

And like i've said in this post 2 times already... THERE ARE NO PPL WHO ARE SO STUPID TO SIT 3 SEC IN YOUR Q TO TAKE 100% FROM IT.

Well if you play on a 10 elo then maybe yes so probably that's from where you point of view starts...

And actually im starting to wonder if you ever played Swain vs a living player (but if you actually think about it... BOT's arent even that stupid to sit around for 3 sec's in your Q to take full dmg).