Talk:Udyr/@comment-89.173.85.165-20120309124158/@comment-69.231.220.253-20120312002644

1. Phoenix udyr usually skips all of those except HOG which will go into your randuins later on. Replace the wriggles with Wits End for the early game damage and MR. 2. Tiger jungle is usually not as good as phoenix. Clear time is slower and is less safe comparatively. Tiger does have slightly better ganks though. Tiger would be great for laning. if someone gets close for the last hit on minion, you can activate and proceed to smack them once or twice before backing off and turtling. 3. He is good early game 1v1 and can easily counter jungle most champs save for junglers that clear just as fast as him (shyvana/mundo). His builds differentiate depending on if you go tiger or phoenix since one scales off AD and the other is better with AS. For Tiger you generally go with a typical route and build into wriggles. Follow it up with phage and build hog + situational tanky. You generally want to finish trinity force, 2-3 armor/mr items, warmogs and maybe atmas. For phoenix you want to build into AS. skip out on wriggles and build wits end, hog, tanky items and if you want more damage you can build into a Trinity force or madreds (depending on opposing team comp).