Talk:Shyvana/@comment-109.121.33.117-20121122230051/@comment-5.83.71.124-20121123042250

I disagree. With 3 AD Quints, Brute force, 1 point at Butcher, and Weapon expertise, you'll be doing 59dmg to the Lizard Elder with each AA. With the same masteries and 3 ArPen Quints (Which are 10 ArPen) you'll do 58. It's almost the same, but then your skills also scale with AD, so you'll be doing far more damage without the 10 ArPen. You can test it here, remember that the Lizard Elder has 1372 HP and 20 Armor.

About Indomitable: Well, I just prefer going a bit more aggressive and get some offense and utility masteries. Unless I'm going with a tankier character like Mundo, per example, but even with that kind of character I don't feel that Indomitable is that good when you have Enlightment around.