Talk:Volibear/@comment-87.120.65.203-20111129183511/@comment-4499980-20111129211731

"alright everybody gets thornmail. it's good, solves everything." Thornmail was a example. And it really isn't very hard to get 100 armor on any champion. His W is a lot of damage, but he's not the only one capable of dealing that much.

In regards to how Frenzy compares to Garen's ulti, I won't debate it because I agree that something's not right. I do think numbers will probably be tweaked in one or the other, as they are comparable in their mechanics. But we also need to remember that there are what, 87 champions in the league? And I'm sure that there's more than a couple of champions whose abilities deal more damage than others' ultimates.