Talk:Graves/@comment-1876049-20111012115012/@comment-206.112.75.238-20111014151436

His passive will be garbage just like Xerath's. They aren't going to make a carry gain a decent amount of defense by being/with the capacity to build glass cannon. Graves also scales over time, and team fights are decided in a few seconds. You can say this is all theorycrafting, but it's a pretty sound theory when you think about it. Are they going to let him have 25 Ar/Mr after 4 seconds? You bet not. Is that even good? Not really.