Talk:Garen the Night of Demacia/@comment-28684-20110917191206/@comment-112.200.34.19-20110920120459

Ooops sorry. I just quickly scanned his confusing way of writing his ideas. Anyway, he wants to nerf Garen's early game and buff his late game. Here are some of the problems i see with that:

While it is true that Garen's early game damage potential is awesome, this is countered by the fact that he is easily kited and has no gap closing skill. So no, changes to his early game is not needed.

Late game, Garen is somewhat lack-luster. This is not due to his damage but because he has no gap closer, thus he will have a really hard time getting to the squishies of the opposing team. But then again, giving him some sort of gap closer is just incredibly unfair.

So basically, Garen is a fun pick because of his early to mid game, but just falls of late game. That is the way he is designed. You're proposed changes will not really solve his late game that much because he still cannot get close to the opponent's squishies.

Finally, physical damage from ulti might be too OP for Garen.