Talk:Gragas/@comment-15562896-20130314052502

I've tried maxing Q but honestly I'm not hundred percent sure. It costs a shitton of mana (seriously it's one of those regular spells that costs more mana than most ultimates.. wtf?), and while the AS debuff / AoE damage is nice, I'm thinking maxing W might be superior.

More mana regen, more AD (=> more E damage), more tankiness. I'd max this first. Probably would have to run AS reds though. And some kind of hybrid pen quints, I guess. Perhaps hybrid pen quints and marks?