Talk:Veigar/@comment-27004415-20151002120239/@comment-27004415-20151002151830

you can not compare jinx's e and veigar's e. Veigar's e is far too reliable offensively right now. What's the risk of using it offensively if you can at some point of the game use one rotation  to destroy a carry. Right now, the adcs with a dash who can actually escape veigar aggression are too weak (lucian, ez and graves). If you compare with "safer" ap carries, none can match the range of this hard cc except xerath, but he can stun one target only, and it doesn't have a zoning component to it unlike veigar's e.

What''s the point point of having a "vulnerable" veigar if he has already deleted one of your main source of damage.