Talk:Swain/@comment-4559227-20111116071037/@comment-70.173.150.83-20111116084807

If you win against a kass or malz then they must be bad players. Kass is the strongest ap mid counter, and all of malz's skills out range swain. If swain every steps up to do his full combo, malz can drop him down before he even knows what happened to him. With the silence from malz's Q, you can't even turn on your ult before u get suppressed.