Talk:Veigar/@comment-88.192.162.137-20121222212056/@comment-88.192.162.137-20121222214406

No mana regen items needed. Crowd control ability. And that ulti is just ridiculously overpowered.

You get easily 770 Ap + 35% Magic penetration and 15 flat magic penetration.

That is 924 Ap + 500 = 1424 Ap

Targeting to enemy apc, it will add easily 400 more ap and the baleful strike passive. The range of the ulti isn't that bad either, 650.

People don't use him that much, but to be honest, he has everything you need except high mobility. That ulti really needs a nerf.