Talk:Lee Sin/@comment-10590654-20140613055028/@comment-10590654-20140613074450

Ahem sorry I exagerated, not as extremely overplayed and overpowered, when I spoke of season 3 it was when they nerfed E and removed armor on w and everyone was like "EMAGHERD WHY U NO PICK JARVAN OR VI NAB GG". That was the best period for me except for my pre 30 leveling where I could play him  without feeling like I was cheating/abusing op picks.

He was not blatantly overpopular like now. It was bad before now it's worse, it's like Ezreal season 2 bad and that's sayin somethng. Problem is this patch and even in general for the last few, we have had 4 junglers exclusively, the jungle is becoming so stale, I'm focusing on Lee but yeah it is a jungle thing, but this time there really is no one except elise who can fight back.

So basically the problem is he is overplayed and OP which makes it hell to try and jungle nasus, and shaco (then again i deserve it for playing shaco, the evil) or hell the fan favorite nautilus.

I started this on the lee page but yeah I guess I'll just expand it to the jungle in general, having elise lee and eve in the jungle exclusively is a bit sad.

Maybe I'll begin a thread on RoG about this but to stay on topic, Lee needs a nerf to midgame imo and maybe even late game if we want to keep the transition from good early bad late thing.