Talk:Singed/@comment-26433263-20151003173020/@comment-4068613-20151013235018

Not spamming mana, it's exactly one item that provides mana in addition to big AP and health. Rylai's costs more, and in terms of raw health, grants significantly less later in the game.

You can get both, as I often do. They're both good. Pretending that mana is completely useless doesn't make it true, though, and completely discounting that aspect of the item doesn't do any favors for your credibility.

Statwise, Rylai's gives marginally better health on-purchase, and after you've stacked RoA a few times, it grants significantly more health and the same amount of ability power. RoA makes you wait for the stats, which is a drawback, but if you use the laning phase as a resource instead of feeling like you need to completely dominate your opponent as early as possible, the true value of an early RoA shines through, allowing you to have a much more effective stat base moving into the mid and lategame.

The slow passive on rylai's is invaluable, and I don't recommend giving it up in a full build, but during the laning phase, all the free health and mana you get from the catalyst passive makes a big difference in sustain and trades.

I'm really not getting the whole "single item that has mana in it == spamming mana". It's one item. We're not even disagreeing much, but you're getting really condescending and obnoxious over the amusing folly of anyone who spends gold on a stat other than health and damage.

Just chill out on the condescending explanations of what stats are and how gold efficiency works. We all play in different metas where different strategies work well.