Talk:VPBE/@comment-24124762-20150406103846/@comment-3974211-20150407215303

The lack of an ultimate is the real problem as I hoped I had implied when I said "their lack of an ultimate is compensated with unreasonably powerful basic abilities, despite the fact it's already compensated with having 3 extra abilities."

Let's say most champions have three 1-power abilities and one 1.5-power ability (their ultimate), for a total power budget of 4.5.

Rek'Sai has, let's say, seven 0.65-powered abilities - which nets her a total power budget of 4.55. Yes, she's a little stronger than other champions, but she does lack that 1.5-powered ability - so a little bit of compensation is fair.

The issue with Lee Sin, Nidalee, Jayce and Karma is that they have six 1-power abilities and one 0-power ability (the toggle). This means they have a total power budget of 6. This is why they are obnoxious compared to other champions. Jayce and Karma in particularly have badly designed kits, not even taking into account how overloaded the individual abilities are; while Nidalee and Lee Sin share a fairly similar and decent play-pattern, and it's simply the fact their overloaded that's unfair (e.g. Nidalee can have sustain and be fair - it just cannot be a support-tier heal).

This is oversimplifying the problem a little bit. There's also progression-over-time, which Lee Sin, Nidalee, Jayce and Karma all have difficulty with (unless they snowball, they will often feel like they're always behind). It's probable that they have such powerful basic abilities to off-set this weakness - but that's not good design.