Talk:Shen/@comment-3450702-20110617171132/@comment-3450702-20110617171851

As a comparison, Veigar's Baleful Strike has just a .6 AP scaling, admittedly deals 30 more base damage and gains 45 damage each rank, while Vorpal Blade is just 40/rank; but Veigar's Q has an 8 second cooldown at rank 1 and still 4 at rank 5. So, Shen's Vorpal Blade deals 210 Damage each 3 seconds, and Veigar's Q deals 260 each 4. Shen deals 70 + 0.22AP every second, while veigar only does 65+0.15AP. Of course, Veigar has an ult and Dark Matter that scale sweetly(also DFG), but DM never hits 9 out of 10 times and the ult is usable only once every 2 mins. What does this mean? Shen has much better sustained damage than Veigar, whether with items or without, and the fact that it's also without makes him so beastly.