Talk:Riven/@comment-66.189.212.47-20130220065410/@comment-2124153-20130220143042

I run flat AD, but after this latest change to Runic Blade, I've been considering ArPen Marks and Flat AD Quints instead.

The buff camps and Dragon all have 20-21 Armor, Wraith has 15, and Big/Little Golem have 12 Armor. Sunder by itself isn't enough to zero out their Armor (only gives 5 ArPen at max), but an extra 11.52 from Marks gets you most of the way there.

I'll be experimenting with it later. Expecting to need a stronger leash, though, because that extra AD is useful early when a Q rotation isn't enough to pop the small monsters by itself.