Talk:Graves/@comment-4539735-20130308181300/@comment-7095057-20130311043913

Graves is one of the few ADCs that can almost single handedly carry his entire team. Your burst may not kill but that isn't a problem for graves because as an adc he can easily kill without skills. The burst in team fights is an immense game changer. It can force teams back. It can insta kill low health  players. It can turn around a bad initiation into a good one for the sole reason that it's fast, it's burst, and it can force the enemy ADC or APC to back out of the team fight because they drop too low. If your burst combo isn't dropping the ADC/APC down under 50% you aren't building graves right or you're way too far behind.