Talk:Renekton/@comment-195.228.233.173-20130104230804/@comment-5009341-20130106130535

^uh, i guess my point of view is quite outdated,

i wasnt talking about offtank darius, who really is on par with rene,

but fulltank darius with someoffense runes and masteries,

full tank darius HAD huge sustain because of philo, and tankyness because of hog, ninja and warden, as a adofftank it was really hard to lane against him, because of his high basedamage, then when the time would come that he falls off, he would simply skill his e and suddenly wouldnt fall off at all, while being hyper tanky

but i forgat that they removed hog, nerfed philo, made ninja more expensive, changed warden (no sustain)

so y, u are right, now tank darius isnt as strong as he used to be

and even though offtank darius got buffed, the incoming nerf will hopefully balance out his cc power

(btw darius actual best roll would have been supp, but ppl didnt try it so riot didnt nerf him earlier, u can try it, it is like aoe blitzpull through minions, with megaslow w, and q harass keeps them bleeding, ult for killstealing, so u get back into the game (ur adc has his minions, 1 kill~20 minions, so it shouldnt be much of a problem) lategame u have a warding tank, with oracles and the damage of carry, perfectly balanced)