Talk:Riven/@comment-7846894-20140514212617/@comment-10428734-20140518124827

All you need to do to beat Riven is to not die early game. Because you WILL outsustain her. If Riven has not killed you by level 9, she pretty much lost the lane and will probably never come back (unless she gets fed by KS-ing with Wind Slash in teamfights, which -forgive me- is something she has to do when she is behind).

Take Renekton. Even if he does not kill his opponent, he can still win his lane by outsustaining the opponent. Plus he does not need to be fed to have a mid game presence. In mid game teamfights, a 0/0 Renekton is more useful/annoying than a 0/0 Riven imo. That's because Riven cannot sacrifice damage for survability: when underfed, she is not only weak, but also very squishy. Renekton can still go Sunfire build and be a meat shield.

Another thing is the new TP. This change really hurt lane bullies, as a late game monster like Jax can easily survive your early game then just **** on you once he get 2 items.

Don't get me wrong, Riven is not weak. She is still one of the scariest champion when fed and she still wrecks Shen/Malph/Singed/Mundo... In fact, I feel like Riven has become MORE snowball-dependent than ever, as she really needs to get her first kill ASAP, or she will naturally lose the lane. Before the nerfs, you had to counterpick to win against Riven. Now, you have to counterpick to win as Riven.