Talk:Zyra/@comment-68.98.9.242-20120717003021

Haven't played her but you Q looks incredibly lackluster, max rank is a mediocre damage nuke, on a mediocre cooldown, with no inherent effect. Sure it creates the vine spitters with her W, but that's her W skill slot being used and just having her Q being cast as a requirement.

Compared to Cass who's Q has more damage, on a shorter cooldown which doesn't need to be leveled down for CDR (Zyra's Q starts out at 7 seconds while Cass's starts at 3) and has it's own runner effect in addition to being used by another skiller (Her E). In addition to this, Cass's Q costs less mana, ending up at the same cost as Zyra's starts out as, and gets it's cost lowered further by Cass's passive.

And while I don't necessarily like comparing individual abilities to other champions as each champion's kit is different and someone's entire kit is needed to be looked at for balance, not an individual ability. Zyra's Q just seems...there...It's her main casting damage and is incredibly uninteresting. It interacts with her W but it seems more like a requirement than a bonus to the spell itself since W does nothing but ward on it's own and the damage that comes from the plant feels like it comes from the W skill not her Q skill. Also as being her damage skill and her E being her cc, the two plants deal the same damage, the only real difference is range instead of a slow, which feels just meh as it's again her pure damage skill.

TL:DR Zyra's Q feels incredibly vanilla and meh.