Talk:Swain/@comment-2.82.100.96-20120611132948/@comment-5018910-20120611134946

Maybe as a 3rd or 4th item. But definitely not an item to be rushed. Maybe it is just me, but I do so much better rushing RoA. The health it gives plus my MR runes is more than enough to keep me alive in the early to mid game.

One of chalice's few good passives is that it makes you less reliant on blue buff but as I mentioned in my previous post, the cost for the item as a whole is just too high for the stats it gives. I'd prefer more hp over MR in this case.

Also, I am sorry to save but hourglass should be a core item on him. It gives you 2 seconds of invunerability:

1)Gives you time for your teammates to help you,

2)Give you time to sit out a few seconds of ignite,

3)Give you time for your skills to come back up.

It is pretty much a "lifesaver" button, a second chance for you to come back into the teamfight if anything went south for you.