Talk:Pantheon/@comment-120.144.73.147-20120501132343/@comment-142.32.208.237-20120501193425

Then neither of you are playing right. If you're sucking near the END of early game. I'd say you just suck.

Panth's primetime ends more closely to 25-30 mark (30-35 if fed) where he'd need to get tankier to be able to dish out damage, and find it harder to find lone champs wandering.

I agree on the pubstomping. However Pantheon is easily capable of being a fundamental team mate thanks to his utility from his ult and stun. A similar problem can be found with Renekton and other Ad Casters (Riven excluded thanks to pure AD Scaling on everything).

He isn't DPS, don't treat him as one. Build him tankier. Maw of Malmortius, Mercury Atma's, FM. He still has potential in teamfights too, though that remains with sacrificing yourself with your W to save the carry, or initiating. Also prepare yourself for a fight by AA'ing nearby minions to get your shield up.

Aside, I'll stick with the "even less than 10 minute cap" comment. If you suck during his EARLY GAME. You kinda just suck as Panth, period.