Talk:Garen/@comment-4934699-20130129075458/@comment-58.107.169.193-20130202121159

You realise you just said: X isn't OP, I play all his (semi) counters, therefore he is fine. The fact is, he dominates so many lanes with so little effort that it's frankly stupid. Even against ranged he won't win, but he can not lose the lane thanks to his passive and natural ridiculous tankiness.