Talk:Jarvan IV/@comment-4499945-20120722203928/@comment-4929329-20120722215401

In top, Udyr is actually a better counter than in the jungle, becuase he can sit in the minion wave, forcing you to Q if you want any farm at all, and even then he just heals or shields the harass. Well, basically anyone like Udyr tends to counter Jarvan in top for the same reasons.

In the jungle, it's whoever wrecks the lane first, like Lee Sin causing your lanes to die before you even get there, but aside from that, you don't have too much to fear. Nunu is a serious nuisance though, as he destroys your sustained dmg, snowballs hurt, a LOT, and if you try to gapclose with EQ, you die to Absolute Zero.