Talk:Vayne/@comment-10258129-20130820110353

Guys, OP Vayne? 6 months ago she was bearly picked, and now, all off a sudden, she is OP? she still has the crappiest early game, she needs certain supp to be sucessful and, like all hypercarries, high risk - high reward (late game champs). take cait, for example. she is the master of early game, tower tanking, wave clearing (not an hyper carry). if she gets ahead erly the hole team wil benefit (more drakes and turrts distroied).

now, just because people re-leraned to play Vayne (like they learned to play blue Erz, e.g.) she is suddently OP? jesus, make up your minds! she was like that all along! Besides, any nerf to her will make her unbalanced. (rengar style, either he is too OP or too UP).She is balanced, people just need to get in their minds new ways to counter her! I sugest Tristana: late game hyper carry, great scape/chase mechanism (plus her R can crete a nice distance) and can harass froma a far (E explosions + E dmg.)

Everyone has counters. until people learn to count a certain champ, he will always be OP....

GL & HF