Talk:Orianna/@comment-87.211.80.3-20121121165129/@comment-90.48.208.36-20121124105111

"you won't deal near to any damage if you max Q in lane"

so yeah your grammar is bad ? and double negative ? makes you say "you will deal damage when maxing Q "

which is true because you use QWQ in trades in lane once you hit 9 thus dealing more then a Q+W

also ? you put your ball BEHIND the creeps to hit the oponent first (more damage) and ? zone him

maxing W even for farming is bad because you'll get oom thus less farming early ? and just hitting creeps each once then Qing to get all cs is much better mana wise early

the skill order is R>Q>W>E (take one E point at level 2 against good early gankers, ? it can stop an ignite 's damage and ? make you survive those shaco/alistar/lee ganks)

and even if you have no blue : max Q ? cost less then max W

and by not maxing Q you lose the whole lane bully potential with your zoning

armegdon just max Q first in a game and zone with the ball you'll understand why this is the best way, np my pleasure