Talk:Singed/@comment-5490997-20130524091627/@comment-9551446-20130601111228

Full stacked Roa gives 812.5 hp and 650 mana still has the catalist passiv (ok its not that great anymore) and 80 ap vs Archangel that gives 250 hp 1000 mana some regen ( kinda ignorable) and with 2k mana at lvl 18 120 ap + the shield the gives roughly 450 hp and its on 2 min cd.

So overall Archangle is better dmg wise and mana wise while Roa gives a little more tankyness. Archangle is a little bit stronger and cheaper than Roa but you have to use the shield perfectly. When you waste some of the shield or its on cd Roa is the better choice.

Another small advantage of tear-Archangel is that you get your rylias a bit faster though.

Both items are great on Singed but you should only get one of them.

Personally i like Roa more. Its reliable and gives you the tankyness you want without a 2 min cd. I want to charge in whenever my ult is up and not like to wait for the shield cd aswell.