Talk:Irelia/@comment-201.221.216.126-20121104191350/@comment-90.6.241.233-20121105164850

it's more that irelia is in the riven/jax/irelia type of tops :

not too strong in early game but if you give them a level advantage or a kill it's nearly impossible to pick a trade again because they'll dash your face and kill you, them snowball monsters (yes i said riven is not too strong early,  her damage is good early but no sustain  and weak shield before you get some good bonus AD hurts)

irelia is the safest of the 3, jax is safe too but has no sustain   ganking riven and jax is harder though because irelia needs to juke to gtfo with a dash when she's nto overextended

but the 3 are safe picks who have no real counters and scale extremely well into late game ( yeah irelia and jax scale best but a well played riven late can implode a carry while being deceptively tanky thanks to the ridiculous shield she gets late game )

ofc they have good and bad matchups i know malphite beats jax BUT you can't get STOMPED like crazy

or olaf owns riven 1v1 early

but still, their mobility and cc = hard to gank but can help to CC on a gank to get kills and in games top lanes are often won by junglers ( not talking about normals against derps who go 0/4 without any gank)

they're strong because they're hard to gank while scaling well into late game with farm AND having CC to grab kills when your jungler ganks

( good cc on top lane is madness, like playing lee sin top when you have a shyvanna jungle,  you do low she can easily come melee to do the damage, never forget the jungler.)

and yes renek shits on irelia early game