Talk:Vayne/@comment-26001789-20150511175944/@comment-26001789-20150515061311

Vayne's issue was never the fact that teams could turtle a lategame 45 minute 5 item Vayne, it was more in the sense that everything and anyone could gapclose into Vayne's pitiful range and squish her because her defensive itemization, stats and upclose dueling is absolute trash. Maokai was considered one of her greatest counters but suddendly, even in TreeMeta, she is considered good again? How?