Talk:Vi/@comment-9705522-20130722153631/@comment-9705522-20130801215001

oh i didnt say he wasnt strong. he was. but the main problem didnt come from him. it came from his effectiveness chained with cc. in other words, if you get ccd and then olaf rushes at you, yeah, its over. but thats true for many champions. also, the real reason vi wasnt a top pick for a long time, before getting her initial brokenness acknowledged and picked like 90% of the time, was the same reason that happened to jayce. and kha zix. she was a sleeper. ill admit, im not sure how that happens, because i remember me being quite clear with them being op in 2 weeks, and i saw a few pros saying the same, but somehow they went by unnoticed. also, lee sins design might be "cool", but its really bad. the problem is, he has literally every good major mechanic in lol. 2 dashes, missing hp damage, shield, free sustain, poke spell, aoe magic damage scaling with ad and and aoe reveal. aoe cripple which just happens to be the best one in the game beating even nasus cripple, an ult that deals very high damage gives hard cc, and has dispositioning abilities, and on top of that, energy, doesnt run out of energy, and has free attack speed. and the thing with amumu is, his bandage toss has a decent travel time, and his ult has only 550 range. and well, with the name of the current game being "league of mobility", most champion can get away from it, especially ad carries. yknow, since most of em have some sort of dash anyway. also, the problem with the rework is, that im not sure how much it will help him. he has no gapcloser, which in the current game is huge. and even if his w gives him more movement speed, im not sure how much difference that makes seeing how nowadays everyone plays champions with cc and disengages. plus, his mana problems in the jungle are also problematic. i highly doubt he will be ever viable again. sadly.