Talk:Karma/@comment-1920550-20141223000400/@comment-4636093-20141223012929

Indeed. Something fun to know is that when you press R you have 8 seconds to cast your empowered spell, however the cooldown on R starts when you press the button.

If you have 40%CDR bringing your ult down to a 21.6 second cooldown, press R, wait 7 seconds (ult now has a cooldown of 14 seconds), hit all 5 enemy champions with an empowered E (ult now has a 4 second cooldown), then use W on someone. Then you can literally cast 2 empowered spells within 1 second of each other.