Talk:Graves/@comment-4344970-20111112081426/@comment-65.46.62.54-20111112094309

I agree that he needs the nerfs, but what i'm concerned about is the problems with graves aren't just his numbers, it's the kit itself that is too good, so what i'm suspecting is he will get nerfed til the point where having the kit won't matter because the numbers will be too low, at which point he will just not be that great of a pick anymore. this is what happened to jarvan, vlad, and other champs who had similar problems at launch.

ordinarily i wouldn't really care, but regardless of how OP he is, he is one of the only ranged ad's i have fun playing. if what i think will happen goes through and he gets more nerfs (and before you say anything, i'm not saying "YES THIS WILL DEFINITELY HAPPEN BECAUSE I SAID SO"), i might as well just not play the role at all like i do now for the most part.

i'm not implying the game should be changed around my preferences, this is just how i personally feel.