Talk:Camille/@comment-7095057-20161128223144

Looking for a bit of confirmation here, but her ult oes not stop you from flashing or using dashes WITHIN her ult. That is to say, you aren't Grounded when you are the target of her ultimate. This thus is a new form of CC if that's the case.

This is important as a distinction as it can note if a champion can fight back or not. Camille's target should be allowed to fight back, so my thoughts would be that the target is not grounded, but is not able to leave the zone. Thus dashes and other abilities would still be usable.

If she instead grounds her target, then she shuts down a huge chunk of champs with just ulting the right target. Vayne, Riven, Katarina, Ahri, Fiora, Ekko, Zed are all champs that rely very heavily on their ability to outmanevuer their opponents and kill quickly using mobility based skills. If Camille grounds them, she will be shutting down a huge swath of current champs, as many won't be able to use the skills they need to do damage (This does make sense to avoid situations where Ekko tries to jump anotehr target outside with his E however). This makes it unreasonable for several top laners to ever fight her post 6 without a strong lead early (Riven, Fiora)

There is also the question of when this new CC is applied. If it's applied on when Camille lands (Most likely from the videos), then what will happen if the champion dashes out of the ult range mid jump? Will Camille jump with them, or will she land where she was going to originally. My guess is the former, as it make more sense and be easier to deal with.

The final question here is untargetables/Scimitar/Banshee's Viel. How does her ult work when someone zhonya's or something similar mid jump. Can it be clensed? Will banshee's Viel stop the ult as well?