Talk:Lee Sin/@comment-25912163-20150203032206/@comment-26090928-20150216065044

From what I've seen (and this is purely anecdotal evidence) a lot of people seem to dislike Lee Sin solely because of his early game. Often he'll decide to invade and counter jungle you unless you're also an offensively oriented jungler who can duel him, and his early ganks are very strong even with wards up because of his mobility.

Ultimately I agree with you, because everything you say is true. Lee Sin scales poorly and falls off hard. But he's a fucking nightmare for tank junglers with poor early clears, and often prevent them from getting the ball rolling much of early game. Which is extra irritating because of how the harsher season 5 jungle is already unkind to certain tank junglers' first and second clears.

So you've got this situation where Lee Sin isn't amazing, but he centralizes the jungle because of the way he stomps junglers who can't deal with invades. It's why despite being not so good his ban rate is fairly high, because if you want to play someone like Rammus you need him gone.