Talk:Heimerdinger/@comment-186.136.186.166-20120623170222/@comment-5052127-20120625040524

If I'm duo laning or I'm top against AD, I build grenades and I like getting CDR earlier for the extra utility, and survivability; it helps me use grenade's blind a lot more to harass and zone them, as well as make it harder for them to damage me (grenade with maxed cdr is a 3 second blind every 5 seconds.. NOT fun for an AD trying to farm, especially a melee, and that blind really screws AD, especially carries, during engagements).

Usually what I do in these cases is rush glacial shroud (YES, Glacial Shroud... it's remarkably stat-efficient, and THE fastest, cheapest way to get a good combination of cooldown reduction, mana, and survivability.. the cooldown reduction is practically free thanks to all the extra mana you get for shroud's item cost)... It's enough armor along with my health regen passive that I can farm forever regardless of poke, with enough mana and CDR to practically spam my abilities. Once I have shroud, I can harass and zone like mad. They pretty much can't touch me at this point and I still do very nice early damage just from my abilities' base damage and the MPen from sorc shoes. If they try to dive me at the tower they WILL die... I go straight AP after that, so my damage still ramps up quickly; I farm up my deathcap and go from there, often getting a Rylai's after the deathcap for the health.