Talk:Tryndamere/@comment-3017217-20140213125652/@comment-6281696-20140215224552

Meh, win-rates don't mean much. Once you get passed bronze if your team mostly consists of morrons the opponents will probably be able to handle you with the 5 of them as they at least know some basic tactics. Relativly easy to win your lane but ultimatly lose because the others are outplayed (or just downright idiotic, yay for suicidal carries...).

As for olaf, yea he is a pain when fed. Olaf I rarely see though, but plenty of other options. And it goes for most of the bruisers really, they all eventually get to a point where they can live just long enough to quickly kill the ADC & AP after which there isn't anything left to really stop them if you don't have a similar bruiser on your team. But the major difference between them is really that an Olaf (or any other character) can still be killed. I can still knock him back, I can still damage him, my own defenses still serve some point (or well, my defenses are of more use than against 300AD at 2AA/s with a 100% crit and 40% armor penetration.. damage heavily outscales defense regardless in this game). Against trynda I can either choose between unloading everything on him, and die to his teammates, or ignore him and die to him. Against other bruisers I at least stand a chance to keep him of the carry on my own for a while (albeit a small chance ones they have a full build)

Plus trynda's ulti allows him to get away with extremely bad plays. For example I once laned against one as Garen. I got a 2 kill lead or something (something like 3-1), more creeps and a two level advantage. Eventually he reaches six, just charges in at me and well, I expect to just kill him cuz I have a massive item and level advantage and I'm under my tower and I'm surrounded by creeps. Anyway, he ultimatly kills me and gets away with about 10Hp or something. In total he has now taken about twice his health in actual damage, yet he is not dead. This is without me using my ulti as there isn't much point to that while he is in his immortal stage. From that point onward, even though I still have a massive lead & completly outplay him I can no longer duel him thanks to the immortality. Ultimatly we still won the game as beyond that he was still awefull and we were winning all other lanes too. But he's the only champion I ever saw pull of such a complete yet unskilled comback, and it pretty much perfectly describes what is wrong with him. His ultimate simply fixes 99% of the mistakes he makes, even if he is completly dominated.