Talk:Garen/@comment-87.172.193.38-20130208075452/@comment-87.172.198.84-20130210123437

^well, about the ranges, only thing you have to dodge is her skillshot-hold, the slow can be countered by a timed Q and once you are close her cd are longer than she survives in most times, if not: use W and the time she gets by holding you isn't that much longer than the cast-time she takes and you're usually closer than before. Since I don't build the usual IE-Fail Garen, I can pick off most enemys under a tower with ease. Usually the only counters I face are high sustain tanky champs (Xin, since WW and Udyr are pretty much useless atm).