Talk:Ryze/@comment-5571637-20140219104144/@comment-7967732-20140220093059

Seraph can easily adds 150 extra AP late game (3000+ mana Ryze), which is about 60 extra damage each Q, 90 extra damage each W and some for E as well. The same Ryze with Muramana deal 90 extra damage each Q and W (provide you have max mana at first, the longer the fight, the lesser the damage), no extra damage for E, and it's physical (everyone has free armor each level, so the bonus damage is easily resisted)

I haven't count the shield that Seraph can give. Atm, Seraph>>>> Muramana both damage wise and defense wise.