Talk:Fizz/@comment-9168001-20130506092412/@comment-5955640-20130520182711

I've seen plenty of Fizz players build Lich Bane. You can do the same and I really didn't say that you shouldn't. In fact I did give a standard build I just suggested a generic mage build and additional items with interesting effects. Ya know. In case being a glass canon isn't enough.

Veigar counters all mages on principle how is this hard to understand? You build AP and that makes his ult more effective. After level 6 it's kill or be killed as Fizz can burst Veigar down but if Fizz gets stunned or hit by his ult he's just as dead as Veigar would be if he got Q'd by Fizz.

Why would you want to put points into the passive when you could be putting points into the main damage dealer Q? I guess if you want to save mana by doing it like that it's fine.

E can only dodge one thing and it's cooldown is fairly decent. Anybody who has seen a Fizz in lane knows that his only counter to aggression is to dodge it with his E. Also. He can't use E if you place the horizon ontop of him before he has a chance to read your movements. All Veigar has to do is be clever which is what one should expect from any player until they show you otherwise.