Talk:Trundle/@comment-83.131.58.80-20120928232305/@comment-83.131.36.98-20120930003013

OP here,thank you all for opinions............based on what you said Trundle is utility champion and i have to agree he has good utility with his Q,E,R but what bothers me is his damage output - AD carry Trundle sucks,if he builds squishy he will very soon be bursted down and what is the point of building him squishy when champions like irelia,olaf,riven etc. can build tanky and still deal damage comparable to squishy AD carry trundle.He is autoattacker and he needs a lot of time to do his damage,his Q while good early is just weak onhit ability - compare it to other on hit enhancements champ like rengar,nasus,poppy,jayce,darius,kha zix,wukong etc. have,and it is his only damageing ability.New junglers that come out have gap closers,amazing cc and burst that allows them to kil quickly and those things are necessary because you dont have time to lose during ganks.Trundle jungle was strong before but it is subpar now,yeah he is good counterjungling early but there are guys like nunu who do much more for their team and still counterjungle better.I like UP and underplayed champs but what dissapointed me the most was that i felt i was doing more damage to squishies with jungle amumu,nautilus,malphite than with trundle and i didnt expecte that because all old junglers like olaf,udyr........had great damage output and fast clear times.I guess i will use this refund,didnt know it was possible,thanks :)