Talk:Riven/@comment-5077844-20141102214444/@comment-4834593-20141109070746

Okay, time for a reply. I got a bit delayed because I got ill and didn't feel like replying to something too serious.

Your proposed E change is a pretty interesting mechanic. Considering Riven currently has an around 50% win rate, I would say that she'd need to get a minor buff to make up for it, and I'd say that upping her negative health regen to something noticable would be a nice compensation, which would basically mean that her shield got changed instead of her health regen nerfed.

I do want to mention that "hyperscaling" though, Diana (only if broken and refreshed after), Janna, Karma (equal except when using RE, then better), Lulu, Lux (when refreshing after breaking OR hitting at least one ally), Morgana (only magic damage, but comes with cc immunity), Rumble (only empowered) and shen (though AP shen is an off-build) ALL have better scaling shields, and even soraka's 2 second cooldown HEAL scales better than Riven's shield. You just call it "hyperscaling" because there's a 100% there, but then you forget 100% AD = 50% AP in terms of how much gold you need for it. Oh, yeah, and I didn't really look at any other heals.

And actually, Riot seems to actually want people to use it as a free anti-harras, considering they said that her health regen got nerfed/removed so that a Riven player would have to shield all eventual damage coming her way and not NEED that health regen.

shyvana was a season 4 top laner, right? A lot has changed in the meantime, but there has been a LONG time where about every top laner had cc. Currently not all of them are equally popular, but Riven was designed back when every top laner had sustain, and it had been said that her health regen was her form of (relatively weak) sustain. Why remove it? If we do so, why don't we remove Yorick's heal? Irelia's heal? Olaf's heal? shen's heal? Gangplanks heal? Nidalee's heal? Why only remove ONE champion's sustain?