Talk:Swain/@comment-180.194.250.79-20130102120021/@comment-41.36.218.125-20130103001058

well said  by the guy above me xD

veigar became even harder to play after the changes to deathfire grasp.its his core item and now its very expensive and u cant use kages pick to get it so it takes more time for him to be effective.swain on the other hand benefits from the changes.the cheaper ROA and athenes + the new liandry s torment work well for him.