Talk:Rumble/@comment-71.186.194.241-20120726021221/@comment-4929329-20120726060906

Garen doesn't hardcounter Rumble, what the heck are you talking about?

Rumble has some range, but more importantly, he has a 1k range SLOW, that STACKS, and applies itself again, so for Garen to harass Rumble, he'd have to waste his Spin to Win, and by then Rumble's shield will make Garen wish he never even tried. Rumble's also good at stopping passives like Garen's and Malphite's. Just don't let Garen get to you, that's the secret.

Rumble has basically always been this strong, it's just that people now find it easier to land his Flamespitter.

Solo Queue vs Teams is a big difference, too, so be careful which one you are talking about, because even pre-rework post-nerf Evelynn could jungle to 1950 ELO, and Twitch during that same time period was up in 2.2k ELO. Talon is also used in SoloQ. Do you see Talon in ranked teams? Nope.