Talk:Twisted Fate/@comment-4636093-20120404174219/@comment-92.20.169.133-20120411112539

This is all a bit depressing. Upon close scrutiny, I have come to discover that TF can both AP carry in a unique and fun and very effective way (for all the reasons mentioned everywhere on this thread) and be an unstoppable force of *late* game AD carry. I used to deny both of these things, saying he deserves a buff but the truth of the matter is, if you give a physically scaling, 2 second stun (every 4 seconds) it'd be far too strong especially early game, and if you gave him 3 fantastic AD-relavent abilities to play with, his utility would be too strong.

I filled my entire match history with 5:1 wins as TF AD carry, I don't think he's weak. Like tristana, he's outclassed at the start of the game, but a bit of nurturing leads him to rape everyone. I mean come on, even if that vayne or graves IS a little more fed than you, when would it matter when they're stunned? I think it's ignorant to say that either is stronger, especially when they're vastly different.