Talk:Shyvana/@comment-26580721-20150706235937/@comment-26580721-20150707144704

Even if you max her E first, the huge cooldown makes it useless to poke, as the enemy will have healed back by the time you can throw it again. It's her only ranged ability, and it scales off AP. Compare it with other ranged abilies from bruisers like pantheon or olaf, and you can see that they at least scale off AD, even if they have a low AD ratio, but at least it makes the skill useful for poking with an AD bruiser, like shyvana is. Her ult is her only gap closer, yes, but the real problem is not the initial cast of her ult, it is that her dragon form skillset is just stupid, as it only makes her skills "AoE", when two of them (W and E) are already AoE spells. Her dragon form doesn't have any personality at all, unlike the other shapeshifting champs like Gnar, Elise, Quinn or Nidalee.