Talk:Ryze/@comment-2248060-20130105204214/@comment-123.192.200.21-20130110044147

Always Seraph>Muramana

Muramana relies to much on blue buff and do lower damage if you have below half mana. In order to let muramana to function, you can not toggle on when not in teamfight, thus reduce the farming/ baron/ after teamfight duels effectiveness. Plus the fact that Seraph dramaticlly increase the survibility against what counter ryze: burst damage. Also Muramana do not push tower faster than Seraph' Embrace, in fact, with ROA and other AP items like void or wota, Seraph's Embrace push tower faster.