Talk:Vladimir/@comment-3276188-20120731015059/@comment-94.168.30.138-20120815015323

if you are fighting a lot with the lane opponent you lose cs. you lose it when you get poked/poke back, when you engage, when either jungler turns up, when you are low on hp so have to recall etc etc. there isnt a set point you should aim for in farm you should just be aiming for more than the enemy. this is why pretty much all pros take mids/tops who farm very easily. ie anivia karthus morgana ahri gragas tf vlad irelia, even morde on occasion. if you can outfarm the opponent (who is for example playing fizz) and you dont die to jungle ganks, then you are winning the lane. and remember winning the lane leads to winning the game. especially with mid.