Talk:Muramana/@comment-7709681-20140703233050/@comment-10428734-20140708162353

Aside from the recipe change (which is the only good thing), if this stuff ever goes live, Urgot will officially become the most useless champion in this game.

Seriously, Muramana's current niche for AD casters is perfectly fine (and balanced imo). Why would they turn it into an ADC item (Riot stated themselves that these changes Corki/Ez/Sivir/Kog) when they cannot buy it anyways (what would they give up for that? Spellblade? Crit? Lifesteal? Last Whisper? Their only defensive item?). It would clearly nerf all Muramana users (Urgot, Yorick, Jayce...), the new active (60 true damage) being inferior to the current one unless you are OOM (in this case, how do you afford the 450 activation mana cost? 450!!!!) or you focus a high-armor tank without armor pen (while these champions already itemize a lot for armor pen). Plus, the active uses a weird charge system (you have to use an active 3 times to get full benefits), which is useless because you will spend all your time at 0 or 3 charges, the other levels being extremely cost-inefficient (lol, paying 150 mana for +10% AS and +8 on-hit damage, if you have so much mana to waste like that, why do you have a mana item?). Plus, it would completely remove the Muramana Ryze/Syndra builds (active no longer applied by magic damage spells).

Sure, the item would become pretty good on Irelia (but most likely not good enough to outshine TF/BotRK, so again, where is the point?) and Warwick (probably the only good thing the rework could bring).