Talk:Heimerdinger/@comment-93.142.191.41-20130128215804/@comment-5052127-20130130202304

I don't really have any complete top or support builds to show, it's pretty rare my team lets me go up there and with the item changes I haven't established favorite builds for those spots.

For mid, I like Unholy Grail, Deathcap, sorc shoes, Zhonya's, Void Staff, sixth item conditional on what's going on, but sometimes I will substitute RoA for Unholy Grail. For my runes for Heimer I actually use all flat MPen except Seals where I put mana/5/level (because of his low scaling and high base damages the mpen actually gives him more damage vs champs than AP would, even at level 1, and he really needs no help damaging minions), and for masteries I like 21/9/0.

When I am Top, guidelines I go by are when I am against physical, I just rush glacial shroud, then I go straight for a damage build, only finishing frozen heart late game if at all. Shroud has a very efficient combination of mana, armor, and cooldown reduction that really helps both his offense and defense against physical opponents and can let him quickly dominate in lane against them.

For support, I use support runes/masteries, and I tend to get about 2 support/gp10 items in lane, the armor/hp5 aura emblem is nice, and I think going for banner is a good idea, then as soon as our tower is down,  I start farming anything I can and just build up damage on the rest of my items.