Talk:Jarvan IV/@comment-142.58.186.176-20110303221211

Jarvan still deals a lot of damage without any damage items. His base damage and ratios are too high. Plus his passive deals 10% of your health in magic damage, his Q deals physical damage, reduces armor and has a 1.1 ratio, he can shield himself and do aoe slow, His E gives attack speed and armor while activating it deals magic damage, grants all of those bonus stats to allies and can be used to blink and stun, while his ult nukes thanks to the 1.5 ratio, not to mention the gayass cage. All those abilities aside, his tanky enough to be able to just dps your carries without any problems.

I don't know how you guys call him balanced. Yeah sure, i saw a couple of noob jarvs here and there but i also came across good ones who raped the shit out of everybody.

Xin is also a melee dps but he doesn't have his damage, ratios or utility.