Talk:Mikael's Crucible/@comment-4959312-20140604223503

Since they removed Philosopher's stone from the build-order for this item, it really really needs something to make it worth buying. An AP support can buy Athene's instead(if they are buying Chalice already) and be a semi-carry, it doesn't give stats a tank needs except the MR, and the active isn't comprehensive enough(because suppresses and blinds are the best things to be able to cleanse).

I can see it being used maybe by a support like Karma or someone else without a heal, but only over Athene's if a) the enemy team has a lot of the CC types it cleanses and b) if your laning partner knows they can count on you for that cleanse every time.

If I were riot, I'd add Kindlegem to it's recipe, set the cost at 2000 gp, and add 300HP and 10% CDR to it's stats. It would become a seriously effective alternative to Spirit-Visage for support-tanks like Leona or Braum and perhaps  convince people to play other champions in that role more often, like Galio, Blitzcrank, Alistar, Maokai, Rammus, Volibear...

What do you guys think?