Talk:Heimerdinger/@comment-93.142.191.41-20130128215804

read comments bellow and im surprised that most ppl think of him as "OP mid champion",he is very good as a top laner bc he is very good counter to ADs,bc of few reasons;zhonya and banner are 2 awesome items for him which provide armor and ap to him and the UNIQUE's from those items are insane for him so none ad cant hurt u on top,u shoud outfarm them bc of heimer's easy potential of farming and slowing opponent in farming,i personally played him in mid before but i woud often be only ap in team(do not count junglers like mumu,maokai... or supports like lux or nida...)and in late game even with void or high ap,he cant do such dmg as other apc like ziggs or great initiate like ori or grag,his turrets die in a second,zhonya becomes useless, u are not able to dmg 600+ with 1skill,and that is where ur team loses the game,in top,u already have an apc which makes makes opponents spent money on MR unlike when ur playing mid when they buy dmg instead,also he is very viable support bc he can take dragon without wasting the time of ur adc and apc, but u ll also need alot of GP10,banner and focus grenade shots instead of turret placement,but if ur playing 1800ELO or lower game u can go ap in mid game and outdmg your opponents,

i am sorry for bad english but i think u understand what i meant,btw just a little check to new heim update :

passive- heimer's huge problem is that rockets spend 145 mana on lvl5,and placing 2 turrets is also a high mana lost,but this new passive is gonna make it so easy for him to balance mana

Q- 3!!! so much strongger now,they will fire a skillshot 0,45 ap,and that number is higher then alot of skills in other apc

W-u can finally controll them when ur in teamfight and dont have time o go near and enemy so u hit him and not some1 else

E- only bad thing in rework is no more blinding,ut nade will still be awesome as hell in my opinion

R- now,i upgrade heims ulti on lvls 6,17,18 but after the upgrade i wont consider doing this bc of its new awesomeness

comment below if u think im wrong,i d really like to know if im mistaken,i play on NA and im currently 2157 elo