Talk:Leona/@comment-26359415-20150523190952/@comment-5955640-20150524192540

You were playing Vayne with Braum support against a Draven and Leona? Braum is at best a counter initator. His job is to block a grab and follow up by CC'ing the enemy. At best he can only start rushing Draven and putting up his wall and getting his stun stacks going. Which after level six would be effective.

The problem would be that you would have to win a trade. You can't out harass Draven as Vayne and with Leona he's looking to out damage you if she gets the stun off. So you'd have a long shot barring a successful trade or a good gank.

If someone ever picks Braum you should go with Twitch, Tristana, Quinn, or Caitlyn.

Twitch because Braum can actually rush someone and because Twitch is stealthed you can't do that counter initation tactic I talked about with most supports (my fix for this however was having Veigar support as his AOE would eat up Twitch's time or trap him from chasing).

Tristana because the second you can land the Q Tristana can E and Power up her AS steroid to stun you really quickily. Follow that up with a W and you can kill just about anyone that way.

Quinn because after level six and even sometimes before it Quinn can sort of rush you the second you get stacks of Braum's stun on you and post level six braum can rush you with shield up and ults you Quinn follows up in Valor form and just tears you apart with no recourse.

Caitlyn and Braum because the only person you could get away with killing is Braum as Braum will block harass and grabs from Caitlyn who will usually be too far away to hit without entering her range so she gains dominent harass and of course if Braum lands his Q or an auto Caitlyn puts in the least effort to get in range.

Being able to dodge that E with a tumble requires you aboslutely predicting when she's going to use it and tumbling a whole half second after she casts it.