Talk:Graves/@comment-99.72.10.112-20111031004850/@comment-3238314-20111101012345

You lost me because you forgot akali idoesn't need to keep her target around, because she has a triple instant cooldown dash, has 2 abilities that proc the full effect from rylai, so that's the 1st part of bullshit right there.

silence is 1 second, affected by tenacity.

Now, akali's damage per full burst is, considering that you proc every q, is somewhere around 300 x 3 + 250 x 3 + 2.6 AP, + 3 x AD + 3 x a% of your AD as additional magic damage + 130 + 0.6 ad for one E, + your AP again from lich bane. Consider that also your skills proc full spellvamp from both your passive and a gunblade, and that you get respectable tankyness from rylai, lich bane, zhonya, and abyssal, + sustain.

So you're saying that i lost you when you shove this aside, and ignore itemisation options for ad champs and ap champs, and how tanky items that offer great ap come in a bigger bundle than tanky ad? Let's also not forget that for the ammount of gold you'd get ~ 300 AD, you can get more than 700 AP? Also ignoring the fact that talon's damage is strictly physical, and hard countered by armor, whereas akali deals a mix of both, and is extremely hard to counter, especially when she starts snowballing? All this for dealing 520+1.8 ad IF you manage to hit the enemy with both waves?

Note that I'm not blaming akali for being op, she deals as much as she should. I'm just saying people in general don't know how to judge an assassin, and this isn't just me finding excuses, it's an acknowledged problem even within riot's balance team.

You think it's op that he has AoE and big burst that destroys someone on low health? Excuse me, but that's how assassins play out. They aren't carries. They don't do sustained damage and endure fire. They jump in at the best moment and utterly destroy a target. Do you happen to play kassadin? I can reach an almost better and safer burst with him using rabadon's and about 3 doran's. Q+E each take 40% or more of a squishy's life, and R can stack several times for huge burst, that is aoe, along with E. However, some people buy magic resist and it counters that.