Talk:Nocturne/@comment-4832742-20130310195825/@comment-220.255.1.159-20130312123615

He is also a relatively weak ganker pre 6, which Jarvan and Xin can do good at Lvl 2, also, at Lvl 6, your gank is only as successful as burning a flash, can't really kill unless its targeted on champs that have already been withered down, great initiation afterall with ultimate with regards to teamfights, but as mention, needs farm to do well, thats where he got outclassed