Talk:Udyr/@comment-75.72.55.220-20120621034415

Lately in the jungle I've been raising phoenix up to 3 for the clearing speed, but afterwards focusing on tiger, since I feel like is more helpful late game, and brings better ganks.

Early on, phoenix definitely jungles faster than tiger. But by the time I have 3 in phoenix, I'm strong enough that I don't feel like more levels in it clears the jungle that much faster, than alternating phoenix with tiger.

If I don't feel like I need tutrle maxed, later on I finish phoenix, and I've been building wit's end and wriggles both to try and take advantage of both skills. I feel like it works out, having general success, but I am a bit new to Udyr.

Any reasons why this might be a bad idea?