Talk:Swain/@comment-109.121.34.130-20120818004850/@comment-4929329-20120819191813

At least Renekton players don't really complain about their passive.

Just because Diana's passive is rediculously over-the-top doesn't mean that Swain's is useless. In fact, it plays a big role in the laning phase and makes farming a breeze.

It's not about how strong the passive is as a singular ability, it's about how it fits in with the rest of the kit that determines its power. Swain has mammoth abilities that have utility as well as dmg. Thus they cost a lot of mana. The passive helps counteract their cost. Imagine if Cassiopeia had Ryze passive. She'd hit you with poison and Twin Fang you to death instantly. Her ult wouldn't really have a CD, either. Or what if Yorick had Taric's passive? Sure, it'd be some sustain, but unnecessary sustain and would probably weaken the champion.

For instance, Renekton seems to be very low on health, so you attack him. He then stuns you and ults, Exhausts you, and activates Ghostblade. He will gain fury rediculously fast and he'll kill you. It looks like a useless passive until you notice what he can do with it. It lets him build AS as well as Crit so he can use any AD item except Manamune. To me, it's one of the better passives out there because it's not obvious why it's good.

In Swain's case, Carrion Renewal just allows his kit to be rediculous.