Talk:Garen/@comment-208.92.241.26-20121202045841/@comment-46.7.207.128-20121202181315

Unfortunately Darius' ult. The fact it has a refresh cooldown alone makes it better, as well as true damage, which scales brilliantly at all levels of play.

The only areas Garen's ult can remotely be compared is :

-It requires no stacks for max dmg.

-The cast time is quicker

-A very minor quip: It cannot spam KS.

-It feels a lot more awesome to cast succesfully :P

Otherwise Noxian Guillotine beats Demacian Justice outright. A quick fact however. Noxian Guillotine does comparable damage (at all levels) on 4 stacks to Demacian Justice (Counting MR). I.e, a Noxian Guillotine which has max dmg of 920, will hit for 736 on 4 stacks. Garen's ult will hit for roughly comparable damage on an opponent with less than 100 MR. Otherwise, yes, the Noxian filth has a superior ultimate.