Talk:Vayne/@comment-3985944-20110516191632/@comment-3165723-20110518135732

thank you asperon. took the words right out of my mouth. Nuthak, we get it, you are far better than we are, you are soo intelligent, but i have one thing to say. your reasoning for why vayne isn't OP is entirely flawed. From what i understand, your counters to her include 1. Not getting hit by her alot and 2. Focusing her in team fights. As to the first point, she is absolutely the best chaser in the game. Really, if she has the ability to kill you and you start running, you will not get away. Period. You won't. You will not. Her short CD attack boost steroid+placement ability will be tearing you down while you are trying to get away, and her %true damage will make you fall incredibly fast. If you decide that you are going to turn and fight her, she will knock you away with her E, then proceed to take even more shots at you with her AA, proccing the W and using Q whenever it's off CD. All this ruins any chance of escaping and/or turning and fight as a melee champion. and even if you were ranged, she puts out far more damage in 1v1 fights than any other ranged champ and more than most melee champs. as to point number 2, how in the bloody hell is that considered a counter? EVERY CHAMP IN THE GAME is countered by being focused in team fights, the Vayne is no different The thing that seperates vayne from every other champion in the game is NOT her survivability, ability to chase/escape, OR her 1v1 potential, it is the fact that she puts out FAR more damage than any other dps in the game and SUFFERS NO DRAWBACKS. Imagine if ashe did true damage with her melee attacks and had the same utility. That's vayne. Vayne is basically taking an average/balanced champ and buffing their damage to unreasonable levels. Your points are wrong.