Talk:Draven/@comment-24823977-20141014125603/@comment-24823977-20141017141918

if you cry about his new passisve its because you like your broken toys so plz go somewhere else and cry...yes his Passive isent that great but it makes comebacks and snowballing easyer thats all im saying and aso thats kinda the point of an adc...not die...farm get kills. and the reason he dosent have anything to buff him to get kills is because he dosent need it..he has amazing early damage(witch dosent fall off at all) a q that gives youi 45% ad boost at first rank and a speed passive that refreshes when you q and a minor CC plus slow and a global ult (imo it thats the only thing that feels kinda week on him unless the oppoent has almost no Hp i find its not that strong but considering everything else i can live with that)

also wtf? "He is a high skillcap champ in an "okay" position. If you can play him really really well your sustained damage is absolutly unmatched till the progressed midgame compared to other adc's. From then on though, range becomes the most influencing value there is, and Draven gets therefore outscaled by many Adc's."

ok kool he gets out ranged but with a small bit of feed hes a monster that can almost delete tanks with a couple of hits from your q.

like tbh the only way to make him fall off at all is to completly deny him kills early and mid game anything less and he can come back hard with just a few kills(most adcs get stoped early and GG for them but draven has full comback potential)  like i was fighting a MF bot(one of the few champs that match his early game damage) and she was crushing me early becasuse she out played me mid game i was able to get a few kills (not as much to macth MF)  but late game i 1 v 1ed her and without ults we killed eachother(she ignited me as well and i dident have barrier up) when considering she was more fed then i was even late game the fact that i sti was able to go toe to toe with her makes me see this champ as very  powerful

also i dont think he has a very high skill cap..hes easy to conter if you know how his kit works but as for hard to pay no..i suck at playing adcs and hes one of the few that i can do good with(vayne i cant pay for shit, i sucks as a shiva, and cait is a 50-50 in my hands, ez another 50-50 all depending how i land my skill shots)...like honstly hes one of the easyest adcs ive ever played