Talk:Katarina/@comment-24621775-20150526012829/@comment-9705522-20150527171043

The trick is the up and downtime thing, among others. You will get 1 proc, and after that you will only sporadically get procs (assuming the enemies are close enough to each others that Ludens itself will even hit them). Per 3 reset you might expect 2 new procs, and thats being generous.

Additionally, the thing here is that the order of items is quite hard to change. Because you will want to get Void Staff because the enemies will get MR. You will want to get defensive items, because the enemy will kill you too quickly otherwise. Which means by buying Ludens you will either delay Rabadons for too long, or any of the other item. Which is a major problem. Ludens Echos minor buff to early game (and its ability to be roughly as good mid game) doesnt make up for that. You really wont want to build it early.