Talk:Vayne/@comment-65.191.164.250-20120312002619/@comment-78.49.78.129-20120313134928

Vayne is still viable but there are champs that counter her easily like graves or urgot or cait who are just so much stronger early on the lane. Vayne needs a good support and u should focus on farming till ur jungler ganks cause vaynes tumble is nerfed and 8% true dmg vs a carry also isnt that great either. She is still great in mid and late game but only if she isnt shut down early on. So there are much easier (and maybe stronger) ad champs out there. Vayne could need a little buff to her ult: 25 ad at lvl 6 are pretty much nothing and when ur enemy is stronger than u there is no reason to chase him >.<. This 1 sec invibility are also not that great. I dont want her op again i like to play her alot but i feel that she is a bit weak compared to the other ad champs in the laning phase.