Talk:Kindred/@comment-16517370-20151017172902/@comment-27089623-20151018015444

So first of all Kindred has no Ap Scaling, like, at all. So that makes it at most a meh Item in the first place.

Continuing on, her passive is a Physical On-Hit effect that does not apply spell effects, aka it wont work with spell vamp. Her q does, however reduced by 1/3. Im not so sure on w, as the slow from rylais implies it functions as a pet, but it does apply spell effects. Lets give it the benefit of the doubt and say it does. e doesnt work at all, just as r, seeing its not dealing any dmg.

so even if we say w does, we get q with 180+20%ad (*3, but lifesteal only applies /3), 20% of that is 36+4%ad and w (if it works at all) equals to 9+8%ad

Conclusion: 3400gold for 40 ad and 10% lifesteal is very bad.