Talk:Riven/@comment-4834593-20140809070452/@comment-5878487-20140816011933

Riven can't out trade anyone early. it might look like their hp goes down more, but some of it will come back while hers just keeps going down each time, so she'll eventually lose unless she goes all-in. And if you go all-in too early and they survive, you lose the lane. As for getting both hydra and bt... that's just too many wasted stats since her main purpose late game is crushing squishies, which doesn't take that much ad(in case you didn't know, getting 700+ ad and 1-hitting tanks doesn't work anymore. 250-300 is plenty.) and involves very few basic attacks, if any. The extra sustain isn't enough to make you survive as long as if you buy a defensive item, like randuin or banshee. Even if you don't teamfight, it would only take 2 enemies to kill Riven before she could hit anyone if her only items were hydra and bt. So then you either join your team for a 5v5 and die instantly without doing anything useful, keep going back to your lane and get ganked and killed every time, or start farming the jungle to make your jungler be the one feeding or losing 4v5s. Doesn't sound like a very good plan, unless none of your enemies have half as much gold as you.