Talk:Maokai/@comment-8780096-20130806115414/@comment-5955640-20130807161837

If you are initating you should set it up shortly after both teams run in for a sustained fight. It does the most damage at that point. Otherwise I wouldn't worry too much about it. If you want it to do some sustained damage or have a higher utility use you could buy Liandry's Torment or Rylai's scepter and toggle the ult in teamfights.