Talk:Riven/@comment-26223806-20150319200518/@comment-5266525-20150326185917

I don't mean they're complained about now (even if they still are), only that they have had noticeable periods in the past where the only times people ever spoke up about them was to bitch about them.

It seems kind of self-explanatory to me. Reworks exist to take out unfun mechanics and/or unbalanceable kits (which leads into unfun gameplay for at least some portion of players) so logically if a champion IS bad enough for a not-insignificant player fraction to complain about, then they probably do have problems that demand a solution or minimization.

The forums aren't really a terrible place to look for general feedback if you look over a long period. A Nidelee rage thread having upvotes while a (say) Lux thread having downvotes is telling.