Talk:Jax/@comment-4490167-20111107034148/@comment-4490167-20111107062312

Unless the rest of his team has a lot of cc, I don't get merc treads; you shouldn't have to buy a tenacity item just to counter a single champion, that's ridiculous (unless it's alistar, but really, alistar doesn't have much else going for him, so that's acceptable). And if the rest of his team does have cc, then even if I buy merc treads, then i'm going to be stun locked for a lot longer than 0.65 seconds because of the other stuns/ccs/whatever.

He won't kill off all of the minions if he's positioned correctly (which isn't hard to do), especially since you can... I don't know, move around to different minions? And then every team is bound to have a carry, so if the minions don't proc his counter strike, your carry will. Don't tell me "Just buy a sword of the divine and it'll be k." because, again, having to buy an item simply to counter ONE champion is ridiculous. Carries have better items to be buying, items that are good against the whole team and aren't meant to counter a SINGLE champion.

Jax with the masteries will go 9/0/21, typical for an AP or hybrid character, so there's 9% cooldown reduction right there. And then (for good reason, I may add) people's teams let Jax have the blue buff, which, at level 18, grants 25% CDR. So although it's not maxed, that's a decent amount of CDR. I know what you're thinking, "shouldn't casters like Annie/Ryze/Veigar/etc. get blue buff?" Honestly, it does help, but casters usually itemize for max CDR anyway, getting items like Morello's (I'm seeing this item in almost every game these days) and Deathfire grasp (key item for veigar, I understand). So there's no need to give the blue buff to anyone else, as it's best used on Jax.

OP champions aren't fun in my opinion, I'd rather win in a fair game. I played Mordekaiser once (when he was OP) and then quit playing him because games aren't fun if it's just "auto-win because of a single champion." I play Mordekaiser now because he's balanced. I'm not going to take up your offer and play Jax anymore for that reason.