Talk:Riven/@comment-70.79.143.203-20111124163227/@comment-3165723-20111201102746

talon and panth can do this because they're in and out champions, they rarely stick around to autoattack, and renekton can because his ult gives him extra health and his Q can heal a nice amount. Riven is pretty auto attack based despite having a lot of really nice AD abilities, so she needs to be built tankier to survive. in 1v1 her building full damage could be a nightmare, but in team fights all it takes is an ap carry's ult or some focusing and she's dead. building her fratmogs with Youmuu's and a BT and CDR/Tenacity boots is your best bet most likely.