Talk:Shaco/@comment-4929329-20120703204711/@comment-4929329-20120704200939

Stealing Red requires more time, and they will be there before you take it, so it is a very risky play for honestly almost the same reward because Big Wraith gives good gold and exp. Yes, stealing buff would be nice, but Shaco is not THAT fast of a jungler and you need many boxes = time to counterjungle a buff before you get Madred's Razors.

Enemies can tell which one is real with a simple AoE spell, but since you ult right after something like W, it will not proc! That's how I stay sneaky.