Talk:Veigar/@comment-94.172.19.195-20111225000059/@comment-70.79.143.203-20111225015416

Get your jungler to gank often. Now you have mana to actually do something when your jungler ganks, instead of being useless and oom. Also, once your jungler gives you blue buff, you can freely harass with your stun into Dark Matter with no fear of retaliation from your opponent, since it outranges most abilites (except Xerath of course). But that depends on how good you're at aiming the stun, 1 missed stun could result you in getting bursted down by the enemy.