Talk:Vi/@comment-4636093-20130216014849/@comment-5.83.71.124-20130216121554

"AD Casters are people who shouldn't stand and auto attack, such as Talon who builds little defences, Urgot who isn't close enough to auto his target, Garen and Pantheon who's autos get dissabled while they're spinning/channeling, etc."

Talon and Garen, per example, have ONE of their abilities as an AA modifier, which implies autoattacking; Abilities that actually have the same mechanism as Vi's E. What is more, Riven and Renekton, the biggest examples of AD casters, rely on AA for their passives, yet nobody builds AS on them.

Same goes for Vi. At best you get AS reds for jungle so you can exploit W at lv1, but that's ALL. Any competent Vi, besides getting items that let her go tanky and offensive (TBC, FM...) should build CDR so she can use more often her combos (Q+AA+E+E/Q+AA+E+R+E, E+AA+E+Q/R+E+AA+E+Q...) instead of just facerolling and getting away.

"Bruisers are people who build tanky and auto attack for most of their damage, like Jax, Vi, Irelia, etc."

AD casters also get tanky. Riven's output is highly improved via standing longer in a fight, Renek needs defenses due W mechanism, Garen is the best example of a tanky caster... Not everybody is like Talon, who builds glass canon and acts like an AD version of an AP assassin. She's nothing at all like Jax or Irelia.

Never forget that "offtank" is a cattegory that envelops AD casters (Tanky casters/AD assassins) and bruisers (Pure bruisers/tanky DPSs), but AD casters and bruisers are not the same, just as Vi is not the same as Irelia, respectively.