Talk:Orianna/@comment-34037140-20180116092152/@comment-24971427-20180118115449

Okay, stop trying to tell me you can ult twice in a teamfight. It's highly unlikely, and you're still using the rank 3 ult as comparisons.

I'm not even saying cooldown reduction is bad, I'm saying its unlikely to get them so fast.

Anyway, I get Orianna is a mage with support like qualities and for the last time, stop telling me what her ult can fucking do, cause I literally mentioned it since the start of this fucking thread.

I'm just saying, I wish Orianna could do a bit more on her own, without needing an MF ulting by her side. (This is only an example, don't give me examples of what other champions can combo with Orianna)

Want examples? Ziggs, Zyra, Aurelion Sol.

I'm aware that Aurelion Sol has the same damage amount, but his has a lower cooldown, a knockback and a slow to accompany it.

Zyra has similar scalings, but higher base damage and makes better use out of it than Orianna can as it empowers her plants.

Ziggs has no utility with his ult, but it deals a ton more damage than Orianna can and it's AOE as well.