Talk:Graves/@comment-82.139.177.115-20111023163210

If MF is balanced carry and Graves isn't op so tell me why all his skills all much better than her? 240 aoe dmg vs 165 X2, 80% as + dash vs 50% + antyheal, awesome smoke cloud vs make it rain (blee), Ad dmg nuke ulti vs Ap dmg dps ulti. New ad ranged carries are too strong compared to old ones imo.