Talk:Fiora/@comment-10618458-20141201213144/@comment-9705522-20141215233719

Assuming that it hits everyone? Nope. But less talk, more math. So, Fioras ult is 385 + 0.9 per bonus AD. Master Yi is 165+ 1.0 per AD. Since Master Yis is per total AD, we can simply count his base AD as bonus scaling. So, we got 111+0.1*111= 122 bonus base damage. Total base damage is 165+122= 287 base damage. More than Fioras level 1 and 2 ult. Less than her level 3 ult. But now we also got the fact that his scales by 1.1 per bonus AD, compared to 0.9 per bonus AD. This gives usually something around 50 extra damage. So, we got 327 base damage, and 0.9 scaling versus 385 and 0.9 scaling. For an ult, the extra damage is, well, pitiful.

And yes, it doesnt apply Hydra. Guess what? Makes little difference. Hydra doesnt do a lot sadly. It gives you between 60% and 20% of your AD in extra aoe damage. The problem? The aoe isnt that large, so unless the team isnt clumped up, well, its not gonna do much. Getting a crit on Yis Q is simply better. More reliable.

Sidenote: forgot Yis Q only hits 4 targets. Which makes a decent difference, but still, too little.

Which requires enemies to clump up, not fan out, her to be insanely ahead (Judging by the numbers she would need crazy amounts of AD while simultaniously having the enemy team have no defense whats-o-ever.). And at the same time, well, In that very situation a few other ones can do it well. The best example is our pal Brand. Whose ult deals slightly less damage, but if combined with W already beats Fioras ult. And the best part? Its from afar and its faster.

Well, no. Her damage isnt very high. Yes, its higher than the other 2, but not because she deals more damage, but because the other 2 build tanky, and are effective as tanks. No, if you want to compare Fiora to others, compare her to melee carries. Oh, would you look at that. There is a good one to compare her to. Master Yi. Who is superior in every way. Has her ult on a short cooldown? Check. Consistant, long-time period damage compared to Fioras burst of speed? Check. Bonus true damage on-hit? Check. Extra attack every 4-3 attacks? Check. Ability to dodge abilities multiple times, and reduce damage by a lot? Check and check. Whoops, whats this? Yi is a better Fiora now? Who wouldve thought. More importantly, she wasnt even better than Yi before the nerf.