Talk:Ryze/@comment-4878039-20120508172607/@comment-80.15.143.26-20120517180654

a thing that works well is not using your CC ( i mean keeping it) and to poke with the rest and act as if you're loosing when low HP bait the oponent in your minions ( under turret is nice but  only pure idiots would follow ryze under turret early game) and snare/ignite them in the minions wave  people  underestimate minions

don't try this against fizz though his passive  protects him from minions and low hp he might just finish you with DoT W + ignite

this trick can help, don't count on it too much though

also i like to poke with his E ( use it on nearby minions) its pretty effective and you have no risk of poke back)