Talk:Manamune/@comment-70.190.1.94-20120329210033

Was posting in the Urgot comments and did some math on this item, decided I'd post it over here as well since it seems useful/relevant. Sorry if this was already posted;

The total cost to convert Tear to Manamune, Long Sword included, is 1115 gold.

Manamune provides 20 bonus AD independent of the conversion passive.

Based on the cost of BF Sword, 20 AD is worth 733 gold.

The combine cost remaining is 382 gold (1115 gold - 733 gold).

382 gold should buy 10.4 AD (based again on BF Sword costs).

That means that a champion would need barely over 500 total mana to make the AD gain from Manamune just as gold efficient as BF Sword, and every (mana using) champion in the game would have more than that even at level 1 with just the 350 bonus mana from the tear. This also isn't accounting for the new passive that allows auto attacks to stack the tear, which is worth some gold as well. In conlusion, it would be impossible to buy the Manamune before you have enough mana for it.

To add a little more math to that, the total cost of the item is 2110 gold. Based on BF Sword costs, that much gold spent on pure AD should net 57.5 AD. It would take only 1880 total mana for this item to slightly exceed that number (37.6 from conversion, plus the flat 20), meaning Manamune is providing enough AD at that point to be gold efficient even if the mana and regen gains are completely useless for you.