Talk:Veigar/@comment-5955817-20130525011240/@comment-7878249-20130606235148

Yeah, it's not good to be too passive. Wasting all your mana when you can't afford it early on just to get a few extra AP isn't really worth it. You get a bonus on champion kills, and junglers hate seeing enemies in your lane with full health as well.

Just play as if you don't have a bonus for farming and use Q for seige minions and minions you would otherwise miss. Later on, you'll have the mana and CD to farm like a boss while pushing, so there's not a huge difference.

You'll need to be harassing if you want to kill anyone as well. I doubt you'll 100-0 anyone so early as I find rank 1 ult very underwhelming.