Talk:Udyr/@comment-70.79.138.244-20120116071127/@comment-4641298-20120117065126

Phoneix pushes the lane too much, and you won't be able to DPS your lane opponent well enough.

If you are laning as Udyr, you probably will get Turtle maxed first.

Tiger has the higher single DPS target, Phoneix is just about as strong in AoE fights, however Tiger will give you the better damage most of the time. Pros with Phoneix is, you don't need to build damage to do it, while at the same time you can't really boost Phoneix's damage.