Talk:Heimerdinger/@comment-25010134-20140823131103/@comment-4636093-20140823133649

They had too many item reliant champions on their team. It was doomed right from the start.

Nunu's the only one who isn't entirely walled off by a low income, he should have been support and Trynd should have been jungle. A squishy melee bot is just asking for trouble. It could have been Gangplank or Zed and it would have done much better without messing up their theme. Riven mid is possible but a Jarvan or ChoGath would be better for it.

And of course... not facing a Heimer which dooms the theme in general.