Talk:Gragas/@comment-5478645-20140117205914/@comment-10943377-20140118140759

I don't play Gragas but I do keep an eye on pbe for mages. I was surprised to read the nerf to the ratio not because he is getting one but because I thought they had nerfed it ages ago back in season 2 when he was the "OP" fotm pick.

What I thought happened was on PBE they put through nerfs to his ult ratio and ult cooldown as well as reducing his E speed. I then found out they decided to only nerf his ult cooldown and nerf body slam, with out doing the damage nerf on the ult.

Any way nerfs to Gragas's ratios are a good thing.

BTW can you imagine season 2 Gragas when he had a 36s (assuming 40% cdr), 100%AP scaling, wide aoe ultimate. And when he could build very tanky with pre nerf 1000 unit range abyssal and ROA. Laning against that was a nightmare. I hated playing against S2 fotm Gragas and pre-pre-DFG Veigar.