Talk:Shen/@comment-24198515-20160921123951/@comment-26203093-20160924034537

"the pro guys do it" isn't an arugment. It's just a statement. It doesn't prove that it does or does not work; it just prove it's been used. Nor is it the least bit reassuring that you can't even argue your way to something that's worth considering. "The shield is still strong enough to use if they're right next to you." is at least an argument, even though I fundamentally disagree with the tradeoff of cooldown, teleport time, and lack of power 'til the later levels. But later isn't the laning phase, leter is when you could've been literally anywhere else, and later is when the ADC is at a level where he could be worth 2.5 shen, so yeah, the shield would be worth it.

When you say "pro play lmao" do you really expect me to go "you know what? you make a good point." I look at how it's played and used at higher level. Not whether or not it's ever been used - but go on. Find me shen support's win ratio at tournaments. And PRE rework, he had harass. He was ridiculously cheesy, and that tiny heal on his Q made objectives ridiculously easy - where you could go for baron 3 levels before normal. But I do believe we're in 2016. And nobody mentioned old shen 'til you decided to rearrange the argument to fit your opinion.

There was a time people went nunu + kog'maw bot in proplay, and I thought then and still think now that nunu's shit. He's currently getting changes in every patch, even if none have gone through, yet.

The argument is trite and forgoing my preference for terseness, and pardon playing the didact, but indignation is a terrible replacement for introspection. #triggered.