Talk:Riven/@comment-4834593-20170302185036/@comment-31203455-20170321103236

Dying, alone, in an attempt to delay the enemy team getting any Drake at all, is a bit of a daft endeavour.

You then leave your team 1 man down in the subsequent fight that could possibly have seen you punish the enemy for taking that Drake.

Oh, and I'm sorry, but I was trying to be nice and not go for the "pompous twat" stereotype being the reason for Riven-hate. Of course the "NO. WRONG." in all caps dropped my spirits and then you proceed to essentially say "everyone else is a twat but not me".

Riven is one of those champions that has so much going for her but just that bit of required skill to get it all going (alongside a massive amount of room for masterful plays). So there should be no surprise that she carries a bit of expectation with her.

She should be good because she has the tools.

She should be good because to cope with her at all requires a tiny bit more skill than average.

She should be good because that tiny bit of required skill plus the large amount of potential mastery assumes that those who play her want to be good.

She should be good because of the massive amount of ego that emanates from the Riven Champion Mainer-base.