Talk:Garen/@comment-24496127-20150826204728/@comment-24496127-20150907080524

Maxing it second just allows for much better tanking come mid game then it would otherwise. I don't think I've ever actually maxed it first, but I just really don't care for the e's damage. I'd say in any situation where you're going to be taking a lot of sustained damage, especially from kiters, W second, at least, is better.

What you get is duration for putting points in it, and in a teamfight, living long enough to do your damage is more important than just having a ton of damage as someone like Garen, and your villain passive along with bc allows for you to kill at least one person anyway.

It's weird, I know, but I've had success with it.