Talk:Veigar/@comment-86.147.197.165-20120123003900/@comment-92.90.17.1-20120125223958

Okay... So let's try to explain you. Try to play jungler like nocturne, and try to gank a lane with your mate being a mordekaiser by exemple. You'll never reach their mid.

Other exemple : Try do gank a lane with a Soraka healer sololane (absurd i admit), do you think you'll get the kill? No.

With a Veigar, you have a good synergy with jungler gank. And so Yes, receving gank is a whole part of Veigar system, because you're weaker, with a really dangerous come back potent mid game, so the enemy with overpush and be aggressive, because you have a stun, and because you have burst. All in all, you're making the gank easy, SO as a part of a team you counter the enemy AP by making him more sensible to gank early, and by stomping on him on the rest of the game . The same way that ganking is was a whole part of Evelyne system.

So please, try to get out of your little "lane" system that is only a way to balance the farm between each character, and think as a team. You'll get better result this way.