Talk:Pantheon/@comment-87.172.197.115-20120619080448/@comment-87.172.197.115-20120619141900

How I love those L2P comments, I am not new to LoL, I play many Champs and I guess after many Games I can at least say I am above average.

It Helps in Trades if the Enemy relies on AA or On-Hit Abilitys, i.E. vs Urgots Q his Innate does nothing. Wow, he has a hard CC... his W is just a Gap Closer with a short stun, compare it to other utility-only Skills on Cast-Champs and you see how bad it is.

100% Crit rate @ <15% life means <600HP on a 4k HP Champ if you target their Tank/Sion, whats definetly NOT the job of an assasin. Usually your targets should be squishy carrys/mages with 2-3kHP means <300-<450HP even if they manage to have exactly 15%HP left and from a dmg champ I expect this damage to be done (after calc) even without some pseudo-finisher.

His AoE Burst does 0 vs anything with armor, and a smart not-stunned (note: you can only stun 1 target) enemy wouldnt stay in there, making it even more useless.

So I should look for Utility (a Gapcloser, a 1s Stun and a 120s cd 5500range travel) ON A ASSASSIN, while even ranged AD Carrys get stun, dash, slow, snare etc? Not to mention permaslowing bruisers with pull, slow, dot and movespeed buff.

What is the sense of a squishy Champ (he is and even if I repeat myself: your innate wont make up for the lack of mobility, defensive and HP, as their AD carry usually wont even focus you) that does on a full-offensive build about the same damage than a off-tank/tank?

Fact is you cant play him full-offensive as your combo altough 600 range (lol) brings you in the face of your enemy and at the point you have a true chance of surviving a teamfight vs an equal team, you're already a offtank but without damage, as most of them scale with AD not bonus AD or have way better ratios/base dmg.

If you run around poking with your q, staying in a (for you) safe distance on a build that would theoretically allow you to deal some noticable damage, you could as well play a mage with the difference that he could deal 2-4 times as much damage (and MR is harder to get than armor), use CC and build (again lol about the stupid guy with his shield) even more tanky with zhonyas/rylais/RoA...