Talk:Shaco/@comment-26571276-20150730062730/@comment-25368309-20150824011829

@BIA-Kaboose This Guy gets it right like always, showing that not everybody in this community has absolutly no plan of Shaco. The lack of Disengage in late was always something that bothered me, wanna see something in the rework for that, and not just buffs for his early and midgame escaping potential.

@C4bal Of course you hate having Shaco on your Team, everybody that doesn't play Shaco does for some reason. But he has a point, there are junglers that are more reliable on doing the exact same thing as Shaco while also coming with great Teamfighting presence or Mid Game Powerspikes, but i thought more of something like Rengar than Vi, since Vi cant use her CC to escape something and her earlygame ganking potential is a bit weaker than Shacos since she has no stealth.

I heavily disagree with you on the "Usefullness" Part though. The only reason the Champion known as Shaco is even pickable after his nerfs without compensation, his unviability which shows up every second season and the permanent hate of both the Player Community and Designer Community is because of his Utility. Champs like Kha'Zix or of course Shaco never actually disappear entirely from the pickability, if thats a term, because of the diversity of possible usage in their ability kits. For instance, Shaco sets up Wards, gets instant stealth on one of his basic abilities and has the only pet in the game that uses aoe hard CC. Vi, Rengar or Lee SIn can't do that. On the downside, these Champions pretty much do the Things Shaco normally does so much better that Shaco never actually gets appretiated for his special abilities. There are Champs that can do the Stuff Shaco does more reliably while also offering other raw Combat Stats like Shielding, Heals and ridiculous on-hit buffs. You pretty much play Shaco because of his Design and for the honor of beeing a Shaco Main which is pretty much non-existant right now to anyone who doesnt get the concept of the Champ because of the "Shaco-Effect" and his 'super frustrating to play against' status. imo, as a Shaco Main I can confirm that he really isn't strong right now and there is no reason in buffing him in any way because that will just cause a delay in the inevitable rework and another Reddit-Shitstorm lead by League of Lee Sin Mains.

At least Shaco does not have Mechanics as much Cancer as Zed, LB or Lee, as BIA-Kaboose already said. But this godforsakenness Community appearently has nothing against these zero-risk playstyles of Assassins and will keep losing their Shit over a 150-Hp 0.5 second Fear Jack in the Box denying a Riven Main their 5th kill on the lagging Sona Support with 0/8.