Talk:Lissandra/@comment-9008617-20130503213021/@comment-9008617-20130504232833

How exactly are Annie's and Kennen better at AoE CC? Liss has 4 sec skillshot slow, AoE snare/root, and AoE slow invulnerability/stun... and she can flash every 7-12 seconds.

Annie has needs 4 spell casts and time when she does her 5th spell for the stun passive.

Kennen only stuns for 1 second and requires him to repeatedly land skills on the same target within 8 seconds of each other of which QSS can remove.

Liss gets CC on demand. On. De. Mand.

In reference to the skillshot vs targetable skill, I was referring to the stun from her ult (because ice shard doesn't stun) which is a targetable skill.

Why you even compare her to a suicide bomber is beyond me. Do you play Liss? Is that how you play? Flash in and just spam everything? In any case, not many suicide bombers have an ult that make them intangible... Not to mention, her skills actually have decent range and if they aren't giving her a slow, root/snare, invulnerability/stun + aoe slow then it's giving her amazing mobility with the claw flash. Her passive works a lot like Ezreal's passive whereby landing any CC from her skill lowers her passive.

No one's saying it's too long, we're saying it's more than balanced. You and a handful of Liss players who think she should be able to carry the entire game are the ones complaining that her Q needs to be buffed. There are plenty of people complaining about her OPness. But I prefer actually discussing valid points rather than drawing useless trivial information that's irrelevant to the topic. Be to each their own.