Talk:Ardent Censer/@comment-5593561-20140607111358/@comment-5955640-20140608220514

Heimerdinger's Turret is supposed to be a pet first and a ward as a bonus. Nidalee's ward is certainly supposed to be placed in bushes or choke lanes so the person has to step on it and get revealed by it. The rework could change it's use completely as you'll want to use it more offensively than anything else.

I play Karma a lot. And I have a really reliable way of holding the laning phase and I don't even go full damage either I have a tankier Karma than most would want. What usually gets me pushed out of lane. Actually it's a very specific combination but it gets me everytime so you can look at the variables to figure out why it was effective.

Jinx and Nidalee, Soraka and Miss Fortune. I lose my lanes to those exact combinations every time with a the last being Caitlyn and Nami.

The lack of counterplay from poke supports is really just trying to hold out and getting items to ruin their engage or counter attack on them. As a marksman when I see a Annie or so forth in lane it's best to get a cleanse and as a support I try to rush Mikeal's Crucible. I'm perfectly fine with this although it is stressful.

Back in Season three I used to get Clairvoyance because Annie and Fiddle supports would hide in the bush and ult without you ever knowing they were there. That prevented a lot of kill lane tricks due to no one having to face check a bush or needing to use a ward just to see (and back then pinks were easy enough to buy and dominate a lane with) if they were there.

Tanks have few options but they had less last season (Well. There was Runic Shield. I miss you Runic Bulwark). The Relic and it's evolutions are really good. The choices in armor have flucuated a lot due to the constantly shifting usage of the Locket so a lot of the time I just get a Seekers and a Glacial Shroud(Ohmwrecker will occasionally present itself for usefulness in buying armor. But not very often). For sustain as a tanky support because you end up having to do that a lot in poke comps which are popular right now I would get the Mikeal's and try to get Targon's Brace and maybe get the heal spell which is fairly okay these days. Although I don't buy Mikeal's for this for obvious reasons. I find Shen support as a tanky sustain support to be pretty reliable in a poke comp.

As long as they know to shoot daggered target you can just farm health back until a opening presents itself. Shen's energy state makes him tireless and with the teleport summoner spell you never leave the lane for long.