Talk:Udyr/@comment-9013810-20130620200825/@comment-5529780-20130624181318

I have been working on Tiger stance jungling and here's what i have seen, your early pre-6 ganks are extremely more powerful than phoenix but you clearing power is far weaker cause  of non AoE dmg also you consume more mana as you need to activate tiger alot to clear faster

mid/late game if you are going tiger never go a full tank if the enemy team doesn't have a hard CC or devistating AoE dmg like karthus or a fed Lux or smth similar

rush ancient golem then Botrk your dueling potential is beyond amazing vs anyone fed or not the rest is situational if you wanna go full insane dmg kinda tanky with sticking power that's the build with nukes every single wacky mid or solo top

Spirit of the Ancient Golem, BoTRK , Ninja Tabi , Ravenous Hydra , Iceborn Gauntlet , GA/Randuin/Warmog's/Frozen heart

the build above is extremely potent in 1 v 1 you can lock into any enemy who's outta position and trust me they won't dare to 1 v 1 you cuz u r tanky enough and have enough dmg to make em QQ in fear

this build focuses alot on armor if you are against some serious AP i guess grab a wit's end, abyssal sceptre or spirit visage

some might think this build is kinda costy or not good enough for a team but trust me it always depends on your teammates so if you have a good reliable team go full tank all the way n farm your jungle non stop keep the ganks up and so on HOWEVER if your team are sissys and acting noobish go tanky-dps and with some little help you can and WILL CARRY the game hard