Talk:VPBE/@comment-24474109-20150410111026/@comment-1330314-20150412051056

I feel like that's an issue that goes beyond Ryze. Mana itemization in general isn't very good, and Ryze's mana scalings seem to make it more of a problem than a genuinely interesting choice. Free CDR might make items other than more attractive by comparison, but I don't think that's really the right way to do it: I'd rather have a valid choice between two items that both look like they'd have awesome synergy with my champion, rather than a choice between an okay-looking item and an item that would be a must-buy if its purchase weren't somewhat wasteful. Going back to Azir, is an awesome item because it has a ton of awesome synergy with his kit, but is also in valid competition with  and, both of which give him practically bottomless mana sustain along with other goodies.

The conversion you propose looks pretty good, though it also treads on super-mathy territory in the same vein as 's scrapped Touch of the Cosmos passive (where 20% of her resistances were converted to AP). I wonder what would happen if Ryze just gained a stat based on his CDR (e.g. mana, as you mentioned, or mana regen or even movement speed).