Talk:Karma/@comment-29954542-20161110135848/@comment-4118289-20161206204209

The only other healing item available to Karma is Athene's, which is inferior to Redemption + Mikael's.

The only comparable active to Redemption is Locket, and some games you'll get both, just because Redemption and similar items boost the Locket shield.

For damage, there is no longer any reason to have any on supports that aren't geared towards building damage (Brand, Zyra, Vel'koz). The tank meta has come so far that the only (reliable) ADC's are hypercarries and supports are mostly building tanky items, so your abilities are there only to reduce the cooldown of your ultimate and provide their secondary effects, rather than damaging the enemy.

On the offchance that you want to go the damage route, you go with a completely different build, ignoring the Windspeaker's route in the process.