Talk:Jarvan IV/@comment-128.153.216.166-20130221061319/@comment-24.69.116.54-20130222063445

And I'm just saying J4 is weak to any champion with sustain and beefy enough to survive his burst so he isn't the best choice. But if you just love J4 then I suggest you take advantage of his numerous build options and build to counter whomever you are against. Take wardens mail and ninja tabi against autoattackers, early hexdrinker versus mages, and 13 healthpots versus sustain champs. Shield is useless in lane for the most part, being a mana hog.

Max Q first and stab them in the face from behind minions. I would strongly suggest a Flask and possible a mana regen item if you are against a champ that cannot engage on you, just so you can dish out the pain. Since it is 1v1 take advantage of your strong lane pushing and  keep their minion numbers down. If a strong laner engages you, the minions should tip the balance.

If you are up against a strong push/sustainer. Like Mordekaiser, your only option is to go hard all in. Do so when their shield is down, or in the case of rumble and garen, when their abilities are on cooldown.

AP trynd actually does decently in lane if you start with AP quints and AP glyphs, which gives him enough healing until Nashors, but that's beside the point.