Talk:Orianna/@comment-71.168.254.94-20121110183730/@comment-86.213.217.93-20121114002216

man when you play like 10 games and you outfarm every single mid by 100+ cs and end up with scores between 10 and 20 kills and 0 and 4 death every single game the champ is somehow a bit OP

i use riven really well and stomp often but i lose lanes sometimes when ganked hard  or stuff with orianna ... you don't get ganked, orianna ganks you, thte jungler comes and you jsut Q +W +R +Q their face and get a double ( i exaggerate ofc but really she feels just too stronk )