Talk:Katarina/@comment-5920585-20130909235731/@comment-5057599-20130910141257

^ Yeah, of course it's a buff with a full channel Death Lotus. And the enemy team would also need buffs to stop being potatoes if you're pulling those off.

No, I'm not doing anything wrong. Any common team will have at least 5 different abilities which can stop a Katarina ult. Supports alone usually pack 2 of them. Even exhaust shuts down a big portion of the damage. And one person will ALWAYS save one of their interrupts for when Kat dives the ult. But then again people have brains at my elo, so that may be the issue.

Of course she can clean up and w/e, but it's mostly thanks to her basic abilities and her teammates effort in getting her the first kill. The ultimate doesn't really play a role once she gets the first reset because it comes down to 'button mashing' after that (Scarra dixit). So in that sense Kat is still EXACTLY THE SAME after these changes, bar the weaker ult at the first two levels. Which brings me back to your opening post. Why would Kat become FotM if she's weaker overall? Right.