Talk:Veigar/@comment-7992038-20140522041237/@comment-8185594-20140614021406

I usually run 21-6-3 with 3 points into mana regen to deal with the mana issues. I've found that you don't need chalice unless you really want mikael's crucible (personally I don't think Veigar should get it until much later in the game if at all).