Talk:Jhin/@comment-25075290-20180417051323

The popular and most successful skill order includes not opening until level 8, sometimes even until level 13. That's for solo queue. I, for one, think that if you're in a premade team with a reliable support that has hard non-displacing CC (thinking about or, but even blockable skillshots like  would be ok), it would be ok to get it as soon as level 3. If they step on your E your support will have a much easier time landing their CC because of the slow, and the CC will make sure your E deals its (definitely noticeable) damage.

Any thoughts?