Talk:Graves/@comment-5955640-20151112064643/@comment-5955640-20151113011301

Had a Graves Top for an ally while playing against a Graves jungle. Our Graves was good in laning phase but just like the earlier one he became useless post laninig phase and the enemy Graves jungle was. Absolutely bananas. Holy shit did he rip us a new one. He managed to beat our Trundle by a mile. Granted. Our Trundle was stupid and didn't go tank despite our team having 3 marksmen and him being TRUNDLE.

So it's hard to say. If I get another really strong Graves jungle and a really weak post laning phase lane Graves i'll get my data sorted.