Talk:Garen/@comment-4304118-20120822010726/@comment-213.114.5.245-20120824164828

Atmas is a shit item. It wasn't even good before the nerf. It gives you a terrible early game for a mediocre late game. The whole warmogs atmas thing was only working because warmogs at the time was OP and the professional teams at the time didn't play their early games as agressive as they do now. Sure, Wander around in your lane with a fucking warmogs while me and my team takes all your buffs and dragons because your early game presence is utter shit. Atmas was only good if you needed the armor to lane but still wanted to do damage when you came out of it. One dps item combined with a frozen hearth or randuins has always been the best choice. I remember when players used to build warmogs first on GP top lane, In professional play. Such a joke.

Gold efficency is not what matters in this case. You need a big health item in order to make atmas worth it's gold and if you build a big health item first then your early game is shit. If you build atmas first then it's also shit because then it doesn't do anything. This whole thing is the reason teams such as m5 were able to roll people that didn't focus on their ealy game.