Talk:Zilean/@comment-12314620-20140724135849/@comment-12314620-20140724190031

prenerf Lulu couldn't compare to damage output of powerful AoE mages nor assassins and still became a highly banned pick even in soloq. The midgame damage Zilean offers isn't something to laugh at. With Chalice+Tear build your map presence is ridiculous and every melee cries blood if they are forced into your slow spam, combined with the fact that you simply cannot escape him.

Ulti also doesn't require that much team coordination as long as your team isn't blindly diving extremely deep into enemy team since it's not really difficult to estimate when someone is going down and simply ult them. Even if the opposing team stops focusing them you still save a teammate.

Finally I don't have a lot experience of midlane Zilean but from a few games I have tried him I can say that he has worked well in nonorganized blind pick compositions with plat/diamond level players (I know, it's still normals) without me ever getting a feeling that I'm not doing as much as if I had picked for example Orianna, and the ridiculous midgame map presence is a big factor over here (also roaming is ridiculously effective in soloq and becomes less effective the higher you climb).