Talk:Veigar/@comment-110.55.196.166-20120524115018/@comment-92.254.64.128-20120528011834

I now always take teleport and flash but I used to get flash, ignite. They're both good I just like to be able to get farm anywhere on the map. If you want to try an agressive early/mid game (not the best I'd say) take ignite.

I get boots and pots first because mid usually requires you to dodge skill shots. Sometimes I get 1 mana pot, but that depends on the enemies. Then I get kage's lucky pick, mpen boots, void staff, deathfire grasp, athene's unholy grail, rabadon's deathcap. If the game isn't over by then take rylai's or lych bane. When you have void staff you might choose to get boots of swiftness instead of sorcerer's shoes. Honestly zhonya's hourglass isn't in here because I never know when to use it, so it's practically worthless to me.

I use mana regen seals so I can spam my q (you still won't really be able to spam it, but at least it benefits your passive). I get cooldown reduction per level glyphs, magic pen marks. And some random quints (I only have lifesteal and movement speed quints, poor me).

Masteries: 9/21/0 There is no need for 21/9/0 because you will be bursting them through the 40% health mark. 5% extra ap might be good, but i usually prefer 10% less cc, it's helped me escape many a time.

My general rule is farm, farm, farm (don't push). Then push, recall, teleport if available and start over. So far the best stats I had using all this is 19/2/18.

warning: this has not been very effective against: leblanc, kennen, lux

but if they make the mistake of leaving the lane you will destroy them eventually