Talk:Lucian/@comment-8588654-20131015053729/@comment-7460908-20131020190906

That's a hell of a hypothetical situation there. Vayne would rarely ever lose a duel to a Lucian, and even if she did, she probably be under circumstances where she would know to save her abilities to either Condemn him out of it and/or Tumble out of its angle.

Also, people rely on Lucian's abilities because those are all he has as a Marksman. The closest thing he has to a steroid is the double shot from his passive, which- surprise, surprise- he needs his abilities in order to utilize.