Talk:Riven/@comment-4834593-20140615093919/@comment-25088141-20140621072532

This would make Riven way too weak. Imagine riven vs any other top champ both hitting lvl 6. Her ult won't help her in the fight at all. Increased range on q w and e does nothing in duels. E breaking snare/cc can be decent, but not in duels toplane and only works against very niche champs. The ult should also be availabe starting from lvl 1, but even then it's still too weak. Unless you change Riven's other spells, she is a nuke/combo champ and removing a core spell of her combo for some paltry gain in damage and range really isn't worth it. She is weak enough as it is and trying to force her go from a combo role to a more sustained role just isn't viable unless her other spells are also redesigned. Stuff like 2.5% armor pen and the increase in damage are pretty much negligible, compared to the huge burst of her current ult. With most riven builds that get max cdr, the w would translate to a 1.8 sec off cd if you hit >3 champs, which is very low reward. Also this forces Riven to constantly spam spells in lane, just for the sake of building Ki. Right now the idea of Ki is low risk, and very low reward and as such, any top laner that hits 6 will just jump on Riven and Riven is forced to back off. This idea might work if you make it more risk more reward, such as making Ki harder to generate, such as only generating when u actually hit stuff and doubling it on champs. By making it harder to get, you can then increase the ulti power so that it actually does something.