Talk:Udyr/@comment-5489694-20130502192228/@comment-5489694-20130503012146

I don't think it really affects lane Udyr really. Whenever I lane him and I activate Tiger my opponent usually sits back until the DoT is gone, so Tiger + Bear was never something I've been able to use when laning Udyr. It does sort of hurt his ganks but it's nothing major because switching back to Tiger when you stun your opponent (refreshing the DoT) and autoing them 3-5 times while they're stunned does way more damage than if you let the 1st DoT time out during the stun.

It seems like a big deal because it was little trick most Udyr players had, it was like a signature move, but I don't think it's game breaking. I always ended up refreshing the DoT after ~100 something damage anyways.

I think the change so that it never times out until you hit something is going to be insane for zoning people in lane.