Talk:Vayne/@comment-25122281-20150911072205/@comment-25122281-20150912111119

"You have a 725 range Q which is still longer than Vayne's AA range."

Remember that ability ranges calcuate differently than AA range. You have to subtract about 125 from the ability range to compare, which means Lissandra's Q has only 50 more range. Which, considering its cast time and Vayne's movement speed advantage, means absolutely nothing. Not to mention it's a skillshot, and Vayne specializes at dodging those.

"If you die at level one"

I didn't die, but I had to recall.

"then you've done something horrible wrong"

Then tell me what it was, instead of being a wiseass. Imagine such situation: You come to your lane, start csing and Vayne straight up allins you - she just right-clicks you and doesn't stop. What do you do? Hit her with Q? It has 6s cooldown, she will land like 5autoattacks during that time, and they deal more damage anyway. Your autos do much less damage as well. Even minions don't help much.

"Your 725 line skillshot, that extends to 825 and breaks into a 3 point AOE when you smack a minion wave"

Well, guess what, that happens when she's behind her minions, I can't do that when she's chasing me.

"Against an ADC like Vayne even a lvl 1 Q will still hit like a truck"

Please take that 10s to check (you're already on wikia after all, just type "Lissandra" in the sarch) before you talk like you know anything. Her level 1 Q deals about 90 damage on 6s cooldown (and, like I said, it can be dodged, especially with Vayne's Q). Vayne's single autoattack deals only slightly less, and she can spam them every second.

"If she brought a Doren's, Vayne will only have one pot which means that you can outsustain her."

One, she deals more damage. Two, did you know Doran's Blade has life steal? I have 2 pots, she has one + heals around 2.5 hp every attack, while taking significantly more of my health during the fight. There's no way to outsustain her.

"And another mistake you made was to leave your minion wave"

Except I didn't

"or tried to run away (big mistake, since Vayne is one of the best chasing ADC's in the game)"

Ok, next time I'll just let her kill me. Thanks for the tip.

I'm not saying I did everything right. I probably fucked up. But she took me by surprise and I have absolutely no idea where I went wrong. I was standing in a minion wave and thought, "well if she want's to all in me and drag that minion aggro, that's fine by me". 5 seconds later I was running away for life while she was barely harmed.