Talk:Ryze/@comment-124.148.199.163-20120901110159/@comment-92.225.177.112-20120902191009

I don't think abyssal is a bad item on ryze, even with the range nerf you usually want to stick to your target anyways to get the e bounces as strong as possible (that means staying below 400 range).

you should also keep in mind how magic penetration and reduction stacks; it makes void staff kinda terrible esp. when combining it with flat penetration from runes and sorc boots (you can buy it as last item replacing all your flat penetration tho - except runes ofc).

i personally replaced abyssal with haunting guise on most ap mids - unless the situation really calls for it as in a ally can use the aura and there's annoying magic damage in the enemy team.

i really dislike banshee's on ryze esp. because the spell shield can be alot more useless than you'd think (getting it proc'd from poke prior to initiation or some ppl adjusting spell rotations etc.) - it can be pretty nice in a 1vs1 but in a teamfight it's effectiveness is heavily reduced (unless the enemy team is going full retard)...