Thread:Yustus/@comment-24709595-20160925225152/@comment-28977071-20160926171728

Sure, sorry for the late response.


 * The first broadening of the definition was intentional, because of the link on very top of the article: Main article: Pets The both articles were linked together for a very long time and both champs you mentioned were listed as having pets in there. I didn't add any new data, it was all already present on the wiki and I was aware of that inconsistency for quite a while but I just accepted it. However, yesterday Tylobic removed Category: Sight champion as the champions were actually granting that persistent kind of sight by using pet units. That validated 's presence among pet champs. After I'd seen that step towards the unification of both linked articles, I simply completed the merge. From the three pet conditions the first two detect game-impacting pets, only the last one detects the "cosmetic" pets. I agree that it sounded weird to me too to add, but I only created the clear definition of pet and then watched what it'll produce. She's been listed in the twin article long ago after all. Regarding , I believe that her presence in the category is just as rightful as that of , both use the bird pet for their abilities. You cannot put the champions into the category because of the feeling. Hence I defined the sharper definition first and then some champs naturally fell in. Again, yes, having in feels a bit counterintuitive for me too, but then you'd have to remove  as well and that'd make Tylobic's deletion of Sight champs unfounded because they'd no more be a subgroup of Pet champs.


 * Yes, the support category is only a fst sketch from yesterday. I intended to distinguish support position and controller attribute, so I could apply the new Controller role on champion wiki pages. However, while the attributes are clearly defined on champions, viable positions can be quite subjective. We don't have the category pages for the rest of the positions on wiki either (jungler, bot, mid, top), imo for exactly that reason: subjectivity. I simply temporarily put such champions into the support category that I considered to be viable, because I don't have rights to delete pages. I was thinking about deletion of that category a lot as well, because, firstly, currently it is the only category by position, and secondly, the subjectivity. If we won' delete it, how to objectively determine, who is allowed to belong in here?