Talk:Elise/@comment-5686533-20130917164417/@comment-15244341-20130923095508

Play splitpushers. Most low elo people have absolutely no clue on how to deal with them. I've lost far too many games in which I'm a tank and therefore can't duel Yi, so he simply pushed another lane while his team derped around midlane and if someone went to 1v1 him, they died, while if two or more people went, his team engaged and won a TF while Yi simply ran away with his ult. Also, good luck tower racing a fed Yi (which is actually the most common thing ever).

I play Swain also. Most low elo people don't have a clue on how to play against him since he is such an uncommon pick (they won't ignote you at the right moment so that you don't heal while invincible on Zhonya's stasis or buy Morellonomicon over Athene's), he is hard to peel from a target since he is so tanky for an AP, deals a ton of damage and has amazing 2v1 potential with the right items. Hoever he has a steep learning curve, since he has unforgiving mana costs and his ult has Kassadin levels of mana bleed in it. And you also need mid. He does counter most top laners but he gets no blue in top, so pick him top at your own peril.

Also, Elise. She is still a perfectly fine top laner and jungler. You just need to play her a bit more carefully since she is a bit worse at tower diving now.