Talk:Vel'Koz/@comment-2242191-20160506082031/@comment-2242191-20160507180824

I'm with MakoShiruba on this one, personally. Sure, in the transition, W lost 22.5% AP ratio, and E lost another 20%. It sucks, but if you land all 3 hits on those two spells (his primary ult setup combo) then you're rewarded with 40% AP true damage, plus change, from his passive.

Pre-6.9, let's say you land your full QWER combo at level 18 on an AFK support, setting off his passive about 4 times. This totals to about: 1625 + 232.5% AP magic damage, and 820 true damage. Post-6.9, let's say you do the same thing, except his passive procs only once. This totals to about:''' 705 + 130% AP magic damage, and 1119 + 140% AP true damage. '''Building something like 500 AP on him now nets around 1800 true damage (Vel's own base max health pool) on his passive and ult.

I agree that going Magic Pen on him pre-6.9 was kind of neat and all, but I personally never felt there was enough Magic Pen in the game to make it feel worthwhile on him. If you don't like how he feels anymore, then that's fine, but as far as numbers are concerned this has been a straight buff.