Talk:Sejuani/@comment-96.51.148.31-20130123072256/@comment-69.141.8.150-20130126221010

"Ghost out of Red Buff + Passive Slow + Permafrost + CC present in the lane? Man, they must have something like 600 base movespeed."

And you're a Sejuani fan too??? Fantastic!

Pre-6 Sejuani relies on her dash, red buff, and permafrost for ganks. Her passive doesn't really help out all that much once you take MS debuff DR into effect after picking up red buff, plus 10% ms debuff alone is negligible.

"+ CC present in the lane?"

If we take this into account, then Shyvana's an awesome ganker as long as her lane does it for her too.