Talk:Jax/@comment-4046013-20120112085354

So... he's losing about 1000 health and 50 MR late game. To make up for that, how good would the new ult have to be? A negatron and 2.5 giants belts, about 3-3.5k gold or so. So a B.F. Sword and a Needlessly Large Rod, or 45 AD and 80 AP would be sort of a fair-ish trade.

But then you're sort of pigeonholed into building Warmog's if you want to actually attain the same stats as before, roughly where you would normally put a Gunblade, but you need the dual vamp still. And everyone already builds Gunblade already anyway, and it defeats everything that makes him Jax in the first place. :-/