Board Thread:League of Legends Wiki discussion/@comment-3308937-20130203232502/@comment-5362156-20130205141201

Dj0z wrote: It would look neater but is that the point of a wiki or the point of a design portfolio? I checked Morgana's page sandbox version, and there's a whole lot of valuable information lost in your process. Research that people took time to do, going into custom games specifically to figure out how things precisely work, and all that knowledge accumulated over time. Why would you just trash it all like that?

Namely, in the Morgana page, you ditched, among other things: the graphic Q bug; the Black Shield + Kayle R combo; the fact that Black Shield checks for CC after having absorbed the damage from the same spell; way too many mechanisms about the ult to even mention.

Those are details that separate players who know precisely what they are doing, and players who just hope a given spell will work the way they'd like it to. They allows plays, mechanical excellency, and prevents a great amount of questions from being asked in the comments. Check out said comment pages, the same questions already answered and whose answer was stored for future reference in the ability details page, will become asked again.

When the (a) wiki stops being the place where you can find all the answers you could possibly want, it's a step in the wrong direction, and eventually another site will arise to respond to the players' needs that are no longer fulfilled. Leave dumbed-down descriptions for the game client or ingame play, which fits perfectly because ingame, nobody has the time (or will) to read extensive details about everything. However when you come to the wiki you want all the details available should you need them. You don't want to have to reinvent the wheel and go play a custom to experiment until you figure out stuff that was already found and documented before, but then deleted for eye candy.

On another note, having to click 5 times to access a champion's full details is unnecessarily tedious.

Proposed solutions: don't hide ability details in 5 separate spoilers per page, make that 1 button opening all spoilers, or add such a button. Also don't remove the ability details page unless you plan to move all the information to your newly created spoilers.

Those were my 2 cents.

EDIT: TL;DR: if you don't want the details, you don't open the ability details page. If you do want them, they should be available, that's the point of a wiki. People worked for these details, erasing them is just wrong. Also having to click 5 spoilers is tedious. Ehm I think he didn't include everything because he kinda lazy and was more talking about the design idea, and the idea of merging the pages in general, taking the information over would liturally just be copy and past, for those kinde of ability/champ specific things.

And for the general things as I said a few posts obove one could use icons (with full text on hover)