Talk:Rammus/@comment-5514182-20131120041559/@comment-3578129-20131120063559

You're messing up ganking junglers with utility tanks. Best ganking junglers in solo q are kind of lee sin or xin zhao, because they clear relatively fast, make almost non-escapable ganks and duel pretty well. They both can destroy rammus in jungle.

But their teamfight presence is lower than the one of rammus or maokai or naut or other utility tanks.