Talk:Udyr/@comment-25855686-20170406154653/@comment-180677-20170412205637

@Fleedling Hyneken

It doesn't matter how Riot buffs or changes him.

People will whine even for an actually balanced champion as him, just because they have no idea what to do or how to play against him. Sure, Udyr greatly benefits from showing up at the enemies' worst time (like Flash/escapes/peel down), but in return, he is also very vulnerable if you have them at disposal.

@Vixilium

How do you mean "his early will be hit"? Because of 3 more mana for each skill you would skill at Level 1? No, now his level advantage has even greater meaning, and also, his sustain is even more godlike now and you can actually stay in Tiger Stance, just needs some attack speed to keep the procs coming till you get more levels to spam it.

I actually see no "nerf" in this, his early mana cost was always immense if you kept spamming.

The new Q will be more efficient with the third hit mechanic.