Talk:Nocturne/@comment-8506165-20131017143558/@comment-8506165-20131017153044

Yeah, sounds like we're pretty much in agreement. He's not bad, and Tankturne is mostly just people being stupid and ignoring the fact there are far better picks if you want a jungle tank, but... he just needs something. I still think that more people might actually catch on to the fact Noc can do damage if he got some kind of buff.

Now that I think on it, the passive really would be the way to go imo... buffing that would increase his survivability when he builds some damage, but not enough for him to forgo survivability altogether. And let's be honest it's pretty lacklustre at the moment, it really only helps his early jungle clears.

Although a lower cooldown on the lower ranks of the ult would be nice too. 180 seconds for launching yourself slightly further than a Nidalee spear? TF's got the same cooldown on a 5500 range teleport at rank one...