Talk:Aatrox/@comment-PrinceVinc-20130614232944/@comment-Tails365-20130615012318

I'd have to disagree. It's true he does have his strengths. However, anyone who can burst, ignore/deny damage and outsustain (yes, it's possible. Check Irelia) can actually beat him in top. He has a 16 sec gap closer his knockup radius is hilariously low, so in a lane u will rarely hit it. His slow is good, but on thoo high cooldown to spam poke. If you have a champ that can zone, he lost top. If you have a champ who has range and can disengage (jayce), you win top. If you can tank his damage and burst him, you win lane. I think he suffers Vi syndrome. Made for top, but better in jungle. I admit though, few are the ones who can play him well, so I haven't faced a good one yet. I have however played him a LOT on PBE and have to say this: his passive is OP, his ulti is crap.

For the passive, most of it is balanced. The problem is the 50% AS. It's so easy to get to the limit, even Jax has envy. It also is really strong early game and mid game (late game is meh). His ulti is only used for AS too. And his ulti at level 1 gives less AS than his passive (W8, wut?). So there is clearly a number problem here.