User blog comment:HeresyHorus/Syndra, a tale of a lost potential/@comment-15244341-20131030092305/@comment-24090792-20131101223547

"mages are FARM dependant. They don't NEED to kill" - correction - mages ONLY resort is trying to farm from early until mid game because they CANT kill anything ( except a very few ) with their overall LESS THAN AVERAGE scalings even when they hit level 6, and even in farming they dont do better than others because of their spells have low damage early while costing a much more mana than others lately and their aa is weak, slow and either non-responsive or have a slow moving projectile. also keep in mind that by doing so ( although i am exaggerating here because you have no choice as a mage but to farm for half of the game ) you will be outscaled by the assassin and thats inevitable even if you managed to kill him a couple of times as you are only delaying him a little since he will come back because he have less item dependency than you have for a couple of reasons : 1 - his abilities have more base damage and scale way more than yours with whatever he have ( let alone having an overall less cd and mana cost, and dont forget his aa too ). 2 - his kit being overall more versatile

"You can't farm for 20 minutes as LeBlanc, Akali, Fizz or any assassin. You need to start getting kills or you won't be dominant enough to one shot people which is your job." - well i have a couple of things to say before judging that :

1 - if you are complaining from farming as leblanc than you must be bad at last-hitting because leblanc has range, high responsive aa ( unlike morgana before the recent patch as Riot fixed that even though she used to have a good waveclear for people like you to say she doesnt need aa ), high speed projectile and a good base and scaling damage ( 51 (+3.5) which doesnt come in one pack in a lot of melee brutes let alone ranged champs which is - along with her kit that provide unparalleled utiltiy, positioning and CC power - one of the reasons for us to see those AD leblanc players ).

2 - akali ( being a manaless champ ) with her passive, q and e can farm will even under her tower while farm steady and safely with her passive, high movement speed, q, w ( with its stealth, long duration and tanky states ) and e.

3 - fizz maybe the only one who suffers from farming early ( there IS another one but i will keep him a secret from you :P ) but that doesnt validate your point as all of the others you that have mentioned in addition to assassins like yi and zed clearly show that assassins CAN farm better than others and having them roaming for kills is just abusing their high quality scalings, kit and states rather than their "supposed" inability to farm.

"And mages do not fall off as hard as assassins." - you will find the answers for that above.

"mages still get utility. Assassins don't." - a lot of assassins have way more utility and cc than mgaes ever dream to have ( leblanc, kassasdin, nidalee, ahri and to some extent talon ).

"Only AD assassins or champions with skills/passives made to do that have OK autoattacks ... My autoattacks as a mage can't compare to Diana's Passive, Fizz's trident or 100AD Zed's autoattacks is a derpy argument to make. Of course, they NEED that shit ... you apparently forgot what spells are made for (winning as a mage), and the rest of this paragraph" - you are now in line with me as my point is about being a mage you cant compare to anything as you have nothing good compared to anyone and you lack purpose mid and late game ( less than average ability base damage and scaling, higher mana costs, longer cd and some of the essential items being highly gold-inefficient compared to other classes counterparts like sorc boots (515g), Liandry's Torment (1020g ... freakin lot) and void staff (772g ... but do mention when comparing it to last whisper that you get 5 pen from masteries while mages dont), also ad assassins aa are NOT just ok and you MUST take them in account ( espicially zed and kassadin dude ... how you can ignore their aa ) as they are on par with adc as they benefit from items and abilities too, also please dont say that mages can still be a good source of cc as their cc skills are normal in line with most champs and if i want to play a cc champ to aid my team with i would play a supp champ not a mage since mages should be burst oriented not cc oriented.

"Maw is awful and a defensive item, since the damage it gives is shit for AD assassins compared to the options and price." - really dude maw is known to be an all around, gold-efficient and not highly situational item and its the reason - along with how life steal stacks and works with some ad abilities like nasus - for riot not to make zhonya for ad ... just go to its page and read about it.

"You can't say mages have high cooldowns because they usually don't have them in ALL their spells" - i didnt say ALL i said OVERALL and theres a lot of difference ( i am pretty good at math and if you want me to discuss medians and correlations with you i will be more than happy as i believe in sharing knowledge and no normal, healthy person is stupid ), also no one gonna build 40% cd reduction all times as it hurts the champ if you do aside from few like lux to spam her lazer as it has good base damage and scaling while covers a huge area.

"Being a Swain main, I have zero trouble with assassins simply because my champion does well against them, and a Talon mid lane is candy party for me." - i agree with you about swain because as i said before hes one of the "balanced" mages who have a purpose late game that complements his weak start game as we all know his super sayian 3 vs 1 stuff when build correctly but sadly most mages doesnt share his state of purpose either early, mid or late game and thats what pains me. btw i am happy to see guys main mages becuase its rare now due to the assassins meta as a no brainer-stomp easy-stomp hard all game long.