Talk:Braum/@comment-8506165-20140514163043/@comment-24707901-20140515142735

But Lulu cannot facetank much of an enemy team's abilities without surviving. And there is Braum, who once he has some Armor and HP, try to kill him so easily. Already free armor and damage reduction, along with 2 forms of hard CC (I'm counting his passive, since it is still an innate ability) with one form of soft CC (70% slow... still only a slow). E is arguably a lot better than Lulu's ult, since Lulu's ult max rank is 600hp+(50%ap) for a single target, while Braum's E blocks 40% of all incoming damage PLUS the first source of damage that is intercepted is completely negated, and it blocks in an area behind him. SO if someone does 1000 damage to a target, Lulu would need 800 ap to completely negate the damage done to said target with her ult. But with Braum, for someone to do the same damage to an ally behind him (they would be attacking him if it's a range AA or ability projectiles), they would need to do 1667. Not to mention the bonus armor and MR he can give to an ally. And Braum's E is on a shorter cooldown. Lulu and Braum play different roles, Braum is a tank, the tankiest tanks of tanks with CC better than that of Lulu(IMO). But you cannot give Braum much of a dueling potential, since in lane with a 70% slow and a stun it is more than certain he is going to be able to punch people in the face, as I have seen all Braums doing.