Talk:Garen the Night of Demacia/@comment-98.252.26.207-20110814143107/@comment-192.91.66.189-20110816154410

i would consider Atmas to be core on him, too. However, my point is that he *should* be played fairly situationally. If I am stomping in the other team and the rest of my team is doing ok, I tend to rush more straight damage (like IE) to increase our chances of pulling out a quick victory, since the worst thing you can do on Garen is drag the game out and then fall off late. If its not, then its worth investing in a more well rounded build like you mentioned. I have had pretty good success so far with this idea and it seems to make a lot of sense on him, given his potential face-rolliness in early game.

I haven't generally build SV/HoG into my build for Atmas, but you bring up several good points which I will have to try. If you can build those items a little earlier to get a little bit of a boost from Atmas, and then continue building health-y stuff (like Sunfire, Warmogs, or whatever else with health) then I feel like that would continue to buff his damage as the game goes on while giving him something to work off of early. The only problem is then that his late-mid to late game is still so gimped I feel like by the time you get the damage you need it will be too late.

I need to test around with this a bit though. Sounds like it could be fun.