Talk:Vladimir/@comment-5263329-20130201132742/@comment-78.192.18.88-20130215232618

Since the new health stacking meta I find a Liandry's Torment + Rylai's to be quite effective against a tanky team.

I usually start boot + 3 pot. Rush hextech + lucky, uprage my boot to sorcerer shoes and then I depend on the matchup :

Against squishy or need an early win => Rabadon then end the Wota and go abysal and Zonia to burst them down. As 6th item I usulay goes with rylay or DFG

Against tanky / need a good lategame => rush LT then Rylay's and only then the rabadon. The Wota is ended when teamfighting begin. If more gold Zonia is a must and Abysal or DFG if needed