Talk:Shen/@comment-188.4.251.8-20120119003642/@comment-3532889-20120120001557

That is somewhat of a misconception. While shen does not need kills necessarily, he DOES need farm and assists to tank well. Generally when you see a Shen ult in with a wimpy shield and dies to the champs he was trying to save you from, it's because he adopted the "no kills no farm" approach, and has suffered for it. Shen is a great champ imo, but holds no place in the current meta as there are a fair number of champs beating him at top, he is a slow jungler, and should not even consider mid or support bot.