Talk:Vayne/@comment-5077844-20150901203547/@comment-26001789-20150902065616

The problem is that you are thinking Vayne needs a support to be viable when she doesn't. Vayne needs very little to succeed in laning. Her laning is all about scaling and getting Silver Bolts procs which are very easy to get thanks to high AS scaling and Tumble. Her safety with E makes her difficult to reach coupled with Tumble and Final Hour is literally the biggest powerspike of any Marksman.

That's why her best supports are the ones who don't have to do anything besides babysit her, like Soraka, Lulu, Janna or Nami. She is selfsufficient. A literal sololaner.

Riot has said that being "too reliable" is a problem for the Marksman class(and the general duolaners like Mordekaiser but I reserve my toughts on that later) because their whole idea is to actually have a partner and succeed or have a team build around them. Vayne can function on her own and only gets stronger when people protect her. I will not be surprised if her Tumble cost more mana as it ranks up or just lower base stats.

Yes, I know I said in this page that Vayne has "counters" and you can do a lot of things to stop her but that's on teamfights and general 5v5. Vayne in lane is absurd and sometimes you can 100% lose a game because Vayne had a good laning where her whole point in laning is that she gets dumpstered in lane but she has a high scaling and midgame power spike, so it evens out provided your team(and you) know how to fight.

It also helps every single Vayne counter besides Draven has been swept away from nerfs or metashifts the only one that's close to coming back is Lucian.