Talk:Veigar/@comment-4748826-20140825215237/@comment-24636938-20140829194032

Counter play to the e is getting tenacity so his stun is shorter cant land his nuke if ur not willing to compromise part  of your build then for some champs it may seem like have no counter play. Why is yi to considerd dead weight in high elo? Cause everyone will buildthorn mail and maybe ninja tabbi to. Maybe vs viegar u wanna build abbysal instead of void staff. Need that mr he'll burst y'all.