Talk:Veigar/@comment-5172617-20121118004631/@comment-4729118-20121119151128

I like the usage of Seraph, but how much is it worth it?

As Veigar there are some "must have" Items: Boots, Rabadon, DFG and Voidstaff. So you can pick 2 items you wish. Lets take Seraph first:

Veigar has 1240 Mana at lv18, 2240 with Seraph. 3% of that is 67.2 AP. It has a base AP of 60, so you gain a nice boost of 127.2 AP... Well... actually i lovlier take just 100 AP and the Zhonya active, won't you too?

The last Item will probably become the new upgrade from Haunting Guise - it gives you 15 MPen Flat (yea All 20 MPen Items have been decreased to 15, even boots), 70 AP and 200 HP. It has a passive that burns 5% of current HP for each Skill you cast on an enemy. I guess Veigar's gonna be like that.