Talk:Lucian/@comment-25867286-20150808220257/@comment-25867286-20150910014755

No, I wouldn't say that Jinx can outlane him. He still needs some buffs but I still think he can be a lane bully, it's just unnecesarily difficult given his identity and it's not that much.

I started playing LoL around S4 just before Lucian was nerfed and I remember when he was picked I was like "damn, a Lucian". But it wasn't like I felt he was oppresive. He was okay.

I mantain my point that he either needs the passive reverted to 50% at level one or be granted back his W AD scaling and his old ult CD.