Talk:Garen/@comment-4900160-20120407133554/@comment-4568988-20120408033952

His late game falls off because he gets kited too easily, not because of damage or tankiness. Like it doesn't really matter how much damage he did with or without Atma's, unless you got the jump on someone, they just kite you. In a team fight without any closing ability it is very difficult to get past a team to their squishies unless their tanks and CCers are extremely noob. Even then they often use flash or a flash-like ability to make distance. Atma's also isn't something to counter other Tanky DPS (in fact it's a nerf to them too so I don't see how it makes Garen weaker against Tanky DPS). Against tanky DPS I get Last Whisper, problem solved. Obviously you should play what you want but just saying Garen is fine. Also tanky DPS did get a new item recently: Maw of Malmortius.