Talk:Jarvan IV/@comment-4677525-20120516081252/@comment-4917717-20120526063244

1) Rank flag against decent tops, so your harass is mixed damage, you fight better, and your mana costs don't scale up during laning. Build at least 3mp5.

2) Solo top Jarvan is underplayed imo and counters a good number of characters. Everyone can get terrible matchups top.  Everyone.

3) His ult has 450 base damage with a 1.5 ratio. They just flashed out after taking at-least 600 damage.

4) No. Just no.  He's not the same because he was a bit too good of a lane bully before.  The one second nerf on his Lance combined with the passive nerf was necessary imo.  Too much harass for how well he opened-up on people early-game.  I bought Jarvan upon release and he's been my main since.

5) I will agree with the Olaf statement. However, I don't feel that Riven's teamfight utility is comparable to J4's and Wu is just a worse champion for the places they go.  Sure, he scales better, but he's miles behind J4 in the jungle and a ways behind solo top.  This means that he's only really outshined by one of the three, while not really having a comparable kit to the person who does-so at all.

I think that Jarvan is one of the most under-appreciated champions in the game. Nobody plays this fool. I don't know why. He screams "DEMACIA!" while stomping his opponents to death and shattering the earth with his mighty boot.

My permanent away message is "J4ever."

He might be a prince, but Javan is the king of my heart <3