Talk:Garen/@comment-188.230.249.170-20130213095838/@comment-4948122-20130213105020

riven?irelia?jarvan top?olaf top?are you mentally retarded?those things dont counter garen even close,riven gets silenced and becomes useless,olaf isnt strong enough to kill garen and when he is low gets executed by garen,same with irelia and jarvan,jayce maybe but can get boned by garen,same with nidalee,the only champion who really counters garen is elise because she can harass him to death,but with her recent nerfs can go oom and killed.YOu people cant get over the fact that garen benefits too much from few items,he goes full tank and can still bring down a carry,why?because of his ult,it has no scaling,only cdr and mpen but he doesnt build mpen.His W is completely broken,30% damage reduction and cc reduction for up to 6 SECONDS,on a 20 second cd ,which can be brought to 12,he is the new darius,build tons of defense and be imposible to kill,also he can build atmas+black cleaver and then full tank and can outdamage a carry/bruiser whatever.He is simply not that balanced and deserves some nerfs.