Talk:Garen/@comment-95.88.69.75-20120724202351/@comment-3493296-20120801222223

Well, if you want to be serious, you must compare Garen to Darius. And basically, everything Garen got, Darius got it better. The most important parts are true dmg on ult instead of magic, passive % armorpenetration and even higher damage. If Garen wants to be ever viable again he must be at the same level like Darius.