Talk:Udyr/@comment-174.57.250.57-20130211221213/@comment-5489694-20130212052544

He's good both top and jungle. Jungle is easier to not get counter picked, but if you're solo and get countered you just max turtle and farm few champs will wreck you completely out of lane.

You can pick tiger or phoenix in either role. Tiger gives you single target burst and a constant AS steroid. Phoenix gives you aoe damage and a temporary AD/AP steroid.

Phoenix top can be played like Shyvanna was played back when she was real popular because of M5, you can push to tower and counter jungle really easily. If you're new with Udyr and are going solo just max tiger > turtle and you should have no problem winning trades and surviving in lane.

You can do w/e you want in the jungle because both are good. Although I'm a tiger fan I think phoenix is still strong and a little easier to play because of itemization.