Talk:Kayle/@comment-25304344-20140814150747/@comment-24082016-20140814163753

As long as the other lanes are doing their job(keeping their lane opponents busy w/o feeding), and the enemy jungler isn't free to camp your lane before your first back( bc your jungler is completely ignoring your lane), mid lane matchups are pretty winable.

Don't get me wrong, I hate the AP nerfs just as much as the next guy, but after making a few changes(skill pathing, item pathing), AP kayle proves to still work, for me at least.

Yes LB, Syndra and etc have a ton more early burst than Kayle, but thats pretty much always been the case. Kayle's kit isn't meant for "bursting down" people like mages. She isn't even classified as 1. She's  Fighter-Support. She wasn't built to have a cycling of skills that combo-ed out a crapton of damage. It's was just her ability to synergize with certain items that allowed her to become bursty, if built for that purpose, by some point mid/late game.

Now, i'm gonna suggest something that you probably already do, or know, but haven't perfected, bc by no means is it easy. Learn to bait fights for Kayle when odds are stacked in your favor. Odds include your fury not being on cooldown/recently activated, enemy focused on farming(espeically those juicy big minions), enemy's ability kit includes abilities that can only land if you arent behind some meat shield(minion, monster,champ), enemy champs using+missing(on you) their 2 most focused damage skills(for mages, usually their R and something else), knowing where the rest of enemy team is including jungler/having good ward vision, and your intervention is up(so when you're going ham or baiting w/ low hp under turret, and your opponent makes the "move/sign/hint/whatever" that couldnt be described as anything other than them going all in, you can just pop that intervention and either win an important trade or get a kill). What I've listed is Kayle 101, and even despite the nerfs, playing with these in mind(and other's i either forgot to list, or some other "genius" knows about), you should be winning 1v1 matchups vs mages and a number of assassins(not counting akali, since all u need for dealing with her is some bait and a pinkward...and to not be behind in farm/lvls. dc gg) inlane.