Talk:Swain/@comment-3013755-20130710073207

A common mid Swain problem I see is that he has problems clearing waves.

Then simply max your Nevermove first! It does decent base damage and can hit enough minions to clear waves and then roam. Max your slow second for ganks.

You do less theoretical damage than simply maxing Torment, yet you actually get to roam and make plays with your snare.

As for toplane Swain, I think maxing Torment would still be the best choice for trades.