Talk:Renekton/@comment-2.226.181.120-20121110103728/@comment-5009341-20121111020252

@neon: not sure whether for real or just sarcasm,

rene back then was fotm, cause some people realized how to play him and since NOONE knew how to play against him he was a viable pick back then, but now people know and therefore he suck, he is very very situational, and then he is only balanced

he has so many flaws in his kit it isnt even funny (in development these flaws were necessary to balance him out, but after the 4 mega nerfs he is just shit, pretty much everything viable or strong was ripped away from him and all what remained was a hyperweak champion)

irelia got countless small nerfs, but is still viable and picked/banned frequently in tournaments

rene was only then picked cause he was unknown and people were not used to play against him.

same happened when some pro player picked prebuff eve in 2200 elo and won 80% of the games, does this mean the old eve was OP?

or urgot who was fotm for a short time

same would happen if a pro heimerdinger goes bot support, but does this mean heimerdinger is viable?

NO, u just have an advantage cause noone knows how to play against u and doesnt know what u are capable off