Talk:Ryze/@comment-5663971-20150430004956/@comment-25432881-20150430194616

Lets see, the difference for the best case for E when maxed vs only rank one is 352. This requires 6 bounce targets and ult active for splash. Not counting the increase of mana scaling, that is 4 maxed Q to make up the difference for a burst combo. Less if E is rank 2 which is likely, but I don't have time to work it out right now. So E max is good if your opponent does not learn to not stand in his own wave and stay there so you can get in range.