Talk:Shyvana/@comment-7599556-20130921223507/@comment-5209745-20131003124842

''And while phage is awesome, triforce isn't as good on shyv as it is on other bruisers, plus it's reduced build path isn't very tempting on tankier bruisers. Frozen mallet hasn't been changed for the better either, retaining it's hefty cost for stats that are outshined by other items along with a heavily nerfed passive. Taking phage out of FM's build path without replacing it with a new advanced tier item doesn't help out either.''

Allow me to add a thing or two about FM and Trinity:

I began playing with Shyv a year or so before S3, and even then, at the very beginning, I didn't see any good reason to build it. Seriously, Shyv has way better HP options like SotAG, Randuin's, and specially Sunfire cape, which synergizes greatly with her W. On the other hand, regarding the slow, Randuin's and BotRK are also great. With the W speed-up you don't really need a permaslow that much.

About Trinity, well, you don't have any real use for the AP, and the mana is pretty much wasted, but before it lost the Icy passive it was actually pretty acceptable on her (And even cost-efficent while wasting the AP and mana), at least it was a better item than FM if you ask me. It gave the same AD, some HP, AS wich is crucial in Shyv's kit, the percentual MS is nice, and well, the crit chance isn't really wasted, although not crucial on her. But the real point for building it on her was because the Spellblade proc raises her next AA by 174, almost the same as a fully stacked BT and an Hydra, but just occupying one slot. But the Rage passive feels worthless when you can already speed yourself up with W, so at best I can see Trinity as a lane item now. Still better than FM, but worse than before. BotRK still outshines it in any jungle build.