Talk:Renekton/@comment-5365344-20120803215659/@comment-4929329-20120805072126

^By that logic, since Fiddles is sometimes played mid, we should lower his mana costs to help him lane. That logic is wrong. In fact, a few days ago, Fiddles had 60% win rate in Platinum ELO. He's borderline OP!

Long CDs are to be expected on any sort of burst, especially a manaless one, or Renekton could very well break the game.

Renekton's passive is quite potent in a 1v1 situation. Expecially with some AS.

Slice and Dice is basically a little less powerful than Anivia's dmg output, except it's an AoE. You call that WEAK!? It doesn't even need Fury to be a broken move.

Darius W is a slow, and at max rank it only does 2x an autoattack with a slow. Renekton can Stun with his, it has base dmg, and with Fury it's even better because it's 2 and 1/4 of an autoattack.

Q is honestly Renekton's weakest move, it's used solely for sustain. I'd rather have this move heal for a lot more and deal a little less dmg to minions.

Ex: Cull The Meek [Remake]

Does 1/2 dmg to minions, heals for 10% of dmg dealt to minions. Fury empowered creep heal is 20%.

This would make Renekton push much less than he currently does, while still getting the same amount of sustain.

This isn't a golden rework and I don't really like it much myself, but Renekton needs more sustain than "push top to its tower, gain 50 hp for it, you can only do this when you have Fury and the CD is 8sec"