Talk:Kayle/@comment-25304344-20150930133151/@comment-25447003-20150930163926

I'm in for the AD buff, as Kayle has been nerfed 3 patches in a row - As if she was some OP champion.

The fact that she has like 53% win-rate is all about her teamfight presense - when game is late a win in teamfight becomes a victory, especially in low ELO. This is similar to champions like Amumu, Brand, Fiora (pre-rework) who used to have 54%-55% win-rate in SoloQ due to their ult. Actually their win-rate is lower in higher ELO (Plat+), and they rarely make into competitive play (LCS/LCK/LPL/etc).

Kayle has even less appearance than those "SoloQ champs" in the tournaments, because she doesn't have gap-closer nor hard-CC. At high level play a snare of Morgana or Lux can be fatal for Kayle even when her ult is up.

Why did Kayle have to be nerfed more times than Azir or Kalista (considered to be OP at high-level)? And the popularity of Vayne and Riven is still high, the nerfed to Riven is -5MS (her shield still scales with AD). Vayne is nerfed -3AD but buffed +0.25/lv (nice compensation) means she is even stronger at late game !

Regarding W buff proposal, that's not as strong as you may think. Nami can heal every 6s (with Frozen Heart & Athene), and can still be killed quite fast. Soraka can heal every 2s or so, not to mention her ult, and still not very viable as far as I know.