Talk:Veigar/@comment-5386529-20150302012841

About new Veigar... He's broken beyond belief and I'm not meaning OP but damn UP. Where should I start...

While I agree about nerfs to E because itself spell was ridiculous (instant AoE stun) they just overdid it. While stripping E from reliance they took his 2nd reliable spell and made it a skillshot leaving him with: - Q which is useless to dashing around champs (unreliable) - W which cannot be used w/o E (same as above) - E which cannot stop anything with dash (and barely can stop no dash champ if u target enemy in the middle and pray for not changing direcion) - R... which has 650 range (reliable? nope - cooldown)

Q and R were a very similar spells and kinda boring (and ult was more boring of them two) so I don't understand why they left almost untouched (apart of ratio) ult and changed more interesing spell (and made it less reliable)?

E... only 0.75 sec delay? Did they forget about cast time (+0.25sec?!)

W - untouched for no reason

Some guy reworked his kit basing on the old kit which was balanced around reliable stun... and took his whole (I mean WHOLE) reliability and caling it a day. Sion is more reliable with his Q than Veigar now with his E.

Also i don't understand one fact - Riot is fighting with nukers w/ no counterplay - WHY THEY LEFT AN ULT IN ALMOST UNTOUCHED STATE?! this spell provides LEAST counterplay of all his spells, still punishing enemy AP for building AP and being point-and-click nuke.

I know they are in progress in compesation buffs after his rework but imo rework is done on saw and duct tape (cut it there and put together on tape). Rework only address his one of the problems, adding in place unnecessary thing and leaving rest in untouched state.

And no - in this state his stun is equaly unreliable in teamifight and you'll be mostly forced to burn nuke in bruiser diving up your ass before you explode inside out. Variety of fisting sponsored by Vi!

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