Talk:Jax/@comment-3014924-20100823093922

Well, since his nerf, I really struggle with him (and considering posts about it on the official fora, I'm not the only one).

At the start, I'd better be very carefull because without ulti and Rageblade, I'm not going to dominate (unless ofc, my lanemate has good damage output/crowd control abilities). I really need to have a good lanemate on this phase. The main problem is, I can damage opponents but seldom land a kill. Later on, I have a lot more attack power, yet 5 on 5 abilities power tend to kill me very fast.

I don't initiate fights. I would die in seconds. Yet, even with a few secs of delay, I enter fights and die.

To be strong, I need to stay farm gold, and I'd rather get a few kills. If I didn't, I try to catch up by jungling (dragon at lvl 10 roughly for exemple). But that never makes me a carry for the team. I take the lizard buff as many time as I can.

Yet on 5 on 5, everything depends on my lanemate qualities/abilities, and I guess I would do equally well with another fighter champion.

On 3*3, it's somewhat different. As there is a longuer space between the first towers and the neutral minions are very close to tower, I can kill somewhat earlier and jungle a lot more which can give me the edge to make Jax a real carry. Doran Sword+Tabi+Rageblade+sword of the occult+guardian can turn the game in my favor.

The other thing that helps out, is the fact that spellcasters are less effective in 3*3. While in 5 on 5, you might face Annie+Ryze (for exemple) such a combination is highly unlikely in 3*3. They have no champion (well only 1) that can protect them and hence, their low HP makes them vulnerable. So 3*3 is more adapted to Jax.

I'll try Xin Zhao once. I'm sure that this new Jax is weaker then Xin, Olaf and Tryndamere. Yet I love his design and that's what makes me sad.