Talk:Swain/@comment-173.174.230.50-20120621041557/@comment-5068327-20120621042350

No point in getting Dorans for him. With good rune set he would have nice amounts of AP for early game. Beside, with his passive, you barely need mp5 for early game. Just get boots + 3 pots, easily the best starting items out there.

As for Chalice and Catalyst, it depends on you.