Talk:Ziggs/@comment-25532677-20160510050538/@comment-24055932-20160510203028

I'm a Xerath main, so naturally I tried to pick Ziggs up. But he's just way too frustrating. Against good opponents, you can't accumulate poke damage reliably enough, so you end up being zoned and trying to waveclear, always sacrificing one or two minions per wave. And in fights, you always are forced to play into other people's (damage) CC.

I'd be fine that restriction, he's supposed to be a teamfighter after all. But the damage you get for hitting a Q simply isn't reward enough. Yes, you can zone enemies off, but you hardly can hit them on long distance. And if I just want to let 1 guy in, there are better zoning choices than Ziggs.

Of cause, Ziggs has a few things going for him. E.g. his ult being fire and forget and playing beautifully into teammates CC. So you can peel for the adc and get some damage on the carries.

But in the end that's simply not enough, especially the way he's incapable of finishing off champions reliably outside of his ult and standing his ground in 1vs1's.