Talk:Gragas/@comment-25912163-20150521182926/@comment-1120494-20150710094047

I did the math and Gragas deals more burst damage than Sejuani, but Seju does more damage over time. The only way to catch up for Gragas is to sacrifice tankiness to get 40% cooldown reduction and be able to spam his Q and W twice in one fight.

While cc is similar to each other, Sejuanis is a lot easier to use, especially on several enemies. Sure, both have aoe cc, but Gragas has delays and massive position-issues while Seju gets her cc immediatly and on everyone.

Regarding tankiness, I prefer Sejus permanent 25 extra armor over Gragas temporary 18% damage reduction and ~12% maxHP heal.

In conclusion, its a draw. Both do nearly same damage, cc and tankiness, but Seju is easier to play and therefor gets higher success rate.

By the way, using adverbs like "much" after every sentence or "basically zero downtime" doesnt make that cooldown magically disappear or arguments in general more legit. In the end its raw math and numbers dont care about stories full of exaggerations. They just add up, or dont.