Forum talk:Neekerivittu/@comment-125.60.237.146-20121119153147/@comment-164.78.248.244-20121120022142

Theres alot of people actually arguing that Talon can easily be countered by vision, but didnt realise that whether he can be seen during his ult or not, the blades flying about still have their damage dealt, whereas for Zed, a simple CC to stop him after hitting his ult almost guarantee that his ult will only deal his base damage (1 AA) and nothing else, probably causing him to die as well, so Talon is in a sense alot safer than Zed, and the Rake is definitely more reliable than shuriken, Rake is like Shadow Slash + Shuriken 2 in 1, except you still need to do some whacky shadow thingie to make it do about the same thing as Rake(1 button press versus 3 buttons combo with precision and accuracy), also with a smaller AoE, i feel that Riot designed Zed to be a cool champion with some form of sense of achievement if you do manage to pull off the combo properly and kill someone, otherwise, he's just the complicated and weaker version of Talon. Let's wait if theres any buffs incoming.