Talk:Shen/@comment-25320798-20150503031659/@comment-25320798-20150605181912

Old LCS games are irrelevant because they are old. League of Legends is an entirely new game from what it was in season 1-4. The fact that you told me to get educated on Shen's potential by watching old league of legends videos shows that you shouldn't be debating me on this. Aside from a handful of support champions Shen has the worst damage and wave clear in the game. Tryndamere is inarguably better then shen in team-fights. The opposing team must use CC and exhaust on tryndamere if they want their ap and ad carries to stay alive. With shen they just walk around him. The chances of taunting the entire enemy team is close to 0. Shen's ult is the second longest cooldown in the game. Singed doesn't need to kill anyone - he pushes lanes so much that he draws pressure away from other lanes - in team-fights Singed will provide just as much or more overall dps from his poison trail as the carry while still being a tank. I understand Shen is very hard to kill one on one - but that isn't the point seeing that League of Legends is a team game. What good is it being overly tanky if you can't contribute? You can survive longer then most other champions but that is useless if you can't use your survivability to significantly disrupt the enemy team.