Talk:Jax/@comment-3014924-20130327103020/@comment-9153612-20130603113634

21/9 was great on Jax S2 because he was such a beast from mid-late game but now in S3 where most tops can put in little effort and still win lane I'd go with 9/21 or even 15/15 if you really want to get the dual penetration as well as block in the defensive tree which will help you greatly in lane.

I suggest making a page with flat armor yellows and blues if you're going to face a Riven, Renekton, or Kennen (since most will buy double dorans in lane for harrass then build AP after which at that point you will have your hexdrinker).

Against Riven I'd play against her like I play Poppy. Farm your 3 and avoid harrass even if it means losing CS. If you're purple side, their jungler is more likely to gank you first so playing safe for the early levels is paramount. Freeze the lane near your tower and keep a ward near your tower and in the river. Jax benefits from items even more than Riven so with time you'll be able to beat her granted she doesn't have too big of a CS lead on you and didn't get a kill in another lane.