Talk:Vayne/@comment-24896347-20150917005301/@comment-24055932-20150917144028

You don't really make a point here besides that she's seen to much lately. Something that's common for adc's. There will always be one better than the others, even if only slightly, and he'll thus get picked 9/10 times. We had it with Lucian, we had it with Graves, we had it with Jinx. (And propably a few more, but those are the ones I remember clearly)

Her E isn't a point and click hard CC. TF has one. Vayne needs to either get into a good position herself or have an enemy stupid enough to cling to a wall to get a stun. That makes it a skillshot. Just like Poppy E. And have you ever seen Vayne use Condemn twice in a fight? Cause that'd be a weird fight, with Condemn having 20~12 second CD (and Vayne doesn't build CDR). During laning you got a window as big as a palace door to abuse a wasted condemn. Mid or lategame, the common burster takes 0.1~0.4 seconds to kill Vayne, so 12 seconds are generous.

Her Q has 0.5 bonus AD on her next AA. That's it. No AS Steroid, no flat damage. And the extra damage, read the ability details, doesn't crit. If we're honest here, the bonus damage is hardly important at all. 2 Q mean 1 extra AA, which, I say it again, won't crit. Wasting your dash for that bit of damage? No chance in hell.

"Doing much apart from [...], rolling everywhere and autoattacking [...]"

In that sentence, you describe her whole kit. She has nothing else she can do, you know that? She can only roll around, auto-attack, activate R and use E. Of cause she can kill people that way, otherwise her winrate would be a solid 0. But if you look at it the other way around, all you need to handle to beat Vayne, is a little rolling around and auto-attacking...