Thread:Willbachbakal/@comment-1920550-20160422050145/@comment-1330314-20160618163840

Don't get me wrong, I think every assassin should work well as part of a team (and some already do, as you mentioned), and you could argue Nocturne's already team-oriented due to his global utility-heavy ult. What I'm saying is that the first ability you mentioned is going to completely change his strategy on top of his gameplay (he's currently a flanker who tends to splitpush before entering fights, and with that ability he'd be hiding inside allies, and may lose some early game independence as a result), so it's only something you should put specifically on his kit because you've considered all the implications and the reasons for changing him in that way.

As for the stun, you need to consider how it'll play out and the power it represents, which will help guide your implementation. A targeted stun is very reliable, which means if you add it you're going to have to give Nocturne more unreliability elsewhere so that he gives his targets proper agency (so "press W to stun your target and kill them with the rest of your abilities" is out of the question). You could give him a mechanic similar to his current E, but I'd argue that ability's too reliable and low on counterplay right now. As for making his stun single-target or AoE, any kind of AoE effect is a huge increase in power, particularly when it comes to CC, and especially when it comes to hard CC. With enough range, an AoE sleep effect might very well be an ult. I'd also avoid adding a damage amplifier or any other kind of conditional bonus on that effect, since the cancel-on-damage stun effect makes it complex enough and could already allow for interesting gameplay on its own. If Nocturne needs more raw power, it would be better to distribute it in a manner that doesn't involve a damage amp.

I get that there are thematic reasons for why you'd want to move Noc's ult to another champion (though darkness and isolation are perfect for his own theme), but in terms of gameplay it's a big part of his identity, and is both healthy and functional on him even now. This isn't really a case like where his ult is so inappropriate it's messing up his identity.