Talk:Nunu/@comment-5077844-20130702125022/@comment-4964269-20130704134626

Back in Season 2, Shyvana would be occasionally banned because she was a strong countejungler herself in terms of invading and clearing with her AoE W. Nunu is different. His Q deals 1000 true dmg at max rank, at rank 1 it deals 600. That is more than what Smite does for a jungler at level 4. Any good Nunu could just walk up to you at lvl 1 when you are starting your blue, Q and then smite it. Unless you are also playing Nunu or have quick reflexes, there is no way you would be able to outsmite Nunu. On top of that, if Nunu were to ever get ahead on you in levels, you could guarantee yourself getting deprived of exp due to his Q.

What also makes Nunu a broken jungler is the fact that you would need at least an entire team to kill him because his W and E makes him impossible to kill on top of the Q which gives him hp back making him harder to put down. Let's not forget the fact he can do dragon 5 minutes just when the game is about to start. He can also solo Baron with enough cdr at level 11-14 by himself. He is just a good raid boss in the right hands and people don't want to deal with him during the laning phase because he annoys not just your jungler, but everyone else.