Talk:Volibear/@comment-24823977-20141020125639

ok so i tried a thing yesterday...ap voli...early wits end...then LT-RCS-ZH-AS-DC...it actually works

early game you have to be careful but but once you get WE and some ap you can hit like a truck

tried it in normals---early game i got wrecked(bot lane with a shaco against draven and a proper support(cant remember who tho) so it was expected and i kept getting caught away from my team so at the end of the game i wa 4-8 but heres the thing i had enough gold to get a few items because we went into late game and i had Wits end-laundrys torment-ryls-a blastin wand and Sorc boots and i was staying at base(i was too weak to do anything in a team fight) so i was protecting our open mid inhib and a Darius snuck down to try and take it...(now heres the thing that i found kool and made me see voli as a potentaly strong ap/tank hubrid) now this darius had 20+ kills at this point and eather had full build or extramly close to it so he tried to take my ihib so we all in eachother and i won..i decimated him(he had MAW as well) and still had half HP while he was down to a quarter befor  my teams poppy charged in and blew him up.

tho after that first game i tried it against a zed and then a kat..and i was able to dominate both of them(tho voli can stop kats ult so its more in volis favor)

like why dose no one try ap voli? it works great