Talk:Nautilus/@comment-67.248.86.64-20130219065154/@comment-5490997-20130305115647

^^ Yeah it probably isn't the only factor, but because it's usually my first major item after boots, it is the item I get most often and most consistently.

I've tried Wit's End in the past and I really doubt you can do anything better with it. Wit's End gives you 42 on-hit magic damage, 0.245 AS and 25-45 mres (depending on stacks). With AS marks + Wit's End I get to 1 AS with Nautilus (~1.08 I think). That means it takes ~4 seconds to get up to 4 stacks, which is horribly slow for a stat that mostly has to protect you from burst damage which get blasted at you the moment a fight starts. Also with Naut's W you gain only ~2 attacks at best. 0.245 AS gives roughly 1 extra attack every 4-5 attacks, with 1 attack per second that gives you 2 extra attacks over 10 seconds, which is assuming your shield will not get popped before that. It also means you get ~42 magic damage per second out of Wit's End, assuming you also run AS marks.

So yeah, I'm not seeing how 25-45 magic resist and 1 extra attack every 4-5 attacks is worth 2200 gold when Sunfire cape can deal just as much damage with far better defenses (not to mention it's AoE, not single target damage). And Elder Lizard wins when it comes to dealing raw damage.

Elder Lizard's 50 AD + true damage DoT adds just as much if not more damage than Wit's End does. 4 attacks with +50 AD = 200 damage, 5 attacks with +42 = 210, but then the DoT from Elder Lizard easily adds that 10 damage difference, so with no other AS items besides Wit's End the damage output is roughly the same from auto attacks. However it gives CDR as well, which might allow Nautilus to get off 1 more spell than he could with Wit's End (which is worth more than enough to compensate for the lack of AS). Now add that Elder Lizard can also be applied in AoE through Q, E and R and I'm pretty confident Elder Lizard deals significantly more damage to a team as a whole.

Sure you lack defenses on that 1 item, but if you're looking for defense + offense Sunfire is a lot better than Wit's End. And if you're looking for the most damage out of 1 item (because you only get tank items besides that) then Elder Lizard can easily compete with Wit's End.