Talk:Udyr/@comment-7818256-20130802011308/@comment-7818256-20130802121328

I understand he is strong early game but the story i just shared of dying to him in those circumstances is proof imo that hes just a bit too strong, The only good thing he did was bait out my shield as noc before switching to tiger stance again so i didnt get my attack speed buff. We both were withing 1 auto attack of dying but between his bonus attack speed he gets from his Q and passive he just out attacks me...I understand he can get kited easily which is pretty much his only major weakness. I am not asking for a hard nerf, just for people to consider the risks and rewards being almost untangable of counterjungeling an udyr. It just seems like riot made him prettymuch killproof early game.