Talk:Riven/@comment-60.241.125.152-20121030210327/@comment-70.251.121.85-20121102230642

i meant no one stands still in one place to wait for the creeps to lose health and then last hit them, they are constantly moving around to stay unpredictable.

the comment about the health was a poke at "(well, maybe you do build health in lane, but then you shouldn't even talk about who outlanes Riven and vice versa, as you still got a lot to learn about her)." i was being a smartass since i took ur comment as an insult.

??? i have no idea why u brought up jayce with doran blades and mr

the moment Rene dashes to you? that moment is when he hits 3 has all of his skills and wins all the trades between you two. until then all he does is farm and sustain with his Q. as i said before Rene wins the trades simply becuz he has built in sustain with his Q.

I thought we were talking about lvl 3 Jax now we move to lvl 5? by lvl 5 riven will have maybe two dorans and a vamp scep or a longsword depending on your build route and how well u cs-ed. Jax will have at least a ninja tabi. that along with the usually 9/21/0 mastery will negate over a third of her damage. so yes 240 (2.1 bonus) is nice but a large chunk of it will be gone due to his armor. so again as i meantioned before riven loses the trade becuz she loses the auto attack part of her combo while Jax can get his full combo off and walk away.

I have no idea why you brought up her teamfight potential. I have over 150games with her in ranked alone i know full well what she can do. you dont have to preach to me about her broken aspects.

and lastly you said "I believe Riven can, if played well, outlane anyone." that comment can apply to every single champ in this game.

That is not the arguement ive been trying to make with all these posts. Im not accouting the difference in skill lvl as to why one person will beat the other person in lane.

I am trying to get the point across that these 3 particular champs are unfavorable matchups for Riven.