Talk:Liandry's Torment/@comment-9771997-20150212020058

I used to really like this item, but to be completely honest, I really really don't like it anymore; I feel like it's SUPER overrated. The AP isn't much, the health isn't much, the pen is nice but outclassed easily, and the passive is nice, but on most of the people I see building it (Brand, Katarina, Malzahar, etc.) it's horrible. Why? When I see a Brand or Katarina building it, I say to them, "If they're still alive for the passive to hurt them, you've done something wrong.", and I stand by those words. Brand and Katarina (and a lot of other people that build it) completely nuke people... so why do you need a burn? If your burst didn't kill the tank, then odds are they're either too low for the DoT to do anything, or too high for the DoT to do anything. It's also worth mentioning that it burns them for magic damage, so in addition to the burn dying off the lower they get, its damage is further reduced by magic resist.

In theory it could be good on a dps mage, but really, if you're keeping up a stream of damage, would a diminishing burn be worth more than 50 or more AP, and whatever else comes with it?

tl;dr: The stats are mediocre. If they're squishy enough to burst, the burn is worthless. If they're too tanky to burst, the burn is less worthless, but still probably not good.