Talk:Skarner/@comment-25532677-20150825171032

So I kinda have a question and I want see what you guys think; Is it not strange that outside of Skarner's Mana sustain, Udyr's Ganks are practically stronger than Skarner's at nearly all points of the game? The only time when Skarner's ganks are stronger is when Skarner uses his ult which then is stronger due to the Suppression and displacement. Volibear has speed for ganks, and a displacement tool on top of that, furthermore a powerful slow and execute. As for Gragas, not only has a ranged displacement tool, has a poweful slow and a mobile stun.

Udyr also is better at dueling than Skarner due to Udyr's faster and consistent mobility, higher and flexible dps (Can choose between AP Phoenix or AD Tiger) and on par tankiness (Udyr's shield may be weaker in comparison, but not only is it on a much shorter cooldown, also offers lifesteal in conjunction.) Volibear is nearly unbeatable in a sustained fight thanks to his passive and his ult makes his dps skyrocket, and a very powerful execute that scales off of your HP. Gragas may perhaps not be as good as duelists to these two due to his "caster" like nature, is worth mentioning he still does well in drawn out, sustained fights.

Build paths are nearly Identical, Udyr's and Skarner's involve usually either a Sheen item or Black cleaver as core, followed by tank stats and cooldown reduction which Gragas and Voli also like to build. All have excellent clear speeds and are great at counter jungling. Both Udyr and Skarner are great at securring objectives, while Voli is good at sustaining them and Grags is good at stealing.

I bring this up because when anyone talks about why Skarner is powerful, very rarely is it mentioned that it's because of his ganks or objective control. It's usually about 1v1s or teamfights. Why is it so wrong that skarner excells so well at 1v1s and teamfights, when champions like udyr, volibear, and gragas have been in the same boat for quite some time, yet you very rarely hear complaints towards them?