Talk:Riven/@comment-5077844-20150113115846

I wonder if she'd be more balanced if we removed the execute damage from her ult (the one that increases based on missing HP) and replace it with something that increases wind slash's damage, based on how much damage you dealt to champions during your ult. Similar to Zed, but more along the lines of: If I want this huge damage burst I have to commit to fighting...At some point it becomes a little bit frustrating if you try to sustain in lane and she just pokes you by engaging and retreating (we all know she can do that in a bunch of matchups)...and then just do one all in a burst them down without them every having a chance of retaliation.

Imagine sommething like a Renekton, and he had a tough start and he's trying not to push his lane, but Riven constant aggresion forces him to use his Q to heal up. Now he's trying his beest to trade with Riven, but since he doesn't want to overcommit with E and die he can always only WQ her when she attacks....blablablbal *insert "renekton ounters Riven, you just suck" comment here* Either way, they're both at 50% HP now. Technically, without ultimates, Renekton has a fair chance of killing her here. Problem is, the both have ult. NOw if Riven activates ehr ult and rolls in with EQQQW, she will..maybe...deal around 25% of his health...maybe less, depending on his items. This is the part where normally a renekton would pop his ult, gain some hp, use his combo and usually outduel most of his opponent....Riven however, just uses her Windslash and he is dead meat without a real chance of retaliation.

If her ult was to work like I imagined, her damage would NOT be enough to just execute him from this point. In order to do this, she'd have to harass/trade some more beforehand, which more or less gives her enemy a fair chance of a) countering her attack in some way, or b) realizing that they#re about to get their face kicked in, forcing them to retreat.

What I'm up to is...I feel it'S very frustrating to know that even at 50% HP or sometimes higher, you're very much in danger of getting bursted down....as a lot of champs.