Talk:Veigar/@comment-176.25.120.18-20120825071335/@comment-125.253.97.38-20120831090820

Chalice works with his passive but I don't find it working well with his kit.

Most of the AP you get from Q as veigar is not from early levels due to Q's longer cooldown at early level (8/7/6/5/4). And by using Q on creep early, you are losing your lane presence because you used your only reliable harrass on a creep.

Most of the Q farm is done when you are level 9 with rank 5 Q and a blue buff. by the time of level 9 chalice's effect is quite minimal.

You are much better off rushing a DFG before level 7-8 and grab a free kill on bot lane everytime your ulti is up.