Talk:Elise/@comment-189.170.12.18-20130304042804/@comment-69.141.8.150-20130309025510

"I'd still max W 1st tbh

I don't max Silver Bolts 1st on Vayne "

Vayne has great AD ratios and silver bolts requires three consecutive hits to proc. This makes Q a better ability to level up first.

Elise has poor AP ratios and leveling up Q actually benefits two nukes instead of just one ability. This is also Elise's best harassment tool. Human form W is slow and blocked by minions.

Elise needs gauranteed harass to poke, poke, poke her opponent down then jump on them with Spider E and execute (or force them out of lane or whatever).