Talk:Jarvan IV/@comment-4290320-20130902195001/@comment-4921223-20130903013101

He is a viable toplaner but he has several flaws as such, such as not having sustain and rather weak long duration trades (though he excels at poking his opponent down).

Jungling him is very safe and has almost no downside. Well if you don't snowball you're kind of an utility bot, but J4 is not a bad utility bot. And every jungler that doesnt snowball pretty much becomes an utility bot / meat shield.