Talk:Garen/@comment-9172004-20141102170454/@comment-15244341-20141103003351

Actually, the ult's damage is insane. 525+40% missing health is A LOT. It's also the only magic damage Garen has (well, if he doesn't have Sunfire), so the armor you build against him is useless against the ult.

The cooldown, range and how easy it is to flash out of it are the big issues. Mostly the cooldown, to be honest. It is a big part of Garen's threat vs squishies and 80 seconds is insane at level 3 for how little Garen does without it.

Also, sometimes, if people go into a bush while you ult and you lose sight of them, it gets cancelled. That is definitely annoying.

A better cooldown would do much to help Garen. Not sure about anything else being worth it.