Talk:Riven/@comment-5209745-20131204175508/@comment-5489694-20131205113823

"To be honest I don't even build SotEL on jungle Riven. I've done it for a while, but now I just start red pot, kill enemy jungler on their second buff, and then I gank the fuck out of enemy lanes and I get enough gold to buy a BF Sword on the first back. If not more."

I wrote some stuff but it sounded really rude and stuff so I cut the fat.

There's no way you Red pot jungle regularly and do well unless you play against extrememly extremely extremely incompetent players. You need to get 2-3 kills for red pot to pay off. Junglers are broke af early on, and in general, spending 350 on a consumable for a champion that scales entirely off of items is silly. You're not guaranteed kills, you wont always find a jungler at their second buff (for a ton of reasons) or be able to gank a lane resulting in a kill. Junglers can be played aggressively but we must use our gold wisely. Long Sword > Red pot to a jungler. Like, I don't want to say you're a bad jungler for that 2nd paragraph so I'll just say you shouldn't be giving "advice" because there's a lot wrong with it :l

I don't like fake or exaggerated information and that entire 2nd paragraph is such to me.

@Myself If Whythisname's info on the SotEL page is accurate SotEL will be better for jungle Riven if it's changed. I think Conservation is more useful for her because she roams quite a bit, making the most out of that passive. SotEL is pretty great atm, I want to see how it works with Udyr now but I haven't had time to play.

Man  I just came here to look up some info on her kit :l