Talk:Yasuo/@comment-24090662-20141008012739/@comment-15280970-20141009050051

Ok these are reasons I think get champs nerfed:

1 he stomps competitive/5v5 and is mechanicanically overloaded(Lee Sin, Leblanc, Orianna): No, yasuo is ok and sometimes bad in competitive, he does the things a fed mid does when he gets fed and dies instantly (even vs kassadin) when he screws up.

2 He is inhibitive and does his job a lot better, in a safer way than other picks, lacking apparent weaknessess: Ziggs, Lucian, Gragas, Tristana. I don't think it is a good idea to pick him into any team composition (loads of cc...).

3 He lacks counterplay, hence winning against him depends mostly on his actions than on yours (kassadin, talon, Leblanc, Alistar, Nidalee). Well, Yasuo is very risky on its own, being a squishy melee whose only way to deal damage is to jump in the middle of everything and whose only way to escape from threat is to kill it or to walk away. Maybe that extra 1 sec knockup, but almost all knockups have counterplay except Vi's but unlike her yasuo isn't immune to CC or tanky.

4 He is just overloaded in numbers, therefore you get great results with low efforts (like TF or Janna's Old passive, Wukong, Fizz, Braum). This may be the main reason people ban him. But this kind of champs usually stomp Yolo Q and have very high win rates and not yasuo's, that actually decreases his WR in higher leagues as people learn how to deal with him (focus? cc? coordination?) faster than people learn to master him.

So, he is complex but has counterplay an therefore he doesn't deserve nerfs.