Talk:Poacher's Knife/@comment-973379-20141115231755/@comment-973379-20141118100943

250 gold for a 60 sec 50% slow 160 true damage targeted ability? Sign me in.

250 gold for extra 350 bonus true damage from ult on WW(smite and his ult even have same CD)? Shut up and take my gold

We have 4 camps with 100 sec cd each - so if you'll clear all of them in perfect order you will get 2 stack of devourer per minute. Or around 30 stack to 30 minute mark from jungle monsters(you need to do other thing sometimes and you won't have those 2250 to buy it right away ofc). It's 15 kill/assist worth of stacks. Ok, I can live with(or, ehm, without) this, since all those line kills, teamfights etc will give anough stacks anyway and ADC tend to farm all and everything(jungle included) from midgame.

And no, health return is insignificant(any self-respecting non-tank jungler can heal fast from jungle anyway and tanks have warmog's which will regen 3 times better in season 5) and 20 bonus gold every minute or so in late.. not impressed. Both are good early game items, no doubt, but not in mid/late.

And "jungler item that will cause you to lose line".. well - 20% reduction from enemy carry and bonus 30 true damage from aa every minute(for 6 second).. There is no way Lucian or Vayne could use that. Really. No way.