Talk:Shen/@comment-4949668-20120515131108/@comment-92.36.204.36-20120515200305

if you want tank alistar is better,if you want support alistar is better early,shen supports better late tough he isnt bad early

shen overall is great support more tanky than other supports and not bad heal (heal on shen himself is neglectable due to low %hp but on others with much lower hp its seen clearly at late game) with teleport shield,though overrated dmg and tankyness

shen gets countered by madreds bloodrazor heavily or any % dmg,geting too much mr to counter madred will leave you weak to ad,unlike alistar who as tank can walk freely under turret cleanse cc with ulti and tank even better and throw kills to team in easier way than blitz can

overall overrated champ as tank