Talk:Lissandra/@comment-5791947-20130504052717/@comment-9008617-20130505161952

@Mineko:  Yes, Mineko, the issue about spell range vs AA range was addressed in the 3 posts literally just before yours...

Also, I was using Ezreal's AA range as an average standard. However, if you want to use the longest AA range as the standard to compare Liss' Q range then Liss' effective Q range is only 25 shorter than the longest AA range in the game and that's ignoring the additional range from shattering. No one is saying that the additional range triggers regardless of a hit or not like Grave's ult, but rather it is an option if you can line up a shot vs a minion or another champ.

Glacial path itself doesn't snare for 3 seconds... Ring of frost only snares for 1.5 seconds and her ult stuns for 1.5 seconds. However, a rooted/snared target can still attack and cast spells.

No one's saying that her Q is OP, rather there's a bunch of whiners saying that it's UP. Personally I think the skill itself is balanced given it's somewhat "shorter" range granted its CC and AoE wave clearing ability but her kit is OP.

But if you want to compare it to other skills... Zed's razors and Xerath's arcanopulse don't produce any CC, LeBlanc's chain although slows and has greater range doesn't serve the same purpose because it doesn't wave clear and has a much higher CD and therefore cannot be spammed as often, and Khazix's upgraded void spikes are probably the closest to Lissandra's Q due to the slow and AoE but again somewhat different and double the CD.