Talk:Sejuani/@comment-212.10.53.147-20130111005204/@comment-69.141.8.150-20130114081540

"Amumu gets beaten up hard in the new jungle until he builds armor."

Do you even lift? He gets free passive AA reduction from E and clears even better thanks to machete.

"Nautilus gets flat-out raped and is a joke until he piles on some mid-tier items and gains level 7-8."

It's really not as bad as you think it is, plus his ganks are still top tier. Even if he he doesn't kill he forces a flash 100% of the time.

So, Amu with his AA reduction and Naut with his shield both get torn up in the jungle according to you but Sejuani with nothing like that is fine because...

"Spirit Stone + Philosopher's Stone allows for incredible sustain."

Because you put off getting actual items for quite some time apparently. Don't get both these items together. You're hurting your mid game BY A LOT. Buy one or the other, save your cash for a giants belt or begin building Aegis. Don't buy what is essentially 1500 on regen, buy some because you'll have to but putting off items that actually help you gank or absorb damage is completely ineffective.