Talk:Lee Sin/@comment-158.75.82.38-20121023220059/@comment-15562896-20121023231938

That's the feeling I have too when I play him, Skarner and Jarvan frequently. He's decent-ish but most bruisers / initiators are much better.

He's scary if he was top and snowballed his lane or if he was jungle and did really well - but even then, as jungler he'll still need support to do literally anything -, otherwise not so much.