Talk:Karma/@comment-14081808-20150529015217/@comment-25223119-20150529022621


 * facepalms at New Karma fans* *facepalms again*

You guys sure don't understand one thing. FrostyShots is clearly saying New Karma has lost her old flavors post changes. R-W looks good but gives her no purpose now that she lost some dueling power. The upfront .9 AP ratio changes nothing and will still be a more frequently used skill in laning than anything else.

R-E losing the damage component means Karma can't get Mantra off from cooldown. And she has less guaranteed way of dealing damage. Karma is now forced to rely on R-Q, which justifies the passive scaling buffs but doesn't make her late game any stronger.

The late game is now a possibilty but does not impact her power in any way. It just means she'll have to throw more R-Q to carry a team, hope that it hits everyone.

There's something you New Karma fans don't see and probably never will. Karma traded in some late game strength and really odd utility for less consistency and reliability. On top of that, she has lost much versatility and no longer retains what is unique of her. I will not drag Old Karma in for "nostalgic" purposes, I'll only say that New Karma fans are undoubtedly one of the most uncaring fans who takes whatever Riot feeds them like pigs in a barn and slap it with the "Hakuna Matata" saying. People are more excited about Jungling Karma, the new Soulfiare, increased messy utility and care nothing Karma things like fans and Shield Bomb.