Talk:Shyvana/@comment-10958525-20130710094226/@comment-8468980-20130711065958

"Even for AP junglers AS marks are superior for clear speed (maybe except fiddle, lol)."

No, it's just that jungle creeps don't have MR making Mpen redundant, nor does AP help shyv's true clearing tools much.

AP's actually pretty good on junglers like Diana or Cho.