Talk:Gragas/@comment-114.77.203.242-20110726052829/@comment-206.112.75.239-20110804143834

I'm with the second poster here. If you have 4000 HP (lvl 18, RoA, Rylai's, Banshee's, Aegis...) then it is only giving you 80 HP4 per ability. That is damn near useless. Compare to a good passive like Jax's that gives massive amounts of HP or Vayne's that gives 40 MS while moving towards enemies. I would rather have Cho'gath's passive.