Talk:Renekton/@comment-64.121.106.39-20120928140533/@comment-4929329-20120929232553

Well then we can change the ratios and base damage to be more acceptable! Since Renekton already teeters between OP and UP, working in the opposite direction (OP) is the only option we have :P

Due to how AD -> AP works in terms of items, that 0.8 ratio on Cull the Meek actually WEAKER than Vlad's 0.6 ratio on Transfusion, and it becomes EQUAL when it's empowered. I also did the math a little while back and Vlad's heal ratio is just more consistent, it's better when laning, but a little worse vs champs.

Renekton currently has a poor design where building items to make his W and E strong outweighs whatever power his Q gives to him. Since Q is good for laning, we take it first. Seriously, just grab a Vamp Scepter and BAM, W and singular autoattacks heal more than Q does. He NEEDS something to happen between his Q and W. I mean, if you understand what I'm saying, you could give us more ideas too, but I understand that you've been here while I've been on the Evelynn page for a long time :P