Talk:Shyvana/@comment-39.47.149.7-20111230201226/@comment-88.186.19.90-20120101151444

Well she 1). doesn't have mana and  2.) needs to use her abilities to fight (as opposed to say, Caitlyn or Tryndamere who cast their abilities when they need to and not everytime they can). That's pretty much the definition of an AD caster for me.

Read what I wrote, I said Shyv was NOT a bruiser but WAS a DPS tank. Bruisers go pick on the opposing carry, tanks just do shit to the entire enemy team and they can't be focused because they have too muh HP/resistances, Cho'gath CCs the opponents, Mundo just never dies and Shyvana deals a rape-level of damage.

And Shyv is less efficient than Nocturne at focusing carries. Nocturne can dash with his Q and ignore enemy collision, has a way of actually keeping the carry in his range with fear and Q boost, can ult to the carry if he's too far away and has a built in banshee's veil to prevent that stun that'll give the opponent breathing room. Shyv deals 100% AoE damage in dragon form and has above average base resistances, why wouldn't you use them? You can go and focus the opposing carry, and sometimes it's what you should do (since this is metagame talk), but the most obvious and straightforward use for her is in the middle of the fight dishing pain. Play the champions before you comment.