Talk:Lee Sin/@comment-24.94.21.33-20120610111554/@comment-166.248.81.158-20120615060520

^^ soooorta. TSM tends to like that in their team, and it works well sometimes.

The basic issue is more that Shyv, Mundo, and Udyr all offer clear times which are sooooo much faster, meaning that Lee starts behind in an MLG match, and udyr's ganks can be almost as good, with the right comp. Shyv and mundo are eh, but great team fighters that carry well into the late game, which is more what the pros strive for anyway. (not that they try to lose the early game, they just assume that games are gonna hit the 50 min mark and everybody will be 17-18 with good gold and it'll come down to late game) Not exactly true in my experience as soloq.