Talk:Riven/@comment-112.204.133.106-20130311145018/@comment-112.204.141.158-20130313121752

I mean in Diamond and above.

Outfarmed, outharassed, and when you all in (which is about all you can do), she will ult bait your Wind Slash (Kayle's is instant, Riven has cast time) and then beat you to death.

Even if you manage to kill the rare-retarded-Kayle pre-6, she will still win lane 95% of the time when she comes back. Kayle ult cd < Riven ult, btw.

Shuts you down in teamfights too, regardless if you win lane or not.