Talk:Garen/@comment-76.92.184.123-20120509184347/@comment-76.92.184.123-20120511021923

You have NOT provided good reasons. You needing ignite to finish off players because you ulted too early is a failure of your skill, not Garen. If anything, you should be using it before you ult for it's healing negation, but that's difficult to do since you can't cast while spinning hence why I wouldn't recommend it.