Talk:VPBE/@comment-1138914-20150213175017/@comment-24896347-20150214015340

The 20%AP reduction on his ult won't really affect him that much. Only against AD champions will it affect, but against ap champions he still practically deals 80% of there ap as damage...so like...I think we can agree that veigar will be able to one shot an AP. Also, he now can get more AP when using his Q which is insanely good.

So lets do some math

Lets veigar kept farming his Q till he hit lv6 before this change, he would get about somewhere inbetween 20-30 bonus AP maybe less or maybe more. Now he can get 50-60 bonus AP or even more with these changes.

So if we were to take away all the AP that veigar buys or gets from masteries and runes and just left is as bonus AP from his Q

Before the changes it will get about 24-36 Bonus Damage from the AP he gained.

With these changes, he can get about 50-60 Bonus damage which is much, much more then before.

Now lets say veigar got to 1000AP

Before the changes his ult would get 1200 Bonus damage

But now it will get 1000 Bonus damage

But he will be able to get that 1000 Bonus damage even faster because of how fast he can farm ap now.

Nerfs? I don't think so, it looks like an early game powerspike to me.