Talk:Twisted Fate/@comment-4900160-20121005085607

* Break the meta: Full Hybrid TF:

Zerker's, Triforce, Nashor's, Rageblade (Yes, Rageblade Motherfucker), Gunblade, Defensive item (Banshee's/GA).

+ Surprisingly high Damage Output

+ Better Synergy with TF's Kit than full AD build

+ Abilities actually deal some damage and heal you through spell vamp

+ Insane ganks, even from botlane TF can still gank effectively mid and jungle

+ Makes much more sense than AD Kennen (look closely, make some maths, it IS better)

'''+ Contrary to AP build, Hybrid has both some burst damage AND very very good sustained damage, making you a very good duealist. What's more, you can heal from both Lifesteal AND spell vamp, further increasing your 1v1 potential.'''

+ You benefit from Phage proc as a nice bonus AP TF doesn't have.

'''+ Nashor's tooth is fairly cheap and gives you a nice increase in damage output, provided you maxed E first. It also means you will always have 40% CDR even without blue buff or elixir, greatly increasing your poke potential through your Q, as well as giving your Ult a 72s CD, all of that with ONE item. I recommend stciking with Stinger for early game and building some lifeteal and damage before finishing the Tooth.'''

+ Split damage (Harder to counter you with resistances) =D

- Split damage (Harder for you to build Arm/MR penetration) D=

- More utility, but less damage than your usual full AD carry (not by a huge amount, but still less is less)

- Reliant on AS, Champs such as Lee Sin or Malphite will ruin your day

- Squishy, few escape mechanisms. I recommend Ghost/Flash for better chasing AND escaping.

- Worst problem: You will have to endure a lot of flame from your teammates if you end up failing. That's the price for breaking the meta. You WILL get reported.

''PS: I have seen some TF players build On-hit with some success, though I think Teemo will always be the only champion who can use it properly and get away with it in Summoner's Rift, even by late game. There is no point in doing it with other champions, and the build I just mentionned above beats On-Hit both in terms of damage, utility and health sustain.''