Talk:Garen/@comment-6048945-20130313173823/@comment-190.98.13.183-20130316010603

Why do people keep calling Garen tank........yes he's tanky but he's not even viable as a tank (no hard cc, debuff, passive aoe dot). When you build him main tank all you are doing is being unkillable while your team wipes and you clean up and waste the gold on tank items.

Just picture yourself running around being ignored and taking the kill with your ult which could have done better things for one the carries. You need to learn to balance your HP and dps.

He was and (partly) still is out of balance; all you needed was 1 warmog and offensive items and you were ripping ppl to shreds while maintaning your tankiness. The BotRK balanced it out. Now you actually need to learn to time your W if you wanna live through a shitstorm.

In my experience you need to flank the enemy carry and just press W; if the enemy burn cc on you thats a win but you need to focus on the carry. No matter what believe me he won't play "I hit you you hit me" with you, he will fucking run with his BotRK. And if his teammates collapse on you and you timed your W (and you have the solo lane farm you're supposed to have) while they burn everything on you, you would still have about enough hp to run at the carry. Besides it's not like you're 1v5 you have a team, they can jump in after your initiation and enemy burn everything(if there is a main tank let him do it). You could die (or not) but teamfight won.

TL;DR

Just focus the guy that does most damage (to you) so he wastes dps running away while your team counter-collapse them.

p.s If your underfarmed, don't do this.

Try not to charge from vision if it can be helped (e.g from the front).

Remember to play with ghost.

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