Talk:Jarvan IV/@comment-15562896-20120502010335/@comment-15562896-20120502011740

His ganks are indeed great (probably the best ganker out there), but I don't think a champion can be OP simply because he has such strong ganks.

I can ruin lanes all day but still lose games. I mean a few days ago I played a game as Lee Sin where I lost going 13/4/9 (died 3 times in teamfights which we all lost), I ganked and killed every single guy on the enemy team, denied Rammus almost every single buff, killing him in the process three times, but still couldn't carry teamfights.

If I had 13/4/9 with basically any other bruiser I would have won the game by myself by killing instantly both enemy carries on my own.