Talk:Vayne/@comment-3546228-20151012015758/@comment-35229418-20151012134606

That's the problem, Oda: other Marksmen need a support to go well with them. Vayne doesn't.

About Draven, he's all autoattacks. After 6 Vayne shits on him simply because you can't attack someone you don't see. Now you'll tell me "support with pink ward/red trinket upgrade" and, well, we'd end up on the above argument. You need a support and an ADC just to beat Vayne. Basically, if all other ADCs and all supports count as 1, Vayne counts as 1.5. 2 > 1.5, but Vayne has a support too, and then, 2 < 2.5.

But I don't even know why I'm still discussing this instead of waiting for the Marksmen rework. Hell, I think I'll just play only drafts to ban Vayne everytime so that I can forget the abomination that she is until something is done.