Talk:Riven/@comment-5878487-20140915000252/@comment-25561936-20141020181353

Use the victory bush. All bushes are victory bushes. You'll find simply moving the minion wave closer up towards the bushes and walking in and out to cs will cause her to panic. You should be able to force a fight on her very early: for instance, at level two if you don't hear her emoting about silver bolts, she has condemn. If she doesn't, then jump on her and get her real low. You should be able to flash/ignite for a kill at level 3 or slightly before that. If she starts with condemn, you can jump on her as well because she can't return a lot of damage AND the mana cost of condemn+tumble can only be repeated one more time at level 3. You should be able to engage on her when her mana is lower than 90.

With Nid, it's all about spear dodging and jumping on her at the right time. However, if you die once to a jungle gank or she kills you, you're most likely screwed (if she builds properly). Try to keep in mind the spells they use to get away from you and the ones they use for damage. If you manage to rotate your cooldowns effectively in between these down or uptimes, you should be able to come out on top.