Talk:Pantheon/@comment-87.172.197.115-20120619080448/@comment-87.172.196.109-20120620053858

You can snowball as Garen, as his Tankyness is save enough to protect your stacks into lategame, having a life saving passive and escape on your Q...

On Pantheon you can Snowball bots, but vs players you just wont get your stacks and if you do, they'll take em away at around 20 minutes.

And again, stfu with your l2p comments, I am on his page and bring arguments why I consider him a waste of my IP, if you want to say I am stupid and he's that good and not in need for a buff, bring arguments.

Also its isnt really a secret that Pantheon has a okay earlygame, and midgame he can use his ult to gank and even get kills. However, thats not a point in balancing an Assasin (imo) since even a fiddlesticks with 0 damage and just his q used would ensure a kill as well in a gank, panth just travels there faster - all 2 Minutes. -.-

He is a AD Caster, those usually have the ability to buily tanky (as they dont need atk-speed) or dash out lethal blows at a high-risk- high reward playstyle. Pantheon has none of those, if his Q would be a fireball, his E a flamethrower, his W a bash with a spellbook and his innate a spellshield with AP ratios all around he'd be a nice mage - since AP ratios are way easier to get and bring tankyness along.

And please Stop giving me the crap of his R as huge utility, you cant join a fight with it unless the enemys suck bad, in competetive play they even dodge your skillshots while they see your champ entering the animation NO ONE would stand into a big circle and wait for a suprise... usually they'd push your team back (= you're a free kill) or just go back. You can jump down a lane if a low hp enemy goes back, but again you'd only win vs noobs with it, as good players are aware of it.