Talk:Vi/@comment-174.57.250.57-20130130223147/@comment-5.83.71.124-20130131034059

Kit is good, but as much as OP... Meeeeh.

There are far better tops and junglers who can shut her early, giving her a hard time to scale into late stages of the game. This, however, doesn't means she will not do that, even for being an AD caster she is actually strong lategame. But, if shutted down earlier, and with a good team focused in not letting the enemy mend themselves, she should not have the chance to get back into scene.

Now, anybody spamming Q for farming is going to go low on mana, same goes for E, thus becoming vulnerable. As said before, there are far better tops and junglers, so sometimes she will not even want to go near you if you know what you're doing (Trust me, I've never lost against Vi. Never. Ever. And I'm not a pro or sort, I can swear you that). The AS on her W is irrelevant because no respectable Vi build is going to stack it, rather the disturbing point is her armor reduction (Which is not the same as ArPen). Problem? She has to stack the effects, which means going melee. Sure, she has two gap closers, but the first one is easily dodged, and if she commits that mistake some characters can burst her down and make her regret it. Still, the armor reduction is good, but it's not that far better. Renekton per example has a better armor reduction, and nobody makes the mistake of considering him OP.

Her E is the bread and butter of her kit. You can't touch that, without it she would not be an original character, but rather another common aa-modifier user. It's good for harrasment, but that requires very good positioning, and if used to duel, you have to spend both shots to deal a good damage earlier. Of course, her whole kit grows better lately, but that happens with everybody!

Finally, her R. The so much hated ulti. Malph fanboys hate it, carry-players hate it, whatever. She's still targetable during it, and with a good disengage ability you can actually slow it, taking Vi away from her positioning. It can't be used as freely as it seems because, well, even if you could neutralize the AD carry, you will be in a bad spot, and the whole enemy team will eat you.

All in all, her kit is strong, yes, but actually balanced, and with skill it gets nullified. She's too predictable to not even use that against her.