Talk:Sion/@comment-25532677-20150903043038/@comment-26044269-20150905120504

"Not being stupid in this situation means sitting back and not getting killed. Still means losing a lane." You think this because you're obviously not adept at Sion. The misinformed can spout all they want, but that does not cause for their statements to be true.

"Just go over the kit: Both are melee, no advantage to either. Riven hits harder, advantage riven." Sion also tanks better, hence the aforementioned statement has no argumentative value whatsoever.

"Both have shields, start about the same, the math causes riven's to be better mid, sion's better late. We're discussing laning, later doesn't matter. Riven, again." Sion's shield also detonates to deal damage, allowing for it to be very potent in early trades. Comparing half an ability to a complete one causes for the quoted argument's worth to be fictitious, to say the least.

"Sion relies on his Q for damage and CC, cancelling it early to guarantee damage only slows - the slow can be ignored. channeling it longer gets it interupted. Gets sion nothing. she has 2 interrupts. even if she doesn't she can dash to avoid it. 85% of the time: advantage riven." If a Riven is immediately capable of interrupting Sion's Q, it implies that the two are in combat in the subject scenario; if the Q's channel can be concluded prematurely to guarantee damage, then the Riven is not guaranteed to directly gain anything of positive value from this. You have mistaken the fact that Sion is not guaranteed a knock-up for every one of his Qs as an advantage for Riven.

"which brings us to the shout. skill shot. vs someone with 4 dashes. a skill shot with a slow. vs someone with 4 dashes. 4 dashes that aren't affected by slows. even if she's hit by it, she doesn't have much of a problem. And even that is 15% of the time." Here you imply that Sion's E may only be used for retaliation, and this alone makes for the quoted argument to be null.

Seriously, I remember the days when Riven enthusiasts actually tried to make valid arguments. And mind you, I am not a Sion savant; saying so would be an insult to all Sion mains out there.