Talk:Trundle/@comment-10181887-20130615144755/@comment-6281755-20130616152754

Trundle is a strong jungler, but he has his flaws:

- Frozen domain can be seem through walls, making catching him at camp easy.

- Pilar is fairly difficult to use, and you might sometimes even saves enemies with it.

- No gapclosers

- No hard CC

- Ganking mid is weaker than top or bot(no walls to pilar next to)

UPSIDES

+ Fast and sustained

+ Great duelist and counterjungler

+ Great turret diver

+ Not realy item dependant but benefits hard from Visage and Botrk

+ Great lategame

+ Tanky even when building damage, high(ish) damage when building Tanky

IMO trundle is waaay better solotop, especially as a counter pick.

Some "OP" yolotops like Aatrox and Yorick  lose to The Troll king hard.

In teamfights overall

Good against


 * High resist or high Hp tanks(ult)


 * AD based champs(Q)


 * Non blink/dash champs(Pilar and Q)

Bad Against

-Sustain tanks(Ww for example)

- AP champs

- Hard to catch champs