Talk:Udyr/@comment-9013810-20130719181550/@comment-5763148-20130720044510

Phoenix is in no way weak. In fact it is much more effective than Tiger Early to Mid Game. The issue is that it drops off at late game so u need damage gears like Wit's End or a Spellblade Item. It has decent AP ratios in which Udyr can use to boost its damage, but there aren't many AP items that really benefit Udyr's general performance and can in fact create more drawbacks than benefits.

Don't go assuming that Phoenix is 'weak'. Phoenix already has 2 types of damage output while Tiger only has one and Tiger is easily blocked by a variety of skills.