Talk:Cull/@comment-26103711-20151113084926/@comment-4159507-20151113103011

Now now, that's hardly fair.

For the first 15', Cull < Doran.

After 15', assume that nothing is wrong (like your support can't protect you/their botlane prevent you from reaching your dream), you sell your Cull, get (400 + 100 + 180) = 580g. Do note that Doran have gold value of 603.

So, yes, (Cull - Doran) = 400g, but only when Doran is sold. I have seen many game over with AD still holding on their Doran.

Plus, you lost 20g/cs...Are you sure that you won't be zoned and lost 10 cs or more? 20 cs or 1 kill and the discussion is irrevelant. Oh and, the first dragon too.

With all that talk, may be I will try this item on Kog'maw/Lucian/Graves. They might be able to balance the 80hp difference with 3 hp/hit.