Talk:Riven/Strategy/@comment-35.46.16.221-20121121150645/@comment-4834593-20121126200627

Old Black Cleaver: No way, you use abilities, not autoattacks, so the armor reduction works after some time, and the attack speed not at all.

New Black Cleaver: First or second item, jump into enemy team, full combo, they just all lost 25% of their armor.