Forum talk:Neekerivittu/@comment-10354824-20131017093843/@comment-13160526-20131019200528

Faker would do good even without zed.

Talon has less range then the current Zed and he cannot easily go throgh the first line as other assassin can, but he is indeed the fastest champ to use his burst, no questions.

I agree on Vi's damage, she's my favorite jungler, give me one kill and i return with brutalizer skipping tank stuff, after that i pretty much wreck anything, i always take at least BC and BotRK on Vi then go full tank and yes i can kill adcs pretty easy, ult, BotRK and just use all your spells, if i get ahead enough Trinity force is just overkill on her, i can pretty much kill anything in a one 1vs1 in a matter of seconds.

In 1 vs 1 scenario, Zed can kill even when people use Zhonya or Qss, my problem are teamfights, if you get denied there you die, period, you just don't wait your cd to kill the after zhonya guy \ qss, you die.

Zed needs that huge burst, if his damage was exactly the enemy squishy HP barrier would be more  OP then it is now and orianna would be banned more then ever if you plan to take an assassin as her shield can already ruin Zed\random ignites let alone if he did less damage.

Kha'Zix's early damage is null compared to other assassins, especially when you need to watch for your mana costs, he works like katarina, if he gets kills he grows stronger in teamfights if he doesn't he cannot really jump from target to target.

Are you seriously going to buy QSS just to remove Fizz's shark or DFG from ahri?

Meanwhile Zed relies HEAVILY to burst an adc down (Keep in mind, burst, something fast so you don't stand there like an idiot getting killed by his teammates) Fizz just needs his basic spells to oneshot any squishy with lich bane, it's amazing how he just presses W-Q to kill someone lategame, his ult is not even necessary to secure a kill, it add alot of damage if you land it right tho, but it's all bonus.

Ahri can just kill squishies with DFG-Fox fire-Ult, her nerfs are justified so now she actually needs some skill to secure a kill instead of mashing buttons, you miss your strongest ability? You pay for it, hit skill shots get rewarded more then autotargetting things and killing stuff with ease.

This change for Zed is just awful and doesn't solve the fact he can snowball by farming instead of Killing, hence why this nerf won't make him unplayable but completely antifun for the players who mained him since the start as the new playstyle has less skill involved and more risk since you are forced to a location to escape, he has less mobility and chase power and too much W wasting as i cannot gap close into ult anymore if i want energy refunds, damage, cd reduction, slow.