Talk:Nocturne/@comment-2179912-20121202011107/@comment-83.196.94.64-20121204001402

actually riven is bad against darius,  she loses the trade dammage early on and sadly once he hits level 6 she'll lose them even more

you can  try to win lane against darius with riven if you have a good jungler since she's good to follow up on ganks and snowballs hard, once you have the advantage on darius in lane he can't do sheit since he is all in

the counters in melee against darius (from those i play):

udyr: sustain and outdamages darius in first levels ( his tiger at level 1 makes him stronger than darius at level 1 ) and turtle  is awesome against no sustain champs

garen:  you actually outdamage darius at level 1 with AA+ Q refresh+AA and then leave using the ms boost to avoid getting  too many stacks, the Q nukes early

after that you just abuse your shield  on his decimate  and silence + spin on him after

i start doran's shield and use  hp regen quints and the regen masteries on garen,   with his passive  he's nasty with those runes and a doran,  since you have a doran darius can't take frontal fight + you have too much sustain for him, easy lane

olaf works fine too if you aim the axes well

(and ofc teemo and kayle shit on darius)

but to be honest  i think garen is much worse for a darius than a teemo or kayle because he can frontally 1v1 him so it's better for 2v2 with junglers