Talk:Viktor/@comment-89.69.142.30-20111215142712

I like that W, AoE slow -> AoE stun + huge bonus cd, mana, mana regen for early game, seems like nice support possibility despte being only a mage. E with bonus passive will be devastating for most mid early game: 45+3ap[Death core]+34ap[flat ap runes, all but marks]+15ap[doran ring] and 5% bonus from masteries gives nearly 102ap at first lvl with magic pen marks, basicly this champ could have about 113ap if he starts with tome and have flat ap marks.

Lets take situation when u gave 102ap at start + 8,55 magic pen from marks and 10% from masteries[this reduce common 30mresist to 19,3mresist[reduce incoming magic damage by 16%]] By using E on lvl 1 u have 70+0.7*102=141 magic damage so u deal nearly 118 dmg plus 30% of 141[i think from this] over 4s so 42 [36dmg after reduction] giving us 154 dmg dealt[183 magic dmg]. Oh and this damage is dealt on cone, not single target. 183/154 AoE magic damage on first level, its just ridiculus, this is about 1/3 health of most mages at first lvl. Now imagine 1lvl team battle on buff. Next on level 2 u can level up Q, and gain 3ap from passive and 1ap from masteries[gained per level] so you have 106ap. Now W deals 144magic damage + 43magic damge over 4s and Q deals 149magic damage. We now have 293 magic damage+43magic damage over 4s[246+36=282 damage dealt] into one taget also gaining shield from Q[40% of 149*84% gives 50 shield], with reduce a bit damage taken in return after this combo. Quite big damage. Victor Q+E: 70+0.7ap+80+0.65ap+0.3[70+0.7ap]=171+1,56ap

I know this damage is comparing to for example: Victor Q+E: 70+0.7ap+80+0.65ap+0.3[70+0.7ap]=171+1,56ap, looks quite hard to dodge Anivia Q+E:60+0.5ap[or 120+1.0ap]+110+1.0ap=170+1.5ap[or 230+2.0ap]+stun!, but Q is easy to dodge Xerath E+Q:70+0.6ap+75+0.7ap=145+1.3ap+stun!, also Q can be dodged

This place Victor, acording to values on this page by date 15 december 2011, as strong pick for mid with his damage[next to Anivia, Brand or Malzahar]. Sadly his power will fall in late game cause of one item slot less. Also his W slow->stun and E+ultimate AoE, gives him monster usefulness in team fights.