Talk:Stark's Fervor/@comment-3281167-20110204004125/@comment-3246656-20110228222927

In the most optimal build for Ren you will already have sufficient armor pen by the time you get a bcleaver. A more effective investment would be in bloodthirster, as 3/4 of ren's abilities scale on AD, or wiggle's, if the other team is highly capable of ganking you the free ward+AD+lifesteal all at a cheap price is invaluable.