Talk:Nocturne/@comment-5130019-20120724193721/@comment-80.15.143.26-20120725150645

this allows a faster jungle since max armor on creeps is 20 ( in jungle)   so true damage with  masteries

i prefer 31 arpen

at the beginning especially, i like to rush a brutaliser  and with the 46 arpen  and decent base damage with Q you deal a lot of damage , then again that's just my point of view on it

10% AS won't change much on ganks  arpen will give more burst,    so it's clearing time vs   gank damage , not really big difference though

late AS might be better once people stack armor

i think you need a youmuu on nocturne though, first for the gp/5 item and second for the MS boost to   fear and  catch

witht his build i think going for  AS glyph could be good, you'd lose mr on late game but your early will be pretty strong with the big AS boost