Forum talk:Neekerivittu/@comment-79.243.167.90-20121102202339/@comment-84.192.133.237-20121102233501

- anyone who plays talon knows hes all about burst and abilities. his passive is worthless, and his q is also an ability, adding to his burst. it shouldnt count as an autoatack, as it's only use it to increase his burst.

-riven has a ton of dmg on her abilities 3.1 scaling with only her q and w. thats more than zed's full combo, and dont try to tell me shes all about her passive, cuz yes that passive is important, but you clearly dont know how much her abilties hurt.

- garen... well... is a tank