Talk:Quinn/@comment-24711193-20151031022803/@comment-25223119-20151102074720

Is that how you came to give up on Karma too, and eventually let a bunch of snobs take away the Karma we like, even what's left of her? And you became just like one of them, using "move on" as a justification?

There's always proper ways of moving on, the Quinn changes by no means move on, they are simply "Hey, you don't like it, you leave it". These are things that push away players even more and how people came about to the assumption that Riot does whatever they want, which is quite frankly true. The only time things matter is when Riot comes in and lay their logic down.

Yes, change is imminent. But this is your chance to make the change happen the way you want it to be, or how other players want to be. That's what PBE boards are for, they are for you to vocally express your opinions and feedbacks and if you don't like something, and that something is equally unliked by many, then get to it and do some ground work to voice out. Don't just be like "It's Riot and I can't do anything". Especially for the Quinn players, and like I said, if you don't main her, whatever you say will not work either way.

There is nothing depressing about being hung up about a champion you like. The game is ever changing and changes are bound to happen, but it should never come at the cost of removing something so profound and important about a champion ie: Valor or Karma. It isn't about dwelling either, it's about letting Riot know that they work isn't appreciated. You can change a champion all you want but if it comes at the cost of the player base, it speaks no success of your rework. New players will come in to fill the spot, but the very fact is your rework chased the old ones away, there is nothing indicative of a successful update/rework right there.

Like I said again, the changes just started and players can choose whether they want to keep what they hold dearly of a champion or let it go. And if you don't main Quinn, put down your "stop dwelling and move on" advice and learn to respect the wishes of Quinn players. And don't say it's depressing because it really isn't. You can ruin the Karma fanbase as much as you want to, but don't ruin another fanbase that you don't belong in. Observe from the side if you were never a dedicated Quinn player to begin with.

No matter how kind your intentions are, your words just aren't cutting it. And it's simply better that you speak less about it before more wounds are inflicted.