Talk:Nocturne/@comment-4290320-20131026183415/@comment-8468980-20131030194257

ok so the real differences:

Vi: Great bruiser with great early game-mid game ganks due to Q and R. She can gank as soon as she has a point in Q which is a big deal if you have good opportunities. Her R serves as a pseudo initiate in team fights but if used unwisely will simply leave you stranded out of position. Her inherent attack speed, armor shred, and percentage max hp damage allow her to be a threat to squishies even when she has few or no damage items.

Nocturne: Decent ganks pre 6, fantastic ganks post 6. Solid bruiser but lacks standard bruiser tools like armor shred and percentage hp damage that would allow his bruiser build to scale well throughout the game. Instead, he gets free AD which synergizes well with AD gear which when combined with his ultimate and spell shield grant him the option to dish out lots of damage should he get fed early on. It can be VERY easy to launch an unwise ult with Nocturne. Make sure you can either explode your target and that it grants your team objectives OR your team mates can initiate for you and you can use this to close the gap. Have a good idea how quickly you can chunk your opponent and how quickly they can chunk you BEFORE you cast ulti.