Talk:Vayne/@comment-190.2.96.143-20110515082455/@comment-3165723-20110516014305

i've never said her true damage makes her op. i may have said its a stupid concept, but never that THAT was what did it for me. its the combination of all the useful utility that she has on TOP of the unmitigateable damage. the fact that, not counting her true damage, she has comparable damage to other carries, so when you add in the extra damage its imba. her range isn't much of a disadvantage in most situations since she can tumble and keep a target away with her E. most of the E's usefulness is not in its stun at all. the only reason malz is balanced is because his ult leaves him wide open for retaliation for several seconds and he doesn't have much of an escape, and his hard CC isnt consistent. vayne has more damage output and more utility/escapeability than every other ranged carry. at least from what i've seen. i haven't much of a problem with her in the games i've seen, mostly because i'm not stupid enough to engage her one on one and quite of few of them are bad. but the few that do well (not get fed, just DO WELL) are ridiculous. maybe she isn't op, maybe i'm wrong, but i have little reason to believe otherwise. yeah, she's squishy, but so is ashe and she can't do nearly as much damage.