Talk:Nidalee/@comment-3475363-20130808114936/@comment-5955640-20130813211644

Not the end of story sir. Lulu doesn't zone all that well suprisingly. Two of her spells require vision of the champ and the only one that doesn't is a very linear skill shot. Easy to dodge in the bush and doesn't have that long a range in comparisons to Nidalee's spear. Zyra has bush control with the plants but Zyra has to be in the bush or fairly close to maintain it. You also have a maximum of two plants to put into the ground. Will you put a seed into the bushes to coerce the enemy support into staying out of the bush or will you actually assist in zoning?

You can't quite do both and you'd have to max the seeds first so the harass ends up being really weak and you run out of mana very fast. The other problem is the lack of mobility. She's one of the slowest champs to play so if your Marksman doesn't maintain a strong zone guess whose's coming to dinner?

You sort of invalidated yourself by throwing in blitzcrank. Really? Dodge the grab and that's all blitzcrank is better than just about anyone with a short cool down poke? It's too bad you've not seen your share of good supports.