Talk:Riven/@comment-84.251.20.14-20120812220956/@comment-46.61.70.198-20120815032012

If by "dealing with fine" you mean "turtling like crazy", that's not fine at all. Riven already outscales most, if not all top bruisers, giving her any slight advantage in farm is just waving goodbye to your victory.

I can tell, unless it's Alistar, or Skarner, or, God forbid, Warwick, she just jukes through brush and bunny-hops to safety. Once again, being squishy is irrelevant when you have Riven's mobility, at least as far as laning/ganking is concerned.

Rumble is one of the best matchups for Riven, and you're trying to say that he counters her. He's melee, has no reliable farming tool, has low burst damage (but very high sustained), and has no CC outside slows. Basically everything it takes to lose versus Riven. If you don't believe me, check one of the mroe recent M5 games. Darien was playing top Riven versus Rumble. He simply decimated him. Granted, that Rumble may have been a much worse player, but bear in mind, this was before the recent Rumble nerf.

Kayle may have an advantage in the early levels, but after Riven gets her double Doran's + Vamp Scepter, good luck to Kayle stayig alive. Once again, no hard CC, no disengage abilities. But at least you can farm under tower, I give you that.

Damn right "we" are hysterical, Riven is the reason I hate playing solo top right now. Every game against Riven, unless the opponent is completely clueless, is annoying as hell, if playable at all. I've tried many champions, many tactics, but most of the time result is the same: Riven gets ahead in farm (if not killing the unfortunate jungler coming to gank), and then just facerolls. I hate this champion, seriously.