Talk:Varus/@comment-98.232.233.104-20120605042845/@comment-4834593-20120607171125

A good Ashe carries games.

A good Varus also carries games.

Ashe needs to land her ult right once or twice in lane. A good Ashe ult is a kill.

Varus just needs to harras with his Q, and then (maybe) hit his ult right to kill the enemies.

They are totally different, and both epic when played well. Varus can't be zoned well with that Q (it deals nice damage at rank 3 already), Ashe can never be escaped, and has the best initiation in the game for a carry.