Talk:Chalice of Harmony/@comment-24985387-20140606234222/@comment-17355839-20140629103732

A lot of midlaners such as Galio, Anivia, Orianna sometimes Diana and Kassadin use chalice as a core item because of the rediculous mana sustain it gives, but it is not an instant buy on EVERY midlane mana champ. Dorans ring gives health, AP and a little bit of mana regen plus the flat passive. Chalice only gives a very tiny amount of MR and a crapload of mana regen. There's no point in having really good mana regen if you can't handle your health in turn in lane. If your enemy takes Doran's ring, they will have an instant health and AP advantage, and they will be able to poke you down, farm, and trade with you better. Mages that can handle not having the AP because of high base damages (usually with high mana costs in return) do have the option to opt for athenes. Do not buy Chalice/Athenes on: Twisted Fate (blue card is more than enough mana) Swain (dorans ring and carrion renewal should keep you over until lategame where mana isnt a problem (tear is better on him anyways))