Talk:Vayne/@comment-8506165-20131102163851

Vayne being so strong is starting to annoy me.

People are just constantly picking her not because they like her, but because they think she's the freelo train. She's like the Riven of botlane. But the thing is, she is strong and if she gets fed then it's nightmare time for the enemy team because you can't deal with a fed Vayne as easily as you can any other fed ADC. Armor? Nope, true damage. Health? Nope, %health true damage. Pin her down? Nope, self peel and high mobility, and every Vayne and their dog gets BotRK for even more of those two things.

It's irritating. The way to deal with Vayne is meant to be "shut her down early" but since BotRK changed... it's just that much harder to do because her core damage item is just 3200 gold, and she can get that by sitting in lane and farming for ten minutes even if she's not gotten any kills or had a few deaths. She gets dangerous faster, and it's easier for her to come back than anyone else. They need to do something about her. She currently outscales every other hypercarry and is safer than a lot of them without any truly "bad" phase. Yeah, she's squishy. So what? She's not so much squishier than any other carry that it really counts as a massive drawback. Were she as peel-dependent as she'd be fine. Maybe she needs 500 range as well...