Talk:Jarvan IV/@comment-3419132-20120518154926/@comment-15562896-20120518221620

Tbh, top lane you can afford Trinity force, go for it. This + Youmuu's make Jarvan's damage ridiculous. As jungler I tend to build him more tanky and usually go for items such as Frozen Mallet instead of Trinity force.

Unless my team has an extremely tanky champion top such as Udyr, but even then I'm not sure I would go TF as jungler. There are chances that solotop Udyr will go TF and won't be as tanky as "my" jungle Udyr, etc. I very often build my Jarvan depending on what my team needs, and initiators usually are jungle or top..unless mid is Galio, and even then I'd like to be rather tanky.

I feel like I need a little AS boost when I'm not going TF, though. Maybe it's because I'm used to play J4 with Trinity Force. That's why I go Wit's End, not sure it is very optimal though.