Talk:Veigar/@comment-4726614-20130622154745/@comment-9463023-20130715160824

A very well farmed and build Veigar, with 1200 ap, which is actually not all that hard to get in a game that is going really smooth (and with Rabadons passive) can deal around: 980 from Q + 1500 from W + 1950 from R + 80% of target's AP.

That's aroung 4,5k damage, not counting the percentage ap, it should be enough even without using DFG.