Talk:Swain/@comment-25122281-20160225102122/@comment-25447003-20160322124934

The nerf hammer hit him hard, and the buffs to other champs make him average now. His win-rates are already under 50% (both mid and top).

Also with the current marksmen meta, not only Vayne but Quinn, Graves, ... can solo lane vs him pretty easy (before only some long range mages can give him hard time). Also other marksmen Lucian, Kogmaw, Draven, Twitch, MF, ... can duel him as long as they have lifesteal items.

In short, Swain sucks now. His damage is not as bursty as LB, Annie, Veigar or Nidalee, with minimum CDR at 8 secs (whilst Annie, Veigar, Ryze, Nid, ... can spam  their skills every 4, 5 secs.

Swain's Q is 8 sec CD which 85%AP, but Annie's Q is 4 sec CD with 80%AP, so it's like 160%AP for 8 sec, which can be a targeted stun. And Swain's Q can be cut damage to 1/3 or 2/3 simply by a dash/MS-boost.

So whilst some people rant about Swain snowball, wait until you face a good Annie or Ryze player :)