Talk:Nocturne/@comment-3342434-20110421195529/@comment-165.130.136.210-20110426045451

i prefered ryze when he could nuke, not this spell vamping junk. sure ryze hits hard, but he's still squishy. where as a nocturne has more natural defenses, and snowballs better.

and the problem with nocturne is even if you and 2 others on your team are good, he'll feed consistently off those 2, and later on feed off all 3 of you. there have been more games where the other team works well as a group where only 1 or 2 others on mine know wtf is going on, and thats where nocturne will be stronger. noc is like a jax, just brutal mid to late game.