Talk:Athene's Unholy Grail/@comment-2095407-20120520220251

I dont get how people seem to believe that and  gives unlimited mana... It is not AA and even AA dan't give unlimited spam. Everyone who plays Veigar and utilizes his innate knows, that a lot of magic regeneration is required to make a use of it. With just base and grail's regen you hardly have decent mana sustain... Not OP at all. Quite a lot of thought and effort have to be put into to have that promissed unlimited mana. But I'll surely get me one of these on my mana casters.

P.S. Just had an easy match. Played aggressively and spammy. Got blue almost all the time. And still got OOM. I have: mana regen masteries +3; mana regen per level yellows +11 @18; two dorans +10; base regen; Blue +25 and % of total mana. So I had total regen that one time I checked +88 mana per 5 seconds. This gives ~17 mana per second. But if one takes is mind that I spend 100 mana on spell with ~3s CD and I spam it a lot, even blue can't solve my mana. In longer fight I get low on mana. And there is a lot more mana hungry champs out there....

In my case of many regen sources Grail might actually give undepletable mana pool. But it requires some effort to amass those sources to make it possibe. I say it is nice item for mana casters but far too silly alone to be held as infinite mana source. And no way OP. You'll see it. Or check it now on PBE ;)

tl;dr :D