Talk:Veigar/@comment-98.234.87.3-20110621202152/@comment-3145151-20110624213212

Wanna make this champ useless?-_-

The strength of Veigar is that he is great counter to squishy AP champions. He doesn't have great AoE damage spell like Malzahar or Anivia does, he doesn't have that DoT. He has nice burst that allows him to kill squishy to normal char in about one second, making battle 5v4 or 4v4(cuz after burst he is kinda useless:p).

When you're playing vs chars like Kassadin, who is taking your carry down(like in my last game with Veigar), you just have to catch him in our stun and quickly burst him down. That's your role. When you see dangerous malzahar ulting your allie - use ult and Q. If you are fed(or enemy is fed enough, or eventually you both are fed) ult will kill or nearly kill your target.

@Page3 - fine, that's great that you can strike your enemy down without being fed, just counting on their AP, but. This is only one skill, called ultimate, has 90s cooldown, and that's your best tool, because you don't have much more. You can't say that champion is OP because of one skill, if rest is kinda useless. Veigar isn't that good. He's fine or even UP.