Talk:VPBE/@comment-23820707-20140723143423/@comment-1138914-20140723193639

I'm no Elise player, I can't deny nor agree with that. But I do now that she is weaker.

LeB lost her silence, but still can deal a shitload of damage. But pure damage, no silence and a skillshot single snare is not enough for competitive, I can say that.

I must disagree with Kayle. She was, if most, nerfed in the past years. Twice more, infact. She wasn't overbuffed, just found out that in the current, less bursty, sustain, high mobility meta, Kayle was a godess. Slow, mv speed buff, heal, and the bullshit ult.

That case, is one of the few indirect buff cases.