Talk:Vayne/@comment-7095057-20150511032743

Now I'd normally not be complaining about Vayne, but lately I've been finding fighting her increasely difficult. It's not even her w that's a problem. It's more as of late I've been seeing Vaynes that can 2 shot people with 2k hp using just a tumble and an auto with her ult. Given her current status and the current state of the game allowing ADCs to easily break 300 AD without trying, is it really worth giving Vayne essentially a few IE every time she ults (mind you that's equivilant to 100 AD with masteries and the like because it does scale with it), especially with her tumble's already 150% AD autos?

This is something I've just been wondering given Vayne's the only ADC I've seen of late capable of 2 shotting other ADCs/Supports/Mages in less than the 3 autos needed to proc her w. Mind you this is normally mid game, not always late, but even late I dont know any ADC that can do that, especially not without an LW. It's litterally been so far ult Q, auto, auto, walk off with the kill.

My personal opinion is that Vayne currently is a bit TOO strong late game. If her defining characteristics as an ADC is a invisible, hypermoving ADC with silver bolts, she shouldn't be able to kill people in less than the 3 shots required to w proc, especially if they have armor or more hp than they normally would. Her W is supposed to be a reward for focusing the right targets, but as it stands her AD bonuses and steriod allow her to completely ignore that part of her kit.