Talk:Gragas/@comment-15562896-20121019150257/@comment-15562896-20121024221113

His lategame sucks really bad without CDR + active from DFG. Active + ult forces a carry out of a fight if not kill him, and CDR allows you to get more barrels off.

Next patch you'll have to build Athene and that's pretty hard to do for Gragas since he kinda relies on snowballing from his strong midgame.