Talk:Kayle/@comment-1876049-20121028112248/@comment-2124153-20121030213545

@ClariS: you are out of your tree.

I bring up the ult because it's ludicrously good out of the support slot. You think that you aren't underselling it, but you are: literally Kayle's existence is justified by her ultimate. If the only thing that you do as support is drop the perfect ult on your carry, you win the fight for your team, all things being equal. The fact that she also heals, peels, and aura supports, is candy.

The "half her kit being used" baloney falls apart under the slightest inspection. Her Q's amp and E's steroid are amazingly useful in the laning phase. You have no leg to stand on by ignoring the early game, since lanes can be won or lost before the first tower even goes down. Does Sona do amazing damage with Q late game? Does Soraka hit like a truck with Starcall? Is Janna's Zephyr a world-destroying offensive force?

Your "kill lane" bit is also baloney. Sure, you can bully with Wukong/Annie/Teemo etc, and they fall off late with no damage... but Kayle is a bully that does NOT fall off late out of the support role. Again: her ultimate, in addition to healing and peeling power.

You crap on her heal, but the fact of the matter is, with 40% CDR she can sustain a push with it. Kayle is not out-pushing the enemy carry, but by the same regard, she's not hopeless when it comes to tower defense, and can actually clear a minion wave or split push without forcing your team to send a dedicated DPS for the job.

Really, your issue with 0 CS support Kayle seems to be that you don't like the playstyle. That's your perogative, do what you like, but you go too far in ignoring her clear advantages, and throwing out silly metrics like "doesn't use half her kit" or other such nonsense.