Talk:Veigar/@comment-132.3.41.68-20110725142623/@comment-3308937-20110725172249

He's too reliant on farming that Q imo, and he needs to choose between harass and farming and if he harasses he loses out in the end due to lack of AP farming

Doesn't help that he's a horrible laner, and if he gets sent mid he'll get crushed by nearly ever common mid out there, unlike nearly every other mage. He has serious mana problems in lane, which cripples him beyond belief, especially in a 2v2 lane where he'd probably have to utilize event horizon a lot.

This all doesn't include the fact that in a fight he's like LeBlanc, without mobility and longer CDs. If someone survives his combo he's next to useless afterwards, the one thing he has on LB is his amazing event horizon (only thing that keeps him near viable imo).