Talk:Udyr/@comment-203.219.88.191-20110719103511/@comment-3165723-20110721184559

^yes, but is a moderate amount of attack damage and AP more important to Udyr than a large amount of attack speed? The only good item for Udyr that grants a decent amount of AS is Bloodrazor, which costs a ton of money.

And i understand phoenix may be a faster jungle stance, but the entire point of jungling is to aid lanes, and using phoenix for a gank is silly, it takes to long for the damage to even matter.

And in my experience, i end up at lower health (at least after blue golem) with phoenix than i would with Tiger since instead of focusing my damage to take the big monsters down quickly, i'm taking them all down simultaneously, but my damage is spread out.