Talk:Elise/@comment-5673176-20131211110618/@comment-8468980-20140203070720

I'm surprised by it Raknut, but I've A LOT of pro players abandon the 9/21/0 build for 21/9/0 on Elise and other higher damage fighters.

I'm not entirely sure why, but I think it deals with the fact that removing the percentage based penetration you could get from sinking 9 points in the S3 offense tree has forced jungle players to rely more on tanky items for their beef so they can get all the juciy damage amps from the S4 damage tree.

I've been hesitant to adopt this notion since organized competitive play is far different from solo Q but it's been the consistent trend since masteries were altered.