Talk:Zyra/@comment-27024822-20151112221305/@comment-4922088-20151120224605

She's always had a problem when played support of overlap between her, Annie, and Janna.

Annie is the most offense-oriented of the two, Janna is the most defense-oriented, and Zyra is kinda in the middle with a slight lean more on the offense side of things.

Really I think she's overall stronger than Annie right now as a "support" because of how much her poke has been buffed (plant AI changes were a massive buff plus new masteries are pretty nice on her) but she will not be picked more than Annie as long as assassins are strong. Annie has some natural defenses in her kit and instant cc to catch assassins off guard with. Not to mention Annie can just about assassinate someone herself late game with the flash-Tibbers combo even as a support.

Zyra can both engage and disengage very well, and has some pretty crazy damage. She's just picked off too easily.

If Riot ever gets around to their "immobile mages update" they were talking about; making them more unique from one another and better justifying picking an immobile mage over an assassin again, I'd love to see her mid. Until then immobile mages will just be stuck in this weird "support" place where their cc makes them viable even through a low-income/low-damage build.