Talk:Maokai/@comment-89.164.173.209-20120823224327/@comment-3486816-20120904061109

^lolwut?

Who the hell are you comparing him to?

He gets off a second/third Q or a second W pretty easily (much more so than say, Rammus or Amumu, to whom he can actually be compared as a jungling tank), and his initiation is amazing. The fact that his CCs are relatively weak (snare, small knockup) is offset by their short cooldowns and his ult.

By the way, if enemies are disengaging from your ult every teamfight, throw it under a tower and walk up and take it with your team. There are areas people don't want to or can't easily leave. Capitalize on that.