Talk:Graves/@comment-88.102.160.74-20120701201234/@comment-78.147.235.64-20120703230844

the poke the OP is refering to is his Q which doesnt really have a mana cost. he is also very tanky due to passive, and can hop over walls, away from ganks etc with his E. his cc is lacking compared to other carries like ashe (no where near the same damage output), varus (0 mobility), vayne (squishy and cc requires a wall). but in a teamfight that smoke bomb can win the fight when well placed. overall he is the most all round carry. the thing i feel makes him slightly op is not his burst or poke or mobility (which ezreal and corki have exactly the same of), its the tankiness. not even being that tanky, but more so that the enemy carry is a huge psychological advantage. carries arent meant to be tanky they are meant to do damage from a distance, while remaining easy to kill if you get to them. with graves he doesnt even need protection from people like kassadin or nocturne because he knows he can fight back.