User blog comment:Emptylord/Blogs/Time-themed abilities/@comment-8100976-20131220160754/@comment-8100976-20131222052204

Hey, you added a few of my things. Huzzah~!

Okay, here's my concerns about Recursive Strike; I cast Recursive Strike on a minion from safety, run forward, harass for free, port to safety. Cast Recursive Strike, flash a wall, enemies follow, I port back. Cast Recursive Strike from a bush, run one direction, blink back to bush, Time Warp and walk away. Cast Recursive Strike from a bush on enemy champion, run free of counter harass range, pop back in my bush to repeat the process.

Okay, so they all have counter-play, if it leaves a mark one could argue that if players don't see it that it's their fault. As a base level ability with minimal down-time and potentially auto-juking (you don't reactivate it and have no control over it, right?) any decent range on this spell makes him an utter nightmare as a bottom lane support its basically free harrass only countered by warding.

@Kygehn: Okay, fair point; the concern would have to be the size of StS and the duration (which I freely admit is a bit stupid as is). Either it wouldn't last as long (I think this is the better option) or you would make is small enough to not fully block people from striking Baron (which is viable, but if you shrink it you somewhat lose the 'block a jungle corridor' that I think is the theme and real power). Dropping the ult on the Baron itself shouldn't be the goal, dropping the ult and trapping the enemy team inside the pit should.

@Grrrbear26: I'm glad you love Delay Doom. A noticeable particle effect would be pretty neat, but given the rest of his kit I'm not sure that giving him faux-Line of Sight utility is fair. I do feel that ideally StS would be used to disengage or engage, likely in the jungle; it would also serve as a form of hard-CC versus channeled ults and maybe anti-siege/dive.

@Emptylord: I hope I expressed my concerns about Recursive in an intelligible way. As for StS it definitely would need a lot tweaking to find a good balance; whether that would be size, damage, or duration I really don't know. Personally, I just feel that Zilean needs an ult that he can use skillfully while being thematic and powerful; Leona, Thresh, Janna and even support Annie all have this in common. Leona's Ult is probably the most satisfying to land perfectly but in a perfect world I would like to see Zilean playable all the way to the professional levels and I think some form of 'game-changer' is the best way to see that.