Talk:Feral Flare/@comment-3546228-20140423102354

The item is not toxic or overpowered, people, and I will tell you why:

1. After the nerf (+200 to the cost of Wriggle's) the item's cost effectiveness goes down further. It was already cost ineffective even prior to the nerf.

Now, if you buy the Wriggle's you set yourself back really hard. A jungler that uses the Spirit Items will get that really nice spike of power way before you do. Going Flare esentially makes you weaker than the opposing jungler for the first 20 minutes of the game.

2. Sure, a Flare with stacks is cost efficient. We have all watched a jungler with 60 stacks, who has 300 cs and has farmed all game wreck faces. But how strong is this really?

A 60 stack flare gives 280 bonus magic damage against minions and 93 bonus magic damage against champions. Not that scary to be honest, at least purely damage wise. Remember that autoattackers use that item and they usually won't have magic penetration items.

3. The item is really good against Super Minions - 280 magic damage from stacks will make you 5 shot super minions and turtle the game further until you get 6 items. I think that's the item's main strength. The damage against champions is purely for late game scaling of the item itself.