Talk:Udyr/@comment-27.253.52.171-20130122103031/@comment-5.83.71.124-20130124124551

@84.251.20.14: Bad? It's one of those offensive-defensive items Udyr loves, and the only one in the game completely focused on anti-magic burst (BV can also help with that, but it's not as much focused as Maw and also doesn't provides both offense-defense stats). Although I agree that it should be get (Or upgraded from Hexdrinker) lately. However, as 58.111.194.238 said, it can be situationally switched for other item.

@IdkiPickedaName: FM fails to get the burst damage from Trinity, while Trinity almost always fails to use the CC FM provides. Iceborn lets you get both of those, just not the HP both can provide. You can't really say FM/Trinity > Iceborn because it's actually a "pick your poison" scenario. However, given that now is easier to get HP from other sources, FM and Trinity are easier to get replaced with Iceborn gauntlet (And that item really shines on a guy with 4 skills that can proc it almost always, with short CD, and that all of them imply using AA to proc their effects).

On the other hand, the other items you recommended pretty much suck on Udyr. You don't really want to go as a carry with a guy that has to go melee and who doesn't has any utility ability more common from carryesque kits (Ranged harrasment/longer CC than Bear/better defensive ability than Turtle/A real gap closer).