Talk:Garen/@comment-81.84.180.202-20120912084054/@comment-5414313-20120913044530

Yeeaaah, that's what I was saying, actually.

Someone laned a Graves against me.

Think outside the box.

Garen counters the meta that was designed to counter the meta, and so counter the counter to the meta that counters the meta.

That said, a good Garen knows how to deal with ranged harass. It's actually not that hard.

Mundo can counter an aggressive Garen, but this lane then becomes a free farm lane for both.

Kayle can harass effectively, but Garen can bait her and stomp her.

Against Garen, it really comes down to who's more skilled. Being more skilled than most Garen players is not that hard to do right now, though, because no one knows how to build him properly yet (I do! Hint: It isn't what I have written below!)