Talk:Vi/@comment-9705522-20130722153631/@comment-5266525-20130803234400

"What windup?" - The three or so second-long windup with the big red circle and laser showing who her target is. 1.25 seconds is the knockup duration. You have more than enough time as a carry to reposition yourself.

"possibly hidden in fog of war?" - This is irrelevant. If they don't have vision on you and you ambush them, then you are not winning because Vi's ultimate is broken, you are winning because they are out of position.

"while you might be 1500 units away" - No, I'm talking about the 1500 units you, as Vi, just crossed by using your Q and ult in quick succession to get from the frontline of your team to the backline of their team.

"your adc will be effectively taken out of the fight" - Your ADC will probably have been left behind during your initiation and may have to burn their gap closer just to follow you up.

"she breaks the false choice category. a mix of both." - No, it isn't. Neither is considered the wrong choice or is obviously worse than the other depending on your situation. At best, she breaks the anti-fun rule, of which she isn't the only one.

"ap yi was definitily not antifun, you just had to know how to deal with him" - You do not even have the faintest clue what anti-fun means if you're being serious here. Stop trying to use Zileas' words when you don't know what you're saying.