User talk:Zelgadis87

CAD Template update
Hey I just wanted to check how was the transition for the format of the CAD template going. Also, after the transition is over can you please check AD page and update it to the new format. Also have you read my message about the Skins Gallery template? Because I am not sure on what talk page I left it lol. Well just add a template so the gallery looks exactly how the Brand Skins page gallery is. 06:48, April 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * For the CAD, as I told you the other day, it's complete but we have to decide the style.
 * For the gallery thing, I just discovered that you can't put a template there.... >_> -- 10:02, April 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * Update: You can't use a template to generate the file names, but you can use a template for the caption.. :/ So instead of writing . I don't think there are any workaround available unfortunately. I still need to add the link to the Model viewer, but for now you check the result on my experiment page. Ttyl. -- 12:47, April 21, 2011 (UTC)

Well i think i added nearly all of the templates to the trivia/skins pages for all the champions. --LoLisNumbaWan 11:59, May 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * Good job man, that surely was a massive task :/ -- 12:05, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

New Project
Hey Zel. I have created a new project that might be on interset to you. You can see it here. I have been thinking about this for a while now, so I finally vreated the page. You are included in the post so you might want to read it. Hope to hear from you soon! 23:01, April 28, 2011 (UTC)


 * AFAIK, only the Lizard Elder, Dragon and Nashor have "abilities". The Elder Lizard applies a DoT (like the one from his buff, but it doesn't slow). Dragon reduces the ASPD of the champion that aggroed him. As for Baron, he has a stacking debuff that causes him to do additional damage per stack (not sure on this, it has changed so many times I forgot if it's still there), a delayed AoE knockup that can be seen on the ground, and he (used to?) have an ability that knocks champions away. Hope this helps! -- 23:09, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Ok thanks! AntiZig and I were talking about this and we concluded that has 5 abilities (one called Wrath of the Ancients) and we are planning on making the A.I. template for the ones that have icons for it. 23:54, April 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * Just to make sure we talking about the same thing, we aren't "making" an ai template, just using it for the monster abilities (there's some image/link formatting that will have to be worked out so the template can work properly with those skills). -- 13:20, May 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Question, where are you going to find the icons for the abilities ? Ok for the debuff(s), but I don't think there is any icon for Nashor's knock-up/knock-back attacks for example. -- 14:27, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

RE:Open Beta
Hey Zelgadis. Unfortunately, I can't tell you why those patches you mentioned are dubbed "open beta." I wasn't the one who created the release history template, and I wasn't the one who assigned the patches into the categories. It was done before I joined the wiki, so you are probably better off asking Sam or Kaz about it. You do raise an excellent point, right now according to our release history the closed beta took about 2 months, open beta about 3 months, but then there's a period before season one that's questionable. If we can clear some things up and edit the release history template, that would be great. If only we could ask someone at Riot, but I doubt that's very possible. Maybe someone on official forums would be able to help out, but I don't frequent there, so I'm pretty useless in that regard. Keep me in the loop on your discussion with Sam/Kaz & any info you can find on this, if you need any help, let me know. -- 13:20, May 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Took another look around. According to Beta Test page open beta did last only 1 week, the rest was closed beta which lasted from april to october, 2009. Problem is, there's no patches between Oct 22-27, 2009. So effectively, there's no patches there that should be in open beta category. Alright, I think there's no need to bother Sam/Kaz about this. I'll rework the release history template. Let me know if you like it. Also, if there's any other articles that get affected due to this change, please let me know (are there any categories that refer to open/closed beta?). -- 13:48, May 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, there's a slight problem with changing "Closed Beta" to "Beta Stage". Reason is, technically v1.0.0.32 and hotfix were part of the open beta, so if I change Closed Beta to Beta Stage, that patch would need to get moved to be included in Beta Stage. Doing so will raise other problems like: I can't put it under V0.9.x.x since, it's already a V1.0.0.x. Consequently, creating a lone category of V1.0.0.x, under Beta Stage, just to put 1 patch there doesn't seem very space effective. So, I believe it's fine to use Closed Beta, because it is "politically correct," even though it doesn't express some of the information explicitly about the dates of Open Beta or Beta Stage as a whole. That information can be inferred from the linked articles (Beta Test page). -- 14:57, May 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ahh ok, I see what you mean. How about this then: User:AntiZig/release_history? -- 16:09, May 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * alright, either looks good to me, I guess we can decide on the exact format once season 2 comes around. (what the heck was season 1 anyway?). Also, another way to make the template smaller would be to use collapsible table extension. (idk if we have it) But on another wiki I used to frequent we used it on the nav menu that was always floating at the bottom. collapsible table was a way to save space there and worked very good. ( I think)-- 18:39, May 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yep, open beta lasted only for a week. I think V1.0.0.32 should stay with the Pre Season area, as it was in fact just teh preparation for official release and it would look weird otherwise because of the reasons above posted by you. You could try making the first column on the template a little wider. 18:56, May 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * I think we can wait will making a final decision on this. Maybe we come up with some fresh ideas till season 2 comes around. -- 19:15, May 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * We don't need to wait, the decision doesn't require anything from Season 2. 21:35, May 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay, but there is no hurry (since the wrong informations has been corrected already). We need a proper discussion about the look of the template before changing. My prototype is here, but I don't particularly like it (it's *huge* for no real reason). I'm accepting suggestions from anyone on how to improve it. -- 21:40, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

About Jax
Hello, I noticed you took back my edit about Jax being killed in mid-air by skillshots. He can if the shot connects to the ground above which he is jumping. I put that in because I actually HAVE done it a lot before. For example, if Jax leaps to you and you hit him with......., he will be hit by it. Just a thought, if you believe I am wrong, meh. &gt;.&lt; Demise101 &gt;.&lt; 12:17, May 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't think you are wrong.. actually, if you read my edit reason, I wrote that it's the standard behavior for dashes and as such there is no reason to state it, not that it's wrong. -- 12:20, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

RE: Ezreal Page
Hi. I guess I don't have to tell you that "the homonymous champion" is not exactly a good referrence, right ? I removed it for you, but please refrain from that in future. It gives a false idea. D3Reap3R: a Strategy Specialist 14:02, May 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, what?! It means champion with the same name, you know? ... -- 14:04, May 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay, fail on my part. Essential fail on my part ._. Sorry for the mixup <3 --D3Reap3R: Wiki-wordmark.png Strategy Specialist 19:03, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

RE: Designed by:
Wrong. The Designing is the essential part of the development, starting from the thought to the actual release. Who created him is a "partly important" information which however is placed into development. Give me good reasons and I'd change it again. D3Reap3R: a Strategy Specialist 19:02, May 14, 2011 (UTC)


 * I agree with you that designing is part of the development. However, I feel that this information is so important that it should be on the main page and not hidden somewhere on "secondary" pages. I'd really like to give more visibility to the developers, and this could be one way to achieve that. -- 19:53, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Chat
Me and Sagee cant talk in the chat room.:( --LoLisNumbaWan 13:02, May 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * What error do you get ? Have you tried refreshing ? 13:05, May 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * Tried refreshing and therre is no error i type seomthing up press enter and nothing. --LoLisNumbaWan 13:07, May 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * Cant use any browser becasue u cant insatl, anything on this laptop. (everyone gets one at school) --LoLisNumbaWan 13:10, May 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmm.. you could use a portable browser. Alternatively, try restarting the browser/laptop. 13:13, May 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * What browser do u use? --LoLisNumbaWan 13:15, May 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * Chrome, but it could depend on user settings.. -- 13:17, May 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * Maybe people who use IE cant type in chat. --LoLisNumbaWan 13:18, May 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * So what is a good portabe browser? --LoLisNumbaWan 13:19, May 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * Chrome or Opera. I haven't tested/used them tho- 13:25, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

RE: Categories
Thanks for information, sorry for any problems. MatthewRock 16:18, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Upload problem
Hey Zelga. I'm having problems with uploading an item image. After I uploaded, even though the image is different, I still displays the previous image. Can you help me with this? 00:57, May 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * The now-usual Wikia cache failure 02:03, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

I don't.....
......again, following the above example( in this case, the large bold title with 'The'). Should you wish to continue this discussion, I'll be on chat. &gt;.&lt; Demise101 &gt;.&lt; 09:56, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Item Page
Is the Item Sell price found somewhere else? I am just wondering why it was edited out. Cjmarsh 23:16, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

I realized where it was, on the individual item pages. Cjmarsh 04:43, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Your Opinion
Hey Zel. I don't contribute to the wiki just for badges, but don't you think that we should have a community discussion about removing them? 00:15, June 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * I honestly find badges *very* detrimental to the wiki, so I'm fine with their immediate removal. It's not in my style to take decisions without asking the community, but I certainly don't disagree with the action taken. 00:19, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Please explain to me...
Where the discussion was that had the consensus of removing the badges? 00:46, June 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Dunno why you posted this here, since I'm not involved in the decision made (although I agree with it).. To answer your question (which is probably rhetoric anyway), there isn't. And if you go ask on the forum, the obvious outcome will be that serious editors that contribute a lot to the wiki will support the removal of the badges, while the other 90% of the users (that only edit to climb "the ladder") will oppose it. 09:25, June 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ergo, no point in asking "tuh peeplz" in the first place 15:35, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Top page notice is not helpful
TBH, most users just open the watchlist or recentchanges, so announcement on the main top page is not effective as you would hope. The best way is simply to leave the msg in their talk page so they know there's something wrong with their uploading. -- Inpursuit (talk) 14:55, June 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree, but this skin doesn't support a site-wide message (gotta love Oasis eh?).. I can't message 20 users per hour unfortunately (since I should be studying...), so that's the only thing I can do :/. 14:58, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Chat doesnt seem to...again.
ZELGA!!! HELP i get these numbers (1307100839974) when i get into chat with everything being blank --LoLisNumbaWan 11:40, June 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * You'll have to contact Wikia, there is not much I can do for you :/ 11:43, June 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * EDIT: "LoLisNumbaWan has joined the chat. LoLisNumbaWan: wqvbqwhvkbvkjeqwbvqw"

11:45, June 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * LOL i thought it wouldnt work :) --LoLisNumbaWan 11:47, June 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * So u can see what i type? --LoLisNumbaWan 11:49, June 3, 2011 (UTC)
 * I see you entering/leaving, the only message i could see is the one above. Trust me, uninstall IE. :P 11:50, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Ill give that a try thanks. --LoLisNumbaWan 11:52, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Tags problems
Hello, wanted to ask to not leave the mess;

Please, take a look at some champions Ability Details pages(here you got Alsitar's one), and tags pages(for example Tanks).

Also, notice the differences between champions' Ability Details and Champions' pages(Alistar:)).

First thing: the Ability Details page contains much more Attributes.

Second, minor issue: Ability Details page has got too many categories(imho; i may be wrong).

Third thing: tags(Attributes) on the pages like the one i gave you(tag page or Attribute page) you can find some champions twice(like Amumu, Alistar, etc.). It's simply because both tags(Tank)appears in their Attributes section.

I thought about deleting Attributes that I spotted twice(like Tank attribute), bot it may be not good idea at all, so I leave it up to you.

Best Regards -- MatthewRock 19:52, June 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * It's because on the main page you have attributes as set by Riot while on the AD page they are given by us. See more here: Project:Advanced_Tagging_Project.

Manual of Style
Read it before quoting it, see #3. Capitalization Asperon Thorn 21:42, June 7, 2011 (UTC) added sig formated note.
 * 1) Capitalize the first word of every sentence. (eg. Annie uses mainly her spells, instead of normal physical attacks.)
 * 2) Capitalize proper nouns. (eg. Steve Mescon)
 * 3) Capitalize the first, last, and important words in a title. (eg. "League of Minions") 

Capitalize the first, last, and important words in a title. The title is "Skill Usage" It is two words. When a title is two words the first word is the First word. And should be capitalized. The second word (word number two if you will) is the LAST word as there are no words that come after the second word. And should be capitalized (If you look at number 3 in the Manual of style you see that the second object listed says "last"). I don't know how I can explain that any clearer, I thought #3 explained it pretty well. I will revert the edit, thank you. Asperon Thorn 19:19, June 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * And your point would be ? That usage is an important word ? Please... 18:07, June 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * I failed hard at reading, sorry. Anyway that rule refers to titles, aka page titles (and frankly doesn't even make much sense). Headers are not titles + capitalizing random words is not correct English anyway, so yes, it should stay in lower case. See also for some proper styling.  19:28, June 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * I will concede that if we used wikipedia's manual of style that it would probably not be capitalized. However our Manual of Style is distinctly different. They do not have the quoted text. In fact the relevent secion at wikipedia.org is here Capitalized titles and sections at Wikipedia.org According to them, it wouldn't matter if Skill usage was a title or a section heading, either way it would be Skill usage. Frankly, I think we should stick with ours. . .as we mostly have lists, tables, and stats and is more a repository for statistics then it is for Encyclopedia like articles. Even the sections in question are about min/maxing statistics through action. Asperon Thorn 19:49, June 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * I imported some of the rules from there to avoid confusion in the future. I frankly prefer a wiki written in proper English, even if this implies a transitory period where pages are slowly changed to the new format. I agree not every guideline of WP applies here, since, as you noted, the content is quite different. Correct capitalization still applies tho-. 19:55, June 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * I want to add that all the other champion strategies have the "U" in "Usage" capitalized. If you're going to change one, you change them all. 21:39, June 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm not going to manually edit all of them, I just revert changes against the MoS. 18:07, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

Ban
Your user name or IP address has been blocked.

The block was made by Zelgadis87.
 * Reason given: Vandalism

I saw this sentens and i was very suprised. I did not post any comment at wiki at all. Please repair that.


 * Please provide me with your username, as your current IP is not blocked. 18:08, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

block
it says you blocked me... why? o.0
 * Oh I have no idea.. Perhaps I may able to answer you, if you tell me what's your registered username.. 18:45, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

blocked for vandalisem =)
Hey its my first time on this page and im blocked for vandalisem by you ^^

153.107.97.158 <<<<<<<<< is a random ip i got from my Usb moden opon logon this time =)

Random ip sorta fuck up stuff ... reson why i play lol nd not hon since you cant reconnect without the same ip so should the net close down you get a leave cause what is the chance you ever get the same :P ?

anyway just wondering why ip ban ? not gonna restart my net to comment on something

M.V.H. Daniel C. Andersen


 * The majority of vandals are unregistered leaving us with their IP to block to prevent further vandalism, most blocks only affect anonymous users, and, as such, I suggest you make an account. Also, not everyone has a dynamic IP that resets often. I, for one, have a static IP address, and I know a friend who has a sticky dynamic IP that doesn't change often.    11:52, June 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * Just wanted to add that that IP was blocked 3 times in the last 3 months with increasingly longer periods of time (3 days, 1 week, 2 weeks) for vandalism. Assuming good faith, you have been pretty unlucky. As Neon said, anonymous user are subject to this kinds of bans; if you [ register] on this wiki on the other hand, you can bypass the IP block and edit as normal. 12:14, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Baron Ability Icons
Hey Zel! I figured out that the ability icons are actually reused icons from Riot. The icons are and. Now I am going to take note of the descriptions and I can start to add the info onto the Baron page. I just wanted to ask what you think about it. 07:08, June 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * No idea how you got them, nor what's their associated ability.. :o 08:40, June 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * It's a bit ironic, but these icons are actually leftover ability icons for Voodoo Shaman, and Plant King. I had to stare at the buff/debuff counter when battling baron a few times. I am 100% sure that these are the icons. Now I need to write down the descriptions of the abilities, then we can begin adding them. 06:03, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

Patch History
Hi, I noticed you undid my removal of the "Needs Patch History" category on Boots of Speed. Why? For the past several days, I've been going through the items in that category and removing those that no longer belong there. I add to the patch history when and as necessary and scan the details of every single patch before doing so. There is nothing more for Boots of Speed then what's already there, so why is it still in that category? Lord Kuato 10:54, June 15, 2011 (UTC)