Talk:Rammus/@comment-23919037-20130930103134

thornmail and spirit of the ancient golem are your offensive items. combined with your shield and taunt thornmail is extremely powerful and does more damage than you could do with sunfire or wits end or w/e and will KILL enemy ADC's. you dont need sunfire because your shield plus spirit of the ancient golem melts creeps when you are pushing. the only time i would recommend offensive items is if you are going an AP build.

after i get SOAG, thornmail, spirit visage, and boots, i usually get frozen mallet or warmogs, but the games dont usually last that long.