Talk:Renekton/@comment-5429893-20120820220801/@comment-4948122-20120820232044

The problem with bruisers isnt only on rene,its on all of them,toplane is pretty toxic,snowball a bit and you win,some snowball harder some not so(cho for example cuz he is the reverse of snowball due to ult).THing with rene isnt nececarly his full physical damage,,,its the item variety,you dont have many actives that may help a champ and there are too many armor items/mr items(at dota there are aswell but you need core items,not a shyva for example)and also there is lower hp pools aswell.

While renekton really needs a change(his bro as well),the whole toplane needs one as well,because it simply isnt fun about it(you either stopm or get stomped,rarely there are even matches).So yeah...theres that.