Talk:Riven/@comment-8733289-20131108173707/@comment-5707860-20131111180711

"people, counter riven with jax?!? just no, because her Q procs even when Jax uses E. She can snowball,if you dont counter her correctlly."

then you have no idea how Riven's or Jax's skillset works. Riven's Q procs, but her Q damage is only 30% of her overall combo damage. Rivens AAs inbetween her Qs is the driving force behind her high damage and Jax's E stops all AA damage. not to meantion, Jax's E also reduces AOE damage by 25%. Jax only needs to wait for Riven to use Q to press his dodge. in a trade between Rivens weakened Qs and Jax's AA, Jax will win out with added W to cancel his animation.

the cooldown difference between Riven's Q and Jax's lvl 1 E is 5 seconds. Jax only has to play safe for 5 seconds inbetween cooldowns before he has the advantage again.

for Riven vs Renekton, Riven will try to all in as soon as possible in order to snowball. Renekton will try to win through sustain. Renekton has less overall combo damage even with fury but his Q sustain will win the lane for him. after the initial early lane phase, an even Renekton will outlast a Riven simply through natural build (sunfire, randiums, etc.)