Talk:VPBE/@comment-4290320-20141207225537/@comment-1330314-20141212011309

"If Riot wants to make her viable in the new jungle, they can't really nerf her sustain."

I don't think so. While the current jungle favors heavy sustain and defense, not every jungler needs massive innate sustain to be viable (, and  are popular junglers, for example). Elise's strength was also never her clear: she's a gank jungler first and foremost, so with an appropriate kit she could be able to clear passably and still be an awesome jungler without having to rely on sustain.

If anything, I think Elise should keep her crowd control. Her human form has always been the mage to her spider form's assassin, and I think she can fit the niche of an assassin with hard CC, provided she makes the right tradeoffs. In order to be a good assassin, however, she needs to scale well and have better burst, so that might also require slashing her DPS and sustain, both of which are responsible for turning her into a bruiser.