Talk:Kayle/@comment-58.106.234.247-20130305043453/@comment-5077305-20130305153357

The AD helps with Q poke and last hitting so if you are against a lane where getting lots of AA's in is difficult then you might was to go with AD marks as that will help with really short trades. But that is pretty situational. In general if you can learn to last hit with AS reds and quints then you get much more gold efficiency out of the AS setup. The AS also scales wwwaaaaaayyyyy better into late game and is a really good early game stat on kayle to begin with.

I have tried hybrid pen runes and I just haven't really had luck with them. Perhaps I am blind but I just don't seem to notice what they do in terms of damage. They have no feel to them. I think I have a poor sampling with them as I seemed to lose every time I used them. Right now I just stick to AS as kayle scales so well with it.