Talk:Vi/@comment-20434720-20140520004511/@comment-9705522-20140527202219

Oh my god, you cant even see your own false equivalence? Lets see why that is a false equivalence. First, Vis ult is guaranteed damage, guaranteed knockup (which is the best type of cc, classified as surpreme) AND guaranteed dash. Ryzes q is a guaranteed damage spell, but thats all it does. There is no counterplay to it outside of not being in range .... because there doesnt have to be any. Its just damage.

Sorakas e is closer, but still false. Its "only" silence, doesnt make her follow up, and has the whole range limit thing. And even then, cleanse and QSS. Meaning, drumrolls please, IT HAS COUNTERPLAY. Why would you need it? Outside of a couple fabricated examples, not a clue. But its there. Thats why its a false equivalence.

Which is actually another very famous "dirty" arguing technique, which, sadly, you seem to be proficient in (ad hominem, ad populum, strawman and now false equivalence.). As for it to mean all of Vi, he didnt state that, because thats a, 50% of what vi is, and b, because he thought it wouldnt mean all of Vi. Because its his own creation.

Of course, it is all of Vi. She ults you, thats going to happen for sure. CC stops for her earlier than it does for you, also going to happen for sure. She will now, if she is any good, aa-e-e-botrk before the cc finished for you. This is also going to happen for sure. Now you, the adc, are going to be at 30% or less hp, be slowed heavily, have shredded armor, and have a fat 4k hp Vi in your face that is hasted, and if you dont run away and back to the fountain, you will die, either if you dont move imideatly there, or she will get her q in 2 or 3 seconds and then kill you.