Talk:Zilean/@comment-8921599-20141012120638/@comment-5224716-20141012132907

Considering you can Q -> W -> Q, it's 640 (+180% AP) (of course considering it's on level 5) AOE damage. I wouldn't say it's "nothing" compared to "real" mid laners. That's some nice AOE burst, besides he's not picked for his damage, look at that ult. Support Zilean isn't as affective as mid Zilean, if supp Zilean ults an ADC he'll revive with 50% hp and will probably be killed by enemy team in 1s. If mid Zilean ults an ADC, he'll get back with 100%. Now he might actually get away or at least get a return kill.