Talk:Wukong/@comment-200.120.77.208-20111105040552/@comment-3477331-20111105195058

With the fact that wukongs ult scales with ad and not with only base ad it is stronger without any ad items and it takes a lot of ad until garen surpasses wukong dmg wise. I think it was 400 total ad along with 50% crit chance and 250% crit dmg... Don't wanna look up my math atm