Talk:Viktor/@comment-24447033-20140515094843

I play Viktor, and I think his passive is underpowered late game. A 2nd tier upgrade sounds like a very good idea, but how viable is it? If you are paying an additional 1000 gold, then that makes it 2000 gold total right? So for a 2000 gold item, it should pretty much be the best AP item in the game otherwise his passive won't do anything much if its equal to the best few - because he can just buy them. So if its better than the best for 2000 gold, it would make viktor extremely OP early game which is undesirable. I think his 2nd tier core should be earned and not bought, because even if he's doing extremely bad in lane he can actually come back from that because then his 2nd tier doesn't rely on gold. Instead it should be something like:

1st tier earned at level 7 without any gold spent

2nd tier earned at level 16 without any gold spent

OR:

1st tier costs 1000 gold (currently live)

2nd tier requires 80 CS from 1st tier to level up - but this encourages players to rush their core (which isn't necessarily a bad thing)

OR:

2nd tier progressively gets stronger on each CS or level.

i.e. - upgrading to 2nd tier might increase his AP per level to 5 from 3. Or something like bloodthirster where killing a minion permanently grants 1 AP or something, heck, you could even add in that you lose X% stacks on death to make it more important to survive.

Again, these are only suggestions and the numbers were quickly determined/estimated so they should be tweaked. So what are everyone's opinion on this?