Board Thread:Wiki discussions and announcements/@comment-658634-20170109151805/@comment-658634-20170113101828

Tylobic wrote: Champion's abilities have been moved to templates so that the data inside the template could be used to automatically display an ability information (no need to update the ability on every page not and on every page that uses that champion's ability). TehAnonymous wrote: Embedding data and details behind multiple layers of templates functionally advantageous, but the mechanics/hierarchy/everything should be thoroughly and clearly documented. Luckyvampire wrote: There's another advantage of the current system - it is harder to vandalize important information as the potential vandal will get confused/bored trying to find it. SailorMint wrote: The benefit of being able to pull data from one source to display it on multiple pages outweights the few extra clicks needed to edit it. Indeed its advantageous if this would be a database. Alas, this is not and wikimedia does not offer the tools of database operations. Also you seem to miss the point of WHERE the data locates and confuse it to HOW it is used. Having the information on the page itself does not remove the use of templates to display nor makes it any way harder to fetch it for displaying. On the countrarary.

For the vandalism point, there are the articles itself, the formation templates and then the data templates. None of them are protected and changes in any of the template ones has wiki wide effects. With one search I found 515 vurneabilites from this template data structure alone in this wiki, not including any of the display templates. Thats quite bunch of pages to protect and maintain for few trusted persons. If templates would be used for displaying data instead of storing it, that number would drop to same number as there are displaying templates. There are two ways of making vandalism easy, by making lot of stuff depend on each others (templates on templates on templates) and not protecting them or allowing unrestricted bots. Or you can just slap PROTECTED on everything but then you will genocide the wiki's next generation of editors.

Emptylord wrote: ... Roll back the decision to use individual templates per ability, and just invoke the ability information directly from the article when it's needed by other pages. This was discussed, and was almost solved before the decision to use templates was pushed. I have missed that disccussion totally, odd. TehAnonymous wrote: Nazareadain wrote: Is there not a way to (re)direct edit access so you can easily get to edit the template? Yes, the wiki markup/media allows it. Then you will end up having double number of edit buttons and/or hidden buttons as sections are automagicly already marked to have edit button or stop using sections or do some heavy customization to editing preferences and making other pages a pain to edit. There is no need to try re-invent the wheel here. Fancy tricking with templates lead to this situation, making more customzation and fancy tricks would most likely just dig the hole deeper.
 * Teh's Thoughts & What I think we should have We know that they are your thoughts, Your name literally locates above your comments and ues, you can only speak for yourself. Thats kinda the default setting in internet.

Prometheos II wrote: I agree with this idea, but removing the template would also remove the item and champion previews, wouldn't it ? Not at all. As I mentioned, templates are usually used to format the data, not be data themselves. The info templates (mouse hoover ones, short article infos) could just as well pull the data from the articel itself through a info/display template and show just like now. Difference would that every editor could help with the updating and patroling the wiki and only the info/display templates needs to be kept on check/protected/would-be-vurneable.