Talk:Rift Scuttler/@comment-10428734-20141011110406/@comment-1330314-20141017031025

Dropping a ward at the speed shrine's location would give pretty much the exact same amount of vision, and wouldn't be immediately visible to the enemy team, so if you're using the shrine just for the vision it's effectively half a free ward. I think most of the counterplay to the Scuttle Crab is going to be mainly in contesting the objective in the first place, in a manner similar to the altars in Twisted Treeline. Bar an early game bug, the monster's extremely difficult to kill and makes a point of running up and down the river, which makes any attempt to kill it extremely liable to attract the attention of the enemy jungler and lanes (particularly if the river's warded). With that, managing to capture it should be sufficiently rewarding. Killing Dragon or Baron doesn't offer the enemy team an opportunity to reverse that kill, bar killing players to deactivate the Baron Buff, and I don't think there should be an option to directly reverse the speed shrine or its effects. Warding it already reveals the position of anyone trying to use the speed boost, so it does have a measure of counterplay.