Talk:Yasuo/@comment-2179912-20140119221357/@comment-4929329-20140121062356

I wouldn't throw Yasuo at Talon just to test this theory. Actually, I'm going to compare the instant burst between the two, as though their mechanics do not allow Talon to avoid Yasuo's knockup. For this model, I assume that his passive does not work on his Q bonus damage because I am not sure, but I will put in the first second of bleed damage as well. (9.6 base damage, 19.2% Bonus AD with damage amp)

Damage after Cutthroat = 986.1 + 364.2% bonus AD + 253% total AD, usually with TriForce proc (not amplified by passive). Now, let's assume level 18 since these are late game examples as we have max rank in every spell. This lets us calculate the total into bonus for a better comparison:

Talon base AD = 105.8, TriForce = 182.5. Damage is now: 1436.3 + 617% bonus AD.

Yasuo base AD = 107.6, Shiv is 200 because crit. Damage is now 1299.3 + 557.5% bonus AD. So, counting that Talon does not need to build crit to achieve this, his transition from early to mid is a lot smoother, and he is not reliant on landing a knockup on an enemy for the armor penetration. This usually allows him to build more bulk since he lacks the Wind Wall ability that Yasuo has.