Talk:Veigar/@comment-44521797-20191127114920

I main Veigar (I know you hate me already)... There are definitely games where I get my butt handed to me. Besides the obvious champs already mentioned like Morgana and fizz that can avoid his E, there was a Shivana that was running circles around me, she was jumping through my wall somehow without getting stunned. There are a few more as well. But that doesn't matter cuz that only helps 10% of you.

Unless I'm super fed, any moderately fed tank (3000+ health) can survive my combo 1 on 1. after which I'm a sitting duck. until my q comes off CD. But even then, it's a skill shot; and in that situation, I'm pretty nervous so I sometimes miss and that's nail in the coffin. And in general, every few matches I come across a player who can easily dodge 70% of my E+W combo just by moving around the right way. like someone else said it is possible to avoid my W even inside the cage. Both the E and W have a delay and indicator so it gives you a chance to avoid getting stunned, and then another chance to avoid the meteor. Just gotta be mindful of it. if anything, it's his ult needs rework cuz it's boring! They should make it a skill shot, not a heat-seeking missile. If they take away his E, he becomes useless. If absolutely necessary, maybe slightly reduce the stun duration (like .25s). If they make the area smaller it would actually become harder to dodge.