Talk:Twisted Fate/@comment-87.211.80.3-20110916215503/@comment-3532889-20110920172418

You can't just assume champs that are UP are incapable of doing anything, they become UP because there is an aspect they do really well, that Riot wants rid of. It isn't practical in the slightest for everybody on your team to grab oracles or vision, and it's not like to start that way either. With twitch, you can easily get fed in the early game, and become an unstoppable god of destruction because of ambush kills. The main reason he's UP, is that if you don't get fed, you end up become the squishiest piece of s**t in the late, incapable of surviving long enough to get any kills, you appear out of nowhere and die immediately.

What the anon said is possible, there's no reason to assume he's lying (or care whether or not he's lying for that matter), nor is twitch's situation as simple as "Twitch is not UP, I can kill things" or "Twitch can't kill anything and is hard countered by oracle spam."

Also, I find it humorous that this turned into a discussion about twitch/trundle/eve in the TF page.