Talk:Shyvana/@comment-2248060-20140422021352/@comment-4636093-20140422072924

The majoriest major problem with the item is really public expectation I think. Nobody is used to junglers ACTUALLY being able to carry.

In season 1 the only good junglers were sustain beasts, Nunu, Warwick, Fiddlesticks, etc.

In season 2 there were the people with gargantuan clear speeds, Udyr, Shyvana, Mundo.

Season 3 was the age of bruisers. Their job was to get their laners fed.

That's the problem, in every season so far, junglers have been there for the aid of the laners. They have given mid bluebuff, or ganked and snowballed thier lanes to win the game, they've always had a really prominant impact on the game flow (none bigger in fact), but they were always the same as a support.

In season 4... now with the Feral Flare they can actually become the biggest threat on a team. They can carry themselves. And we're just not used to it.

It will settle down soon, then we will know if the Feral Flare really is such a problem. It just got nerfed so it'll be easier to deal with (the problem with jungling carries is that they're rather hard to shut down... see a Nasus farming top? Or a Twitch farming bot? Gank him! DON'T see a Warwick farming the jungle? .. not a lot you can do about that).