Talk:Garen/@comment-210.6.166.17-20120811132522

he is still pretty much UP after the semi-remake. The main problem with garen he doesnt have much utility and he have a problem of getting kited. Lets just compare him to renekton, they both have innate tankiness, sustain (not to mention garen's sutain is pretty meh) and aoe damage abilities, but renekton have a double gap closer and a stun compared to garen's silence and MS buff. The only thing that garen have and renekton doesnt have is a execution skill but it is still outclassed bby other executions (riven have an aoe one and darius have cooldown refresh). As for the problem of getting kited, garen might have a slow removal but it is pretty useless against someone like ashe.