Talk:Graves/@comment-96.246.20.240-20130320061744/@comment-7095057-20130328175432

You always rush a BT or IE first with Gravens anyway. Hence why I say it's a replacement for LW/Cleaver. Lower Armor pen, but faster AS, a movement/LS active and HP % shred. It's a nice item to grab when you know your enemy isn't stacking a lot of armor. You can generally decide by mid game weather to go for BoTRK or Cleaver/Whisper.