Talk:Shyvana/@comment-86.160.180.22-20111030202423/@comment-3165723-20111101013851

numbers do not make a champion balanced or unbalanced, save for hugely vast differences which is a little silly arguing for or against. Look at Rumble, even after his nerfs to his numbers, he's still top tier. Same for Irelia, Udyr kinda, Lee Sin, etc. I'm not saying Shy looks op at all, but numbers don't always determine balance, sometimes a champ's kit is just so effective that mild changes to numbers dont really hit them very hard. Look at trynd, there's obviously nothing wrong with his numbers, but in lower elo's he absolutely destroys while in higher elo's people know how to deal with him and he rarely lasts very long in a team fight.