Talk:Thornmail/@comment-204.29.111.62-20111205170205/@comment-134.84.101.8-20111215045619

Thornmail isn't a standalone hardcounter to all auto attacking carries, this would be horribly OP. When a champ with 200+ armor has this item, since the damage return is pre-mitigation, a carry will literally need around 70-80% lifesteal (Which is applied post mitigation) unless they have an abnormal amount of MR and Apen. Even then, forcing them to invest in these items makes them forsake the extra crit/aspd or damage they would otherwise get, I still see thornmail as effective, but in its own place. It's not the single item shutdown to tryndamere or master yi that everyone wants it to be.