Talk:Renekton/@comment-108.207.116.86-20120723184701/@comment-5009341-20120726184350

^yep, thats whar´t the enemy does all day, its not like rene or his jungler can turretdive and just kill the enemy, i mean nasus/sion/veigar are balanced in that point, so that they wont reach lategame by just sitting under the turret and doing nothing (unlike all the pro irelia players who came to 1400 elo by picking this champ (it is so frustrating, but true))

i usually try to get lw when the enemy is about to reach lvl 12 and finish mbr when they near 16, so that even if they go full armor and health i wont have such a bad time