Talk:Rumble/@comment-79.131.108.2-20120618220557/@comment-4843765-20120619173509

In the hands of equally skilled players a Riven v. Rumble matchup will edge heavily in Riven's favor. Why? Riven can engage Rumble at level 1 and deal tons of damage while Rumble can do nothing until at least level 5 (by now he will have been severely denied CS). Riven also has other advantages: a shield, a stun that can mess up flamespitter's direction, and better mobility. It's not an impossible lane of course, but the only way that Rumble should win the lane is through player skill. So just because you've never had problems against Riven does not mean that Rumble is better than Riven. I too have dominated my share of Rivens but these victories were due to personal skill, not inherent champion strength. In any case, let's not delude ourselves by making over-the-top statements like "Rumble pretty much shits on anyone up top" because Rumble has a handful of counters and checks among those champions that he can dominate.