Talk:Renekton/@comment-5429893-20120820220801/@comment-5009341-20120820231141

there are like 0.01% of the community which really believe that rene is OP, so ur post is somehow... true, but not needed

the rest of the players who got raped by a skilled reneplayer early game countered rene by doing nothing (yes im serious, happened to me a lot), they sit around sometimes feed, but once there health and armor is high enough rene deals close to no damage and they solved the problem without even trying,

and thats what i call utterly retarded, seriously, there are people who say that darius is balanced, what is rene then? useless?, darius has a fairly better earlygame and a much better lategame, he can even jungle, what about rene?

i had a game today, i was mundo and rene was my toplane opponent,

team: http://www.lolking.net/summoner/euw/25962477#history (scroll down to the mundo game from 20.8.12)

my set up:

mrpen reds, health/lvl seals, mr/lvl glyphs, ms quints (it is actually made for midlane, but who cares it is rene, and i am mundo)

masteies: 9/21/0

i arrived like 1 min after the first creepwave (cause i was helping my team to get enemies red buff and FB), i started with dorans shield, the whole laning phase i did lasthit minions with q from a far, since i know renes q heals him, i didnt even try to harass, rene could never trade and if he did i healled back with my passive,

he killed me once, i was low health, he double dashed through minions and ignited me (~1200 range)

laning phase is over, i run around with huge sustain help my team, rene pushed my turret

my build at that point: ninja, FM, sunfire, kinglem, dorans shield, 4 wards

renes build: mercs, BT, GA,FM

in this game my skill lvl was terribly low, i tried to focus their kat, but all champs where clustered in one point (ren, ali, xin, kat) so it was very hard to aim for anyone and so we died a lot cause of focus fail

rene was tanky, but he leaked cc, survivability and mobility mechanism, so we could kill him in 2-5 seconds

all in all, if i had to face a riven top lane, we would have lost

riven has almost the same early game, but her lategmae is carry like

and if people call riven balanced. then rene ,from this point of view, is UP