Talk:Garen the Night of Demacia/@comment-4167645-20110812041452/@comment-3546228-20110812042952

Poppy's Q is a special case. Unlike Garen's Q hers can crit. Also scales off both her 100% AD AND has an AP ratio. Look at Renekton's W just as 2 or 3 auto attacks in a row which also stun. Just the ratio is changed, it's 75% of his AD + a flat amount depending on skill rank. But if I understand your question correctly you're asking if they can be considered real auto attacks. No, they can't because apart from Poppy's Q they cannot crit, but they DO apply all on hit effects the characters have.