Talk:Twisted Fate/@comment-66.220.242.100-20110927125147/@comment-139.130.57.34-20111001045019

Everyone here who says AD TF is better than AP TF is clearly not level 30. The problem with AD TF isn't damage output, it's his range. The thing is EVERY AD RANGE CARRY is better than TF because they can dish out damage from a safe distance. TF's autoattack range is so short he may as well be melee. Except unlike most AD melee's, he has no escape nor is he tanky enough to survive the brawl. AD TF is only good if the other team is so bad they don't or can't focus him - which doesn't happen in level 30 ranked games above 1200 ELO.

Someone said AD TF is about as good as Sivir. WRONG. AD sivir actually scales well. Sivir's nuke is long range and scales with her AD. Furthermore her dodge and her free banshee veil means she can survive stuns as well. Not to mention she has an actual steroid. TF's AD steroid scales of AP! If they made TF's Q scale decently with AD, then AD TF might be viable. At the moment, he is not a viable AD carry on summoner's rift.