Talk:Yasuo/@comment-26869721-20170125163931/@comment-31203455-20170214151441

I don't need to search for justification. The fact that he has so many coddling mechanics plugged into his kit on top of his major strength is basic justification.

I was not looking for justification in K/D/A. I was simply saying that Winrate does not give an accurate picture of a champions balance. Even in high ranks, it doesn't say how many games were carried, lost due to stupidity, lost due to team mates, AFKs, lost due to Trolls, won due to Trolls and son.

I was saying that K/D/A, especially if K/D/A could be recorded for various stages of the game, could point out how many kills for every death a champion is worth. How easily a champion might go from zero to murderous with 1 item? Snowballing? How easily the champion can get kills while behind?

Obviously there are unrecorded variables there to, but if they continue to use Winrate to validate balance then they need to improve the accuracy of the information.

Also, Kurai, I argue about champions that I feel have unbalanced elements, not just any champion that annoys me. Unless its a visual thing like Lee Sin's root n kick!

@ Naz - Oh brilliant! Challenger. While I get that winrate (and even K/D/A) varies from rank to rank, you can't base balance on the small top tier of players when the majority normal players are lower down in the ranks.

Right, "Anti-Crit" Kha'zix was funny, but in all honesty "target death" is not a good excuse as a counter. Not only is the original problem; the target killing you too easily, but if we get into a pattern of killing one high damage target with another higher damage target, then we end up with knife-edge "who blows up who first" scenario or else the "always a bigger fish" in a pond running out of room scenario.

it just seems weird that armour pen is almost baseline, even though the main targets for Lethality users should be squishies anyway, and not tanks.

ADCs would benefit aye but while they wouldn't be butt-fucked on sight as is now, they also wouldn't be going around crowning each other in brief 2 second gun shows.