Talk:Katarina/@comment-5077844-20150106181505/@comment-15280970-20150107222900

Yes kassadin is the ideal counter to katarina. What I like of him is that unlike the other "counters", he keeps an extremely high snowballing threat after mid game.

Shen can't ult you unless you screw both Q and Riftwalk and she has to be in range during that 7/5/3 sec window. Q equals free damage to her and nullfies dagger poke. Her being melee means that you can W her anytime she last hits minions to restore a lot of mana.

She lacks both of kassadin's greatest fears: pushing and cooldown-independence (she is extremely CD gated like kass).

The problem? Lol is a 5v5 game, in Yolo Q, if katarina has a more "solo q" oriented team ("Wukong Leona Rek Sai Fiddle Graves Jinx Amumu Janna etc) it will be very hard to make your advantage have a greater influence than the natural teamfighting power those champions have.

So winning lane is ensured, but winning the game can sometimes be hard.