Talk:Graves/@comment-85.225.48.208-20120829145749/@comment-24.136.172.117-20120908094440

Stop the QQ. Are forgetting how that if he uses his dash for an AS steroid he basically has no escape? And same thing vice versa. Another thing, Tristana's Q lasts for 7 seconds compared to Graves's 4 second boost that's smaller too. Graves was nerfed for having both a good early and late game, which is the right to do and the recent nerfs did the job pretty well tbh. With the AS nerf, Ezreal will have ahout 8% higher AS than Graves if they both build the exact same. And btw you can't judge a champions power by their ability to duel. Some champions like Warwick can duel better than others, but that doesn't make them overpowered.