Talk:Shen/@comment-973379-20160122105959/@comment-27121990-20160123092959

well,who would just stand still in a Vayne/Cait/any range champs (Lulu,Gnar,Lissadra,...).You have 3 simple ways to counter these picks:

1) Let them push: CS under the tower, in the early gaem they can't poke you enough to stop you from csing.

2 ) Let them take your tower : what more can they do if they keep pushing the waves ? Then you just have to keep the creeps near your 2nd tower and get all the waves you want,sometime you can even denied they to have some creeps just because it to far away form their side.

3) Help other lanes : you know there a 2 others lane in the game ,right ? If they keep the creeps near their tower,just try to gank mid/roam bot/ help the jungler take drag/..... and wait until the waves reset.

There are some more ways that you will find if you have this kind of match up a couple of time.I mean,if using range on top lane so op,pros must have use it all the time in their games.