Talk:Fizz/@comment-25913468-20141223130018/@comment-25187669-20141225192053

we aren't talking about "if" we are talking about general counterplay, and with that E there is none

If you say he can't get to the enemy carry if the carry just stays in the backline I can say that if fizz isn't a idiot he will wait till the fight starts, he will wait for them to blow their important cc hell even their main dmg abilities. Or do you engage as a katarina or yi? no you don't, you wait for your team to do it

and I feel like you have no idea what you are talking about if you say "dfg hurts his build"

"And his vulnerability period is very long. Even with Zhonyas, he will be vulnerable for 3.5 seconds. So yeah, Fizz got plenty of counterplay."

yeah alright, zhonyas + E gives him the longest invulnerability, so yeah fizz has the least counterplay. if you say "even with zhonyas he will be vulnerable for 3.5 seconds, how does that make his vulnerability period very long if ad asssassins don't get zhonyas or other ap assassins only have a zhonyas compared to fizz e + zhonyas?

seriously I almost lost my shit when reading what you wrote