Talk:Riven/@comment-26875630-20150826112630/@comment-3578129-20150827045909

"there are many ways to counter riven" but no one ever mentions exactly the ones, except some general bullshiet like "dont overextend and play def".

If you dont overextend, that means riven has free farm and WILL farm and push more than you thus making her free to gank other lanes and have more gold. You lose. Dont even try to deal with riven while playing typical top lane bruiser, you can't trade with her. Ranged picks are rarely suitable too, because riven can close gaps instantly and lock and burst you.

Someone said once: "you can't win against riven, you only can try not to lose".