User blog comment:Andre5913/Lore-wise Champions Power Tier list/@comment-3974211-20140224001241/@comment-24090792-20140225041757

@ Emptylord : uh although i didnt read veigar lore until now after reading your post but i didnt find anything regarding him for being a loser so i think you are referring to a source other than the wiki, if yes please tell me of it since i love lore more than anything else in a game hence all the games i paly are heavy lore based ( see my name and bring milk for khorne flaks, butter for pop khorne or suffer breakfastless days for ever  :P ) and i will be grateful to you freind.

in fact, the lore stated him as one of the most powerful sorcerers in valoran and a corrupter of cosmic energy so i think he should be top teir if not for his mortal body