Talk:Gragas/@comment-4018089-20110901230014/@comment-4018089-20110902183740

because i find they give me the best start out of any other items ive tried- rings, mana crystals, ruby crystals, anything. the boots let me scoot around and nab last hits while the extra 600 health doesnt hurt ._. also, how does going for sustain hurt my damage? i get more sustain from a catalyst/RoA than from being gold inefficient by stacking bad items for cheap stats, and from that sustain i get more farm, defense, and damage, because of the Valor's reward. in case you didnt notice catalyst gives AP too, which buffs my damage, and if i find im not instagibbing squishies enough with my q+r+e, i get a deathcap, if not i go tanky so i can be a big sponge for my team.