Talk:VPBE/@comment-26489540-20151101155735/@comment-26489540-20151102160737

@Emptylord: Doesnt matter if I have 5 attacks per second, if I can't kite back I'm dead so it changes nothing. As for actually getting a Juggermaw comp in solo queue, good luck, and then to have 4 strangers coordinate the themeselves properly to protect you? It isn't going to happen. So Kog went from hard to pull off in solo queue to impossible. He's unnable to actually carry due to needing a level of protection only a coordinated team can provide. MAybe he'll be an LCS monster, but I give zero fucks about that. I wamt to be able to take him out and actually play him in games myself, without needing the entire team on TS all playing to support me. Because he doesn't work with any other comp anymore.

MF could easily be buffed the way she is. Like I said reduce the channel on her ult to 1.5 seconds whilst retaining the number of waves per ult, and she cant lose Strut when Impure Shots is active. Most of the time as MF the reason you lose is cause your ult makes you stand still too long (easy target) and your passive is useless the moment you take any damage, even with the instant reset. And if that doesnt work, well shoot. I guess we can try completly revamping her, preferably without something as stupid as Love Tap.

They alreasy felt distinct, even Graves and Lucian. That entire paragraph is only really relevent in competetive play, where the champs feeling 'Distinct' doesnt matter, it matters who is best. So if you need a tank shredder, you chose Vayne or Kog'maw, A tower buster is Trist or Jinx, Kalista/Ashe to kite, Sivir/Ashe for initiation, or Kalista/Corki for an earlier power spike. You jave 8 adc's to chose from (9 if you include mid Varus, and I don't, 10 with Draven who's viability is dependent on how confident you are and has no real niche other than Draven) Other marksmen arent useful casue they dont perform the job of an adc. Ezreal, Lucian, MF, Graves and the others arent really viable, cause they just dont do the same job, that is an AD autoattacker. The only reason Morde gets in bot at all in those games is cause his numbers are WAY too high, giving him the ability to kill anyone he wants whilst also being able to take towers due to dragon.

Cait and Graves and Lucian were never really dominant this season, they were pocket picks at best for certain players. And you missed Kalista.