Talk:Katarina/@comment-186.136.186.166-20120616215957/@comment-4929329-20120618055857

His sustained dmg is far greater pre6, so going in to autoattack for last hits is suicide... just use Q to attempt to last hit. It should be nearly impossible for him to hit you if you are careful, as Ryze tends to sit back and farm. Just do not try to harass him, you'll lose like you told us.

Post6 you instantly win all fight which he does not have Flash. Otherwise you force him to go back. He has no real way to escape your ult and he likes to harass by now since he has his Tear of the Godess, keeping in your ult for more time...

So tell me, what made you think you could try and last hit with Ryze sitting in the minion wave? If he was sitting there, why did you not receive a gank? If that gank failed, how truly pathetic is your team? BTW, a successful gank does not have to kill Ryze, just force him to go back.