Talk:Zilean/@comment-71.56.86.124-20120613115601/@comment-4184629-20120621190356

This is actually because it is his passive that he gains the 8% extra, the buff is not applied to him because the symbol for his passive is already telling you he has the 85 extra. I too had this confusion at one point, but that was my reasoning on it, redundancy and possible confusion as to why his passive is being applied and a buff as well.