Talk:Garen/@comment-24004625-20131003130450/@comment-8506165-20131006001757

"Well that's.... Kinda disappointing :P Is crit a worthwhile stat on Garen?"

Well, my friend who is the single best Garen player I have ever seen, and made me regard him as anything other than a joke champion who steals kills from his teammates, insists that IE should definitely be in Garen's full build.

Look at it this way: the AD ratio on Garen's Judgment is 110% AD per second. With an IE, that becomes 275% AD per second if he crits. Now, admittedly, if you only go for the IE then Judgment only has a 25% chance to crit per tick of damage, but it's still a noticeable buff to his damage. The only other crit items that are really nice on Garen are Atma's and Youmuu's, but whether you build those is down to you.

As I understand it, IE & Cleaver are fairly solid as damage items on Garen, with the rest being tanky ones. Makes him an armor-shredding machine with fairly noticeable crits while being a tanky sonofabitch. Garen needs to build damage to stay relevant, otherwise he's never a threat to anyone who's not already on low health for the ult. His only CC is silence, so without damage he's just a slightly hard to collect bag of 300G after he uses that because he hits like a ballerina without offensive itemisation.

I don't claim to be an expert in building Garen though. I personally find his mechanics rather boring and thus don't own/play him. But as I say, my friend who's a big fan of him says IE is an excellent damage choice.

Oh, and yes, Judgment did always crit. So that's not new.