Talk:Renekton/@comment-5414113-20120820023532/@comment-5009341-20120820192017

^i think rushing LW against very tanky enemies is a good idea,

LW cost like 2200-2400 gold, so it shouldnt be a prob

MBR comes later (but u should get razors as early as possible against olaf)

^^^if this amount of armor kills rene, he defintly had armpen runes (which is a bad idea agaist a tank enemy in the first place)

a good rene would have gotten AD/lvl or flat AD runes

but i agree, the spectre to counter rene is wide, u basicly dont even have to counter him at all, since lvling up does more then enough

unlike irelia, who needs to be countered by ASdebuff, health and armor

or olaf very much health and armor

or riven with some armor and a lot of health (she gets LW, stacking armor is ineffective), all her abilities scale with (even the shield...),

but unlike rene, riven has shorter cd, no fury system, and higher basedamage on her abilities and hence doesnt have to afford cdr, and she also doesnt have useless scaling on her abilities or a weak passive