Talk:Ryze/@comment-177.131.198.208-20121120124426/@comment-5151680-20121120231650

I'm not a pro ryze or anything, but I tested out using the frozen fist on him instead of the frozen heart (trade 30 armor and 5% cdr for 100 mana, 40 AP, and a small AoE damage + AoE slow on his basic attacks,) and it worked out quite well, especially when combined with a muramana.

The slow was great for chasing, esp when combined with his ult. I guess it really depends on what the enemy team is building. If they start to stack MR, buy a void staff, and if they aren't, a manamura is a great option. Argueably better than a seraph's.