Talk:Vi/@comment-25267058-20150604234442/@comment-9705522-20150607113456

Those are counters, not counterplay. In case of Zhonyas, since that item is bad on most ADCs, its not even a particularly good counter. Counterplay is something like dodging a skillshot, or being able to stop someones combo (e.g. ccing Kat during her ult). Vis ult has some counters, but absolutely no counterplay.

Actually, Clyrah, Vis ult is indeed the only ability that has absolutely no counterplay. There are some that have relatively little, but none of them are as powerful as Vi, and all of them still have some counterplay. Vis ult does not. And it being an ultimate does NOT excuse that fact. Any ability that can be described as "kill an enemy button, which the enemy cant do anything about" is terrible for the game, and sadly, thats Vis ult.