Talk:Luden's Echo/@comment-24971427-20180912020008/@comment-29964258-20180912020404

I think it's the time investment. Luden's you get it and it's done, archangels is usually better once you scale it, but people want power and they wanted it yesterday. Luden's also does usually more damage, because of the bouncing damage thingos, although seraph's shield makes for safer play, especially when you are behind as you are less likely to be depleting your mana pool when behind.