Talk:Tryndamere/@comment-26489540-20150627224810/@comment-26489540-20150628123402

Yeah that seems to the problem here. Though to be fair the counterplay to grave isn't really as you mentioned, the main one i tend to see is 'Dazzle is a support so he's supper squishy so just kill him first thing' and someone like Storm Spirit or QoP with massive amounts of burst and engage will just jump on him and kill him before he can drop grave/weave. People like to say that you shouldn't do that, because as someone like that you should be trying to kill the carry and not blowing your load on a support. To that i say QoP's aoe is so good sheee can kill dazzle and the carry at the same time, and Storm's longest cooldown is about 10 seconds, and that's on his stun, so he's more that capable of tearing apart everyone.

His two hardest counters are probably Silencer (because global silence is good against anyone who's trying to cast shit) and Axe (I SAID GOOD DAY SIR!)