Talk:Vayne/@comment-190.2.96.143-20110515082455/@comment-3308937-20110516002644

Vayne isn't as good as Ashe as long as Ashe has a global teamfight winning stun.

@Riffeeman: You make a point to say that Malz's W is easy to avoid then go on to talk about Vayne's "non-ult stun" which, with good positioning, is easy to avoid as well. Everyone is complaining about how her true damage is what makes her OP when, imo, it is her high mobility from passive, ult, and tumble and the extremely high damage on her condemn (more than Poppy's which is melee). The point the creator of that thread was making was that her % damage isn't nearly as bad as everyone is making it out to be.