Talk:Graves/@comment-25855686-20151108040014/@comment-35229418-20151108131110

It doesn't suck, that's why I said it sucks compared to other clear junglers. Yi and Shyvana are awesome clear junglers. Graves's clear is as good as a normal jungler's, but with those ganks...

I mean, if I was being hit by a smoke grenade from nowhere, I would just back off towards my turret. It's true that being in there means I can't avoid a Thresh grabbing me, but that's also what happens with Graves as the ADC.