Talk:Riven/@comment-25964183-20150105095748/@comment-14081808-20150106162012

I think the OP just threw out an idea as a possibility. An idea that doesn't sound extremely terrible. Maybe not broken or amazing, but definitely not bad.

PROS: It gives your jungler more time to engage with the slow. It doesn't do as much as Ignite, BUT it's on a 60-second cooldown. Riven's only other option is BC for brutilizer, and this is much cheaper. Allows pushing lane easier, and counter jungling when pushed up. Allows for interesting map rotations as you can potentially switch with Jungler or act as second jungler for your team. Starting Gromp with your jungler gives you a buff in lane and almost ensures they take no damage before level 2 (not sure on gromp health level 1, so two smites might kill it, meaning saving it to help with blue wold be better).

CONS: No additional flat penetration compared to BC. Loss of % penetration that BC would have provided. 5 less AD than BC. Investment into a non-lane item (Hunters Machete) that provides no benefits until upgraded. Potentially less damage than Ignite (IDK the numbers). Loss of Greivous would that Ignite would have provided.

This is just off the top of my head.