Talk:Veigar/@comment-25544813-20151026044721/@comment-6301771-20151030184848

A reminder that a fully stacked Seraph Staff grants 140 AP with just Veigar's base mana pool and it's own 1k mana, and once you buy it you'll never run out of mana again.

Plus, CDR isn't as valuable on Veigar as people think. If someone's going to die the instant you look at them funny, being able to do that again 1.2 seconds faster isn't going to amount to much. Veigar is a burst mage, if you don't kill someone with your first spell rotation you've already messed up.