Talk:Jarvan IV/@comment-175.143.213.91-20120523150824/@comment-4917717-20120526050756

I main Jarv top too. I play him as an off-tank bruiser. I would suggest only building one Doran for item space's sake, especially if you're build Brutalizer(I build it whenever I do well early). I don't buy Ghostblade until quite a bit later, honestly. It's why I don't like the double-doran build. The extra attack speed is w/e on the champ and the movespeed isn't needed.

I wouldn't suggest the Bloodthirster. Jarv is incentivized to buy health more than resistances and lifesteal on bruisers is better with stacked resistances. Jarvan synergizes better with smaller damage items like Brut and Hex.

You can build tanky early, but I opt for more of a mix. I build stuff like doran's, phage, brutalizer and hexdrinker. It allows for much more successful mid-game ganks and fights and a more flexible build. If you're going to build Aegis on him, build it first or second. It's a good item on him, but I feel like it just doesn't help your damage output enough.

Your build is totally viable, though. I used to play tanky top Jarvan and he's great. My old build was WM into Atma's or some mr into Atmas then Triforce. Good items on tanky J4: FM, Tri, WM, Atma's, Brut, Banshee's, Randuin's, Aegis, Maul, Revelrie(if your team needs one), MERCS ALWAYS(pretty much), and HoG. I say that Guardian Angel is pretty bad on him, as you want to stack health, making the hp you come back with insignificant.

A warning: do not try being aggressive against decent tops during laning with tanky Jarv. You won't deal enough early-on to fight them effectively and you have no sustain. Anyways, I hope I helped you get closer to an "optimal build." lol