Talk:Karma/@comment-4117463-20160201095855/@comment-1905446-20160226131016

K, tried out a few different rune/mastery combinations.

First, Thunderlord feels much better ganking than Strength, but the survivability from Strength is a full Liandry's worth. If you think you can blow people up with your ganks, Thunderlord. If you want to be more supportive and kitey, Strength. My Thunderlord mastery page's Cunning tree has the first three tiers on the left, then two on the right, then Thunderlord, and all 4 remaining tiers on the left side of Resolve. My Strength page's Resolve tree is all on the left before Strength, and the remaining 4 tiers go to the left side of Ferocity.

I liked two of the rune pages I tried. One was AS reds and quints with normal resistances in yellow and blue. This makes kiting super-easy even without a leash if you start Krugs. The other was hybrid penetration reds, scaling CDR quints, three scaling CDR blues, three scaling HP yellows, and then the rest of the blues and yellows resistances. This one lets you hit 40/45% CDR with a single CDR item once you hit level 18. It's also the page I take for Karma solo lane and support.

As far as items go, I think your best damage choices are: Runic Echoes, Liandry's Torment, Rod of Ages, Abyssal Scepter, Void Staff, Lich Bane, Nashor's Tooth, Morellonomicon, Athene's Unholy Grail, and whichever boots you feel you need. Nashor's is great for your clear and tower pushing, but not good for fighting in most cases. Lich Bane probably fills what you'd want from Karma's autos better, especially since her Q cooldown lines up well with the Spellblade. The other CDR items are fine, but I wasn't hurting for mana without them. You'll take a lot of damage in the jungle if you don't get any sort of attack speed, but it's not so bad once you get 1.5 to 2 items and can blow up camps before they hurt you.

In the clear, ignore Gromp until you have at least one full item. It does way too much damage and can't be kited as easily due to its range. Do the buffs first and then move on to Krugs if you're on red side, wrapping around to Raptors via top Scuttler if you're going for a full clear. Alternatively, gank top at level 3 or just go back. Anyway, your clear is fine but not great on Karma, so try to gank as much as you can. I don't think she likes either combat smite as much as smitestone, but YMMV.