Talk:Heimerdinger/@comment-80.15.143.26-20120601093240/@comment-5052127-20120605023111

Above poster has a point... There's a reason they called laning and seiging against him 'anti-fun'... and one of the reasons he needs a rework.

As Heimer, I rarely can kill the mid I'm laning against, no matter how much I stack early AP and mpen... I CAN play aggressive, zone, harass a lot, and win the lane in a non-passive way, but as far as kills... most of the time I can only get a kill against an enemy mid in lane if they are really dumb. Either they are stupid enough to stick around with 'rocket=dead' health and I kill them with a quick flash->rocket or towerdive past their minions, or they try and help their jungler gank me when they already have low health, or they chase me recklessly and get caught in my turrets and/or stun.

He's definitely NOT like anivia or leblanc or annie who can easily kill you from full health with one spell chain in lane if you make a single misstep. He can get you low, but he's easy to get away from... To die, you REALLY have to screw up BAD... usually you have to chase him recklessly past his turrets all the way down lane while they beat on you, get hit with a rocket AND run straight into one of his grenades; and even then, you will probably live several more seconds while he waits for his rockets to come off cooldown or prays that his turrets can finish you off before you either get away or kill him. Overall, you tend to only die against Heimer in lane if you chase him in an especially stupid way.