Talk:Jarvan IV/@comment-81.44.172.184-20121101131042/@comment-81.44.172.184-20121101172039

thx nash, thought i already took a look at that build and i follow it more or less, i find taht the brutalizer is a bad idea if you dont go vs a low hp champ (talon, xin...) who can be easily beaten, because despite the cdr you have low mana and cat spams the combo taht much, jsut the Q. i prefer to get a madreds ( the 1000g item) and that's why i thought about upgrading in loate to a madred's bloodrazor. i tried and it goes well vs tanky team (i was vs 2 guys with 4k hp so... :D ) i also thought on this: mercury+randuins+TF+FoN+warmog+atmas it gives you nice AD boost and more critchance with some armor. with this you end up with like 220 armor and 180-200 Mr i think and nice dmage and hp. they thing why i dont like the bt on jarvan is that i usually go soo deep in the teamfight i get focused by the carry, so without enought armor and hp i get raped.

well, suggestions and critics accepted from here :D