Talk:Renekton/@comment-4832742-20120415160237/@comment-77.21.84.148-20120415170127

yep decent if played good,

but if should somehow have a bad early game u are completly screwed, if u dont get fed early u will be useless late game (useless in the meaning of USELESS not just weak)

''Renekton is decent champion who doesnt need any buffs to be usable. ''

correct he doesnt need buffs to be usable, but he needs buffs to be viable by default and viable in competitive play, cause:

noob to renekton: unstoppable feeding machine, absoloutly useless

advanced knowledge with rene: usefull with early feed, lategame/without feed: burden to his team

good with rene: early good with feed, lategame: weak, without feed: burden to his team

pro with rene: early strong with feed, lategame: average, weak without feed

me and all the good/ pro renektons dont want him to be OP, cause he will be permaban, but we would like him to be stronger so we can use him in high elo without givivng the enemy free wins or an easy time