Talk:Garen/@comment-26859675-20160807132747/@comment-26859675-20160808225808

I agree with everything Berryeater said. His passive is useless pre-16 and in lane it is like it is designed to make him a b*tch since your always getting bullied away from the creeps while you slowly regen. Also to "compensate" for his passive riot gave him low health regen, so % based health regen items and the mastery perseverance aren't as good on him as other top laners.

Giving him more armor and mr for free would also be good as it would mean that he can invest more in damage, so that it doesn't feel like I'm swinging around a wet noodle.

Riot have allowed Darius to be objectively stronger in every regard which makes me feel like they've just forgotten about Garen and abandoned him to obscurity and as training wheels for newcomers to the game.