User blog comment:Tails365/A true tank's role/@comment-5605969-20140127020849/@comment-5605969-20140127160749

You are correct on that arguement. But you show lack of knowledge or just forgot. What I said was a champion that could have 1 damage based skill, and that skill could or could not be for greater utility. Rammus ulti is purely for dmg (unless you count tower dmg towards utility). Ofc I am not saying that a champions should only have huge cc and no dmg at all. What I am saying is that said champion should instead have a kit that's heavilty focused on tanking and disrupting. Having a dmg skill with or without utility is fine. The reason why I dont put Rammus in the bruisers page is his terrible AS. If he had good AS then I would put him in the bruiser role, for his ulti and passive are dmg oriented.

My idea of a true tank is kinda... weird, so it's why people have trouble understanding it. It should be someone who benefits poorly from dmg items (like a rabadon's on Sejuani. Pretty crappy), scales greatly with tank items (like Zac's passive, Nautilus W) and can sometimes get dmg from those (Galio and Rammus' passive, Sejuani's W). However, they shouldn't be able to kill alone unless going off path with build (or a rammus with a thornmail and extreme HP). Zac I could consider a bruiser, since he was played top a lot in S3, but ultimately decided to put him on tank.

I could build full tank Irelia with triforce, tank all and melt faces. Should she be considered a tank? No, since thats not her main build. True. So going dmg roles on the tanks does not make them less tanks. Shyvana is a tank cuz of her passive. Maybe ulti. But what else? Everything else is dmg oriented, and E scales with AS, so she must be considered a bruiser. Vi's E is dmg oriented, W is too, so bruiser. But that's not only that. If a champ scales well with a mix set of dmg and defense, then the Off-tank should be considered to them. Amumu does get Abissal and Rilay's for more CC, and I've seen a few even going for Liandry's as well. That's 3 items. Not fair for a tank to be able to be tank and buy dmg. So i don't include him. True you can do this on many other tanks, but they lose a lot of the effect.

It's hard to see my point of view. If you can't after reading 20 times my explanation of what a true tank is to me, then I can't share my vision with you. Again, it's an opinion, so i't value only goes so far.