Talk:Shen/@comment-25855686-20160130082049/@comment-5605969-20160131043347

Max cdr not only increases energy consumption, but the energy regeneration mostly comes from attack speed (from Q) At most you can recover 20 energy after Q, and if you hit 5, 20 after E. Taunt, most times will taunt 2/3, so 100 energy goes away off the bat. Q can regenerate 20, but you need the 3 autos. And his W is 40. So usually you end up using 120 energy per combo after you use 1 combo with a 2 man taunt.

As for build, if you decide to go to Black Cleaver, dont. Your E and autos proc it, and that is it. You barely benefit from it. If you still want to use it, then Titanic Hydra is a must. it will mostly be to benefit your team, so appying it to as many people as possible is what you want to go for. Well, to be fair, Titanic Hydra is pretty much Shen's core now.

As for best other items: Thornmail (a very good Shen item), Wit's End (although considered niche, it increases dueling to 11, as well as make you great at split pushing). Abissal Scepter (MR penetration? check, Magic Resistance? Check. B) and Sunfire Cape (this + Abissal Scepter = good aoe damage. this + Titanic Hydra = splitpush beast). Unfortunately, although SV is considered very good, Shen lost his sustain. I prefer Banshee's Veil, simply because the SV ON shen (unless you get a gunblade or some other crazy item for sustain) is pretty wasted. You can however, combine it with Warmog's Armor.

Final Items that offer niche's, but good patterns of play should you be able to achieve it: Triforce (great dueling potential, since Q can proc it always, but very expensive and not what shen needs), Frozen Mallet(HP shen likes, and slow is awesome, but Titanic Hydra is better for HP and damage), Iceborn Gauntlet (AoE slow is awesome, but great waste in mana), Dead Man's Plate(great mobility, but usually slow is wasted on taunt. Also, Sunfire cape takes its spot)

Overall, new Shen, new Meta. Just keep experimenting and when you find a build you play well with, keep it.