Talk:Riven/@comment-26177260-20160804152510/@comment-26203093-20160820010217

How could he beat her if he was never there?

Not really undertuned, but mistuned - her damage scaling still makes squishies much more desireable than the other two. The kit, playstyle, control, patience requirement, and usually squishy build makes her seem like she's meant to play like the other two, but attacking multiple opponents as opposed to singling others out, but the change to AD items made it harder for her, and she cares too much about who her targets are unlike yasuo who gets armour pen through his ult, and doesn't get out-damaged by almost anyone, anyway, and fiora who gets % health true damage.

Also her ult doesn't deal % health damage, but increases based on current health, making her still want to execute squishies. Which is fine, honestly, I think that gives that specific ability the fun challenge of focusing squishies despite ideally skirting the fights during coordinated teamfights, or darting in and out to disrupt and land the ult before returning to safety.

She also has a lot higher vulnerability to ranged during teamfights, unlike a good yasuo, but that seems like a fair trade for the melee disruption focus she has instead. It's also why I think she should be allowed to increase the disruption on what seems to be objectively the worst ability to rank up. Maybe reducing the cooldown further instead of increasing the disruption is better to keep the skill demand tight, though.

Her assassination side also took a hit alongside the other assassins during the item retuning, but unlike them, she's not been retuned yet. Not meaningfully anyway. Though this could return her to that state. Though because it's free damage, you still get that while building defensive, so who knows. It'll make her stronger in both roles.