Talk:Swain/@comment-178.40.2.237-20120128022238/@comment-4012115-20120201075836

Don`t think vlad damage can bring down swain with blue buff with equal items .. veigar is a problem indeed but for that i got my mr from abyssal/chalice .... you could try QSS+hourglass too vs veigar he stun you throw his ulti u QSS and block it with hourglass