Talk:Heimerdinger/@comment-26177260-20170525160427/@comment-28529352-20170525220713

> Beat the turrets so they don't beam spam you.

> Dodge the telegraphed skillshots, W in particular is very easy.

> Dive the shit out of him when he has only 1 turret because his stats are absolutely terrible (Veigar is tankier than him.VEIGAR).

> Don't pick an melee champion.

So, basically, almost all you did vs old Heimer. The only difference is that he can actually fight back instead of accepting his uselesness