Talk:Ryze/@comment-25489490-20170924050045/@comment-32713812-20180415044135

As a Ryze main I would love that! Though that would be so overpowered in the early game. I can wipe a minion wave at lv2 for 160-200 mana in like 10s. That's 6 minions for 90 mana return or 7 for 105 mana return. That would be such a huge return on investment at Ryze's most vulnerable point. I feel like his early game should be heavily reliant on mana management to prevent Ryze from becoming too ridiculous. I mean, I run Ryze top as well and take my Jglers Krugs. The mana return would be sweet on that as well considering I can spend 95 mana to kill the 6 baby krugs and get 90 mana back. That would just be insane.

TL:DR - Awesome Idea, Too OP, Early Game Ryze should be about mana management