Talk:Veigar/@comment-27063405-20151010192521/@comment-26837195-20151013072324

Veigar's Q is kinda average, his W requires set up with E most of the time so a 14-8 second ability with 100% AP isn't that good... He's also 1 damaging ability short...

He's great against other AP champs, but once he uses his combo he's kinda useless for the next 14 seconds. 180 extra AP does make the times he *is* useful a whole lot sweeter.