Talk:Riven/@comment-4888212-20130909235527/@comment-4834593-20130915170908

Dishonoring, you could say.

It's good though. EQ is about as good as the average gapcloser, stun after it, together with laner damage, if you start Doran's Blade, it's about as good as playing lane Riven and getting a gank every minute. The only difference is that you do the ganks, instead of getting them, and that the gold from the other people participating in the gank is spread out more.

I went 12/1/5 with it yesterday.

Oh, by the way, don't bother upgrading Machete (or even buying it, if you're confident starting Doran's Blade). Straight damage is just better.