Talk:Karthus/@comment-108.4.17.67-20111029184531/@comment-3238314-20111101181022

^ what you may want to get inside your head is that abilities without numbers are can have all the punch they want, and most important of all, that when she came out, she was heavily outclassed, and after champs at that time got nerfed, and things got into the following meta, she came out and shone.