Talk:Riven/@comment-7633726-20130410032214/@comment-7846894-20130410204823

I swear as soon as I say this he's going to be all like, but that's the exception! Fizz is all melee until he gets his ult, very comparable to Riven since we're talking about mobility and range. While your thoughts seem good on paper it's obvious you haven't had much experience. Jungle Riven is awful by the way, works but not as good as many other junglers and she scales better in lane. Let me explain, although I haven't played Riven mid I know her playstyle well. I would go for either a sustain lane or all in lane, ie pots, ward, elixer and go for an early kill around 2-3 and mids are SO squishy they will indefinately die to even just a lvl 2 combo. From there they can't hope to go against you as you do so much more damage. You'd need to Ryze, Vlad, or Fizz to escape without being hit by Riven guaranteed. Lux is full of skill shots that can be dodged. Elise can be beat by Riven top, why wouldn't she be beat mid? If the Riven is denied however then yeah, you can assume she's basically lost the lane. Not everything is black and white bro.