Talk:Sejuani/@comment-74.93.5.162-20120117163701/@comment-76.122.46.112-20120117184138

Assuming both are level 5 without taking any of the bonuses in (The AD and AP equate each other out, since Fire is 0.2 AD and Ice is 0.1 AP and AP cost half as much as AD):

Ice: Dot: 36 Total: 180

Fire: DoT: 85 Total: 255

So at a 75 point difference, that means that Ice needs an additional 15 DoT to match Fire's total damage. At 2% max HP bonus, that's gained at 750 HP - Which you'd have before you even max Ice.

Same at level 1: It would require Sejuani to gain 3 DoT bonus via HP, or 300 HP.

And that doesn't include if the target is frosted. In that case, Ice breaks down as: DoT: 54 Total: 270

So if the enemy is frosted, Ice is > Fire even without taking in account the HP bonus. Then take that in at level 18 and you're looking at 567 total damage compared to Fire's 255. Even if Shyvana is in Dragon Mode and can keep it up for 6 seconds, you're looking at 510 damage -> still less then Ice's, and doesn't take into account HP from equipment.

So, no to the anon above, Ice > Fire :)