Talk:Graves/@comment-9775822-20150919193228/@comment-5955640-20151023170922

I've played with him. I've played against him. I've played as him. I don't know what playing him recently would do unless something has happened in the last week my most recent play with Urgot which wasn't even a month ago asserted what I already know. That Urgot is terrible.

I put a ton of effort into optimizing marksman whenever they come into lane. I can make Marksman Teemo work.

But even after thorough exprimentation I cannot make Urgot's laning phase a seemless experience against the most meta opponents.

Early game bullies make their name by being successful at bullying and using that momemtum to take the game. If you can't do that then you are no bully. You are nuisance that needs to sit on the bench and wait for a rework.