Talk:Fizz/@comment-112.202.41.11-20120701001720/@comment-4834593-20120702163853

^I've seen a Talon carry very well. But he was that fed that the damage from ult in and out together already took something like 70% of the health of my carry.

Also, Fizz CAN farm well. I haven't had a single game yet with Fizz in which I did not outfarm my enemy mid lane. His passive is also great for farming, because you, as melee, never have to walk around minions.