Talk:Nocturne/@comment-3213627-20110515003208

Still think he's OP. I haven't played him since free week, but something along the lines of teleport/ghost/smite is amazing. He's at Sivir's level in pushing: has a 10s AoE ability AND his innate(go behind tower, q when enemy minions come, autoattack minions once for umbra blades, continue attacking tower, umbra blade minions again). If you need extra time to kill a tower, pop your ult; you'll get 2 more ults by the time teleport is back up, and you've just prevented a teamfight by pushing sidelane anyways. His teamfight damage isn't that good, but he's an AD carry, after all.

Seriously, is there any reason to even play Sivir (as a DPS) anymore? 20% reduced damage on q means you're already down to 10% damage after 10 hits (ie, hitting 5 MINIONS going and back), Nocturne has a better spell shield, he actually has cc, he has his AD, MS, and AS steroids.The effect of ricochet in pushing is similar to that of 2 umbra blades. Number nerfs on his abilities mean nothing, because most of the time in a push is spent on movement, not killing.