Talk:Shyvana/@comment-26001789-20150409071259/@comment-26001789-20150423222051

Cinderhulk is actually cost inneficient by itself. The stats are just barely 70% cost efficient and only increases the efficency of the item. The problem comes that, yes, Junglers are on a budget and the Enchant is not really good by itself, because you are put into a lane where you can farm and get Gold, the item efficiency starts to ramp up very fast, very quickly and then you have the problem of Skirmisher Saber adding a lot of value to that enchant. Coupled with the fact that Cinderhulk grants damage added on top of Skirmisher added on top of scaling, that makes the combination of Skirmisher Cinderhulk to be so good that TopLaners are sacrificing Flash to access the item.

If Bonus HP gets to be his own item, I rather have it as how Ancient Golem in S4 was than how Skirmisher Cinderhulk is right now.