Talk:VPBE/@comment-1876049-20151115213322/@comment-35229418-20151118182330

I see your reasoning, but how can a losing team turtle until the 40 minutes unless the enemy team is just making lots of mistakes, like eager/forced engages? If it's the team composition (for example, a team with Skarner and Olaf vs a team with Lee Sin and Shen), the losing team should be able to turn the tables around, even if by minute 40.