User blog comment:TeaIsExplosive/A petition against the foul oppressor of Summoner's Rift/@comment-5077844-20130609173837/@comment-9048637-20130610145555

I'd just like to point out, on the subject of Sejuani, that she's a late-game monster. Yeah, at full build, she's basically a juggernaut. She has to get that far, though. Her early game is pretty shite; if you counterjungle her early, then she'll fall behind and basically just be an underfed tank for the rest of the game. Maybe she did need a nerf or two, granted, as is often the way following a major champion rework, but I suspect Riot may have gone a bit too far here (nearly half the HP scalings on her W? Seriously?).

Plus, even late-game as it is, she has weaknesses. For a start, since her tank steroid is innate, it's necessarily not as strong as other tank steroids. She can't out-tank the likes of Shen, Malphite or even Nautilus, because they just have better defensive steroids. And while her CC is pretty nasty, it's not the worst in the game - her Q is not going to match a good old-fashioned taunt for peeling purposes any time soon, and even her ult, known as a fantastic initiator, pales in the face of Malphite's. That's why she deals damage despite building tank - she needs it to stay relevant in a team fight, otherwise no one will pay any attention to her. And even then, if she just builds straight health to maximize her damage, she'll have no resistances worth speaking of and the carry/assassin/whoever will just instagib her, humongous health bar or none.

So yeah, while I'm not going to say that the "pig bitch", as you so delightfully put it, wasn't in need of any balance changes at all, I think you're egging it a bit too far - and unfortunately, Riot seem to have listened to the likes of you. You know what I think is the problem? People just don't know how to counter her. Before the rework, she was barely ever played, so people have only really gotten to know her since then. No one seems to have twigged yet that shutting down Sejuani early on is what you need to do. Treat her as you would Nasus - go into her jungle, steal all her farm, send her packing if she tries to stop you. You'll suddenly find she's a lot less scary. I know, because I play Sejuani a lot, and whenever I get counterjungled (which is rare; like I say, no one seems to have figured out yet that it's both easy and necessary), I nearly always fall off hard; I only manage to come back if my team carries me''. ''It's sad, really, that what we're witnessing here is the high-level equivalent of new players complaining about someone like Yi or Katarina OP just because they haven't worked out that hard CC is a thing yet. But there you go. Wherever you are, people aren't so different after all.

(Oh, also: Thresh is nasty, end of story. I don't care how much damage he deals, the utility he brings is bad enough. OP? Not significantly, but probably slightly. He'd still be high on my list of permabannable champions, just because he's a nightmare to lane against when played well.)