Talk:Garen/@comment-77.98.249.112-20120811024939/@comment-80.15.143.26-20120811171618

i go merc to keep from being CCed too much

swiftness is a noobtrap, you have your Q, a bit ms is not going to make up for CC reduction and aditional mr

i agree, garren is NOT a tank, he needs let's say warmog and maybe a randuin for tankiness late game  but first you need brutalizer / IE to destroy squishies while still silenced , people fail to understand that champs like garren / riven who use a lot their abilities and need lots of AD to scale well late need to build the AD first to get those kills going  because early-mid is their strong point ,  make them imba by getting more ad and then use gold from snowballing to get tankiness,

thats what i do with my jungle riven: boots double doran bf sword, BT to  get kills on ganks, it works wonders  and snowballs like hell, like yesterday i played 5 games on her in jungle :

9/1 and 10/1: ( good games really got kills early and snowballed)

2/4( bad game happens =p )

17/1 ( 3 kills in a row on rumble top he ragequited and then i just roamed and was basically a hunt game)

12/10 (not a bad game .. but 72 minutes game and in the end against a nasus well him and shen focused me and it was hard to get kills =p)

the numbers jsut to show you that going all out ad on champs who have good early-mid game damage allows easier snowballing

then again it was in normals, i'm not pro , the others weren't either just giving arguments about my opinion on gear for that kinda champ.