Talk:Vi/@comment-24090792-20140301215731/@comment-9705522-20140314182002

then you are a guy who is lucky enough to see a one in a hundred chance every game with vi. i mean, lets be real. its going to hit the target, no matter what. its going to hit the frontline. its going to hit the support probably too. so the only person who will most likely not be hit, in a non jungle situation ... is the mage. sej and amumu? tough luck, neither do it as well. this is because vis ult has a total of 1550 range AND can bypass the frontline while ccing it, while both sej and amumu cant. amumu wont be able to hit his q on the adc, unless he is seriously out of position. so he will only be able to q the frontline, and unless he has flash, all he will be ulting is really ... the frontline. and anybody who is out of position. sej, same thing.

vi actually doesnt need to get a damage item to deal damage. she can be full tank and still deal damage like a 2 offensive item amumu or sej. as for vi suiciding, yes. but she is suiciding while trading a kill. namely her target. as she will most likely be able to kill em before they can respond, since the cc is wonky. (really, vi shouldnt be able to take action before her target can). sure, her ult isnt as safe as sej, but at the same time, sej can ult, and if her team isnt fast enough to catch up ... that ult aint gonna do ****. and the carry in the backline? unless you got an assasin on the outskirts, he isnt gonna be affected.

maokais ganks are actually worse, since he has to get in range for his w in the first place. vi can just q ult.

sej has a total of 1800 range, yeah. only problem? its a skillshot. a slow skillshot. a slow narrow skillshot. a slow narrow skillshot that if it doesnt hit only slows. a slow narrow skillshot that also has to wait for her qs backswing time. not to mention, if it hits the frontline, which it will, its range aint doing ****.

you are vi, who just landed behind the furthest member of the enemy team, with a split frontline, and her team following up. none of the stuff you said actually matters at that point.

... did you miss the part where the adc is vis target, and if he somehow lives long enough to survive the duration of her ult cc, he is so low that if he doesnt retreat he is going to die the very second vis q is up? so of course, if the adc could fight, she would survive that long. problem is, the adc cant fight, and the rest doesnt deal enough damage.