Talk:Jarvan IV/@comment-81.44.172.184-20121101131042/@comment-82.113.98.89-20121128145310

i've played jarvan for several months, and no, hes not an assasin. his only good hard cc is an easily dodgeable knockup, his cataclysm can even be tumbled over by vayne. his shield is so awful, even in teamfights and basically any decent farmed or fed ad carry whipes the floor eith him in a duel, hisattack speed steroid is worse than most ad carry's and he has no natural sustain mechanism. jarvan acts like an initiator for trades and teamfights, and then should soak up the damage as a meat shield, which malphite and amumu are better at.