Talk:Udyr/@comment-122.3.172.40-20120830233201/@comment-122.3.172.40-20120901063854

Karma`s Mantra is still considered an ultimate despite it being vailable at lvl 1. Same goes for Jayce as well. Both Mantra and Transform can be leveled up to only rank 3, whereas Udyr have 4 "normal" skills which can be leveled up to a maximum rank of 5, albeit not all of them.