Talk:Graves/@comment-1439531-20111102234741/@comment-3238314-20111103185524

Well you see, Dirrwen, tanky dps are good because they go in the enemy team's face and block the tide of damage as long as it takes for your squishy carry to melt the enemy team's faces. If you play graves as tanky dps, then yes, you can go in close, and you can also enjoy dealing no damage. Graves's Q in late game isn't to go in and do tons of damage to the enemy team, that's what your E is for. It's to punish them for coming close to you.