Talk:Ardent Censer/@comment-25099814-20140624110755/@comment-25099814-20140626102042

I think thresh needs defensive stats.. It feels like if you build the censer for him, you only build it for the attack speed buff.

So you get the attackspeed buff vs 2200 gold worth of defensive stats, something Thresh needs badly. I honestly dont think any support except Alistar, karma or maybe, just maybe Janna should get this. And then i mean like last item, it doesnt feel worth rushing. Janna sure could use that ap, a little cd that can be found on other items, manareg = get a chalice, that builds into mikaels is way better imo. The only thing Janna can get the passive from is her singletarget E and her R. Would you use Janna R to fight? Its a disengage, so when you push those enemies away, your team gets an AS buff.

They should just redesign this, in my opinion.