Talk:Graves/@comment-24704296-20141201125937/@comment-5077844-20141203001012

Everytime Lucian gets banned people who are used to playing him pick graves instead because he works in a similar, but worse, manner.

I have the smae problem as you. I jsut fail at the whole damage thing...

Either way, Graves does snowball very hard because of how his whole kit has a lot of burst and free defense that let'S him outdamage people easily if he is ahead. If he isn't, he's still a wavecelaring farm ADC (like Lucian), so that sorta gives him some saftey...I guess?

either way, he's the one ADC to not have any outstanding qualities other than burst, which is done btter by Lucian (then again lucian's getting nerfs to early, so graves might shine again)

I wish for graves buffs, or some sort of identity in his kit, but i guess he works...just not for everyone