Talk:Garen/@comment-5009341-20120602181623

so i was today trying garen in coop vs ai as jungler (for first win of day),

he did horrible for 2 reasons:

1. his passive was only able to kick in when i moved from camp to camp, but since it took less then 7 sec i hadnt a passive.

2. the dmg reduction on creeps of his e is just to much for the cd itz uses.

therefore garen might use the teemo and hecarim treatment:

1. his passive will only be disabled by champion damage (reducing the health per sec healed to 0.4-0.45% would be fair)

2. his e deals more damage to creeps (like 75% instead of 50, since the cd is much hidher and wont be reduced by multiple casting)