Talk:Udyr/@comment-70.79.143.203-20111130060402/@comment-189.135.94.43-20111218231640

The problem is that you are treating Udyr as a full tank, when really hes a bruiser. When you gank, you need to stun and then phoenix as you chase, since Phoenix is AOE and need no target. You can even sometimes follow to turret for kill, since you have turtle. If you really cant gank well, get flash. Flash + bear can almost garantee a kill. In teamfights, you should be using r,q,w,e repeat for max damage, making other team either focus you, in which case you can tank well enough with a lot of dmg, or they ignore you, in which case you do a lot of dmg