Talk:Elise/@comment-82.17.44.13-20121021173515/@comment-97.77.55.35-20121022072813

Except udyr doesn't have an ulti... He just has 4 skills. And Karma's isn't a toggle, it just empowers her next ability. Jayce and Nida are the obvious comparisons, Jayce being op as hell top lane, second only to rengar.