Talk:Taliyah/@comment-31982182-20170519164710

After all her nerfs and then buffs, I don't really know that they've done anything to fix how... weak it feels to play her.

Casting Q on worked ground just feels so so pointless. You only get half mana back even though you're throwing 1/5 rocks, and there's no difference in cooldown. It feels like a complete waste every time I do it. Maybe instead of the damage changes, change how many rocks she throws in the worked/nonworked ground. Like 4 on unworked and 2 on worked? Or maybe even switch it, so instead of basically sabotaging yourself you set up your worked ground to be able to do more damage and put it on a lower cool down. 2 rocks on unworked, 4 rocks on worked, and lower the cooldown significanlty from 100 (Maybe to 40 seconds?) so you have to set yourself up to do more damage.

And her passive. I hate her passive. Sure, it's a very fun animation and i love the rock cowabunga but it's such a weak passive. Especially when you look at really ANYONE else's passive. I think that the Rock Surfing could be a passive you get when you unlock your ulti Weavers Wall, they're both really good for roaming and easily could go hand in hand. Then give her a REAL passive that actually works with and helps her kit so that she doesn't feel so weak.

They love 3rd Auto-Attack passives. Maybe 3 autoattacks marks your target and they're weaker to your E, either more damage when you lay it down or they're slowed by an extra 10%. Or while you move faster on your worked ground, they are slowed slightly on it. Or like Sona, every time you've used all three of your main abilities you get a small boost in damage or maybe a small heal. There's so many things they could do on her that would give her way more satisfaction to play.

As things are, she just feels so weak, even when you get fed and do tons of damage, it doesn't feel strong like when you get fed as a different champ to me. I don't think this is a numbers issue, I think a minor rework is needed. Just something like what I mentioned to make her FEEL better to play.