Talk:Garen/@comment-28465461-20170227025328/@comment-28465461-20170302130318

Glad someone likes the suggestion. Appreciated.

@Kurai

Q changes, well the current Q just sucks, let's be honest. The silence duration is too short and you talk about him swinging his sword upwards at someone to knockup makes no sense, well him jumping and swinging his sword down just to shut someone up makes even less sense. Anyway, AD reduction would hurt AD focused champions like Zed/Khazix/Lucian or even from base AD meaning they will do lower damage with both autos and physical damaging abilities alike. He gets to have some hard CC (Fighters / Tanks always have CC)

W Changes sounds like a very unfun change but he would have mana costs (with mana and mana regen as I would say), in order for him to do this combo, it should eat up a lot of mana early game, like tristana with her jump resets.

E is meant to "spin to win", and it does make sense for him to gapclose or even escape with it, you move around kiting/sticking and let the skill do the work, the random movement speed does sound akward though.

R Why no? To be quite fair, I actually hate  true damage in a champion's kit. But for garen it makes sense because it does just damage that scales out of enemy's missing health. Its not as toxic as let's say... Darius's ult which is clearly a physical attack but instead he does true damage and deals more damage based on how much bleed stacks he have and resets on execution. Even better, Olaf with mixed (or magic) damage that it looks that scales off of AD, Irelia doing on-hit true damage on a basic ability for each attack or Master Yi, scaling on-hit true damage that scales hard with AD. I find that more unfair to be honest (not darius though)