Talk:Udyr/@comment-98.118.45.33-20120220012844/@comment-86.148.206.9-20120321120529

^ And what happens when your Mordekaiser pushes top lane? Suddenly no gank. Planning to gank at fixed levels is a poor idea. Jungling is all about awareness and prediction. For example, their Morde will start REALLY pushing lane at rank 5. So when he hits rank 4, I'm going to make my way up there, wait for a clear wave, run at him and maul his face off. Bot lane's winning really hard and they have a Lee Sin jungler. I'll wait in Tri brush and hope to intercept him and potentially kill him/force a recall. Jungle planning should only be as far as your initial camp routes, with regular observations of the game state. It's particularly relevant with Shyvana and Udyr because their clear speed allows for some insanely fast counter-jungles.