Talk:Riven/@comment-24090792-20131222044754

Care Level is totally right these nerfs to top lane items and top carries like riven and nasus will effectivly reduce the champ rooster to just adc and assassins and a few junglers and supports to back them up think about it you have your normal adc bot yes but pick an assassin mid not a mage and an adc top ( twitch, vayne, graves, jayce or jinx ) not a fighter and have have a jungler like amumu, nauti or someone with aoe cc and hard cc and a support in a similar logic like leona and ban junglers and supps who can disrupt this rythem or qq about them so riot might nerf them too ( they are few btw ) and here what will happen :

1- top lane will suffer and will be useless since riot plans to nerf top items and have top carries with 0 kill potential early and mid game ( nerfs to riven and nasus and i heared shyv too but dont know about that but it will be sad cuz she is strong top laner but kinda hard to itemize since she got lots of strange mixed damage and scalings more than jax which is easier to itemize for ... btw i do expect riot to nerf jax too since a lot are qqing about him recently ) and since most adc have 1 or 2 cc and/or disengagement skills and have the longest range and most damaging pokes ( kinda spamy too ) along with their range .... have a nice day top laning dude and forget about being of any use all game

2- in teamfights abuse your ranged team by staying paced a little but enough to cover each other range and see what will happen you have aoe cc in both supp and jungle so if you got the initiation along with all the damage your team have and extra cc and relocation skills on your adc 1 adc focuses the jungler and the other focuses the now useless and underfarmed top laner since they are mostly caught up by the initiation while the mage is forced to hit your jungler who initiated since all of your team are ranged so it will be hard for him to cover all that space without being massacered by the jungler who will rush to him after he did  the initiation while his other teammates are locked in cc by the supp and the adc leaving the assassin free to pick what he wants as a wild card