Talk:Veigar/@comment-25532677-20160512061403/@comment-26572180-20160613132752

considering with his new passive he can easily hit 1400 ap pre30min his q will do at least 30% of the enemies health unless they are galio or malzahar. His new ult still has a high enough ratio and base damage to nuke someone with qr, and even enemies that stack magic resist that could beat the old viegar can't deal with his full rotation now. Veigar now does slightly worse against squishies but still can end up deleting them thanks to his new passive and he can now murder tanks. His ult might be slightly weaker overall but it's a gaurenteed execute on tanks below 50% hp with his ridiculous ap. His ult is more well rounded now and his ap is scary. I don't care if it's slightly weaker overall when he now has twice the ap he used to. I used to finish games with 800-900 ap on old veigar. But with his new passive I present to you this: how to deal with a veigar with over 1600 ap, voidstaff and sorcerors shoes and 60% ap ration on q and 75% ap ratio on his r? Answer buy a banshees veil or just accept that you're dead. Because I don't care how tanky you are, if you take the brunt of that full rotation you'll be dead.