Talk:Twisted Fate/@comment-11258819-20130625171509/@comment-7953305-20130627124127

No, TF support is shit, your Q and E has absolutely no utility and does like no damage if you don't build AP. If you want pokes just play Sona/Lulu/Zyra or even Thresh, they are 10 times more useful than TF without having to build AP.

These so called 'mage supports' are here because people couldn't get mid in ranked and decided to play AP bot just to ruin your day, they build a philostone and a lucky pick then farm creeps and go deathcap and shit, provides a tiny bit of utility and damage and buy like 1 or 2 wards. They may win some games but if your team is behind they don't do shit, they can't even peel a Garen off your ADC and won't even outdamage other supports much, 'mage supports' are just AP Carries who are 4k gold behind and takes your farm and shit