Talk:Luden's Echo/@comment-5224716-20150312121732/@comment-26202241-20150314113440

the only champs it works best on are champs that can get 5 ap items and not need another. kat can make the best use of it. cass while it sounds good on paper needs rab,zhonyas, void, boots, mana item, and either second mana item or rylais so theres just no room. wish it procced off all direct damage spells so it would be fun on ap gp or ap ez but it doesnt work on the qs so pointless. can work on lb and veigar but with the absence of dfg think veigar would rather have archangels or something defensive. the item sounds good on paper but it doesnt fill the hole dfg made. its funny but i think its better on ap supports cuz of the utility it provides and maybe even slightly tailored to bard as he has one damage spell so having that extra aoe and ms is just awesome. but in most ap mids builds they have their 5 core and general idea of a 6th item so it just doesnt fit and definitely cant beat out rab or zhonya those are just staple. man it just sucks cuz i was really excited to whip out the ap gp again. shame cuz the only thing it can bring is a little extra burst on the gp ult