Talk:Lee Sin/@comment-3166305-20120719160223/@comment-15562896-20120720035623

Udyr is a strong diver as well, he trades mobility for incredible natural tankiness.

Actually when I play Gragas, Udyr is easily one of the most annoying junglers (easily one of the two worst with Skarner) simply because his of his shield + innate tankiness + will likely build Wit's end = can towerdive me as much as he wants, I simply won't kill him.

It is true however that I can escape his ganks pretty easily - much more than Skarner's -, but I tend to be way too agressive as Gragas and easily be baited into a 1v1.