Talk:Rengar/@comment-202.138.180.33-20130312081812/@comment-8506165-20130730154608

I find Rengar jungle to be in a really bad state because of his awful first clear.

He is seriously the only champ actually tagged as "jungler" that I've almost been executed with if I don't get a leash (and there are plenty that aren't that are still in a way better state than him). You pretty much have to use EmpW whenever it's up to save your ass.

Ganks are alright pre-6 because E is a fairly strong slow but until you get some decent feed you won't do that much damage yourself unless you're lucky enough to get them standing near brush. Without the initial leap you're reduced to just walking out into the lane with your base MS and chucking E as soon as you can and hoping your laner's stuck to them because you'll need to catch up unless they're pushed hard.

Post-6 ganks are where he excels. But I find he's just such a poor jungler before that that it's not really worth playing him there because you're basically playing an awful jungler for one good gank per 2 minutes post-6 (140s CD on the ult -.-)