Talk:Renekton/@comment-4948122-20120812162547/@comment-4948122-20120812205042

You have a good point rapacious...but heres the problem:While renekton is succesfully played in tournament play,its because the certain player has quite high experience of the said champion.Yep renekton has the ability to snowball early pretty bruttaly and be a monster midgame...and ofcouse fall lategame.THe only problem is that this kind of strategy would work on azubu blaze/M5,all others are too passive to make use of renektons early advantage.

ANd also its really easy to avoid the early game of renekton(hence why garen/pantheon/renekton) arent really played that much over there.Say you put renekton with irelia/jax.THey ask a gank against renekton and if it gets succesfull,those champs can diminish the early game of renekton and finish it quicker while reaching theyre lategame potential faster.Point is once renekton loses his early game and doesnt get enough farm/kills its over for him.He becomes a stun bot/damage soaker and pusher.Meanwhile those champs who are pretty weak early are gona dominate lategame and it will be pretty hard to kill them.Ofcourse the things that i said can apply to the oposite aswell.Point is Irelia/jax/nasus(even though he isnt played in tournies) can recover and still be really usefull lategame.Meanwhile renekton doesnt have this luxury.He is like a gambler.Its all or nothing.This is the main problem with him,and his bad scalings/animations arent helping either.While he needs a pretty significant change,i feel its a problem with the champs themselves.They are supposed to be godlike early and weaker lategame due to needing to get tankier to not die to fast.BUt its way too easy to bypass the only advantage a champ has and then destroy him.

SO as i said i really think the right aproach isnt to nececarly remove early power for lategame power.Nope,why change a characters uniquess?An anon mentioned below to buff renektons early game till it becomes as op as vaynes/irelias/jaxs lategame,and its acceptable because this will trully make renekton feel like a monster to be feared by all the toplaners and be carefully dealt with.

Conclusion:We shouldnt change the way certain champs were supposed to be,i like variety,stop making this game even more boring,dont remove the thing that makes those champs fun.Also zilla you are way too concerned with renekton being buffed to hard and nerfed then too hard just because he becomes too strong for qqers.ITs the players who are the problem and morello aswell for being too kind.Look at dota2.If you get yout ass quad raped in your first game and go to forums saying omfg huskar/magina/tiny op nerf them plox,EVERYBODY will say learn to adapt or go to hell.THis is something we need to change.THe fact that this game is too noobfriendly is more of a problem than a good thing(see stealth fate).