Talk:Udyr/@comment-4656084-20130627005434/@comment-4888212-20130630050341

OP is right, never get bear to 5, its just plain useless.

tiger and phoenix compliment each other very well, the AS to proc the phoenix damage, and the DoT stack can be loaded up while dealing burst damage with phoenix as well, while bear gives you passthrough, and a movementspeedbuff hitting the softcap with boots and lvl3bear. the 0.5sec arent worth it, get a CDR item and rather notch up for damage by a far lot.