Talk:Vladimir/@comment-33628828-20130623014718/@comment-33628828-20130623191121

Honestly, I play vlad mid or top but use the same build for both. I find that if I get caught by the ad bruiser top I'm screwed anyway (until I pool ofc :D), so I focus on farming and the usual high-AP build, though usually getting the armguard and zhonya's sooner than I usually do.

Are you sure about liandry's being a good item to ever get on vlad? Early s3 I included it in the build, but further analysis shows it to be a waste of gold from my perspective anyway. Compare it with a better spell penetration item, void staff. Void staff costs 600 less and grants 70AP rather than the 53 or whatever vlad gets from liandry's. Liandry's passive is virtually useless on vlad's q and e, only being good on his pool - but that should rarely be used offensively. The health is useless if you consider that my fully-built vlad has almost 4k health anyway, and with the mindset of him as a ap carry rather than strange off-tank.

The full build that you mention there does sound interesting though, I might try it just to see. It seems to sacrifice a lot of damage for tankiness, but that could be useful when going top vlad when the jungler picks some useless squish over something with some beef.