Talk:Thresh/Strategy/@comment-130.253.154.220-20130116175619

E + Q makes it impossible for anyone to safely engage you just outside turret range because if you land your backwards E and then you follow up and land Q once they leave the range your turret has already hit them 3-6 times and you have probably AA'd them 1-3 times (with Q's passive even) = dead. So basically lvls 1-6 just sit next to your turret and profit (its not like your passive's range is the size of nocturne's ult or anything). And on that  note the first tip for countering should be removed because, have you ever tried to zone a noc ult? without someone like pantheon? because if you have it probably didnt work out to well for you.