Talk:Thresh/@comment-63.131.44.25-20130111082434/@comment-75.149.13.21-20130111154228

His "true" passive is on his Q. +souls damage on-hit. Which is basicly the same as lulu's.

Otherwise, yea. The armor and AP gains are pretty much countered, and it just ends up being a gimmick that makes you walk into danger or waste mana.