Talk:Shen/@comment-36002403-20180711132233/@comment-28977071-20180713160018

Regarding, it depends. Clearly there must be a quantity of scaling at which building him 'd become cost-efficient.

When going for unusual build, one thing to keep in mind is if there is some sort of payback for all the trouble. I.e. that scaling in  case could have potential vs beefy teams. As for, such scaling'd imo make stuff such as more viable, but just as a secondary dmg source, up to a treshold. He'd still possibly focus on and defense.

I don't think the comparison fits. All the compared champs are strong tank casters with a lot of aggressive CC, while  dmg is also big but comes almost entirely from autos; plus his CC kit is sorta defensive/specialized. If guys had some offensive scalings then the conflict'd be  vs. In case, he barely has any other offensive scaling than  ( doesn't really offer DPS and  questionable as  effects tend to work better at that point).

Hence for, the question is "Dmg or survivability?". How much could he withstand? For other guys, it'd be just "Dmg via or ?".

It is pointless to ask what will do after spending his rotation when the items offer high CDR,  has 5s CD and recycles. And when items offer  scalings by themselves. He could just increase the pressure as long as he wasn't going to die.

A lot of people puts a lot of stress on scalings but imo the reality is that with all the scalings obtainable from items and runes, the innate scaling polarity of most (if not any, cough, ..) champs is much easier to reverse. This / diversion imo ended two seasons ago with announcement of strong scalings on runes/masteries. I am not saying that sticking to the scaling type is stupid. It is very wise to do so. Just not unconditionally in all situations.

All I'm saying is that I see a potential. I've been playing reworked in the past and he does lots of dmg even when going full tank with barely any offensive scalings from his own defense. Therefore my assumptions are that Rito picked those "low" scalings for a reason- so he wouldn't be broken by building.