Talk:Twisted Fate/@comment-24198515-20150108172831

Best CDR route for ap TF?

Here is how i see it: CDR is apparently a pretty good stat for TF, you can pull out your combo more frequently, having more global presence etc. Thats why the pros started to get Athene on him. His other core items are: Lich Bane, Rabandon, Zhonya, Void Staff, boots and u got one more place for a CDR orinted item. Question is, wich one? I think there is 5 viable CDR items for him, but none of them feels "completely used" if you know what i mean. I will explain anyways :D

1. Athene. I newer realy liked this item on TF simply becouse i feel like the mana regen is wasted. I know that its not completly tru, and having that extra bit of "playing room" definately not hurt, but still. Especially aftert the nerfs. Its still ok i think, but not my cup of tea (on TF).

2. Morello. Kind of the same deal as Athene, but i think of it as a situational item vs heavy sustained champs (mainly Swain mid). Thats about it.

3. Nashor. My personal favorite. I know that your lategame goal is havey burst, and u dont realy have the time to deal dps in a teamfight, but still, it synergizis well with your e and gives about the same ammount of stats then the items above, expect the regen. Wich isnt realy needed IMO.

4. Twin Shadows. I dont think i ever bought it on TF before, but now that i think about it, it looks viable. Definately going to try it :D The active is underestimated, it helps your kiting/chasing potential by quiet a bit, wich is useful for TF (thats why some people prefer double mobility summoner spells on him). Too bad it only gives 10% cdr. Maybe getting cdr boots alongside it would work? You got enough penetrations from void staff lategame anyways (especially vs squishyes).

5. DFG. I dont like this item, becouse i alwas mess up its active :D As TF, i almost always engage with a gold (or maybe red) cardthen instantly q, i feel like i just dont have the time for the DFG active. It could be just my disability, but still :D Also, once again, it only gives 10% CDR. Maybe getting both this and Twin shadows for the 20% in exchange of another item (Rabandon?) would worth it? Or CDR boots?

And then there is the CDR less path aswell. Or just 10%? I feel like its too few to realy count (again, could be my stupidity). What YOU suggest? Thx for reading, it got kinda long :D