Talk:Malzahar/@comment-69.146.96.55-20120721221645/@comment-88.186.19.90-20120723230911

Karthus is top tier because he can assist or secure kills without loosing farm, can powerfarm effectively while still hekping out in ganks and has a very strong lane presence.

Ryze is (was?) top tier because he has a very strong DPS and burst while building tanky. It was actually nerfed a few patches ago, he's just average now.