Talk:Riven/@comment-86.122.227.165-20111008211327/@comment-76.178.98.215-20111009015938

I have been having a lot of success maxing W and E first because of the CD reduction. I use Armor Pen Marks and Quints, are you sure the damage is better? I am flirting with the idea of keeping Armor Pen Marks and AD Quints, but usually runes are better if you go all out with one thing.