Talk:Skarner/@comment-5086858-20120613163409/@comment-94.134.195.253-20120614103548

He has no mana problems. He just cant spam his Q anymore without losing ANY mana. So hes not omfgsuperop anymore. And now that he isnt op u actually see his weakness and that is his lack of a dash. While alot of new champs have dashes and alot of people start with boots now that makes his ganking alot weaker. His clearing speed is almost the same its just the meta shift that hurts him. Trunde has the same problem and there you see it even better because he gets picked once in 30 matches maybe. (in my elo) Udyr is one of those too but hes just too strong in other points so that makes up for it.

Theyre all overall very good junglers but you cant just faceroll with them anymore (except Udyr). Also their ganks are getting weaker with all the high mobility.