Talk:Elise/@comment-70.131.123.130-20121121215836/@comment-178.166.24.118-20121122000719

The problem about AP Elise is the crap scalings aside from W and the need to be at melee range to deliver damage that's not from poke. You're near useless in teamfights after using your stun since you'll blow up as soon as you try to engage. I guess she's a decent bully in lane, but even in that role she's outclassed by champions like Cassiopeia and Orianna, who have their poke at longer range and much more team utility.

Bruiser Elise however is a complete different story. You have a 140% AS steroid and a free Wit's End passive at lvl 4 Spider form, might as well use them for something. Take Elise top lane and build defensive boots, TriForce, Wit's End, Frozen Heart, one hp item (Randuins, Sunfire, Warmogs) and one situational item (GA, Banshee's, the new Gunblade or Blade of the Ruined King should also be good options for a more offensive path while new Spirit Visage seems decent as well).