Talk:Garen the Night of Demacia/@comment-3358335-20111007173239

I don't understand the love or hate of Garen. I think he is one of the weakest champs in the game.

Oh, sure, he starts out pretty strong, a whole bunch of "spin and win" scenarios with his speed boost. But after around level 10, suddenly he might well be beating you with pillows really fast. I have seen a few Garen's build heavy damage so that they could continue to do damage late game, but there is nothing so sad as a glass cannon Garen. And the Tank/Tankey dps Garen's just don't do anything of note, other than secure a kill with his ult.

Frankly I don't understand it myself, it seems like his ratio's would allow him to carry late game, but every Garen I have faced after the 30 minute mark can simply be ignored.