Talk:Veigar/@comment-67.214.237.54-20110907053441/@comment-177.18.40.54-20110908113818

Try to get mana regen runes and masteries, and start with a Doran's ring or a Meki pendant. His passive is not weak.

The point of his passive is that you can choice to farm his Q, but you won't have enough mana to unleash a combo. So, you can choose between farming and harassing. Imagine if Veigar could harass AND farm ap at the same time (40 CS by 10 minutes = 40 ap = free blasting wand. You can do much better than that, of course).