Talk:Talon/@comment-87.17.100.90-20110826200856/@comment-70.145.127.152-20110827043603

I'd like to know how he silenced you for 3 seconds, given his cutthroat only has a 1 second silence, it seems like that'd be a useful trick. Hyperbole is anti-discussion when it comes to balance. Also, his full burst is 1,258 + 5.1 bonus ad scaling, the combo is E-Q-W-R or something like that (this assumes 6 seconds of bleed, 3 second of damage amplification in which everything except the last 3 second of bleed are amplified, and W+R hitting twice). Lee Sin has 1,140 + 5 bonus ad scaling + 10% of their missing health when you use resonating strike. This combo costs is Q-Q-E-R, and costs 150 energy (assuming no flurry attacks). I feel like talon's silence (1 second), slow (short and weak) and stealth + move speed (admittedly pretty awesome) is balanced by Lee Sin's awesome kit (W, which shields, dashes to ally, and has tons of defense and sustain; Cripple, which slows and reduces attack speed for 4 seconds; and R, which is an AoE Knock-up as well as hitting for massive damage). Plus lee can jungle, giving him a massive edge early game.

I do not say these things to suggest that Lee Sin is OP, rather to compare two melee range skill based damage dealers, and make the case that Talon is fairly balanced and not ridiculously OP.