Talk:Gragas/@comment-4843765-20150209043716/@comment-8506165-20150217183820

You can melt someone near-instantly with LeBlanc, too. But you can actually get out afterwards.

Full AP Gragas used to work because his full combo was QR for a 190% AP scaling almost-instant AOE nuke which didn't require you to go anywhere near the enemy. You could hold your E for an escape and your W lasted 20 seconds so you weren't as squishy as other full AP bursters. None of these are really true any more. But Gragas now has even more utility than he did before and building at least somewhat tanky to capitalise on that pays more dividends.

You could still do tanky Gragas pre-rework and it was actually still pretty beast, just didn't get the same attention as full AP. But now it's pretty unquestionably better, imo.