Talk:Ryze/@comment-11348530-20130628083402/@comment-11094777-20130703082643

@Thegrouch : Even if i'm not a fan of AP ryze (as you can see) I suggest seraph over muramana, not only because it gives u more survivabilty in teamfight with the shield, but also because muramana damage got changed to physical damage instead of magic damage, so that +150\250 damage (around) is heavily reduced by enemy's armor, and you are not going to build ARpen at all (obviously). Slight Ap combined with some Mpen item (abyssal - voistaff) plus the utility of the shield, put Seraph over Muraman with no doubt. But i guess it's still a matter of taste ^^