Talk:Alistar/@comment-24309189-20140823192239/@comment-6281696-20140825093754

Anything Alistar does in poke is literally free damage, it's what makes his "poke" so potent. It doesn't matter that it's on a long CD or doesn't have the most impressive values, it does enough damage to hurt (especially with sheen/crit) and your opponent can't freaking react to it at all which just makes it so stupidly safe. He plays pretty much exactly the same as renekton, "poke" that doesn't allow for a response, an ultimate that allows him to tower dive/survive alot, CC/mobility to get out of ganks/initiate ganks, lots of sustain, fairly high base values, increadible synergy with 1 offensive item allowing him to not need more.

Also, manamune isn't even needed, just triforce is sufficent thanks to its stupid values at the moment (200% base-AD is just kind of massive..).

Also, fairly certain Hydra doesn't proc onhits so it shouldn't proc triforce.