User blog comment:Andre5913/Lore-wise Champions Power Tier list/@comment-35019468-20140221075652/@comment-24090792-20140221090931

i agree about a lot of champions from tier 3 being over-estimated and need to be in lower tiers.

ashe ( normal bow, enchanted arrows but can be depleted and that strong one honestly ), irelia ( just blades ), nidalee ( normal spears, cat form to get cuddled by the likes of nocturne and chogath ), graves ( normal shotgun ), shen ( nothing supernatural about him ), lucian ( an inferior energy weapon considering his shots are not lasers ), katarina ( nothing supernatural again ), olaf ( what happens when he throws both his axes ), nunu and rengar fit tier 4 more than tier 3 since they dont have neither overwhelming firepower ( like viktor and jayce energy-based weapons or jinx rockets ) nor overwhelming magics ( veigar anti-matter powers or morganna soul leeching magics )

btw i think talon is mising and if you add him he is tier 4 since he too use normal blades, also i think both nasus and veigar should be higher on tier because nasus is a godly being somewhat and veigar uses anti-matter  which in logic doubles the energy output of the E=M*(speed of light)*(speed of light) and thats huge even if just 1 germ-sized peice of anti-matter annihelated 1 germ-sized peice of normal matter so a peice the size of his baleful or meteor should wipeout all of the fields of justice at least