Talk:Jayce/@comment-33172118-20171016095001/@comment-3391671-20171024121606

Although it is still assumptuous, the way you constructed your initial thoughts about Jayce did feel like you were drawing lines between his desing (jack of all trades) to what is necessary for him to be viable (feast or famine). The same goes to you, since Lesdin never claims that you are saying "jack-of-all-trades = good at snowballing." I find that you are just as arrogant, if not more arrogant than the man above as you do nothing to humble your thoughts. Your attitude essentially makes you a hypocrit of your own words: "being so arrogant whilst making a knobhead of yourself."

In the end, I find Jayce to be moreso an overloaded champion (not hero; regardless of reason, the act of not properly using terms of the game your refer to is much in the same way of not caring to consider the differences between unique games). Due to having a kit that is split between ranged and melee, he has a lot on his belt, which then results with feeling like a clunky kit. As Lesdin points out though, his abilities perform together just fine, which means it is not clunky in the definition of "a kit where abilities do not fit together like mismatched gears." It's just overloaded and is a handful to follow through. Surely, this is a flaw in the initial design and how it has aged with the game, but from my observation of your comment, I find it that it is your experience with the champion (pointing to your "no avid Jayce player") comment that may be detaching you from seeing if the kit is clunky or not. Lacking a signature move and/or having boring abilities does not contribute to a clunky kit; out-of-place abilities do.