Talk:Vi/@comment-26433263-20150803234855/@comment-24496127-20150819072016

Lee Sin's identity is a high mobility skirmisher/playmaker, specializing in early game. That's what the designer built him around. You can take a lot from his kit, but as long as you keep his ability to make plays with his mobility and damage, players won't complain too much unless he becomes outright unusable.

With Vi, the designer built her around her ultimate. Since that to many is the main problem in her kit, there's now a very obvious problem. Her ultimate is an entirely core part of her, more so than many other champion. Her kit was built with her ultimate being the centerpoint, so if they change it, it better be a damn good change because otherwise she'll lose what makes her Vi.

Personally, I think designing a character around an ultimate to justify the ultimate's potentially overwhelming strength or lack of counterplay is a pretty bad thing to do, and leads to balance issues or other problems(See Olaf), but it doesn't change that the ultimate is a key part of their identity, and Riot doesn't delete champions....except Karma....so they're most likely going to stay for a long time to come.

Short of a large scale rework, Vi just isn't going to get changed in the way many people wan. For pretty obvious reasons, it's unlikely for a large scale rework any time soon, so the best thing to do is just accept it's in the game, and wait for a moment where enough people get sick of it that the players who are fine with it are an extreme minority.

Or a new item could come that counters it, in which case it would be fine as is, no?