Talk:Black Cleaver/@comment-186.136.186.166-20121014125838/@comment-4840597-20121018183502

You've just said it yourself, really. Most champions cap thier base armour at around 80-90 armour. A single armour item will bring them to the point where LW performs better.

Considering the solo top (typically tanky dps), support (will build aegis, perhaps randiuns), and the tank will go over that armour value, and the ap carry and ad carry are squishy enough for the difference in armour pen to be near negligable, the LW is cheaper and offers 'better' armour pen. Especially since most people getting pen should have the +10% arp from masteries, they should have 50% arp.

Realistically, LW is a more viable choice. it is cheaper, so easier to fit into a build. It doesnt require stacking like TBC which puts a reliance on attack speed and ability to stay in a fight, which if you are getting this, you are likely an ad carry and will find sticking on one target in a teamfight to be impossible/suicidal. Also, since LW doesnt need to be stacked, it is very good for ad carries with a reliance on abilities, or physical casters.

I do like TBC though, especially with youmuus and flat arp runes. I would say a team comp with heavy armour reduction (jarvan, wukong, etc etc) will favour youmuus + BC over LW, and physical casters will favour LW due to thier lack of reliance on auto attacks (talon, khazix).

Just thought id add my opinion.