Talk:Graves/@comment-25855686-20151108040014/@comment-26203093-20151108121745

Master yi doesn't have CC, either. Nor does shyvanna. Graves jungle works simply because he can start attacking ASAP and throughout the whole lane as the enemy tries to get to safety due to being ranged and having a dash. Using the smoke grenade properly can also do ridiculous shit to the enemy even if it isn't hard cc. They dash to all in, get smoke grenaded and have to guess the direction graves is in if he uses it correctly, only to guess wrong, and suddenly be on the defensive.

Renekton is the strongest lane bully in the game. I can't think of a champion that doesn't struggle against him.

Saying his clears suck is also a gross exaggeration.