Talk:Jarvan IV/@comment-4006117-20120730073820

I lately thought about black cleaver on J4.. It sounds quite awesome on paper. When you have an opponent with 100 armor: q him -> 74 armor, Cleaver -> 24 Armor. My runes for J4 (Red and quints Armpen), together with masteries are exactly 24 armor pen. So you would be able to hit people who dont buy tons of armor for true damage. It's very situational, but against opponents like morde, gp or olaf it should work.