Talk:Orianna/@comment-4850959-20120515203842

There's not enough empirical evidence on the effectiveness on Orianna at her peak when compared to other ap casters also at their peak which have been tried and proven, but people interested in finding out should check out the TSM EU invitational where CLG EU used her with a team comp that let her set up near perfect ults leona, irelia, nocturne as shield+ult targets or helping them out to dps and securing the kill with a spamable q.

analysis: She never had enough burst to kill the opposing mid laner but she won it by being ahead of cs (read: 20-30) at the end of laning phase. Nocturne probably did most of the damage early post-laning in teamfights but she kept securing the last hit on the kills and ended up helping alot with well timed ults, slows, zoning and even if the damage wasn't impressive until later (it was okay). Froggen ended up getting fed so much that he bought a rylais outright because he had so much gold and maybe didn't want to give up his 8 kill spree (he already had a deathcap, sorc boots, rod of ages and void staff and after getting the rylais he purchased a guardian angel)

other notable games in the past would be appreciated, I only know of one other where Epik Gamer's ( and now TSM's second team?) Salce played with her in the curse invitational. If anyone else knows of tournament games or high level scrims that have been played that would be good to watch and learn from it would be nice.

PS. your pubstomp matches against a high elo player in solo queue don't count just because you won/lost your match against dyrus who was jungle miss fortune (this actually happened) or someone else does not make it good material for analysis. The amount of theorycrafting based on statistics of a champion can't give any real qualitative analysis - I see some people on this wiki go "SHE'S SO GOOD LOOK AT HER RATIOS" and the opposite is also true, which only proves how stupid some people are.

Team game look at how she does as a team comp, rather than how easy it is to gain elo.