Talk:Fizz/@comment-76.2.109.131-20120729064203/@comment-5151680-20120729194407

A really good veigar will put his stun around himself, stunning fizz, even if fizz uses his E, and viegar's burst will eat the hell out of fizz.

The thing about veigar, is the same thing about ryze. His stun is instant, and because he has huge burst, he can wreck fizz.

Also, zilean is a pretty hard counter to fizz. If zilean places his bomb on you, your E will not dodge the damage. Also, zilean's ult and slow hard counters any diving that fizz might want to do.