User blog comment:TheTobarMethod/Jungle Ahri Helpss/@comment-75.73.211.186-20130319010815

going AP junglers, generally, you dont take red during your first clear. I would go to red at the start of the 2nd clear. AP junglers are just kind of hard, most of them lack sustain and the damage type needed for jungle. you can do it with a hard leash, but the jungle path is pretty hard in the beginning. so just keep it for as long as you can go, if you cant take a 2nd buff then dont take it.