Talk:Trundle/Strategy/@comment-71.227.132.240-20120405034839

builds are situational at best but being an effective jungler means you have to beat the other jungler in terms of CS and leveling and/or controlling the lanes pushing and ganking/counter ganking from the other jungle.... ALL while getting the dragons or setting your team up for dragon kills. being at the right tower to push is a big deal. this video is very old indeed.

marks=9 armor pen (just enough for jungle creeps and early ganks)

quints=2movespeed(you cant gank well without, even tho you are faster with contaminate, you cant lend multiple hits AND chase + chase VS ghost/flash) 1 lifesteal 2%

seal=8 flat crit chance

glyphs=8 flat crit chance, 1 your coice( this puts yoru crit at 6% which helps when you build a zeal after wriggles, for the movespeed and attackspeed so you can give your blue to your AP mid like a boss and save Q spams in return for sustained DPS)

you will notice in many games a few crits makes you a bit faster than the other junglers and on a gank can make alot of a difference. can make farming every successfull and jungle battles vs other beefy junglers possible. frozen mallet only works if your running trundle as a tank and tanks runes. if your tanking and the other jungler knows this he will pick on you early game and shut your jungle down. so be agressive, work with your team and counter jungle them while your early game is OP. this also can allow 7min mark dragon solo or sooner depending on if you can get lane exp as well for lv 6 early and a wriggles.

tip #1 armor+3HP pot start, 1 complete route and wraiths = 700$ to go back for razor. lv4 double buff@ 4min

tip #2 usually gank a lane and send someone back if you cant kill, even at the cost of all your summoner skills. this allows a safe dragon. work with bottom lane to kill dragon faster if possible.

tip #3 if your team can lane without constantly QQin for you, get an early oracle potion and scout the wards. you should find at least 1 from the enemy jungler and 1-2 from bot lane alone. this 2-3 times can cut the cost for it down drastically. also this can allow your ap BURST mid to gank effectivly, as they are always are more effective than a melee gank.

tip #4 armor pen is never enough VS people with 100+ armor. try not to focuz them and if the enemy team is stacked with armor on 3+ buy an early last whisper/black cleaver depending on the expected amount of armor buys. 80-120 black cleaver, 120+ last whisper. get it early so you dont feel weak mid game. possible wriggles, zeal/sheen, last whisper in tought matchups.