Talk:Shaco/@comment-24971427-20190420151007/@comment-36072697-20190505132519

First of all, rip, that also happened to me after writing a really long post.

Second, prepare yourself for some really long calculations.

Shaco ad at 18: 125.5

Build: Drakhtar, Youmuus, Trinity force, Ravenous hydra, Infinity edge, Berserker's greaves.

Runes (that add ad): Eyeball collection: 18 ad, absolute focus: 18 ad, gathering storm at 30 minutes: 48 ad, 1 adaptative force rune: 9 ad

Total bonus ad: 70+55+55+80+40+18+18+48+9=393 bonus ad

Total ad: 518.5

Q damage: (40% of 393)+ 50= 207.2

25% chance crit with infinity edge: 466.2

100% chance crit with backstab and infinity edge passive: 321.16

100% chance crit with backstab and no infinity edge passive: 269.36

Bonus damage with full cirt and ie passive: 259

Bonus damage with backstab crit and with ie passive: 113.96

Bonus damage with backstab crit and without ie passive: 62.16

total 1 auto attack damage with full crit and passive: 1166.25(crit auto attack)+251(trinity)+150(drakhtar)+466.2(q damage)=2033.45

total 1 auto attack damage with backstab crit and ie passive:  1525.91

Total 1 auto attack damage with backstab crit and no ie passive: 1344.41

Yeah so basically, late game it's around 259 bonus damage if you get a good crit, 113.96 bonus damage if you get a normal backstab crit, and 62.16 bonus damage if you get a normal backstab crit and haven't built infinity edge, but instead another item that gives simmilar amounts of ad.

When i said crit build, i was talking about just adding an IE after finishing duskblade youmuus trinity. not just straight up going full crit.

tl;dr: you gave him at least 62.16 bonus damage(without crit build), and potentially 259 bonus damage(with just ie). Shaco is definitely not weak enough to need that much of a buff.

Keep in mind this is also the late game, and i don't really want to calculate for mid game, but it should be around 50 or 40 bonus damage, which is still really good.