Talk:Riven/@comment-33536623-20140127122040/@comment-9705522-20140131234205

Short comment, yes, theorycrafting is always more meaningful than anecdotal evidence is. thing is, one is cold hard numbers. of course, these numbers dont factor in everything, there are some things we cant tell just like that (such as outplay potential, but last time i checked garen has none), but anecdotal evidence is a lot less precise. this is because its per definition subjective. if you were to ask if khas burst is high or low, for example, people will say high, even though its the lowest. if you ask if lee sin falls of late, most people will say yes, even if he actually doesnt. if you were to ask ... ah forget it, you get the idea. people make mistakes. people perceive things differently than they actually are. as for garen vs riven, really, its not a counter. she can wait out the silence, outdamages him, her shield is better, and, most important thing, she actually scales a LOT better. post laning phase garen is kind of .... eh. as far as tanks go, he is a weaker one. shyvana can dive onto you, deals more damage with her w than garens e (and she can still attack during it), has a lot of damage in her kit and a lot of utility. only thing that makes garen somewhat threatening is his execute, which, if you are around 40% hp, is probably going to kill every nontank. problem is its really short and interruptable.