Talk:Riven/@comment-25553136-20141025122709/@comment-23835547-20141031214653

That is what I said at the end of my first post. Brutlizer is better on Riven even if they come back with a chain vest. Brutalizer is super cost effecient (its broken in cost, suprised it hasn't been nerfed like spirit visage).

Yet you are changing the argument which was that stacking armor pen is worse vs stacking armor. Your overlooking that I was talking purly about flat armor pen. Its cheaper to buy 40 flat armor vs 10 flat armor pen and its eaiser to get 40 AD then 40 flat armor pen. Yes flat armor pen is super cost effecient but you can only get so much, and as they get more armor the value of precent penetration is far more cost effiecent then flat pen.

Health+Health(armor/100)=effective health

4000 hp 100 armor = 8000 effective hp                  4000hp 90 armor = 7600                                   Both have the same amount of effective hp but

2500hp 220 armor = 8000 effective hp                   2500 hp 210 armor = 7750                                after you subtract 10 armor from each the second

value still has more effective health then the first. Yes its only 150 hp but it stil has more value.