Talk:Shen/@comment-204.108.96.97-20130222152936/@comment-4659726-20130224051734

If by strong jungle speed you mean the slowest jungle speed in the game right lol :P.

Just saying.

As for that build, I wouldn't touch Nashor's with a two foot pole on shen. Energy+CDR works ok ish since your skills are up sooner, but it also means that you may not have energy when it is up sooner anyways. Energy gates how much you can do late game in exchange for being able to do a bit more early. Unlike mana which is gated early and ignorable late or manaless/hp use being based on hurting self/relying on cooldowns(CDR being hard to itemize for manaless champs).

If you had to jungle I would say start is wolves -> smiteless blue -> Red -> gank just to keep up in terms of ganking with the enemy jungler. Leave your razor as a razor and go buy boots, recurve, sunfire, and then from there work on what you need.

Builds are situational but here is an example or two. No particular build order.

Merc's, Warmog's, Sunfire, Wit's, Randuin's, Locket.

Tabi, Zephyr, Warmog's, Sunfire, Randuin's, Bulwark

Interesting items to mention, Abyssal, Twin Shadows(teleport in, twin shadow's -> taunt)., and Trinity force, since you don't waste that much stats using it besides mana. (oh and your ki strike burst is going to hurt a lot).