Talk:Timeline/@comment-43526955-20190817051451

Some of this is wrong.

The Black Rose was no created prior to Sahn-Uzal's conquest, or even Mordekaiser's, it came during Morde's conquest, let alone before his mortal past.

Go to Vladimir's Biography, and it makes this clear:

"At the height of  Mordekaiser's dark reign, it was said that a mythic and bloodthirsty fiend haunted the coastal cliffs of eastern Valoran, demanding young lives and savage worship from the local tribes. Few were welcome in his lair, until the day a  pale sorceress approached this barbarian god with an offer. The two feasted together as equals, weaving magic so dark that the wine at their table soured, and the roses withered, vibrant red turning to black."

So, Morde is at the heigh of his conquest, and LeBlanc reaches out to Vladimir in Eastern Valoran, striking him with an offer.. where a vibrant rose turns black. Ergo, The Black Rose was formed, and she becomes the matron. This is DURING Morde's conquest. It already started. It didn't take place before it, and it certainly didn't take place before his mortal conquests as Sahn-Uzal. Either Riot is having continuity issues in their writing, or you're just wrong. After reading LeBlanc's, Morde's, and Vladimir's stories, I think it is abundantly clear that the Black Rose isn't created until after Sahn-Uzal is resurrected as Mordekaiser, where he already started his conquest.