Talk:Vayne/@comment-5019437-20120530122759/@comment-4743916-20120607051148

Well, I've been playing Vayne as my primary AD carry bot in my 1500s elo. If you're saying that you have more newly founded knowledge of teamfight roles and positioning over my Vayne I'd be more than gladly to accept it if it was valid. The issue I have with your argument is that you assume that enemy teams aren't aware of her blatant all-in weakness that no other AD carries really have.

The hypercarries that I mentioned under my definition have the ability to not only deal ridiculous sustained DPS but also bring in teamfight utility that snowballs hard lategame. Vayne only fulfills sustained DPS and that DPS isn't much more than those other carries.That chart only formulates on complete builds with equal farm without considering buffs or enemy debuffs. In a real scenerio, Vayne doesn't get as many opprotunities to even deal damage with that range of hers and when factoring in the different debuff interactions and her more extreme randuins weakness, the damage barely outrivals other carries.