Talk:Graves/@comment-178.26.87.91-20111025041515/@comment-4165869-20111026001053

I don't think volley is a good comparisons because, well yeah, it's been changed. Also they work completely differently; volley arrows disperse once they hit a target while buckshot rounds keep going. Only cone skill shot's I can think that work like that off the top of my head are Heart Seeker Strike (not really the same, given channel time and shorter range) and well, Wild Cards. But Wild cards has considerably longer range and no point blank effect. (Also fun side note, Wild Cards has a lower cooldown and higher base damage, but lower scaling.)

Since people love to compare champion skills, I'd rather compare those that actually function similarly, rather than taking two that have completely different uses and trying to argue which is better. Now granted, my last comparison of Piltover Peacemaker might have not been the best, but I was trying to think of an AD aoe skill shot that would pass through minions and still deal damage. So it was either that or HSS, but Graves and Pantheon aren't even similar in design, so that would be just plain dumb.