Talk:Vladimir/@comment-220.137.83.139-20130319101838/@comment-4659726-20130320032001

CDR on stuff does not always beat out whatever else you can buy. You can get by perfectly fine with anywhere from 1% cdr to 10%.

Sorc shoes are often the superior choice with the way pen works now, and how people don't buy as much mr as they used to. Spirit visage isn't that great since you don't get any real offensive power and the CDR/mr is "ok". It isn't really worth a slot.

Abyssal may be worth a slot depending on the enemy team, but it has to be in response to heavy magic damage on the enemy team+you have somebody else on the team to benefit from it.