Talk:Soraka/@comment-29184214-20160901163853/@comment-28977071-20160906091717

This build is well-known, but I agree with first half of XXFeatherPawXx's objections. Basically it's late game build for and that's a  of full carry. You even went directly after by skipping boots. That's a nonsense imo, you have only single other item at that moment. is usually built at earliest as 3rd-4th item, because it scales with already present. Sure it gives by itself, but at sheer cost of providing nothing else, other items have some true uniques. For that huge price you'd get just by buying dumb s if you had that much space. If you really opt to skip boots, buying other last item'd prove both more efficient and effective.

On the other hand I find some of XXFeatherPawXx's arguments weaker and/or exaggerated. Objection about is a bit inflated imo, its price is just  higher than that of. I like that item on poke supports (personal style, but possibly a mistake) as in a certain way alte game scaling tends to reflect their behavior. Aggressive supports want to shift into carry class late-game once people hit full builds, with their low utility they have less team synergy and dmg is bread and butter of their contribution. is mostly just sustain item early and damn expensive just by that, true. It's also quite selfish and as such not very suitable on unnatural supports that cannot transform its sustains and into utility.

XXFeatherPawXx clearly didn't notice that you build from  in your build, so you actually get a lot of it to protect you against usual poke. Same goes with utility, except for that ugly, I see it indirectly on every other item- e.g. CDR indirectly translates into more utility on innate utility champs. Even considering only 'direct team utility', which is for sure what XXFeatherPawXx actually had on mind, there is one more item,, so definitely an exaggeration.

Regarding XXFeatherPawXx's refusal of and building  on, I've have experienced this build few times, but didn't check his calculations. Let's say they are correct, my in-game impression from the build were still overall positive. works on Soraka very well (I even tried dumb regen seals on her with success, it incredibly increases her early game potential) and building and  costs on her is only disadvantageous without.

The build works, however it is situational. You lose early game potential by trying to rush it, but it's a viable counterstrategy against being focused in teamfights. That said, I'd maybe opt for more defensive 6th item.