Talk:Wukong/@comment-4296199-20130426042234/@comment-4659858-20130427011229

You compare Wukong's early game to Renekton's, Lee Sin's, Rengar's and Darius' ... Those 4 have amongst the BEST early game in the top lane. Now wonder he's going to feel a little weak pre-6 against them... Malphite is an armor stacker that resists small bursts at regular intervals,that counters completely Wukong's gameplay in lane, so he's also at a disadvantage here. A champ that's not weak against his counterpicks is OP.

If you put him against an Akali, a Fiora, a Jax, even Olaf or Pantheon or pretty much anything else in the top lane and he'll either hold his own or win. Even Teemo doesn't counterpick Wukong in lane. I agree that Wukong is a fragile champion, but fragile=/=weak, because if you don't get hit, even if you have 50 HP, you don't die. Leblanc is very very very fragile at level 6, but she's nowhere near weak, even if you can kill her in 5 AA; same thing for Kassadin, he hasn't got much HP at level 6, but he's trong because he has enough mobility/utility to avoid damage directed at him.

I'm talking about the clone for early clears: many junglers have a problem with clear time because they end up too low-life to gank properly at level 3 if they pick their "ganking spell" (wu's W) instead of their "clearing spell" (E). His clone act like shaco's boxes and tank minion damage, allowing wukong to remain high health enough to gank just after lvl 3.

Wukong's clear time is on-par with most junglers, he isn't vulnerable to counterjungling and his ganks deal damage. His strengh lies in his ability to deal a very important burst damage unannounced. You don't need CC because you kill the opponent before they can run or flash. At level 3 you put most mid laners half-life with your EQ combo, combined with the laner's damage+ignite and it's an almost sure kill. You can also re-establish HP balance in lane easily because your opponent cannot dodge your damage since you have both stealth and a gapcloser.