Talk:Udyr/@comment-4677525-20130624224937

As a former Tiger Stance Udyr nut, I have to say that new Wit's End + the jungle changes make Phoenix Udyr so ridiculous. His clear times are insane and the upfront burst he can put out with the Phoenix changes make him an ungodly counterjungler.

I love running "full-burn" Udyr with Spirit of the Elder Lizard, Sunfire Cape with Wit's End and Phoenix Style. I know Lizard Elder isn't really optimal for him, I just like it thematically :P