Talk:Veigar/@comment-78.2.4.130-20120822230121

Veigar is amazing and best AP carry for me by far.People usually say he has bad early game but his bad early ends when he hits 6,his ulti and dark matter - event horizon combo are devastateing for AP mids and i win almost every mid matchup,play passive until 6 and then they die when i land my stun and i have perfected that.Of course there are things and champions that counter him but fact is if you have a good support and tank that protect you and you are skilled at landing your stun you will dominate most games.By mid game my DFG,ulti,dark matter,baleful strike,ignite combo means death even for tanks and there is no ap carry in this game except veigar that can burst tanks.........few months ago people were saying for Anivia that she is not viable until froggen started to play her.Anivia,veigar and cassio (she was also considered weak pick in the past until pros started to pwn with her) were my mains for a very long time and i hated to be called troll when playing them in ranked,now people only flame me for playing veigar but by the end of the game they usually shut up.