Talk:Vayne/@comment-11094777-20130727190024/@comment-14347199-20130803131300

Vayne isn't as difficult in lane as she used to be, but there are still quite a few ADCs which are much safer than her.

Such as Caitlyn the siege machine, Ashe the "You can't touch this kite", Ezreal the double flasher, MF the long-ranged poker...

I'd argue that even Trist is safer, even considering her mid-game (enemy displacement ult, long-ranged self repositioning W).

Vayne's main failing is her short range in teamfights, but yes, as others have mentioned, she does so much damage that if your teammates cover you, you can avoid being killed. See: Doublelift kiting at LCS.

And yes, her ult feels underwhelming from a personal standpoint, but watch some pro Vayne players and you'll see how devastating it can be in teamfights and in duels.