Talk:Vladimir/@comment-5779359-20130816085245/@comment-5779359-20130816143707

well it is in my mind as alot of Vlad's still get 3 pots instead of the ward which just gives MS, Ring gives 24HP plus another 60 which gives 1.5 extra AP which will be 2 if you at least got the 30+ HP mastery. I start the game with over 660 HP and 35 AP with some defense.