Talk:Graves/@comment-26459891-20151210224021/@comment-26001789-20151212160305

He isn't good.

Lacks hard crowd control(Quinn and Kindred have targeted CC), no real way to recover(Quinn can splitpush and Kindred can be a Neutral Objective Burner + Ultimate Utility), no real scaling in the Jungle and lacks any sort of Utility.

He is better Jungling in 3v3.