Talk:Zyra/@comment-4499945-20120925030020/@comment-3486816-20121017085813

^Jax was OP until people learned to play Malphite against him. Now that he has a well-established counter that people have become well-versed in, he's not nearly as bad. The same will likely happen to Rengar, and hopefully to Jayce as well; though I have trouble seeing a hard counter for a champ that can be both extremely safe AND extremely aggressive and switch liberally between the two.