Talk:Vi/@comment-5077844-20141105122648/@comment-15280970-20141121025258

Then the rediscovery of a lot of junglers (fiddle, rammus, warwick, jarvan, wukong) that are just extremelly effective. The free time they give with their CC to AD's so they can deal good crits is very useful.

Before those, the jungle was all about Lee sin, Evelyyn, kha, elise, etc and tankyness plus threat was something very useful against those squishies.

My theory is, before the item changes there were 2 kinds of ADCs: ADs that did nothing in teamfights and could flee from her if they didn't die.(tristana, cait). And ad's that were significant and lacked an escape(kog, jinx, varus and especially vayne).

Now that every AD is significant again, team is more aware of protecting them, and VI's cooldown gated after her combo. Divers often get killed if the AD doesn't Die.

And janna being extremely effective against this kind of champ, i don't know.