Talk:Urgot/@comment-5526385-20130507124638/@comment-4167645-20130517053210

The Nidalee wasn't a comparison, more of a metaphor. If Riot theoretically took what was fun about a character, and made it ineffectual. They still believe that Urgot is performing above average, and that if they reverted any nerf in any way he would instantly become OP.

And no I do not feel he does a lot of damage shockingly enough. He does 200+(0.85bonus AD) over 2 seconds, equal to 100(+0.43AD) per second IF you hound an enemy after landing a bomb. If they go out of range, all the your potential damage is gone.

Theres a lot of mini-factors that contribute to Urgot not fuctioning well in my eyes.

Q: Its got 100 less range than Ezreal, and although this sounds good they made the projectile travel speed much much slower. An Ezreal could throw his Q and hit a fleeing enemy at long range because it sped up so fast it can catch them before they get out of range. Thats not going to happen with Urgot's. Additionally, using Q has a cast time, meaning it interrupts Urgot's movement/attack. On a button you're supposed to be spamming, they add up. Also, mana cost is high early game.

W: Nothing much here. Would be better though if the slow lasted 2 seconds and had an AD scaling instead of AP which no Urgot should ever get.

E: Its got a slow travel speed, so again you can't throw it at max range and expect it to hit. Thats on the topic of on paper range vs effective range which would expand this post too much. And since they made Q ineffectual at long range without the bomb, all your damage is done within the bomb window. If the enemy backs out for the duration of the bomb, he can come back fully expecting to take no damage at all for the next 10-6 seconds while the bomb is on cooldown. I've even been maxing out E first to alleviate this problem.

R: That lvl 6 range. Might as well call it Darius' apprehend.

And finally, I am mad at Riot, their stance on Urgot is just frustrating. Its like they don't know what they want Urgot to be, as long as he isn't what he is.