Talk:Lulu/@comment-4888212-20131128180132/@comment-5605969-20131210210244

Your arguements are very one sided tbh.

First you explain you saw champions carrying games. Those champs were probably very fed, which led to any reaction made by your team nearly useless. So even with ANY other champ, say, Vayne, if she wasn't fed enough herself, carrying would be impossible.

Next you say specific cases. Note the Tryndamere one. Where does it say he 1 vs 5 the enemy team. Nowhere. He split pushed. He DID HIS THING. While split-pushing, the enemy team could have 4 vs 5 and taken out your nexus before Trynda could. Did you think about that?

But let's go for the one prime example i wanna use. They have a fed champ that can deal tons of damage. You have a Lulu. During the time you weren't present in the small skirmishes, that champ got fed, and was unstoppable. Now reaches a teamfight situation. CC here, CC there, comes the fed champ, and you polimorph him, ignoring him for 2.5 seconds and letting your team win. Did you not just enabled them to win? Did you not just carry them to victory? No? Then what if there were 10 TF after that one, and all of them you would CC the fed enemy to oblivion, making him useless.

Carrying a game isn't dealing the most damage. It's making the best plays most of the times during a game. Sure, damage is awesome, but there is a reason why you dont see teams not taking pure tanks or supports. Assassins can kill people if they are fed, or if the enemy can't react. But tanks and supports can make said enemy almost useless.

Oh, and to counter your "flawless arguement": "Ok, it may be stunned for 1,5 seconds, but do you know what will happen to your ADC focusing Shen after the stun wears off?" Depends. maybe shen will taunt your tank and everyone will focus him. And similar arguement. Vayne (you) goes in a fight with her team, she's in the back line, fed as a turkey, and could 1 vs 5 the enemy team in terms of damage. Their tank and APC jump on you, and your team focus their tank. Can you, as a Vayne, ignore the tank's cc and the APC's damage alone? Thought so.