Talk:Kayle/@comment-80.239.242.30-20130128210225/@comment-5077305-20130131162537

Ok so against fiddle: Max E and W over Q so that I basically out-sustain him in dps and pushing power. Bait out the drain and go in on him after it is on CD. Next time I go against a fiddel I will try that out.

About fizz: Fizz is deceptive with kayle. Yes at lvl 1 fizz is at a serious disadvantage but as soon as he hits 2 and gets his troll pole and his Q kayle can't kite him anymore. As long as Fizz open with a really heavy sustain items (flask, 2 hp pots and a mana pot) he won't run out of mana and can use his pole and gap closers to get in and punish kayle freely. At that point kayle needs to resort to "poking" by using Q to harass and disengage for free damage. If Fizz maxes his troll poll first (really counterintuitive but this is actually what you need to do with fizz) then kayle won't be able to simply push him into the tower as he will have the ability to push back. The matchup is not a hard counter by any means but having played both champions I would not simply give the edge to kayle.