Talk:Ziggs/@comment-44521797-20191206011121/@comment-25950012-20191215115259

I land his ult alot of the time. Usually on bot lanes. The thiing about Zigg's ult that you gotta understand, is that yes they get a warning, and usually your laner is ready to dodge. But theirs a duo bot lane, twice the odds itll hit. And late game you'll be getting 4-5 in 1 blast. I use mine pre battle alot. Its not an exicute after all. It deals massive damage so should be used when they have enough hp that it doesn't over kill them.

Enemy bot lane over exstend then ult where they should be not where they are put the edge of your ult to push them into your botlanes tower. itll hit atleast 1 because theiir natural though is they are about to be ganked and they'll try to back. The warning will be also seen by your bot lane, and generally it tells them to engage. I've turned around so many losing bot lanes using this ult its not even funny.

That being said Ziggs is an old and bad champion. Like most old champions he's slow, slow in his movement and combos when compared to todays champions coming out. Granted hes a safe mid pick. Since people generally like to stand close to thier minions. You can usually poke people out of lane with his easy to land Q and W. Just rarely throw the Q on the enemy but instead at the nearestt minion to them, let the aoe hit the enemy champion and push the wave at the same time. If you run mana flow with biscuts you'll rarely run out of mana and can spam for ever.