Talk:Kayle/@comment-1034201-20140318085219/@comment-1034201-20140324011528

Hey, thanks for the tips. Last time I fought Pantheon, I guess I got over-confident and was successfully ganked twice by WW (before lvl. 6 as well T_T). Before that, I was doing fairly well against him, so the biggest problem was definitely lack of warding (which meant I got paranoid in the game against Mundo and warded like crazy :P - Poppy wasn't touching me which meant her ability to keep up kinda diminished). Anyway, back to bruisers-with-gap-closers, I'll try and go with the Q approach. If I do so, I might favour either boots or crystalline flask as a starting item.

I've mained Kayle since S1, but most top bruisers are still a pain for me. Kinda missed the times when Nashor gave mana regen, but I definitely prefer the extra on-hit damage nowadays. Mind you, during all those times, I think I only levelled Q first during her hybrid stage (before her rework, I just build boots, guinsoo's, nashor and 3 gunblades... epic times - only thing that could have beaten you would be Jax with exactly the same build minus the nashor while holding a 4th gunblade). During her S2, I went ADC top/mid with her, so E was usually a priority. S3, still went with ADC/mid, but once they removed the Q amplification, that as when I was more or less forced to go with the mainstream AS/AP. Hell, I still occassionally go ADC on her, but only with premades.

I'm just throwing that up there to justify why I don't level Q first - I'm completely used to having a 25% slow to deal with most bruisers. Having it buffed to 35% was just epic. Having it later re-worked (lost the amplification in return T_T) to give scaling slow was just outright OP for me. Plus, I felt Q's base damage was pretty average - it's main draw came from it's former 1.0AP scaling, so my idea of not levelling it first was due to me not needing the base damage and utiliy over what E offered (lane control and a less mana-dependent form of harass).