Talk:Garen/@comment-188.230.249.170-20130213095838

So many people cry about Garen... People still need to learn... I mean...if he is easy to play...he is easy to outwit....try other champs who actualy counter him... he is not usefull in team fights except being tanky... i still dont know why people focus him in team fights....i wont a lot of lanes with garen and yet still lost becuase of being kited and no strong CCs for teamfights...Garen does not need  a nerf...instead a buff... to regain his strong early game for his lane

why?

because there are still tons of champs who counter him and he needs to be usefull...you want to nerf him! while he can be only played solo top...one lane, one role...and you WANT to take him the only thing he has away!

Elise- Top, Mid, Jungle

Riven- Top, Jungle

Olaf- Top, Jungle

Nidalee- Top, Mid, Support

Irelia- Top, Jungle (ive seen it...and it was really good because of Q and E stun)

Jarvan- Top, Jungle

Jayce- Top, ADC (new meta crap), Some jungle him(not really good)

So there are a lot of other champs who accutaly can counter garen in lane. You need to play smart or you can try to at least survive and have a decent farm (wait for mid game to start the team fights).

So stfu about nerfing him...stealing his only thing he has.... Being tanky with damage. He cant go mid, jungle, support or adc. He can only be top.

He has no gap close, no strong CC and his ulty is not really teamfight designed.

If i choose a tank id rather go malphite, his ulty is good for team fight, damage abosrb shield, E for slowing ADC and other AA champs. I belive there are better tanks than garen.

Try elise or Jayce... or any other champs... stop crying.... ive seen eveylin who dealt 1.2k magic damage to me (garen) with hate spike within 1.2 sec...and then again ...she was nerfed and they say its okay....but she is STILL strong...lets see 1200 magic damage with hate spike without rabadon?!... I had 141 MR....now honestly...when garen deals 400 damage with fully 3 seconds E judgement ability ...you cry about that?...then you are bronze divison... i ve watched a lot of gold elo games and i have almost never seen any garen... in higher elo garen is not played at all...nor is he seen in tournaments...

So guys...now STFU and instead of nerfing him....AGAIN...I expect him to get at least a decent buff... for i want to see him in tournament or higher ranked games....