Talk:Riven/@comment-4530717-20131004175203/@comment-8267817-20131015142247

Oh believe me, I know how much Tiger stance hurts, and I abuse the crap out of it when I play Udyr, but still, all of your arguments are based on perfect execution, say you time one ability wrong, you just lost mana and she just walks away and keeps baiting out your skills until you oom, then she destroys you like she does to everyone else, Udyr late game is a monster, and eats Riven for brekfast, but the issue is reaching late game against her, with most champions in the game it is near impossible as long as the Riven isn't terrible.

Something I just thought of is Heimerdinger...... punish her for CS'ing with rockets, if she tries to engage throw a grenade down her throat and laugh as turrets tear her to pieces..... I must try this.