Talk:Kog'Maw/@comment-3093118-20110516072836/@comment-71.227.11.17-20110517144341

IMO, there's no better Ranged Carry choice than Kog'maw. Which other ranged carries can be built DPS, Hybrid, or full AP and still rape people's face off? I feel the title of "best ranged carry" may be semantics, but Kog'maw definitely wins "most versatile ranged carry" hands down.

As someone who's mained BOTH AP and AD kog'maw, I can honestly say that you're over-analyzing, lol. Unfortunately, while AP Kog is DEFINITELY better than AD Kog, Hybrid is actually the best Kog.

While you're correct, AP Kog rapes people's faces off from artillery range, his performance actually peaks in the early end game (around 35-40 mins). In long games, this means that you'll be winning... winning... winning... winning... (then 40 minutes in), oops you lost one teamfight outta nowhere and get aced and they rush your base and kill your nexus. At higher level ELOs, this starts happening ALOT. People will simply just defend against you until they get their equipment done.

The AP build i rolled with was: Sorcerer's Boots, Lich Bane, Archangels, Archangels, Deathcap, and either Rylai's (for CC), GA (for survivability, if needed), or Void staff (if playing against tanks). This build will give you about 700+ AP, which Lich bane so handily converts to AD on command (I once BDed/ 4 shotted a nexus with this build).

I recently started looking a Hybrid Kog when some friends told me that my endgame potential was lacking (they also mentioned my endgame survivability as lackluster). I would sit back and ult, like the OP said, but then my team would all die and I would be left to defend alone (an AP Kog's WORST nightmare) because that means I would have to fight closer range and wherever the other team choose to push.

I've been messing around with Hybrid Kog, before I list what I've been looking at, let me say that this build isn't nearly finished. Mostly, I focus on getting Madred's Bloodrazor, then as much MP and AS as I can. Typically, I've gone: Sorcerer's Boots, Madred's Bloodrazor, Malady, Rageblade, Gunblade, and GA (cause I'm getting in close). However, last night I played a game with four melee DPS champs, so the enemy stacked ZERO MR. Then I went: Sorcerer's boots, Madred's Bloodrazor, Malady, Phantom Dancer, Phantom Dancer, and GA.

The point of the Hybrid build is to give you enough AP that your abilities don't make the enemy go "lol, that tickles Kog", but your main focus is the % of Health in Magic Damage to get past their MR and ASAP. AP Kog RAPES squishies, but have you ever been able to drop a pure tank Shen, alone and with both at full health, in under 5 seconds?

IMO, Madreds based Hybrid Kog is the way to do it. You serve as literally the BEST tank/ off-tank DPS killer in the ENTIRE Meta-game. Thoughts? Suggestions for Hybrid?