Talk:Twisted Fate/@comment-79.167.181.253-20111207153849/@comment-77.8.120.204-20111211173256

^graves has a tankyness passive, a short cooldown dash and a smokescreen thingy to keep him out of focus. also he used to have 550 range and 50 range is nothing to laugh about. Sivir (while she still had the 500 range pre remake) used to be built tanky dps with atmogs for exact the same reason: 500 range is to low to not get killed by spells etc before you can do anything when going full ad carry build. Also other 550 viable range champs have spellshield (sivir) flash-abilities (ez, corki)to keep them safe, and some ad scaling poke to compensate.