Talk:Udyr/@comment-69.124.107.30-20120218201759/@comment-46.13.244.124-20120226224228

Barely any dmg with R? His E+red means he can really stick to you and with some AS (passive+runes are enought for a start) R will proc a lot and do a lot dmg. I never had a problem with dmg on Phoenix it acually does about same dmg as Q but is´t more sustained (and it´s sort of AOE). He is also good scarecrow "burn flas or you are head... ok you burned flash i´ll be back in a minute". Phoenix has also godlike clear speed witch gives you more opportunites to gank/counter jungle and still be farmed and if you are ganking top/mid and your teamate has some sort of hard CC, with right timing- worst possible scenario is burned flash and recall- and that is suceflull gank, you don´t have to really kill them but making them recall will give your laner some time to free farm and deny XP+gold to enemy do it few times and it will create noticeble difference. He is not best ganker around but he is still pretty damn dangerous.