Talk:Veigar/@comment-178.59.175.224-20120327103847/@comment-4997671-20120413002158

As veigar, if you use dark matter first on an enemy, they will likely run away, in which case you can put an edge of the wall behind them, so they are stunned long enough to get hit by the brunt of dark matter even with tenacity...

But despite this, tenacity is still a counter to veigar, makes landing dark matter much more difficult (and sometimes impratical)