Talk:Ziggs/@comment-3450702-20120207220819/@comment-3165723-20120214210148

some champions may be "better suited" but in my experience no ap carry counters another ap carry directly. unless they're specifically built to counter ap carries. i.e. morgana (stupid easy to lane against if you know how to dodge Q), kassadin (play defensively and try to out farm him) and LB (just run for your life until lategame). other than those three if you're having trouble against an ap carry mid just play better. and i don't mean that in a condescending way.