Talk:Garen/@comment-24.130.19.100-20120719013928/@comment-94.134.192.214-20120720231727

Maybe i was a bit rude but okay let me explain it a bit more detailed:

First of all no one freakin cares that he has 61 at level 1. While it is definetely not bad its not gamebreaking. Flat AD/arpen is MUST. Both are equally good one only being superior in certain circumstances.

You will be top (unless youre low level thats why i said that, wasnt meant as an insult). Top is all about farm, sustain, trading and farm and alot of farm. Now if you start with a Dorans Blade not only will be your mobility inferior to Boots + Pots your sustain will be horrible too. And dont tell me his passive is sustain cause its so easily countered. And his Q isnt mobility enough and scales even with flat movement speed (Boots). And your surprise butseks wont work against a bit more experienced players too. (low level comment again)

Rushing Last Whisper is still stupid unless it is really needed. I clearly said that Brutalizer (and Yomuus after that ofc) is a good item to get. But since you get Brutalizer and Runes/Masteries for your arpen you dont need a LW on top of that. And arpen runes + Brutalizer is not a waste because Brutalizer will never nullify all of the enemies armor.

My "balanced" build would be: Boots + 3 Pots, 1-2 Dorans/HoG, Brutalizer, Frozen Mallet, Atmas, IE, Randuins/FoN/GA. The Dorans when youre doing fine the HoG when you have trouble farming. Mallet for the CC and the synergy with Atmas. IE for the damage and them crits together with Atmas and later Yomuus. Defensive item of choice.

Thats how i see it. You might have a different opinion but i just think youre wrong. Doesnt mean that i wanna insult you or anything like that.