Talk:Graves/@comment-168.184.220.3-20120523133543/@comment-4990650-20120525113144

Ashe better than Graves at utility as she has a her free CV and kinda the best initiate ability ever. ( the slow doesnt count as Graves has a mini Noc's ulti).

Graves is better than Ashe at damage output and survivability at all stage of game.

Im right and i know it.