Talk:Riven/@comment-14081808-20150224002720

For everyone that says that Riven has no counters/champs that Riven players themselves find difficult to lane against when they play against a COMPETENT opponent, here is a list of such champs cross-referenced between the top 10 guides on MobaFire for Riven. Each champ was described as difficult on average between the guides, so there's no reason to complain about consistency. I avoided the guides that dealt with Mid lane simply because the majority of the time we discuss her as a top lane champion and doing so would confuse the issue. The list is as follows:

Garen

Darius

Shyvana

Renekton

Quinn

Gnar

Honorable mentions:

Poppy (A rare champ, and only mentioned once, but understandably hard)

Irelia (Was just below hard, in the Medium-Hard difficulty range)

This doesn't mean when you see Riven, pick up this champ and own her. These are the champs that if you already play them and practice with them, they can be trouble for a Riven who does the same. There is no counter that you can pick up spur of the moment and own Riven with. For that matter, the same is true for any champion, especially if the oppenent is good with their champ. For any counter-pick, you have to know them just as well as the opponent knows their own champion for it to be a counter-pick. Practice one or two of them and get a clue before saying that it doesn't work. Otherwise, you might as well have chosen a champ you know already because you at least know them.