Talk:Garen/@comment-5275191-20120815124349/@comment-76.95.197.162-20120815161100

About Judgement:

Against creeps, he is slightly more effective than before. Thus it is easier for him to farm and kill minions. 50% -> 75% damage is quite something.

Against other champs, it's a definite nerf. In the beginning, it is marginally better. But once you get items, roughly +10 damage, then it tapers off. Later on, it should be noticeably less. 1.1 conversion @lvl5 would work if the base damage of the ability @lvl5 was higher. But the damage even at lvl5 is so low that you would have to be lvl16-18 to get the same base damage. Once you factor in items, Judgement's Damage will have definitely fallen.

So Judgement Changes:

Less Damage on Champions overall.

More damage on minions, even with items.

The only good thing? He's more tanky when you get 125 MR/Armor. The Passive change to 9 from 7 seconds is going to be interesting.