Talk:Riven/@comment-6818722-20130301082050/@comment-5707860-20130301215624

i would still run 21/9

its possible to dodge the lux binds with decent reactions on valor or broken wings, or even just moving.

vayne is another matter, shes probably the one champ in the game that can outplay any other champ around mid game and beyond. even with flash up, her skill set is very strong.