Talk:Varus/@comment-8957269-20130618013508/@comment-5266525-20130622075040

I thought hybrid Varus got discredited already with The5lacker's blog a week ago. There's so many things wrong with your justifications I don't know where to start.

"You will deal 267 AD + 135 magic damage + 5% hp per AA, with a 25% crit chance, so 1 aa every 4 would crit."

- Nojsd

In other words, your sustained damage is absolute trash next to AD Varus against all but the most absolute crazy of armor stackers, on top of having less sustain and an insignificant amount more health shred.

"So tell me what guys you think :)

ps: i hate to build always the same 6 items on every adc -.-""

- Nojsd

I think that you have no idea how to ADC if you believe you should be buying the same items on ADCs all the time.

"If you don't know it, it's an hybrid build! Sure, if i would to build him adc, i would take a PD, but i need wit's end, for the magic dmg (42), for the magic steal (25 and it's a lot) (my AA, blight, ulti are magic damage, i prefer to shred some mr instead of armor) and in addition i will have 50 mr! And i should prefer a PD? For what? 8% more as? I have already 2.5 as. 5% ms? Nice but i prefer the mr. 30% crit? This is like a crit every 2 aa instead of 4. Yea it could be nice, but i prefer to be tanky.""

- Nojsd

42 magic damage quickly becomes irrelevant once you get to lategame and everything is dealing tons of damage. Same deal with 25 MR shred. 50 MR is okay defensively but it does not justify the item over a more focused defensive purchase like Banshees or Scimitar.

"Well obviously builds depends on teams composition, for example if my team is full ad, and their team is stacking armor, with this build varus will easily deals a lot more damage than AD varus."

- Nojsd

What kind of example is this? Are you really claiming that hybrid Varus is a legit situational pick because he's a tiny bit better with a full AD team comp (ie. extremely uncommon and a very, very bad idea)?

"Take a malphite with 250 armor. Ok, with AD varus i could have 24"

- 40% armor penetration. This means that i will ignore: 128 armor, a lot sure, but the damage reduction is 56%. I can crit 8-900, but this means 352-396 crit against malphite.

You are deliberately employing a double standard here. Hybrid Varus has to deal with resistances too, and he cannot even itemize for penetration to counter it.

Against a target with 125 armor and MR apiece (not a very tanky target, all things considered), your original calculation now turns out to be ~120 + ~2% HP physical damage and ~70 magic damage oer autoattack. In other words, almost useless. Even with a crit that 120 only goes to about 300 and you will STILL be critting far less often than AD Varus.

Your W detonations do an extra 9% damage? It won't matter in the end, as again you have little magic penetration to deal even with a mild amount of extra MR. AD Varus' W detonations might still end up outdamaging yours against a heavy armor stacker despite also having no MPen because they will be skimping on MR. And of course if they don't go full armor AD Varus just brute force out DPSes you with autos.

You basically have to collaborate with the enemy team in order to set up a situation where hybrid Varus is preferable to both his AD and AP variants, if it's even possible.