Talk:Ryze/@comment-79.107.255.196-20111019133900/@comment-3477331-20111023134330

would be cool if his ulti would have a bit more spell vamp and maybe a Mana heal like udyr's turtle. I mostly use it to heal myself and/or make a minion wave explode so that'd be kinda cool. But his kit overall is so strong with the mostly defensive mana items we have, that his ulti can't be much of an ultimate. It's more like karma's "ulti", which helps the other skills. And in a 1v1 ryze would use his ulti for the cdr to get his Q off cooldown.