Talk:Armor penetration/@comment-79.113.61.24-20120113221557/@comment-75.71.96.217-20120202075327

112 is assuming no other armor pen items/ runes, as arm pen% goes last on the list. If I'm rocking full arm pen runes and expertise (total of 31 armor pen) as, let's say Wukong, I smack someone with crushing blow, taking off 30% (this is reduction), then take off the 31 armor for the pen, THEN take 40% from that. at 112 armor, the last whisper is taking off an additional 19 armor. In order for last whisper to take off more armor than black cleaver (assuming full stacks on cleaver) with just arm pen runes and expertise (so, 31 more), you would need an armor score of 143. If you're wukong, with an 30% reduction, it jumps to 205. Urgot is 179, or if you're lucky enough to be attcking someone who just got hit with nidalee's trap, its 240.