Talk:Veigar/@comment-10880231-20140416060827/@comment-8185594-20140416102523

I've played quite a bit of support Veigar and have enjoyed it a lot, but he has a lot of trouble vs. bot lanes that know what they're doing. At levels 1-4, he's weaker than many conventional supports due to his long cooldowns, so if their support and ADC abuse your cooldowns properly, your ADC will get zoned from the creeps early on. Also, if you guys get shut down, it's pretty much over since Veigar desperately needs levels to work properly. He's definitely a hit or miss support; you either roflstomp their bot into the ground or get crushed yourselves.