Talk:Elise/@comment-84.165.181.35-20121026181539/@comment-69.248.213.87-20121026214916

depends on the lane, if the enemy tends to rarely trade, max q first, that way you win all trades or at least shove them out of lane. I find in lane that maxing w fist isn't the best as you don't really want to use it too much because you will shove your lane hard.

If your facing off against a highly aggressive lane or jungling, definately max your w first though, it'll give you some poke, and the ability to shove back more easily.