Talk:Ryze/@comment-121.54.46.148-20121016042343/@comment-68.109.110.108-20121111000136

^ same guy, wanted to add that even though % pen goes before flat (in season 3), flat reduction still goes before all pen, so ryze E and abbysal will reduce the effectiveness of void staff. For this reason unless the people you're trying to kill have 120-150+ MR (likely for bruisers and tanks) GA would probably be the better buy. If you REALLY want damage, because you're dominating but they refuse to get any MR, deathcap gives the best returns. Needless to say, this situation only comes up against idiots.