Talk:Lulu/@comment-4888212-20131128180132/@comment-181239-20131130124246

Following this logic all of supports should have winrate 50%~1%, if they are didn't able to carry games and their teammates do all the job. Too many people play this game to find that weak players always goes to the team with Lulu. Her winrate is also stable, on the level circa 45% every single day. If that wasn't the case, it should change everyday, jumping from high ratios to low.

Supports are able to carry games in their own way of high utility. Good casted Sona's R could be decididing factor in winning the game. Lulu on the other hand doesn't have skill so gamebreaking like other supports. She has a bit of everything and can effectively help in any kind of situation, but nothing really gamechanging, like some spells of other supports, here. IN addition to that she has very high skillcap for the support champion and needs a lot of reflexes, observation and fast thinking to be used effectively.

And she may really be a little too weak after recent changes.

So buffs are more than welcome, especially since she is my favorite support, but in Pre-S4 supportdle is losing in my ranking with Sona (Shurelya every 4 seconds is just too amazing).