Talk:Renekton/@comment-98.252.26.207-20110716230111/@comment-98.252.26.207-20110717061547

I know. I read that below. I don't like that build mathematically. :O

Specifically, my problems with it are Sunfire, Force of Nature and the Black Cleaver, none of which I find very efficient. In practice, they work, but I think there might be better ways to get the desired results. I don't know what they are yet, though. I'm fairly new to the game.

I don't like how expensive that build is either.

I can understand what you mean by leaving the Aegis to the tanks, though. But I feel that it's very efficient and easy to get, and even if I only get it for me, it still might be worth it. I see this as a competing for the Sunfire Cape spot. I'm not sure which one is better yet, especially when taking Atma's Impaler into account, which I like very much.

I see some Renektons go Sunfire Cape + Hexdrinker, and I like this idea because it adds to both offense and defense, but I don't like the Hexdrinker in general. The 35 AD is good, but the 30 MR and shield don't seem to help any, really.

Then the Sunfire Cape. It's not really necessary for farming, so it's really just 450 HP and 45 armor. Is that right? That's how it always feels to me. I feel like I can get more HP, armor and damage from other sources.

For example, I see a lot of ranked Renektons get Frozen Mallet + Atma's Impaler. Atma's Impaler is amazing and cost effective and because of that, might replace Bloodthirster for me. It's not just about AD - it's about the AD -and- the armor.

The idea here is to condense offense and defense into as few item slots as possible.

With Merc Treads, Brutalizer and Aegis, we have all the bases covered very early. I feel like I can augment this with a Phage, and eventually a Frozen Mallet, Atma's and Last Whisper.

This gives me more effective health than your recommended build for cheaper, but less overall armor, basically switches the armor and MR values, and loses 30 attack damage, which given Renekton's numbers, I don't think he'll feel that much. There are also variables given his higher survivability that I can't account for.

Armor/MR have diminishing returns, but I like to think that there's a nice balance you can achieve when you take into account Void Staff and magic penetration runes. Same goes for armor and armor penetration. So the relatively low armor/MR worries me a little with both builds, but I think Last Whisper can be replaced with something else in that scenario.

Sorry for the long post. These are the thoughts that are going through my head based on my limited experience, but I thought if I put them down here, you guys could set me straight. :O