Talk:Shyvana/@comment-14585319-20130818200918

I once saw a Shyvana with the item Spirit of the Lizard Elder. I know Incinerate refreshes every time it's applied, and doesn't stack with itself. So, does the first instance of damage from Incinerate occur the moment it is applied, or later? If it's the moment the debuff is applied, then that's bonus damage on Shyvana, and even acts as a way for her AP abilities to do more damage without getting AP.

Otherwise, the item isn't that great on her, considering she doesn't use mana, it's not that cost efficient (no benefit from mana regen), and the rest of the stats could be recieved from other items that are more helpful, such as Spirit of the Ancient Golem, Spirit Visage, Tiamat, BotRK, or Brutalizer into Black Cleaver or Youmuu's.