Talk:Udyr/@comment-173.176.232.24-20120627202148/@comment-3166305-20120628000532

Randuins is a good item on udyr. You dont always need it, but if you want it, go for it! The way you should gank is

1. Double check with team mates for wards. They destroy a no gp closer gank from udyr.

2. Try to get your team mates to inicate with hard cc moments before you rush in, giving you an easy stun.

3. Before you get FM or randuins, make sure to have red buff, and move in between aa's. This will let you stick on to a target.

4. If they burn flash, GANK SUCESS! gank again later since flash has quite the cd.

5. Don't be afraid to flash stun, or ghost in with bear stance on, if you can get the kill with a summoner spell, then get the kill.

6. Try not to use turtle, unless it is necessary, you want as much damage as possible.

7. Tower Diving is worth FB or a shut down, a 1-1 trade is not bad! If you die for a kill and your team mate gets it, fine! you did your job.

8. Don't only gank one lane, keep your ganks spread out.

9. If jungling with phoeniex, it is imperive to have a form of perma slow, since your damage is sustained, you need to keep up with your oponent.

10. DON'T CHASE SINGED

hope that helped.