Talk:Quinn/@comment-208.54.38.135-20130222035120/@comment-90.230.59.217-20130222124157

But the fact that there is a speed buff built in both in Quinn and Valor means you can take away a speed item and build a strictly sustain hp item like Frozen Mallet, and that will more or less make you tanky enough to still be very viable in Valor form even when you go into close 1vs1 combat.

And from looking at Valor´s skillset you could say that the form is either to iniate a team battle, finish it or to be able to catch up to pretty much anyone thats running from you, you will even be able to run up to Master Yi when he´s in ult form, and not a form to just stay in all the time.

And since 90% here havn´t played them, me included, and they still in pbe, it´s much to early to assume anything about how viable they will be in the game.