Talk:Graves/@comment-24704296-20140913084253/@comment-15020375-20140913233414

if you play him 2v2 on botlane, most enemy marksmen will outrange him and start zoning you if you don't go all in early, which is very risky. you need a support with decent cc like blitz, thresh or leona to keep your enemy in place so he doesn't kite you