Talk:Twisted Fate/@comment-9705522-20140318202219/@comment-24496127-20140318203914

Is tf rather weak right now and in need of a small buff? To that I'd say yes.

However, in practice, buffing tf is a hard thing to do without breaking him. As he is, when played well he has no hard counters. Even fizz has trouble if that tf just farms under tower or clears with red card q.

Now let's say they do buff him. Say....give his e better scaling or have him get it every three autos. That would make his ganks, that when executed properly are really hard to avoid, hurt that much more. And he'd likely become a huge lane bully.

As it is I can't think of any changes that will make him stronger without making him a permaban on the pro scene, and therefore by default a perma ban in pretty much everywhere else cause the pros ban him

Also, out of curiosity, what other champs push better than tf? I mean sure he doesn't take turrets as fast as an ad rengar, but who else can clear a minion wave with one ability, then proceed to chunk a turret for a third of it's hp in one attack?