Talk:Irelia/@comment-26034614-20150904192715/@comment-24496127-20150907205442

The thing with Irelia is, if you aren't playing someone who can ignore her stun or has range of some sort, you can't really safely dive her.

For example, I played Tahm Kench top, and killed her twice in a row. Once at level two, and then she tp'd back to lane, and I killed her again with minions help. Obviously, she was behind as all hell, but by just sitting at tower I couldn't really go on cause instant low cd point and click stun.

Sure she was too weak to duel me, but she was able to match me in farm by taking jungle camps if I let her minions push, and just sitting at tower if I didn't.

Point is, it's really really hard to deny an Irelia farm unless you're a very specific champion like Darius who can just burst her through her tankiness and cc...even if she's under her tower.