Talk:Shyvana/@comment-15020375-20131218020157/@comment-7846894-20131231032346

@Leyrann I use Renekton quite a lot, but not against Shyv. Out of a lot of experience with Renekton, even though I haven't done the match up myself. I figure that you're forced to dominate her early/poke her out of lane with your natural sustain and build tanky. However at best you're just keeping up with her building tanky and she will outscale you. And ultimately Renekton just survives the match up. A true counter to Shyvanna is, I find, Trundle. In built sustain, better dueling, and can nullify her presence in team fights through good use of his pillar and/or Ult+bortk combo. For reference I'm in Plat 5, and I main top lane. He also beats Mundo, but Mundo can just farm away from a distance. I've beat every Shyv and Mundo with Trundle so far and truly believe that he is a hard counter, since he scales as they scale. Rush a Bortk, the SV and you're golden. Then afterwards out of laning phase build according to your needs. You need no more damage than Bortk. However I suppose you could throw in a Triforce after tank items.