Talk:Swain/@comment-36002403-20190628072056/@comment-36002403-20190628083631

Im not having trouble to get outsustained or killed by Swain. Its the fact the he can generate a lot of gold since he can non stop make use of clepto and no matter how bad he trades as long as he holds his ult he is unkillable.

My problem is that i cant pressure Swain or Vladimir to be afraid of ganks. Ignite might be an alternative but im not a fan of it since TP is a game changer in a lot of situations.