Talk:Garen/@comment-89.171.250.145-20120821195040/@comment-4929329-20120822213301

I did all the math. He even has more resists than before with just Atmas and Mercy Treads, meaning Hp investment is best for tankiness. Proved it with math.

Garen does more dmg if you build him crit as well now, base Q and E dmg essentially skyrocketed, and more than covers for the nerf to E on its scaling. E base dmg crits now, and Q's autoattack portion can crit.

Extra "base" E dmg is about 20 without crit every second, but with IE, it becomes 250 or so extra base dmg PER SECOND. The total is actually 680 extra base thanks to total AD ratio, and to compensate for that, Old Garen needs 300 AD or so. This means you can't deal more dmg unless you like building glass cannon Garen. Even then Q will do way more than before, W is better, and R is useful late game.

You just didn't do as much math as I did.