Talk:The Black Cleaver/@comment-4862375-20121205035652

TBH I miss the ol' Black Cleaver, but since that wouldnt fit to the current damage calculation system by any means, the loss is negligible. (Unless theyve changed the order of armor reduction: first % then flat.)

I prefer this item to Youmuu on most champs, but there are a few exceptions (Garen, Panth, Xin). I wonder if the flat armor pen parts stack, but likely they do, right?

They could rework Van Damme's Pillager and make it purchasable on summoners' rift as well. It should be built from stinger and instead of health it should provide some AS and +10% more spell vamp (or something like that). However the flat armor pen wouldnt stack with other items.

Thoughts?