Talk:Jax/@comment-5211662-20140630081120/@comment-24466934-20140630082431

1.) I do agree here. Jax has rather high base defensive stats for a champion that already gets free stats from his ultimate. He is an older champion, and has been relatively untouched over time, which is perhaps why he has such high base stats. The nerfs to his base stats should bring him into line in this regard.

2.) Jax needs the high base damage because he is an autoattacking champion. He is meant to be played as tanky DPS. If they nerfed his base damage he would need to go full glass cannon, and that doesn't work with Jax. He needs to be able to get a lot of autoattacks off in a fight without being insta-killed. By having high base damage and relying on items, Jax also has a very lackluster early game. His high base damage doesn't even necessarily play a factor into why he is considered overpowered. It's not like Jax can instantly burst you down, he does it over time with autoattacks.

3.) This is true for all champions in League of Legends, in one way or another. Let's take AD Carries. If an AD Carry gets fed, you naturally build armor and health. The problem with that is that AD Carries have a reliable solution with armor penetration and health-shredding items. If an AP Carry gets fed, you naturally build magic resistance. The problem with this is that AP Carries too have a reliable solution with magic penetration items. You cannot nor are you meant to completely negate Jax's damage. You can reduce it. The way to counter Jax is to take him out of the fight before he can kill you. Jax is not a champion that can burst you down with a couple of moves. He has weaknesses. What you list here is not even a problem.

4) You are giving Jax way more credit than he deserves. His Counterstrike is there to assist him in surviving in fights so he can get off the aforementioned autoattacks to kill you. Every champion has an ability that assists their purpose. Ahri has her charm that she can land to increase her damage and land her skillshots. Ezreal has his arcane shift to compensate for his squishiness and so he can kite and lane skillshots.

5) Again, you are giving Jax more credit than he deserves. His kit is not as overpowered as you are making it out to be. Jax has clear weaknesses in his early game. Reducing his base stats should bring him more into line with the other champions.