Talk:Kayle/@comment-25218650-20161107083303/@comment-24082016-20161123054709

If he doesn't use Thunderlords, why'd you mention it in the first place?

 And Burst isn't only relevant if you can 1 shot somebody. If that was the case, noone would play burst champs because they can't 1 shot people from minute 1. The burst is to get champs low or out of fights as soon as possible. You wanna know what beats having high AS? It's needing fewer AAs to kill. I wonder what does that...That capability to "make a play" seems to only arrive after he's completed 4 items(unless he's on cleanup duty). Do you always find yourself in games that aren't over before you finish your 4th item? Have you not been subjected to a fed/farmed champ that too easily exploited your squishiness despite all the lovely DPS you've stacked up? Does it really sound stupid that you can do more DPS damage if you're alive twice as long, or even alive to begin with?

And why get Stormraiders if you aren't doing the kind of damage that chunks out a third of anyone? Is that the kind of DPS damage you see Kayle do against tanks and offtanks during laning phase? You think he's gonna do a third of a champs hp as damage pre lichbane, let alone pre guinsoo finish. The Stormraiders has literally 0 value during laning, and it remains as 0 until you've finished your 2nd/3rd item(around lvls 10-13). Even if you were to go mid with it, at least half the matchups you'd be unable to fulfill the stormraider requirements. Thunderlords usefulness can be seen right from lvl 2 since it's so easy to proc and gives kill pressure vs anything thats not a tank. It's the way to go ever since Rito made fervor officially garbage

It's you who's failed to realise something, which would be my point from the beginning. The build is flawed and super conditional in its effectiveness. It won't be relevant vs high damage comps that are better at overrunning/poking at a safe distance. Builds that have no defensive qualities are just that- defenseless. So be as glassy as you want on a DPS midrange champ who isn't your adc, just know that if you get in trouble, you're probably on ur own or gonna have to excuse yourself from any pending fights.