Talk:Varus/@comment-74.229.152.75-20130102094239/@comment-4916873-20130103140730

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"Kog Maw doesn't have to proc the stacks and he can ult while AA'ing and KogMaws range is better (with W but both (AP build) champions need CDR and CDR Maw has his W 24/7)"

Kog'Maw's range is better, yet Varus has a 2 second snare. Both offer utility to protect oneself against bruisers and are more useful over the other in different situations.

'Proccing the stacks' is less a hassle than one might think. @ 74.229.152.75

"I don't see how that is higher scaling on varus unless I am missing something"

The on-hit ratio's are of such significance to these champions that their other ratio's almost become obselete. This is due to the fact that they exploit Runaan's Hurricane Barrage ability.

Varus has an innate three times as large scaling on his auto-attacks in comparison to Kog'Maw. If we set the average full build HP of enemy champions to 2500 (which is on the high side), a (+ 1% per 100 AP)  scaling will be translated into a (+ 25% AP)  scaling (as 100 AP will deal 1% of 2500 = 25 damage to the enemy target).

So against an average target with 2500 HP, these are the auto-attack scalings for respectively Kog'Maw and Varus, including Spellsword.

Kog'Maw: (+ 100% AD)  (+ 30% AP)

Varus: (+ 100% AD)  (+ 80% AP)

Obviously, Kog'Maw has, like Ezreal, a spammable ability that he can cast while auto-attacking. This will add some additional AP scaling to his damage output, but mind that this ability does not have the highest scaling, requires a very large mana pool to sustain and is much easier to dodge than both champion's other skillshots. Having a spammable ability, Kog'Maw can build a Lich Bane, something Varus can't do effectively, but it's the question if, compared to the auto-attack damage and scaling, this truly adds a significant amount of AP scaling.

Regarding the other abilities that Kog'Maw and Varus have: Varus ult and skillshots are comparable in damage to the two additional AP-scaling abilities Kog'Maw has. Mind that Varus' abilities offer more area of effect damage. Kog'Maw's passive attack speed bonus is comparable with Varus' attack speed bonus, but Kog'Maw's passive is unique.