Talk:Udyr/@comment-5763148-20140709010802/@comment-5763148-20140814002302

I do betr with Phoenix than I do with Tiger. Phoenix at least gives me a degree of zone control and minion wave manipulation. Tiger forces me to get in there.

I can even beat Kayle at Top with Phoenix and we all know Kayle counters Udyr 100% of the time mechanic wise.