Talk:Shen/@comment-4659726-20121025061403/@comment-4677525-20121030075305

I agree with Proton. Right now he is actually pretty balanced and statistically (if he weren't permabanned) he wins probably as many games as he loses. But he is considered permaban-worthy mainly because:

1) He's really annoying to play against with his ultimate

2) He has sort of developed this stigma surrounding his "OPness" since the rework that people are unwilling to shake off. He isn't even banned in tournaments as much anymore as people are finding more and more ways of dealing with him both in lane and jungle.