Talk:Riven/@comment-33536623-20140127122040/@comment-4888212-20140131010932

to zelmawiz: play udyr, he actually takes a dump on her in lane.

to leyrann and starsaviour.

you guys forget the creative use of abilities.

i play a fair amount of riven, and why not just stun garen when he runs at you? then QE immediately to have a 1.5sec shield for the trade (which equals half his spinduration), being able to follow up with a knockup later, and having 3(!!!) enhanced autoattacks, should he still be able to pull his silence off.

but by numbercrunching alone, riven comes out on top.

sure, you will have problems keeping garen in fight, thus his passive will kick in and finally outsustain you.

but this is WHY YOU DONT ENGAGE ON GAREN FOR FUCKS SAKE.

make a passive farm lane, get your gold via CS. you dont have to bumrush every toplaner there is just because you are used to it. yo ucan take a few trades should he initiate on you (which he will most likely only do once he has items or his shield is ready to be used). due to creative use and the upper hand in the damage, you should and will be able to come far enough ahead out of the fight to buy enough time for yourself to get close to full hp again while his passive does the same.

in the end, he will be a tanky fighter, being able to dive into the enemy team.... wow.

in the end, you will 3shot everything that comes close to you and get away easily, soaking up damage with AD scaling shield.

if you feel really uncomfortable against garen, why not just pick barrier (its actually a really really good spell for riven).

i have to say i am with starsaviour here.

the only guys i had problems with in lane, were renekton (dat sustain man) and udyr.

and renekton is mostly a skill-setup. udyr just rams your sword up your **** when he gets close to you/you get close to him.

so yea, easy and fast guide cuz leyrann doesnt like to read posts as a whole:

stun garen when he approaches, store passive, outtrade, repeat.

oh, and DONT ENGAGE ON GAREN.