Talk:Graves/@comment-25956640-20150422000350/@comment-1920550-20150422001744

The damage differencial is minimal...it's somewhat worse on if you use it as a poke spell and slightly better if you use it as an all in spell...Graves needs a rework that can focus his kit into AOE all-in trades, make him lose some safety and give him better damage the more he puts himself into enemy territory.

Although Riot's timing of this change is a bit iffy, given how Graves is out of the meta due to the hypertanks roaming around. Unless they assume the new Black Cleaver will become a new mandatory ADC item due to the stats being appealing for AD heavy marksmen and when facing against armor stacking tanks.