Talk:Veigar/@comment-71.183.89.4-20120610180128/@comment-201.47.224.99-20120610221935

Low attack range, low mobility/survivability for the range, no steroids, farming Q impossible since you won't itemize CDR or mana regen, and the most important, LOW ATTACK SPEED.

The % attack speed from itens means it will increase your champion base attack speed by that amount (+%50 attack speed on a 0.600 base attack speed champion gives him 0.3 extra attacks per second). Champion with 0.625 or less base attack speed scale remarkable poorly with it.

In other words, get graves and you will pretty much do everything Veigar does but better, EXCEPT AoE stunning (but you can AoE blind, and that's a stun to carries) and anti-AP specific nuking (but you can nuke pretty harder in general because your nuke scales out of AD and you can itemize armor pen for it; it also has longer range).