Talk:Riven/@comment-5209745-20120825124342/@comment-4834593-20120827133910

A full reasoning, showing stat by stat it is a bad item:

Ability Power - Wasted.

Attack damage - Useful. But this item costs 4k and gives 30, while The Bloodthirster costs 3k and gives 60-100, depending on how braindead or not braindead you are.

Attack Speed - Wasted. Q resets the autoattack timer, and after W, you can't autoattack for half a seconds. Play AD carry build Riven against bots if you don't believe me.

Critical Strike Chance - Your passive doesn't crit, plus you are not an AD carry or bruiser, you are an AD caster. At least something like 40% (and I think more like 60%) of your damage will not come from autoattacks.

Health - If you need health, you are bad at Riven. Riven needs to ult - flash - w - qqq - ult and kill, even without autoattacks in between. Against carries, you can do this if you know what you are doing.

Mana - Wasted.

Movement Speed - Wasted. You are dashing half of the time.

Slow Proc - Wasted, same reason why movement speed is wasted. You have dashes, dashes, and more dashes. On short cooldowns.

Sheen Proc - Scales on base AD, you know? Only 156 damage, two to three times in your combo. After attack damage the most useful stat, despite being bad.

To add to this - What part do you want to build first? Sheen wasts 80% of its cost totally. Phage gives about 60% useful stats, health and slow both being a bit meh. Zeal only gives stats that are useless. So even if you say that Phage is nice to build, after that you have to waste a lot of gold.

As above poster also said, for the same gold, you can get The Bloodthirster and The Brutalizer, giving 85-125 attack damage, 12-20% life steal (you won't get harrased out of lane now), 15 armor penetration, and 10% cooldown reduction. All four are great on Riven, life steal least of those. But life steal keeps you in lane when last hitting.

Oh, yeah, if you say you want some health, every point of attack damage gives you about 2-3 health worth as shield.