Talk:Varus/@comment-13203425-20160505154906

So I've noticed that guinsoo's runaans on varus has become popular. I've been using it for a while to smooth out the power curve on my ap varus builds, but the meta has sort of confirmed for me that I should build runaans before other ap items most of the time whereas I was still looking for a proper order.

However the secret meta builds ad after the 2 item combo. I want to start a theorycraft session on what would be optimized for this. My runes are hybrid pen reds, ad quints and cdr blues. This means that early game my q's and e's  are probably stronger than either build with as quints and maybe even better than full ad rune pages. However, as quints are one of the strongest runes for marksman and varus autos alot with this build so i wonder whats optimal. Hybrid pen and aspd probably wouldn't work since some ad is necessary for last hitting under tower. I also just want to know the general strength of these runes on somebody that can use them well.

Situationally being able to swap between ad or ap after 3 items is a good strength, but I will probably lean towards the ap build more often. Would sorcerer shoes be better than berserker's grieves since my passive, guinsoo's, runaans and nashors all give as? This could also be an argument against the quints. Next comes the question of gunblade. From the ad builds that I've seen they usually focus on ls at this point. Gunblade would allow you to prolong the ad/hybrid path a bit longer. It's also competetive against the other ls options at this slot, possibly even with crit synergy against it. If cleanse is needed merc is the biggest competitor. Also, if guinsoos was enough to stomp lane and runaans was enough to stomp teamfights, maybe one would like to spec into poke.