Talk:Ryze/@comment-4579700-20120718233315/@comment-72.220.144.94-20120803234813

Ryze counters Veigar because Banshee's Veil is a natural part of his build, blocking either the stun or the initial part of Veigar's burst (usually DFG). In this same sense, Blitzcrank counters him too (which he does, by far. Try taking a Blitzcrank mid against Veigar and you will not lose the lane as long as you build catalyst. It's unconventional, but it works).

However, Ryze does not innately counter Veigar, it is his build that allows him to do so. A farmed Veigar with Void staff should be able to instakill almost anyone at any stage of the game unless they have stacked a lot of health and/or have a shield, Banshee's included.