Talk:Sejuani/@comment-79.42.169.55-20130306171823

The entire "Amumu over Sejuani" argument is completely urrelevant, as the former is basically permabanned in ranked soloqueue games.

Also, Nautilus has been gimped a fraking lot by the new jungle. Monsters have tons of HP compared to S2, and his shield don't last for more than 2 AA. Basically, he has no damage mitigation and lacklustre clearing speed, and is completely reliant on his first ganks to determine if he'll be able to transition midgame, or if he will instead just make the game a 4v5 in opponent team's favor.

Sejuani may in fact lose to Amumu, but considering he's permabanned, this doesn't mean anything, and is currently FAR ahead of Nautilus, as her clearing speed is great (thus giving her much more survivability in the jungle). Also, her great (compared to other tanky junglers) damage output earlygame, combined with the high amount of CCs and mobility, ensures a stellar early to mid game if played correctly, and doesn't require that much skill either. Also, lategame she becomes a peeling monster, and nobody will ever manage to reach the ADCarry, thanks to massive slows, knockbacks and an AoE stun.