Talk:Kindred/@comment-16064126-20151011021743/@comment-5955640-20151011165844

How can you say all these things about the champ that hasn't come out yet? None of the pet systems are complex. We will probably never have the Dota Lone Druid in this game because when done well he turns teams into 6v5 which is pretty OP but when not done well you have a wasted champ and his pet.

It's basically controlling two champs and that's well outside of League's design not only that it would be incredibly difficult for the average player to manage.

At worst Wolf is no better than any other pet. At best Wolf is the most interactive pet thus far. Really think about it. Aside from Valor who is the weapon that Quinn commands in almost all of her attacks. Wolf's design is based around him attacking targets and working of his own free will with Lamb.

I've said that before. They didn't make Kindred in the idea that the Marksman jungle didn't exist. They make Kindred because the marksman in the jungle role is really weak and hard to prop up without a proper setup and even then all the marksman junglers are getting nerfed with the devourer nerf making only Ezreal unbothered by the change.

Kindred is designed to function best in the jungle with inbuilt sustain, a system that enables you extra damage from just farming the jungle, and some special abilities that help out when you farm and when you gank.

I mean. We have marksmen that were basically designed for top lane. We have a midlane Marksman. And we have a ton of marksmen bottoms. Now we have a marksman jungle. Please Understand.

It's not a good example of that because there is no example of that. A champion doesn't get made until it passes through the concept phase at which point it's tooled to work in game. Concept phase Ziggs was two Yordles riding a Motorcyle. Kindred isn't even close to having changed that much in the concept phase.