Talk:Elise/@comment-96.241.114.20-20121108012326/@comment-4167645-20121109204914

A little? Late game is the final term paper for an Elise. If you somehow managed to cram enough items in, congrats you pass and can continue to contribute.

If you didn't? The best you can do is linger around the sidelines and never ever enter spider mode, because either you don't do enough damage in spider to warrant the risk or you aren't tanky enough to survive in spider mode for 2 seconds. So whats that leave you with? W. Thats the only harass that can be safely done because Q will just get you jumped on by an enemy, and to be frank, in the late game everyone can outrun a W.

Gragas' barrel is a much more reliabile volatile spiderling, its got better damage and ratios, never rams itself into creeps, and the cooldown. Oh, the cooldown. I thought Gragas' barrel roll cooldown was long and unbearable, but volatile spiderling just crushes that belief.