Talk:Caitlyn/@comment-8969250-20170119181841/@comment-31239872-20170205192328

I have played ADC a handful of times and support slightly more than that, so I am clearly very qualified to discuss the bottom lane (lol). Anyway, I do think ADCs are justified in their complaints. The assassin rework which was supposed to increase the time one can outplay only made the assassins deal more damage in 1.5 seconds, but less in 0.5 seconds (except for Rengar). So they still blow up ADCs.

The meta has gotten out-of-hand for ADCs, to the point where the only viable picks are Jhin and Varus. Sure you can play Twitch, Cait, Vayne, and I would say Cait is a fine pick, but most ADCs other than Jhin, Varus, and Cait do not deal enough ability damage to justify how quickly they die in AA range. That's why we are seeing Ziggs ADC, more Ashe just as a utility ADC, and more Kennen ADC than ever.

As for the supports, first of all I think Brand is a fine support pick. And these picks are not "selfish" as some people have said, but are just strong. Gone are the days of Leona's CC being enough to win a fight. You jump in on Jhin ADC as Leona and the Karma Support shields him, Mantra Q's you, and uses her chain to keep you down. Then when Jhin comes up you get outtraded. Way back before the tank update the top-lane meta was more aligned towards carries (though not by much), so that beefy support was so useful. Now your Top laner has enoug tank for the top, support, and jungle roles, so they can play more damage champs. Not to metion with the addition of redemption every damage support (except MF) can heal their entire team.

Yes, every lane has its shit meta. Top is basically tank-only save for a few picks, mid is dominated by control mages (yay for me, the Ziggs main), jungle is expected to be more carry-oriented, and the damage roles in the bot lane have sort of switched. The point is that this game will never be completely balanced. My advice, if a champ is even remotely viable, and is someone you love to play, just play them. /mute all your team and have fun. Sometimes that's the only way to have fun in this game anymore.