Talk:Veigar/@comment-109.173.128.225-20120304103538/@comment-86.29.128.242-20120307172343

lol he was never the worst champ in the game. even before the buffs which were only relevant to his early/mid game, he could 100-0 just about anything in existence. He always has had one of the best effective ap ratio's in the game (2.8, plus 0.8 of the enemy), and infinite AP because of baleful last hits. only reason he wasn't considered remotely strong before is his early/mid game mana costs were absurd.