Talk:Wukong/@comment-8969250-20150416182746/@comment-5955640-20150416191237

Why are you comparing Talon to Wukong?

If you really want to do this lets break it down.

They were released within a month of each other in 2011. The time when champion designs were rushed, themes ended up kind of half cooked, And designs end up being confusing and overly simliar. Despite that both these champs actually manage to hit up their intentions as characters given that Wukong is Sun Wukong the Stone Monkey who uses a staff as a weapon, flies upon the cloud nimbus, and has some powers in deception.

Talon is an assassin. He kills people. Quickily presumably. Comes out of nowhere and takes you out before you get a chance to react. We kind of have a lot of assassins who fill that theme so I guess Talon's character is really his weapon.

Wukong's Ult is not just used for damage and he's not a real asssassin. Under most situations Wukong gets in for the knockup and gets out. If he's fed he might focus down and kill one target. Full damage from the ult is when someone just stands there and takes the whole duration. Meanwhile Talon's full combo is far more briefer and the ult lets him get away if he wants to. Wukong's E or W is to get in or out but Talon is all in E and can get out with another or in with ult.

Talon has for more positioning power for a kill while Wukong has just a stronger setup for a team fight initation where he doesn't have to tank if he's clever about it.

Wukong's range is longer because he has a longer weapon. Yeah it's that simple.

It's Neither Favoritism or Incompetence from the balance department.

That's really a trick question. It's in the hands of the design department. Everything that both those champs are settled with was settled when they were making him and Wukong just designed himself meanwhile Talon has a lot less to go on as a design other than ya know. His weapon.

The balance staff just settles on what to do with the champions based on how they perform in metas and to be honest. Both are really good at what they do not the best at their paticular roles but they are far from being outweighed by each other.

Well. Talon has problems but that's the Assassin role problem in general which Wukong subverts by being more of a light bruiser.