Talk:Lee Sin/@comment-4915200-20130817035212/@comment-10590654-20130821164418

Pick rate? That doesn't mean he is easy, just popular, and anyway he has 48 percentish winrate in ranked in general. Alternatives you have any bruiser jungler like jarvan or xin, less mobility but better scaling and tfs. You want strong and easy? Twisted fate, easy skillshot with a stun and global ult, banned all the time with 8 percent winrate. No easy is not popular imo.

And lcs picks and bans? That's the top players in the game... aka people who can insec etc. And if you can Insec it's probably because you're in YOLO Q like me where people dont peel etc. If you are in a gold or higher wether it's in premade or solo then yeah  people will peel you off.

And they cant punish you for your mistakes? Just because lee has w doesn't mean he goes unpunished that's stupid, then any champ with a dash and a knockback is unpunishable.

And please don't say trist is as easy as lee... and adc with a double escape you mean? I don't get decision making here, just auto fromm 600ish range and flee, sure her early sux but shes a hypercarry. (if you are talking ap trist then ok maybe but no one plays that except aram dudes)

And if lee is so superior as an assassin with damage and scaling why not build him assassin in LCS? He's not one, he can not kill late unless roaming and finding a lone carry in the jungle. Also he has no tank abilities apart from safeguard and sacrifices a true defense item for mobility, so you build him tanky and even then another tanky guy like vi(percent hp shiled) jarvan (bigger shield than lee and an armor pen spear that lets him do dmg when tanky) or heca(not that relevant cuz hes late game hypercarry champ but whateva).

Anyway my point is I do not agree lee is easy, popular for some reason (post-Insec seems likely) and strong at pro level, but in general for most of us lolers meh.

Anyways that is my opinion and you are entitled to yours but I stand by my opinion that lee is a hard champ to master fully but I give up trying to convince you or anyone else that thinks otherwise. Have fun abusing lee to diamond if hes easy and op ^^.