Talk:Elise/@comment-11370625-20130718071951/@comment-7967732-20130718102646

Doran start is only good vs people with no sustain or having a really hard time dealing any damage to you (Darius, Garen...). Otherwise Faerie Charm + pots + ward is the best start against most.

Buying early armor/mr is never good unless you are losing hard (which should not happen). Haunting guise is the best "secondary" item that offers all she needs and it does scale very well late game thanks to that magic pen.

Elise needs some AP but her scaling is not good so I will never recommend building her as a squishy AP carry. Magic pen (either flat or %) + CDR with some AP will be more beneficial than the kill 1 and die instantly after build