Talk:Lee Sin/@comment-202.180.87.103-20120527232549/@comment-15562896-20120528075747

Ganking : Pre six : Lee Sin > Nocturne, post six with ult up, Noc > Lee

Jungling : They're somewhat similar, Lee probably has the edge because he's a better duelist early on and can start wherever he pleases while most Nocs will start blue.

Late game : Noc. He can initiate, Lee Sin can't really, he can instagib squishies while built tanky, Lee can do that too but he has troubles getting in melee range unless someone else initiates.

I've played numerous games as Lee Sin and tbh despite being an early-mid game god I still lost because my team was somehow behind and he's just a bad bruiser in teamfights. I would have won 90% of these games if I had had basically any other bruiser.