Talk:Fiddlesticks/@comment-5663427-20140918183935/@comment-25122281-20141028173102

"So what is the counterplay to the first ally"

Also walk away?

The point of those nerfs was that, for example: Kassadin jumps on you, silences you, unleashes his full combo, jumps away (provided he didn't kill you). Meanwhile all you can do is autoattack him. Same for LeBlanc. I don't know about Talon since he can't jump away, so maybe they were too harsh on him as you can counterattack him afterwards. But playing a caster against Kass or LB was just pure frustration. There was absolutely nothing you could do against them.

But Fiddle would have to surprise you with his ult (or at least use his flash) for this to work the same way. His ult's channel is long enough so you can see it coming and run away. If he just silences you, so what? If he ults+silences it's your fault for getting caught off guard. There is counterplay, contrary to pre-nerf Kassadin or LB.