Talk:Gragas/@comment-74.142.160.77-20120913182057/@comment-4105539-20120914050309

Rod of Ages would be a better option against double AP or a tough early game. more Doran's would be a better option if you can't get your blue. Chalice and Grail are really designed for champions that burn through mana excessively, with no means of replenishing their mana themselves.

Anivia is an excellent example of this. Her ultimate is an important part of her farming, her team fights, and her intimidation, but is incredibly expensive to use. Anivia herself has nothing but her natural mana regen to sustain this, so chalice is a good option.

Gragas on the other hand can farm entire waves with a single Q. He has an additional mana regen tool in his W. His damage is dictated by his cooldowns, with mana being only an after thought of how you have managed it.

Would Chalice/Athenes be a terrible item on Gragas? No, he would get use out of it. But there are incredibly few to no situations where there isnt a better option for him.