Talk:Udyr/@comment-4019444-20120409060727/@comment-4709680-20120412122751

Indeed start with turtle is the worst thing Udyr can do, i never said you should start with it. BUT start with bear can be usefull on a early gank on lvl 1. Tough generaly you go Tiger or maybe Phoenix.

Malp and Nasus run out of mana too fast to try to trade with Udyr. Nasus at least have sustain, Malp have nothing than that shield that makes him play passive to regenerate.

Both can be dealt with some effort, but with sure. Now Udyr can't trade with Singed, cuz its Singed, he just slow poison run fling and so, but he can't kill you aswell.

Wanna counter Udyr go ranged and you are settled. That's all. Go Ashe and Udyr will cry a river.

The OP asked about counters to Udyr and not personal opinion about "how Udyr is badass ", please Blob.