Talk:Volibear/@comment-210.195.30.47-20120521121258/@comment-80.15.143.26-20120521184122

thornmail is a bad item, really. you're better off with a frozen heart the passive of 20% AS decrease is just too good to pass up on a teamfight thornmail may punish them a lil bit ( like countering 1 BT heal, but FH will lower the damage on the others which is what you want)

also i find your build to be more of an usual offtank build, this is not taking advantage of volibear's strength at all, he needs some AS for his ulti to dish out damage:

- drop merc get zerks (you won't need tenacity that much)

- drop thornmail get FH (really better altogether)

-drop the atma get a wit's end

i know atma is nice with FM and warmog BUT this gies what 60-70 bonus AD after nerf? 42 bonus magic damage and AS is much better, 42 magic damage will deal more damage then 60 AD without armor pen in most cases and 18% crit is nice to have but 40% AS on his ult is much better

this will give you a few less armor but easily 250ish which is enough

more MR (wit's end > merc because of it's passive)

MUCH more AS and you'll notice the DPS on that ulti WILL actually make you dangerous while still nearly unkillable