Talk:Fizz/@comment-25912163-20150531095822/@comment-26003690-20150613154137

"You clearly dont know how tf is played at all so if I were you I would at least learn the skills of the champion I am about to bash. TF has by far the best engage IN THE GAME (ulti zhonya learn the champ), gets ghost and distortion boots so he is mobile in tfs since ghost on 150 sec cd means it will be up in every tf. he might not have untargetability, but he is not melee so he does not need a defense mechanism of that extent either. He also has global map pressure better consistent damage, better poke, better engage (no fizz cant engage unless you are wood VI), is safer, has superior waveclear, takes down towers faster, has more utility, and unlike fizz, his combo is cannot be disrupted by flash. Yes fizz is different than tf and there are many circumstances that must be considered when we talk about fizz wq and tf ew. The thing is TF is better than fizz at everything else as well, except for mobility, which is made up for by ghost."

- Talonmain

Then Fizz should be buffed, right?