Talk:Lulu/@comment-5605969-20131121185004/@comment-3466579-20131122102607

Frost Queen's Claim is a great item for supports actively using their skills and auto attacks to harass their opponents. Sona and Nami can be good support to build it on. Talisman of Ascension is better suited for those supports with a more passive playstyle. Janna may not use the Claim's Passive like Sona can, so the Talisman may be a better idea.

Overall, i think Talisman's Active is better, but stats wise the Claim is more useful, if your support can put AP to a really good use.

I've tried both items on Lulu and i can say that the Frost Queen's Claim may be the best item for her, with its passive synergising quite well with Lulu's kit. As you said, the Face of the Mountain is probably best used on tanky supports.