Talk:Graves/@comment-82.139.177.115-20111023163210/@comment-4165869-20111024082010

There's a difference between being balanced, and being outclassed by other champions. For example, Pantheon is balanced, but also outclassed by other melee champions if you try to force him to go head to head with a really tanky DPS champion, like say Jarvan.

MF is balanced, but lacks a (reliable) skill that scales with AD for sudden burst, like Caitlyn, Vayne, Ashe or Graves have. Now sure, Grave's will probably have some number tweaks to his Q since it can be a little unreasonable if he gets an early BF sword, but overall he seems pretty balanced at the moment.