Talk:Lee Sin/@comment-84.251.20.14-20130307005856

I would've been fine with the armor removal of W and slow nerf on E...but severe range nerfs are what ruin the "feel" of playing champions you were comfortable with. Just look at Urgot and what happened to him. I used to enjoy him but after the nerfs, not so much.

At least the range of his Q wasn't nerfed. Let's not give them ideas...

While I do well with Lee Sin, even I am struggling to see any reason to pick him over Jarvan IV, Xin Zhao, Vi, Hecarim and Amumu. Better lategames, scaling, initiation and easier to not mess up with. The only thing he has goin

"We want to open up more jungling options" my ass. I still see nobody play Nautilus, Udyr, Shyvana, Skarner, Shaco (yes, you heard me right), Warwick, Fiddlesticks, Gangplank, Nocturne or hell, even Olaf after his massive nerfs. Nah, just pick your bruiser of choice with percentage based damage scalings and percentage based armor penetration to kingdom come and build straight defensive stats while remaining relevant in terms of damage.