Talk:Heimerdinger/@comment-79.186.230.216-20110718202117/@comment-217.77.45.29-20110729091821

^ reminder, that is rounded magic dps from each turret, with 60 penetration (+15%) earlygame, and 40 + 15% late-game (but more ap & hp) rockets and grenade also do decent damage even at base, or with 150 ap (my usual build) and you should NEVER try melee heimer, unless you got something anti-blind.. but if we're desperate and everyone agrees to me switching out the boots, very late-game, I'd get 20 + 55% penetration (as well as 70 more ap.)