Talk:Thornmail/@comment-4641298-20120109172321/@comment-71.210.56.142-20120120054750

The only parts of your comments I agree with is the Randuin's Omen recommendation and the advice against rushing Thornmail, as the rest isn't all to great. The 150 armor from DBC assumes it is both up and at max rank, which most people max second, the first being taunt, meaning Rammus still needs some armor. Aegis is taken by many supports, and is not near as effective as people think on tanks, especially with their high risk jobs; if you're not dead soon after initiating, you're probably running for you're life or the fight's over, if you're a good tank. Frozen Heart is decent, but most people get CDR from Shurelya's and/or runes/masteries, and the passive is antagonistic towards DBC (and it's taunt combo) in some regards, whereas Thornmail fully synergizes.

Most people attack tanks for two reasons: their CC (especially in Rammus's case), and because they can't attack anything else. When a tank enters a fight, they're going to take damage, simply because that's all the enemy can attack, and they'll do so regardless of what you build. Besides, while good players avoid attacking tanks (no matter their build), good tanks force them to do so.

You seem to have gotten things mixed up: tanks build Thornmail to counter lifesteal. Rammus is especially good at picking off a single target, and a good Rammus player will grab the opponent's carry with Taunt, negating their lifesteal with Thornmail and DBC while Rammus's allies destroy them.

I'm almost tempted to say you're a troll. You contradict yourself by saying that Thornmail's armor is not enough because of armor pen, yet say that DBC is enough armor. The only tank I've heard of using Wit's End more than once in a blue moon is Cho'Gath. Even worse is your recommendation for a BLOODTHIRSTIER, of all things. Rammus is notorious for his poor farm- it's partly why he's in the jungle in the first place, and even then he's normally ganking. If a game goes on long enough, you might get the stacks from Tremors, but it really isn't worth it, especially, again, with his high risk job. Besides, Rammus is a tank, not a tanky DPS nor a carry, and generally should avoid building damage. It's exactly why his passive is what it is; he promotes building a tank, albeit an armor focused one. You really seem to have no idea how to build him, and just add whatever and hope it comes out fine.