Talk:Urgot/@comment-24570890-20140220142604/@comment-24570890-20140220234039

errr, no. i can think of a lot of reasons why urgot sucks in the jungle. hell, ill make a list -bad clearing: fairly simple, he doesnt have big clearing tools, he is really really slow his clear is great... what are you talking about? Not Warwick or Yi amazing, but is not slow by any means. -bad sustain: no hp sustain, his shield is weak early and his mana still drains rather quickly with the cd on his q 5 hp pots with blue buff give sustain first clear, new jung items give sustain. not all junglers need their own source of sustain. -atrocious dueling: urgot just cant compete with any of the junglers that are popular right now. lee, vi, pantheon and wu just murder him. i havn't had any problems here. in fact i ussually get my first kill off of dueling the opposing junger. -bad ganking: slow, unreliable cc, weak cc. only thing he has is his ult, which has its own fair share of problems. I mentioned this, yes it is a problem to gank in lane. (can still be done if you have good mechanics) But his counter ganks are amazing. Especially if a player runs into the river or jungle to leave or change lanes to gank. -weak lategame for a jungler: your team will lack a true initiation, and instead has urgot who .... doesnt really do much if he isnt ahead. A lot of characters have a weak late game, such as panth. You just have to organize your team right, or try to win mid game. While this is true, it is even more true in the adc role, which almost always requires a strong late game. -thing is, urgot is underpowered. he is purposely kept underpowered. however, he can still be played well enough to win games. but where? of course, bot. in fact, one of the na challengers got there by maining urgot bot. Remember that this is the current best position, not what used to be good and was used to go up the ladder. This is referring to how the game is at the current moment. And i am not saying you can't do well in bot either, in fact he can actually go in all roles decently. But due to the current meta situation, i have found the jungle to be the best place for him.