Talk:Shyvana/@comment-24049414-20140107084440/@comment-5209745-20140116162849

"A lot of this seems wrongheaded to me. I'm not sure why the word buff is in quotation marks, as if the claim that she (or her laning) was buffed is dubious."

It's on those marks because it wasn't much a buff but rather a minor rework that was in dire need. But you know better, right?

"Most of Shyvanna's damage is magic, and magic damage is harder to build against early game than physical (negatron and potions is not a common starting build because it starves you of sustain). The 2% max HP per hit also helps her considerably in going toe to toe with the strongest and most prevalent tops in the game at the moment - Renekton, Mundo and tanky Rengar - of course it does, becuase they build HP (aaaaaaaaw, it all makes sense!), so her old 15% armour pen would have done far less good for her than the new 2% max HP damage per hit in the current meta."

You also begin with more MR than armor. Her W damage hardly scales, while any damage from E doesn't scales at all with anything that she builds. Do you begin to see how easily manipulable she is?

I can't believe that you're able to see things making sense, but unable to pick anything more aggresive that doesn't escales with that "dreaded" 2% max HP dmg.

"as I already said, the defensive and offensive mastery changes highly favour tanky champions (bye bye Wukong and Jax) because they make better use of them and there's less access to penetration unless you go deep in the damage tree, but doing so as a Wu or a Jax will not enable you to beat a Renekton, Nasus, Rengar or Shyvanna who takes defensive masteries and builds pure tank because you'll be too squishy."

This is something that works for anyone, not just Shyvana. And please, the only reason for not picking an aggresive top is just that either you're too sheepy to break the meta or you are just too afraid of use them when they still work.

"Clearly the fact that she's doing incredibly well in top means that she doesn't need sustain, what she has is enough, so the point is irrelevant."

Da fuq? So firstly you claim that she has sustain and that it is problematic, then you say that she doesn't needs it and that it is irrelevant?

Clear up your mind, please.