Talk:Karma/@comment-25223119-20160602044740/@comment-27877809-20160607003837

In the late game her role shifts from being a primary damage source to being a support mage. Yeah, her win rate does fall off after like 25 minutes. And maybe it is because people are unable to adapt to the circumstances. I feel like in teams with strong late game carries, Karma can really shine, especially after the huge buffs to her shield.

The new Athene's looks like it's made for Karma, but it just sucks stat-wise. If it had more AP or a better passive, then maybe.. Ardent Censer is a good example, same AP, but the passive is really worth it, if you have a aa-heavy team.

For some reason though, her win rate keeps falling and falling, staying below average, despite multiple (minor) buffs in the past. So maybe the root of the problem has yet to be found. Imo her W needs to be tweaked.