Talk:Kindred/@comment-26990254-20150915231128

Because Kindred has 500 range, you can definitely flex them with ADC and jungle imo. I don't think stacking up the passive early game outweighs the value of hitting core power spikes earlier. With the devourer nerf for ranged champions (4 hits instead of 2), I don't feel like the item will really amplify what could have been disgusting damage coming from Kindred to the point where it seems necessary.

The current tradeoffs as I see it is if you jungle them, you get faster passive stacks but a much slower effective build path. You also sacrifice the jungling position for someone with relatively low amounts of pressure seeing as how the only ganking tool they have is a 70% slow for 1 second. You will need a laners with the right tools to set you up. Keep in mind % current health will be inherently less effective early game.

Looks like a base damage monster. For that, AS seems favored over AD (botrk instead of BT for example). The passive amplifies this, but unfortunately the base AS doesn't really compliment it. I do think they can be played bot lane despite obvious weaknesses. It all depends if you value the higher gold income to hit item marks over generating passive stacks. Also you need to consider the time it'll take before you become a threat out of the jungle over having a more early game oriented jungler.

If the game can drag out 35 min+ with Kindred jungle, you would be better off than laning. If not, you can be closed out really quickly with very little resistance. I like the meaningful decision making you get with the champion depending on where you go. The passive is good, but not as good as most people are making it out to be. You hunger for 1 jungle creep at a time, and a jungle rotation early game can take as long as 4 minutes while later in the game it'll take 2 minutes. Even as a dedicated farming jungler with occasional ganks, do not expect to have more than 12 stacks at the 20 minute mark honestly. Your usefulness will not be apparent until late game. Despite all this, all I can say is I'm very excited! I expect more uses from the ADC slot than the jungler with a build emphasis on AS (botrk, PD/SS).