Talk:Heimerdinger/@comment-37.110.90.163-20121219175513/@comment-5052127-20121224030948

^ Are you serious? Let's see it's POSSIBLE that he hits 5 people with rockets... that's a TOTAL 2.75 AP ratio, plus 285 per target..

Nunu, does 1125 per target AND 2.5 ap ratio PER TARGET with his aoe... if he hits even 2 people, he already did MUCH more total damage than Heimer would if he managed to hit 5 people with rockets... on fact, even if he cancels it right away and only does half damage, he already is doing a lot more damage than heimer's rockets (525 damage and 1.25xAP per target). Ziggs can also do a LOT more total aoe damage, as can Annie, as can really any mage with any AOE. Heimer's best total damage even though it's AOE is still not near anyone else's, even if it manages to hit 5 people every time, any other mage will do more damage just hitting a couple of people, and over double his damage if they hit everyone.

The problem with rockets is that they are automatic damage and are basically unanswerable in lane. And the reason his turrets were made so much weaker than Zyra's is their permanent nature, which might not help him much in fights, but in lane they give him an extremely strong defense and pushing ability that they needed to nerf heavily to make him beatable early.