Talk:Syndra/@comment-25532677-20150102204505/@comment-5955640-20150114001034

Orianna's big carry moment is ulting in the middle of a teamfight correctly. Same with Ziggs but he also has a lot of extra things like good map pressure and nice pushing. So I would actually say that if the Ziggs is split pushing and sniping lots of people successfully with his ult he is carrying the match because it's above what the given role expects of you.

I don't see how it's crazy. Does everyone in a team carry or is there a single "carry" champion in a team or can there be a team without a carry or a team comprised of carries? This is why they removed that as a role in game. It's tangential. Carrying is sensible idea. Doing your job really well. Calling someone or some champion a carry is nebulous because what is carrying without the human endeavor that actually makes that happen?