Talk:Garen/@comment-81.51.86.82-20120814102309/@comment-4878039-20120814103016

Well Riven's just OP, and I will consider the Garen Q and E changes a nerf, UNLESS:

- Passive does not break from minion attacks (likely since minions aren't mentioned)

- Q can crit (confirmed, tho it's only the additional damage part)

- Spin now crits for its full damage