Talk:Udyr/@comment-5275191-20120711145227/@comment-15562896-20120713153855

He counters some top well (I heard he counters Irelia, he counters Lee as well, etc), but as jungler he's really amazing.

In the jungle though he lacks two things : a true gap closer that would make his ganks better, and a slow or something to keep his target cc'd after bear stun.

I'm not saying he should get those buffs, but when you play him you will get mad if the enemy team has any highly mobile (Nidalee, Fizz..) or hard kiter (Ashe) champion. His ganks are decent one not-too-mobile champions if you have redbuff, but without that you're kinda fucked.

Also in teamfights you're very easily kited.