Talk:Lucian/@comment-9775822-20151124064728/@comment-5319740-20160111124751

unless you picked a tank-slayer specific champion (kog, vayne, varus, etc.) your best hope is to itemize heavily against surivability.

juggernaut hurts a lot, which means you'd die before you can even take them down, as such, just get as tanky as possible.

against garen, specifically, just building mallet (as an ADC) or rylai (as a mage) will put him in place, his Q can only negate slow once upon activating it, leaving him vulnerable to further slows (and other CCs for that matter), a slowed down garen is easy to get away from.

and since we're on the section of lucian, i take death's dance as a rush item, helps a lot in negating some of garen's bursts, and also botrk in particular has a very good synergy with his innate passive, 6procs in a burst, plus botrk's active component is garen's worst match, stealing his movement speed.