Talk:Orianna/@comment-217.83.162.222-20130222121134/@comment-166.62.180.198-20130227014257

Zyra win in my opinion

Pre 6 Zyra got snare but Oriana only has a slow

Zyra got a no cost spell who provide vision and a 'safe spot' who dicourage ppl from being too agressive

Orianna need to spend mana to get vision and can't move too far from her ball after

Zyra passive is great to redeem yourself if you get caught or if you die protecting your ADC

other than that ...

Poke is probably equal in dmg, but Zyra can do it from a safer location and orianna passive cost nothing.

Ori as a slightly better initiation because she as more option. She make others champ stronger with that E/W/R.

Ori is also easier as a support since you won't q as much. If you play with a champ like grave/vayne and they're doing good, you really can't miss an EW or QWE. As long as your adc can survive the initial dmg you'll pretty much always discourage a chase.

But in the end Orianna need her mana and without it she can't Q which mean she as to be super carefull about how she use her spell. You can't afford to misplace the ball.