Talk:Nidalee/@comment-4221730-20130508053314/@comment-8506165-20130511041553

With Rabadon's, Seraph's and a Void Staff alone, Nidalee can get up to ~420 AP and ignore a massive chunk of MR. This is not "massively fed", this is three completed items with a combined cost of about 8k gold, and I've seen people go 0/6 and earn that much. This means that every 6 seconds, I have to dodge a 1250 damage nuke (at max range, at middling range it might be 800-1000, hooray) that eats through almost half my MR with a typical AP rune/mastery set. This same Nidalee who is, quote, "useless in team fights" will be healing her allies for almost 500 damage a pop and buffing their attack speed by 60% in between throwing these nukes, and if she can get a well-positioned Bushwhack in then she can also shred Armor and MR. You're already rivalling the utility of, say, Nunu, who is reduced to a single-target spell with a slow and an attack speed buff if his ult is on cooldown. But we're straying from my point, and ignoring various other advantages Nidalee has because you're acting like if you can deal with Javelin Toss she has absolutely nothing to offer.

But again, I'm not opposed to Nidalee's other skills being changed/buffed if it means Javelin Toss gets the nerf it frankly deserves. It is not the only pure damage skillshot in the game (c.f. Ahri, Karthus, Gragas, et al.). It is the only pure damage skillshot that can achieve such a ridiculous level of damage, from the range it can be used at. Which again is part of the problem - do you chase one of the most highly mobile characters in the game after your tanky initiator has charged in, while letting her team whale on you? No, so she backs off and keeps chucking spears in, which means that in a teamfight she can continue to do damage from complete safety, which totally makes the teamfight 4v5, right? An APC is meant to be at the front lines soaking up damage after all. Or was that the tank? I forget.

I'm sympathetic to the view she needs some kind of rework, but denying that an ability that can put the ADC out of a fight with one lucky shot doesn't have some kind of balance issue is just ridiculous to me.