Talk:Nautilus/@comment-108.210.200.43-20120216044849/@comment-86.1.71.195-20120216054733

Maokai is stronger as a jungler, mainly because Maokai has an extremely safe and extremely easy jungle with the blue. Heck, I can even get my wraiths, do blue, wolves, and wraiths again and give myself level 3 when the midlane is still level 2, and get an easy gank off this way. After the first gank, you go back and do golems, hit level 4, and take red without so much as a hiccup. Nautilus can do similar, in that gank at level 3, but the main problem with Naut is that he cant get a fast level 3; he needs to do a full clear to get his 3, considering he cant or will be extremely low doing either red OR golems at level 2, even with a strong pull. Or rather, he can get both, and have no hp left for ganking.

However, I feel that Maokai's only strength once the game gets late, is that he has a damage reducing ult. Initiating with Maokai is dangerous, to say the least. He also only has a root; his knockback is soft cc at best, though its good vs channelling heroes like malz and nunu and katarina. He cannot get into the fight to do DAMAGE, whereas Nautilus can. He also has a soft escape mechanism, though I havent been able to use it well. Its also a strong initator, puts people out of position, and doubles up storngly with his ult to put two people out of action for short periods of time at once. Maokai can only target 1.

TLDR; Maokai = better for early ganking in premade games, Naut = better lategame for disruption and damage output in solo. Maokai is generally better in a premade 5, and in that case take Sejuani over Nautilus. Nautilus > Sejuani and Maokai in solo-Q.