Talk:Udyr/@comment-9686801-20140117151002/@comment-4434378-20140121043750

Lack of Initiation or big Teamfight ulti kinda set him back in teamfights.

What he does late game all comes down to his build. Tiger with some damage will wreck squishies that he can get to, and Pheonix can output okay damage with just a wits. And he can act as a decent meat tank with Turtle and the constant bear stuns (kiting isn't so big an issue if you focus on peeling for your own team)