Talk:Twisted Fate/@comment-4501291-20111004175100

He's a crap champ, needs to be reworked. Anyone who says "well you're not playing right or doing X wrong blah blah" fails to realize that these arguments fail in the face of the fact that literally every other ranged champion is better than TF. If you do good on TF then you'd do twice as good with someone else.

1. Passive is crap. - 1 dragon kill will net more gold for your team than this will all game - if TF had no passive at all, nobody would notice. Not even TF

2. Range too short

3. Too squishy

4. Wild Cards is a crap skill ATM - mana cost is to high for how usless this is

5. Pick a Card is needlessly stupid - should be able to manaully cycle cards with W instead of having to quick finger it.

6. Stacked Deck is considerably weaker than other similar abilities. - Teemo poisoned darts are better - Master Yi's passive is better than this ability.

7. Destiny is crap - No longer global but without actually buffing the rest of his skills. - Might as well play Nocturne because the range isn't much different. Not only is Nocturne ultimate better now, but TF might as well be a melee character with his low range.