Talk:Jax/@comment-71.231.244.113-20120130030430/@comment-117.207.240.247-20120131080116

That doesn't mean it will take me another 200 games to learn him does it? I've played him plenty of times already. And I've played all champs in the game. So yea I can compare him to most champs out there, and he has no sustain, bad health regen, and if he uses his Q to initiate, no escape mechanism.

Check any other melee champion. They will have either health on hit effects or lifesteal, or armor/mres boost or some stealth. Riven has Q for escape, W for reliable stun, E for dash/shield scaling off AD. Xin has his passive health gain on hit, Q knockup, E dash slow, ult bonus. WW has his passive and W as well as mov speed bonus and W aura, and his ult. Wukong has decieve, passive, dash, and ult. Shaco has deceive, boxes and ult as well as slow. Yorick has his ghouls, voli has his passive knockup. Udyr has turtle bear. Trynd has Q and W and E escape, Trundle has passive, W, E and ult, Taric has heal, Talon has stealth, Skarner has heal and ult as well as shield and def boost and so on and so on. So yea, Jax is weak. Lets see how good he is after these changes. With a better stun.