Talk:Elise/@comment-159.205.106.184-20130118142728/@comment-5263329-20130119232849

The simularities end at mages. Leblanc is a squishy uber-high-damage single-target mage assassin that (how about I reword it) contributes barely anything to teamfights when her ultimate is down. Elise is a tanky AP mage offtank that provides constant DPS and average burst in a teamfight. Apples and oranges are both fruit, but they are very different kinds of fruit.

Elise harass is strong because its on a low cd, has a low cost and does good damage. You could argue the same for vlad, veigar, viktor etc however out of those 3 only vlad is tanky/sustained enough to still come out of a trade well. I've played all of those champions enough to know the detailed mechanics of each Q.

You're wrong; apart from sorceror's shoes, no mage that I know of except elise and perhaps leblanc buys more MrPen than that early. Your exaggeration amuses me.

I wasn't crying that her Q harass is OP, I was stating that its difficult to counter precisely because I play elise enough to know this. I don't want elise nerfed any more than you do but the way you're treating other people is obnoxious as hell. Your attitude is OMFG BUY MR COUNTER AP OMFG EVERY MAGE BUYS MRPEN I JUST INVALIDATED MY OWN ARGUMENT OMFG I REFUSE TO LISTEN TO EVERYONE ELSE EXCEPT MYSELF I AM PRO EVERYONE ELSE ARE NOOBS etcetc.

That anon stated exactly the same thing that I did, 'Elise harass is strong.' You took it to mean OMG ELISE HARASS OP PLZ RIOT NERF NOW BOO HOO. You smart dude. You very smart.