Talk:Fizz/@comment-4530717-20130520173017/@comment-5729466-20130528162743

Both of you guys provide answers but no reasons, nor do you justify "why" this is correct.

Why is Fizz strong? His ability to kill or nearly kill an opponent with ease because of his untargetability and his ultimate. This makes his roam and teamfight potential extremely scary. With correct positioning in a teamfight and the ability to kill mid-lane as an assasin is extremely potent (as Oscillation points out), you can do so much damage with a Q in late game. However, problems include the hard cc or a QSS to remove his ultimate during the late game. BUT because of Fizz's snowball potential, usually the opponents cannot respond to his early-mid game prowess. [This is also why he's a pick against TF because of his burst potential and inability to be stunned].

BUT, unfortunately, he does have a bad laning potential IN COMPARISON to others. You guys talk about his godlike lvl 6 or whatever. He has strong burst, but with some dorans rings/chalice/health the opponents won't die. But as a matter of fact: he's melee. In mid where ranged champions or bruisers that are stronger in melee are dominant, he gets easily harrassed lvls 1-6. Even before then, it's difficult to counterharrass because of his extremely high mana costs. 2 rotations of his spells will wipe out his mana bar, and if the opponents play it right, they will almost always come out on top. Hhe has advantages to being able to avoid skillshots, but he's weak to range and constant dps (orianna, ahri, annie). If you have to use your E to gapclose, that's a majority of damage lost. To be fair, Fizz will be able to kill with items, and if you do beat your opponent early, then the lane for the opponent is practically lost. But to do that requires skill and stupidity of your opponents. Ex: Karthus farms from years away to play safe (requires you to use E to gapclose/hit a long range ulti which can be dodged), Malz constant E harrass, Diana just as strong in melee, the list goes on.

Fizz has both cons and positives, but if you play it right, he becomes extremely potent. I'd say he has more teamfight presence than leblanc, and an easier laning phase if you're skilled.

Varus on the other hand is strong. I have no idea why he'd be weak even in low elo. A 2 second immobilize, an slow duration so you can't kite, and long auto range make it easy to abuse in low elo. Moreover, with the inability to focus there, varus has an easier time living.

Before you list out points, please back them up like this.