Talk:Udyr/@comment-5077844-20150320210918/@comment-25855686-20150412060102

@akuma

udyr has scaling damage in q proc (160%ad is a thing) plus the permanent 10% bonus ad on every autoattack

udyr for sure has mana problems early game but if hew unload all his mana on one target that target will probably be dead way before udyr mana is depleted, ofc if you catch him oom you will win, but isnt the same for every champion (beside manaless)

for the steroid udyr actually has the stronger AS steroid among the 3, 70% from q and 10-30% from passive versus vi 50% (maxed last anyway and starting after the third hit) and xin 80%

vi win the cc race having 2 knockup but i cant consider xin having better cc then udyr given xin apply his cc after 3 hit while udyr is on the first slap, plus has a way shorter cooldown

as for burst surely vi win the first 3 second damage wise, due to the instant apply q e w, but after the proc of udyr is fully used (it apply over 2 second) he come largely on top as he "gain" 10% ad on the race for every auto. I repeat on equal footing ofc.