Talk:Garen the Night of Demacia/@comment-190.50.214.189-20111008012458

Garen is still a good pick even at very high Elo, hes a very good solo top unless counterpicked by a handfull of champions. Mid game he is a tank/assassin, extremly hard to kill and still can kill any squishy carry in 3 seconds, his lack of a dash is complemented by flash,. Late game if properly build (mercs ghostblad warmogs atmas IE FoN) he is very tanky and still can do tons of damage, can still anty carry most carrys unless CCed. Stats with full build: 3600HP 150 armor 180mr 300 damage 45 armor pen 60 crit chance. Garens damage over 3 secs Q+E:      500 from Q + 1400-2300  from E depending on crits. Flash onto any Cait, vayne, ashe, brand, cassiopia, orianna and deliver them this treat + R before silence even wears off and come tell me that late game Garen has no damage.

Yes this combo can be interrupted by CC but everybody in E AoE range will take that damage Garen being feared, stunned, slowed or rooted, and you can always give them a second go 7 secs after the first one. Surely his 3500 hp and 150/180 resistances dont make him THAT hard to kill but if they focus a Garen and your team loses the fight, your allies are doing something wrong. Garens damage is only slightly weak after lvl 14-15 until he can finish the warmogs + atmas, but if Garen goes solo top and doesnt get counterpicked Garen should have no problem farm if not feed on the opponent. Now if you build him like most garens I see, full tank, then yes you are a useless meat sack.