Talk:Veigar/@comment-4006117-20110820234117/@comment-3358335-20110825214509

First off, what you describe is not one shotting. You describe DFG, W, E, Q, R that is 5 shotting. And if Veigar has been able to farm 1000 ap (which means that if you are against him you are doing something wrong. . .It even means that if you ARE him you have let the game go on too long.) he should be able to take out any single player instantly.

But there are lots of champs can counter a fed Veigar even if they are not fed: Akali, Poppy, Amumu, Gangplank, Xin. Spell shield champs like Nocturne and Sivir. Teams that load up on BV can devastate him if nobody on him can spam the bubbles off. DPS champs that can leap over his stun, like Corki or Ezreal.

Yeah, if you are going to roll around noobstomping then he can become nearly invincible. But there are lots of people that consider him nearly impossible to play at high levels, and I find him difficult to play outside of arranged teams. (And I have been playing him for months and months, and months)