Talk:Lee Sin/@comment-9705522-20130802203424/@comment-10590654-20130806004201

Yeah blue ez now is rush tear and Iceborn and wait for Muramana at 30 mins and rape everyone, his late though is nothing like Vayne level or even Varus although his safety does make him ok late as he needs little peel, but i agree he sucks early unless you rush BT like doublelift.

About Lee I wasn't precise, his damage and tankiness suck late. Mostly the damage because you can't apply it easily onto the squishies because you won't be able to engage them easily in a teamfight, his tankiness cuz he has no real defense steroid and his shield is used for dashing not defending but it's still good.

When I say he's mediocre late, I mean he is no Vi, she can kill stuff late game, Lee can't really. If he builds damage he dies too much and if he goes tank he doesn't kill guys. That's his trade off, early-mid borderline OP (ok totally OP), but late and in teamfights hes mediocre at best.

From today's style he becomes slow, shield and kick bot, his execute sucks unless he builds last whisper/BC and it's only good for the killing blow but you generally avoid that when you go tanky lee.

TBH I admit he will wreck solo queue because of people not peeling for carries and wanting to surrender at 20 but in competitive if they drag it to late game he becomes less relevant than jarvan or Vi. That's my opinion but I may be wrong but I do agree his mid game maybe should be pushed back a bit by reducing his ult scale or base damage for example.

TLDR: Lee is op in korea cuz of early dominance espeecially, here i'm not sure about competitive but he fucks everyone in YOLO Q cuz of the discord he sows by getting fed.