Talk:Shen/@comment-177.131.198.208-20121201201823/@comment-62.1.167.177-20121202200800

Lol, guys. Shen's Q is a poke by definition. It's his ranged target damage-spell. It doesn't "hardly do any damage" if Shen has e.g. 500 AP.

It doesn't matter what champions usually build/go as far as definitions are concerned.

Now, Shen's main form of harrasing IS taunt+Ki, because that combo is potentionaly a greater build-up of threat for Shen than the swirling tanto, and Shen is a natural tank who can survive trades during harrasment easily.

Again, definitions.

Pantheon's and GP's pokes are purely physical, and require Armor to mitigate, while Shen's poke is magical damage and bypasses armor (the most basic defense is armor, magic resistance is specialized to counter champions only). Shen's poke is designed to force enemies into building Magic Resistance of suffer a cheap loss of health due to ignoring their armor.

Pantheon's and GP's pokes are designed to TEMPT enemies into increasing their Armor, which is needed every game due to minions/monsters/turrets dealing Physical damage anyways. Their pokes are also Critical based and are designed to HIDE true numbers from their H.U.D.s; It's very difficult to discern of even predict when you take more damage than the norm with these champions pokes. They are ultimately designed to finish you off.

Shen's poke, on the other hand, is designed to keep him going and protect him from being bullied from ranged trades. It's largely defensive in its use and offensive only in defensive terms (I hurt you if you try to hurt me, and I'm a tank so you'll hurt me less).

Shen's Q is only usuable in a defensive frame, and that's just logical, since his taunt+Ki strike are his primary offenses: When Shen E+Ki(+W) you, what he's doing is "attacking you"; whereas, when he Q you, what he's doing is "tempting"/"stinging" you.

Pantheon and GP, again: When these quys Q you, they are attacking you, same when they R you, same when they E you and pretty much that's what they are designed to do. There is no tempting involved (When Pantheon spearshots you or GP pistols you, he is not "tempting" you to go anywhere near him) and they itemize to scale these pokes as offences; While, Shen itemizes to scale his bubbles and his tankiness, which synergizes with his Q as a bonus and not as a main tactic.