Talk:Elise/@comment-178.166.24.118-20130324194912/@comment-67.161.177.58-20130327195802

@ 178.166.24.118 I have been playing Elise for about two/three months now. She is very hard to master. She has a difficulty rating of 80 for a reason. You must have a very different perception of what difficult is. The reason she's so hard to master is because she's both ranged and melee and the plays style change is pretty significant. I have played enough to know that she is exteremely reliant on early game kills, and that she is weak to being bullied. I was forced to mid lane with her against a Lux and I was out poked and bullied out all laning phase. So yes, she can be bullied not just the 'all in and hope you get away with it.' I have no idea why but every single game I have watched and played, I am the only one who builds tanky at all on her. Even ranked games that I watch. I don't know why. I don't even actually build that tanky on her either. Riven is so easy for a good Elise to deal with it's not even funny at least in my experience. It could have been I was facing trash Riven players. I don't know. I've never had a problem beating Riven soundly though. Keep her at a distance until you wittle her down to about half health then stun her and go in for the kill. Easy. The reason Elise is banned so much is because, what do you know, she counters the meta with her Q scaling off of current/missing health. My god I feel like people never learn with how much I say this on this page. Health is useless against her, and all people need to do is *gasp* BE FLEXIBLE WITH THEIR BUILDS AND NOT FOLLOW THE META LIKE BLIND SHEEP! Maybe then it wouldn't feel like a slaughter if you go up against an Elise. And again, I hate repeating myself so much. I have been saying that for ages on this page. Basically, there's three things you can do to beat her 1. get her shut down early game 2. have a higher DPS than she does and 3. gang up on her when she's alone.