Talk:Vi/@comment-1853032-20140224092939/@comment-4068613-20140320142921

Yes, she can telegraph from 1550 range as well.

Not only did you arbitrarily assume Vi has superior ult conditions, you came to the conclusion that 1.5 on two targets is necessarily worse than 1.25 on one and .25 on three, a claim that remains unsupported.

The claim that 26% isn't important is unsupported. Claim that ADC is the only one that cares about attack speed slow is unsupported. Assumption that Vi killed the target is being contested. Vi's AOE requires exotic positioning for optimal effect. Claim that armor is irrelevant to everyone but ADC is unsupported.

If Vi's ult is being used to engage or counterengage, it is likely that a BV will still be up by this point. You assume too many stats and items to be obtained consistently. If you think that logic results in the conclusion that not leaving base is a viable option, you didn't understand the logic.

Barrier as counterplay.

You should have specified high plat/low diamond (a strangely specific range) when you made the claim that it's a guaranteed kill every time. I won't contest the fact that it's usually a kill in that specific ranking range.

One stun or displacement effect is all it takes to give a carry the breathing room they need to be involved in the fight. Not utterly backbreaking to a teamfight, especially since one of the enemies just blew all their cooldowns on a target that may not have died.

Many escapes have ranges longer than 300 units. Her dash is easily blockable by allies, and can be dodged. Assumed Vi got off her full combo despite being surrounded by enemies liable to hinder her. Assuming a full build for Vi. (carries with the right build reliably run through that much health without too much of a problem)