Talk:Lee Sin/@comment-5763148-20131114013707/@comment-9705522-20131117170432

hard to master? zed, orianna, syndra. champions with complex mechanics and something called micro. oh and draven. although, that is actually mostly due to the fact that his positioning is harder. other than that, who is really hard. ap kogmaw to some degree. anivia. new donger. and those are about all champion i can think of that are at least somewhat hard to master. and no. what i mean is they can pull off the insec kick. no matter the positioning. i mean the real deal. the one that happens within a second. its not hard, really. hit q, follow up, drop ward, hit w, hit ult. real difficult. only thing you need to be able to do, is moving your cursor and having timing. sadly, those apply to about all champions that use skillshots. lee sin is definitily NOT skill reliant. good lee, bad lee, ever saw them in comparision? the difference is there, but its about the same difference between a good rumble and a bad rumble. take a look at a good zed and a bad zed. the difference isnt just there, the difference is so huge it feels like they are 2 completely different champions. and no, not really. silver 2-1, yeah, those are mostly (still only mostly) bad decision making. bronze and silver 5-3? they have no teamwork, are bad at csing, and are bad all around mechanically. now granted, you need to have played in higher leagues to actually know what exactly is the difference between the leagues, and i can tell you havent, so yeah. and he isnt hard. i never said he is the easiest. but he is easy. skillshots? dont matter as much, if the skillshot is easy to hit. like lees q, fast, low cast time, good hitbox. or his ult. let me ask you something. do you consider ez hard? or alistar? no, you dont. do you consider katarina hard? ... ok, not the best example, mastering her isnt as easy as playing her, but you get the idea. and no. lee is always strong. the difference between bad and godly players is little. and im not asking for a nerf, because im smart enough to see the real problem. nerfing him wont help. it will either still make him one of the best champions, or make him underplayed. the problem is his kit. rework it. remove some mobility and utility. change him from "master of all trades that is also the most mobile champion" to "master of some trades with good mobility that does have weaknesses".