Talk:Maokai/@comment-7709681-20170420000538/@comment-30517000-20170420184520

Agreed. I wouldn't mind the ult change as long as they kept his kit useful and move the defensive steroid to another skill. Now Maokai has 3 unreliable skills (E for obvious reasons, Q because its dependant on W and W because of the big nerfs) and a worse ultimate with an overall weaker sustain on the passive.

I insist tho, it feels like Riot will be buffing him up before it goes to live. Just by the looks of it Maokai seems like an all-around bad pick.

It is still true that tanks in general are outdated, so the update was kind of hard to pull off without major reworks. Off the top of my head Malphite, Rammus, Gragas, Tahm Kench and Cho'gath all feel like better options but they also need a bigscope rework except maybe for Tahm. Also its been quite some time since Riot made out a true tank, the last one made being Tahm Kench (which is technically oriented to be a support) and Galio as the last rework. I never got why they left the class so behind, mostly because I love playing them.