Talk:Zilean/@comment-8921599-20141012120638/@comment-8921599-20141021022241

You obviously didn't read because I said the SECOND bomb takes 4 seconds to go off, I know if you Q W Q you get the first bomb damage instantly. Im going off the good "viable" (of course comes from opinion, but don't be to anal about this) mid laners, the only melee mids these days are Yasuo, Zed, Fizz and Talon (probably not after nerfs) which all destroy him. Comparing Zileans damage to any of the good popular mids is crazy, he has one dmaging ability compared to the average 3-4 from others, he just can't compete.

If you pick Zilean mid you are putting all your eggs in one basket, if your adc isn't a hypercarry and does well your damage will be miniscule.

Greyshadow I have played vs ALOT of zileans because of worlds and people being derps and jumping on the bandwagon (He only really works as a mid laner if you have a really pro adc that you know can carry you). Everytime I have destroyed them because Zileans do no damage and are Squishy as hell, there ults barely ever save them because they are stuck there for 2 seconds while me and/or my teammates circle him and just kill again as easy as the first.

Also you really took my message out of context, didn't say Zilean mid was terrible just that you are giving up a whole mid laner to get a second support with a little bit more damage and life saving than if he was in bot lane. If you play Zilean mid in soloque then im glad and hope I fight you