Talk:Madred's Bloodrazor/@comment-122.151.225.194-20121216070407/@comment-5.83.71.124-20121217220605

The thing is, unless you were using an on-hit build (Thus getting some Mpen by runes and masteries), you didn't built this for the on-hit, but for the stats, which were great on bruisers, whom tend to build both offensiveness and defenses.

Biggest problem this item had was that it should've stayed as a jungle item: Reducing it's price at the cost of nerfing the stats a bit, and exchanging the damage cap from players to monsters would've made pretty impressive lategame jungle strategies, like dealing a hell of damage with each hit on Baron.

That and the fact that most noobs tried to rush it when FoN was cheaper to rush. Plus, without Mpen, even if you were aiming it at a tank, it was pretty much useless.

But the fun facts don't stop there. As much as this item could've coexisted with the BotRK (Which, although should have a better effect due the fact that it now stacks with ArPen, its nothing but a shadow of this item), removing the FoN was an even more stupid choice. Madred's thread has not found it's heir into BotRK, but rather into Liandry's, which is far more effective due the fact that it's users stack Mpen, FoN is nowhere to be found and magic resist has been nerfed, and the defense-penetration mechanism has been leaned towards improving damage, rather than improving defense.

Stupid choices, Riot.