Talk:Zilean/@comment-5077844-20141029214537/@comment-4748826-20141103071855

Doble bomb at max rank means 260 mana, if you actually play zilean you would know that he is only strong mid game, early game he can't afford a double bomb as he goes oom instantly, lategame double bomb is good, but he is squishy as fuck and the double bomb requires him to get into close range, if you get hitted by a single hard CC (ahri charm, malph ult, etc) you explode, and so, your ult only helps you to compensate for your squishiness. So early game= he can't afford it, lategame = he can't afford it (unless his team is already winning). Basically he has the power to carry... of a potatoe.

On paper? Yes, Zilean is amazing, but look around, I don't see a barriage of Zilean players stomping around. Compare him to Lux/ Xerath, both champs that can 100-0% from afar without a single risk, plus they have hard CC and you realize that lategame the skillshot paradigm doesn't really matter that much, Lux will eventually hit her combo, same with Xerath. Yeah 1,8 AP ratio is cool... but that's it, he doesn't have more damage than that. Karthus can easly put 1.8 AP ratio with his Q alone in 3 seconds, with only Cassiopeia's E you can put 2.0 AP ratio in 2 seconds. etc etc.

He needs a rework? Meh, imo no, but he is going to get one eventually. All I hope is his R and W gets intact ( I doubt his W remains as they will say something like "We can make cool abilities if he can double cast them just like that DURP").

But please, don't say targeted bust makes him OP... look at Veigar/ Akali / Fiora