Talk:Ryze/@comment-87.253.47.107-20121126134851/@comment-129.2.129.223-20121130233631

just a note ...

the total cast times alone of this ^ combo is 2.5 sec. without cooldowns or player delay because the cast times of q,e,and w are all .25 sec.

now, 40% cdr brings w and e to 8.6 seconds. first q (.25 secs) then e (.25 sec) then q (1.35 secs) ... why ? because max cdr brings the q to 2.1 sec. plus ryzes passive puts it at 1.1 w/o the delay.

now w then r

r is instant so no worries about that

w (.25 sec) then q (same problem so 1.35) then r then back to q (another 1.35)

well w/o human delay we're up to 4.8 sec

now back to e (.25) then q ( 1.35) then w (.25) and finally back to q another (1.35)

totaling approx. 8 sec w/o delay

I also could've just added 2.1 sec. to your numbers since you didn't accout for them. while 6 is close, not accounting for human error or delay makes it kind of a stretch. 8 sec. is still really fast, but not 6.