Talk:Veigar/@comment-5284325-20130105164459/@comment-5225189-20130105222501

It would be too op... 2.5 seconds is really long, usually you max it last so you see its effects only in late game (still devastating). With 35 Tenacity it's already 1.6 seconds, with 61 Tenacity (Irelia & Trundle) it's only 1 second stun... yeah, you can counter his stun with banshee/quicksilver or this new item for bruisers, but my point is, that 2.5 second stun on 1st lv is still op, when nobody have Tenacity at this time.