Talk:Sejuani/@comment-202.7.185.232-20120529083448/@comment-202.7.185.232-20120530002819

Oh, I know. But then there's other things to consider, like the fact that a half decent ashe simply moves back from a teamfight, which has a twofold effect. First, it gives you the extra range to initiate more powerfully with ECA, and secondly, if the enemy team sees you retreat, unorganised players may choose to initiate on the "5v4", only to be counterinitiated by her arrow while they've put themselves in a bad position.

I understand that 60-80% of the time, Sej's is better. On the other hand, I'd rather have ECA coming out every 60 seconds on a character that is one of the better carries for organised teams, and have a tank that does a better job than Sej overall (Sej is only barely useful precisely BECAUSE of her ult, which as everyone has pointed out, has an enormous CD unless built with CD reduction).