Talk:Heimerdinger/@comment-12049719-20131105055652/@comment-16249637-20131105231352

I also didn't ever feel like the ult turret was optimal until I accidentally planted one (mis-clicked frantically trying to escape) as I was being ganked by three enemies 3v1. between that, my previously placed turrets, and my frantic W/E in their direction as I fled, I got a double kill and nearly finished off the third. They thought they could burst me being 3V1 at full health. Had I successfully landed the RW (my intention) I may have gotten one of them, and had I landed RE, I may have simply escaped. But neither would have given me a triple (which I could have had if I had realized how powerful I was)

Since then I found that the RQ works well if you are in the middle of a grouped fight or sometimes when being chased, basically whenever multiple enemies are in a position where they are two focussed on something else to get out of range, especially if they chase you into range and you plant the turret and then hit Zhonyas. Doesn't always happen but it can be vey powerful as after one target dies it keeps shooting and the remaining damage is not wasted.

I still use RW more than the other two, though.