Talk:Orianna/@comment-96.248.250.80-20120324154108/@comment-209.147.187.50-20120326183403

xynon, have you looked at her scalings and base damages? her bases are HORRIBLE compared to other mages, the highest base damages you can get across her abilities at level 6 are 430 magic damage from your q-w-e-r. Even if you do that as true damage it's still only ~ or less than half of most ap's health, from using ALL YOUR ABILITIES. If you have triple dorans, and ap quints for level 6 ap just as an example your ap scalings will give you 126 more magic damage, still not nearly enough to actually burst anyone down. If we take a character such as Ahri however, she has 620 base damage at level 6 and the same items would give 160 more damage.

Her total ap scaling if you hit all your skills with your q hitting the enemy as the first target is only 2.1. In order to use her passive you have to be at a lower range than ryze and you don't build nearly as tanky as him. If you rush an archangels your going to get ripped apart by competent players.

Don't get me wrong I love orianna's kit...but she needs some changes...her damage is NOT good, she needs to be incredibly close for her passive, and her utility isn't astounding, not with characters like kennen/cass/morg who can stun the entire enemy team.