Talk:Elise/@comment-4717259-20121124094656/@comment-4717259-20121125163144

First of all, Elise is not a one-role champion, she fits mid, top and jungle well. You can't max Q as jungle Elise and expect not to die in the jungle, it means you haven't even played her as a jungler. If you max Q, you build nothing but a mana starving single target nuke, which you probably use to take kills and feed yourself. As non AP Elise maxing Q will result in a failure, not giving you any damage.

Rylai's, as you said, is a great item on Elise. If you cast your W smart enough, no one will ever dodge it.