Thread:Odaswifteye/@comment-3017217-20141229174218/@comment-5955640-20141230021203

Ntoulinho wrote: Named item effects do not stack across any items barring elixir of Iron!!! and Elixir of Iron does not grant any health

The max without any Champion ability is 59% Tenacity

35% from items(1 of them)& Elixir(the exception to the rule) and 15% masteries.

You claimed that your benefit is greater.

5601 then

4978 now( if you insist on taking Elixir of Iron I thought it was a typo earlier forgive me).

Is 623 Health when you have Spirit Visage Guardian Angel and what not worth less than your Movement Speed boost???

I enjoy the new season 5 jungle but you cannot refuse Kristiyan.donchev's claim that the removal of Golem hit Volibear hard.

I do not complain simply because it hit others even harder

I totally can refuse. If it hit others harder and seeing as some items were changed, Health and health regen were changed, base health was introduced, The jungle was changed, and the jungle items were changed. The effect it has on everyone has a relative effect that resets the sort of effectiveness a champ might have gotten from one stat being changed more directly from a nerf or the like.

I mean it's one thing if you were like "Volibear isn't doing as well as Rek'Sai" or something due to how his stats were changed by almost everything about his role being changed but a generally weaker Volibear? I don't follow in that sentiment unless there is some really hard data that says that in comparison to other tank Junglers (Nautlius, Amumu, Maokai (people still jungle as him right?), Nunu, and Sejuani. Volibear is the least effective our ties in ineffectiveness and this is directly related to the loss in stats from the change in items.