Talk:Kai'Sa/@comment-3130226-20180806061515/@comment-31982182-20180821134310

Esooa Runaan's isn't a bad item. But I think David's point was that Runaan's is Really Bad second after an attack speed item or in a hybrid or AP build, especially when it won't get you through the early/mid game. You're missing out on power spikes that you could be having. It can have a place in an AD build, but usually 3rd or 4th item. But you don't want to build Rageblade into Runaan's, ever. In any game.

Going two attack speed items means you're missing out on so much damage. You're attacking fast but you have nothing behind that attack speed second. You need either AD or  AP for your passive.

The reason that Runaan's can work is if you're building Kai'sa as a traditional ADC. I.E. All attack speed/damage, and maybe one AP item like Zhonyas if you really need it. It works best in a 100% AD build not in a hybrid build even.

If you're building AP you're wasting gold on the Runaan's passive. AP Kai'sa is a single target eraser. Think of it like Vayne, even though her passive can't be on multiple people it's kind of the idea that you don't want/need it to you. AP Kai'sa works best at deleting a single target very quickly and then moving to the second. Not deleting two/three at a time like a Jinx/Sivir/Crit champ. You'd be better off with no zeal item, or if you insist on having one really any other zeal item.

I love the item itself, so not building it on AP/Hybrid Kai'sa makes me feel like I'm missing out. But really it only adds wave clear. It doesn't increase your damage against enemy champs much, especially compared to other items that you could have in your build instead.

TL;DR: Runaan's is fine third or fourth in a purely AD build, but no place in a hybrid/AP build. But you need something before your second attack speed item in both cases.

I.e.

AP: Rageblade into Nashors

AD: Rageblade into Storm Razor