Talk:Renekton/@comment-5009341-20120418075635/@comment-62.150.205.28-20120422013030

They have armor seals? You have Armor Pen marks, quints and masteries (which render them useless early on).

They get Wriggles and Tabi? You either get Brutalizer and nullfy their effect or go for some more beef and laugh at the 0 damage they deal.

The heal is ok but it's not your only source of sustain. You have lifesteal from masteries (if you go 21 offense) and Doran's Blades (if you don't build 2-3 early game then no wonder you think he's weak). Worst-case scenario you get a wriggles against somebody who does more physical damage than you do.

People need to stop comparing him to what he was before release. There's a reason he was changed on release. Get over it.

And finally, IP doesn't mean shit when it comes to a champion's strength, difficulty or anything else for that matter. Riot bases their pricing over demand. If it looks like a champ is getting a lot of recognition (Nocturne before his release) then they will make him worth 6300, if not (Karma) they make em cheap. Simple as that. Saying they should make a champion worth more cuz he's a super OP pubstomper is like saying they should make armor seals work 4k a pop because everybody uses them.