Talk:Jarvan IV/@comment-4499945-20130206222239/@comment-98.116.37.10-20130207021949

Jarvan vs Elise top is near impossible to win, not because of Jarvan but because of Elise's Q and combos. Staying around your minions is useless against her if you dont try to trade back using spear and flag, but even this is dangerous once she gets q&w in spider form since she can execute you if she used early harass.

Your best chance is to try and sustain against her with hp, sustain and mr, but if the Elise is half decent, even this would only reduce her threat minimally. The other option is to go "all in" early by pushing fast and hitting faster levels so that you can combo her before she gets any extra skills.