Talk:Graves/@comment-9775822-20150919193228/@comment-5955640-20151023163030

In order for Urgot to maintain his harass he has to land E so Q and heat seek other wise he doesn't touch them in the slightest. On top of this he's 425 range. At this point the only Marksman in the game that doesn't outrange him is. Gnar. At level one. After level one every marksman outranges Urgot in auto attacks alone.

Being able to make safe trades in poke from a minion wave barring that you dodge E which is on a cooldown of 15-11 seconds is more than doable. Not only that the solution to Urgot's harass is a sustain champ of any kind. Even Taric (espesically Taric given his Armor Aura). While most marksmen will return to lane with a damage item Urgot will return with a tear. If he doesn't he runs out of mana and gets pushed out of lane. But with Tear he doesn't run out of mana. But he gets out sustained and out damaged.

Grabber supports force him out of lane permantly because Urgot has no real recourse for getting grabbed and is completely at the mercy of a support to save him and only the best peel support can do it. Urgot has a terrible ult and lacks a distinct use for kill efficiency.

Urgot needs old Soraka. With old Soraka he can put off buying Tear and maybe get Vampiric Scepter or a Doran's Blade. Now Urgot has no support that can really support him. Poke supports aren't well protected by him because he has no range. Sustain supports can't fill up his mana, and grabber supports can't give him a kill on a target because he has no palpable damage.

Urgot is a Steamroll victim waiting to happen.