Talk:Garen/@comment-26203093-20150820123110/@comment-26910027-20150820172425

What? 1.8 seconds CD is wrong. 9*.6=5.4 seconds w/ max CDR. You can reduce it imaginationarily (because E is capped at a minimum of 1 second) by 3 seconds maximum applying 0 ticks of damage. That is 2.4 seconds. Lets assume you apply 1 second of damage which is 3.33 or 3 ticks of damage. Your CD is now 2.4 seconds because 1 second has passed reducing the CD by 1 + the 2 seconds you refunded. Lets also try applying 2 seconds of damage; your CD is still 2.4 seconds because you refunded 1 second, and 2 seconds have passed. Remember, we're looking at the CD, not the total time that has passed before you can use the ability again.

At level 18 with raw stats of 134 damage, you do less damage mashing all those keys then just spinning (and remember that you also have to stop moving to auto attack).

Level 18:

Spin2Win = 10*30+0.38*134*10 = 809.2 damage

Spin 1 Second w/ 2 Autos = 3*30+0.38*134*3+134*2 = 521.02 damage

Spin 2 seconds w/ 1 Autos = 6*30+0.38*134*6+134 = 619.52 damage

As you can see, even with 3 autoattacks, you'll still be doing less damage then spinning and you'll likely be further kited because of your inability to spin2win. Also note that because of your 3 second time window, you will only be able to cast Q once, so it isn't factored into our examples.