Talk:Malphite/@comment-77.100.244.225-20121004164147/@comment-62.226.62.23-20121009163927

I don't know about others but for me, against most normal enemies it works to not level W for most of the lanephase and wait for the enemy to push the lane then try to freeze the waves just before turretrange. when she jumps you, step back, hit E and throw in a Q while she backs up, suffering from your damage and an aditional turret shot. After that, try to wait for your innate to come back up.

Later, when you got a sunfire cape or something similar you should be quite good to go when it comes to outtrading her, in no need of tower assistance anymore.

Also, measure your mana and throw out a Q now and then (if you level it first) but be careful to be able to have a full combo available in case of a friendly gank.