Talk:Vladimir/@comment-213.112.149.119-20110207035714/@comment-76.185.120.15-20110208173919

rank 5 it heals him for 62.5 hp and he has to be within 600 range of you. 62.5 hp is nothing. Whereas the nuke of Kassadin is 700 range and a 2.6 second silence. Or Lux has a 1000 range nuke with 2 second immobilize and she has a 1100 range aoe slow nuke. Kennen has a 3-second 900 range nuke + a 800 range nuke that both stun enemies.

2 of Vlad's spells don't become 4 spells just because he buys items. Other champions buy items too. Lux can buy a Rylai and spell slows stack with item slows to slow much higher than vlad. Vlad's ult is also one of the weakest of its kind. vlad's does 350 + 0.7 at max rank and usually hits 2-3 people unless enemy are stupid, they can even shield or heal up because it doesn't damage them for 5 entire seconds. Karthus' does 550 + 0.7 to all 5 people no matter how spread out they are. Lux's beam does 500 + 0.85 and can hit people far away unlike Vlad's and is instant damage unlike Vlad's. Kennen's has enough orbs to do 3150 damage and he can stun multiple people for 2 seconds with it. Pantheon's ult is 1000 + 1 and provides him a free global teleport mobility boost and allows ganks unlike vlad's. Amumu's has 350 + 1 and dishes out 2 second stuns to everyone touched (Vlad has zero stuns and zero CC.) Morgana's does instant 325 + 0.8 and a delayed 325 + 0.8 and multiple 2 second stuns.

Vlad has a 3 second 600-range nuke with no CC at all. Ashe has a 4 second nuke that can hit 3-5 people at once every 4 seconds at 1,100-range. Riot agrees with us that Vlad is perfectly balanced as he is. He doesn't provide any utility and his damage is average and his survivability is average. His small amount of bonus HP is completely countered by the fact it is used up if he ever casts W, E, or R. Vlad is one of the weakest champs in the game for the first half and then endgame he is average.