Talk:Draven/@comment-5883057-20130912201548/@comment-3546228-20130918165415

Renekton doesn't have a passive as well. Still really popular and powerful. Shyvana is really powerful by herself as well, the reason she's not picked so often is because she doesn't have a place in this meta.

When we're talking about Draven, he didn't really get overnerfed. It's just that he's not that much of a safe pick, unlike, who can do what he can do in lane and do it easier.