Talk:Riven/@comment-4834593-20131228142718/@comment-9008617-20140110165025

@CliffShadow:

"Small mistake in the mana part, at lvl 3 she has 440 mana (lvl 1 is 290 + 50)."

Level 1 (290 mana), level 2 (290 + 50 = 340 mana), level 3 (340 + 50 = 390 mana).

"And true her gap closing distance is 1105 but its over a period of ~2 seconds, as well as utilising most of her damage to close that gap. Simply walking away when she dashes at you makes it possible to keep a safe distance."

Like UNOvvrn has said, the full execution is a lot shorter than that. Also as I've said, Karma's AA range is 525 which means just 2 of Riven's Qs (250 x 2 = 500) are enough to close the AA range which leave you with one more Q (250), the E (325), and a Flash (400) for a total remaining range of 575 (975 with Flash). Riven's Q and W also have hard CC which will buy her time to perform her combo and reset her CDs.

Riven's CDs are also lower than Karma's (with the exception of their Qs) and Riven's W and E's CD continue to decrease with level whereas Karma relies more on her passive to bring down her high CD times.