Talk:Nidalee/@comment-24509120-20140406180050/@comment-4296199-20140413031705

Does no one say anything about the damage? For a basic skill to have almost 600 base damage with more ap ratio than a Tristana ult, this thing is freaking beastly. Having an AP Nid discourages teamfights by throwing out a spear. If it hits a tank, they take massive damage. If they hit anyone not durable, they almost die. Having it come at a minimum of 6 seconds makes this even worse.

Its not that she's broken by doing this, but she applies unneccesary pressure by throwing out very long range basic skills. No one really enjoys that risk, especially if it comes repeatedly in a teamfight.

As for the ENGAGE HER TO DEATH argument, the same could be said of a large amount of champions. Just because that is a "weakness" doesn't excuse that she can stay damn far away and nuke any engagers or assassins on the carries. A Vi ulti will catch almost anybody, an unexpected Malphite ult reks ppl's shit, an Amumu bandage toss is effective on almost anyone. Isn't there anyway to mitigate the threat of an ulti level of damage from those spears?

Personally, I'd say we lower her base damage on the spear by alot. The base value was already good, but making it scale by 250% makes it crazy. If they did that, they could do something for the rest of her kit.