Talk:Ezreal/@comment-10880231-20140711122837/@comment-5955640-20140712030245

Ashe is only outranged by Caitlyn on average. Kog'maw and Tristana would be the only other two but after a certain time as passed and for Kog it would be an activate.

Between the Q's Ashe already has the Perma Slow without items. Grabber supports would be bad but getting grabbed shouldn't really happen if you are laning and if there are people hiding in bushes between wards and hawkshots they don't get away with grabs.

Given that Ezreal like most marksmans doesn't have more than 30 magic resistance and unlike other marksmans has a really low base pool of health you are actually just as hot a kill to obtain although you still have the E. Either champ is pretty doomed if it's Leona on the other end.

Pushing lanes is not what a support does either. Late game you want to get rid of those minion waves by allies killing them or genuinely split pushing. Ulting a lane killing only a few minions and causing the wave to push to the enemy means either the enemy gets free CS or a minion is wasted on a turret. They could take the turret but the player gets more gold for actively taking a turret.

You don't become AP Ashe because you support either. You take Either Talisman or Face which will help the defenses you need or the mobility that's required.

The thing is. Essentially. When you max CDR on Ashe you gain things that directly benefit others. You gain vision of the map. You get team initation. You get slows for other people to optimize on.

Ezreal maxed out on CDR is still selfish because you get to escape but your marksman doesn't. You have to buy a mid to late game item to have the CC you would want at early game. And the ult isn't strong enough. It's the difference between a double ADC bottom and a ADC and a support that happens to be a Marksman.

If you want to know why people don't like the idea of support Ezreal there it is. People like buff supports. They like heavy utility. And they like relevant mage damage with powerful lockdowns. Everything that Ezreal doesn't have.