Talk:Kindred/@comment-16064126-20151011021743/@comment-4368884-20151011225202

>The thing that I object to. Is snap judgements on a unplayed champion

Just so we’re clear, I’m not making snap judgements on the viable and playability of the champion. I’m questioning how that kit even relates to the champion at all.

>So why bother to make an observation that sounds or act least acts absolute when everything is subject to change in time and you'll entirely change your opinion? How hard is it to give something time?

Oh please. That’s such a BS argument. You could literally say that about anything. Suddenly we can’t give our opinion or input pre-release because "it may change anyway". Fantastic, but I don't see any change yet so I'm gonna feel free to holding that opinion until otherwise. Just like you're free to hold yours. Besides, we’re talking about the design of the champion. Not the skill or OPness/UPness of a champion.

>Quinn

You keep going on about Valor but the point is that KINDRED is 85% lamb, 15% wolf. All the previews, concepts, and lores of kindred led me to believe it would’ve been a more balanced interaction. Right now, it’s a severe lack of Wolf. There’s no satisfaction in using wolf like you would in Lamb. Let’s stop talking about Quinn. I wasn’t led to believe Quinn was going to be 50% Quinn and 50% Valor. In fact, that part didn’t even concern me.

You could make Wolf work like Kalista’s Rend or send him out like Valor’s Q. I don’t know. Just something more interactive with wolf!

We’re not talking about pets. I’m not gonna push Riot to make Wolf its own pseudo-champion. *I’m hoping to see more use out of wolf.* Because it’s Kindred (Lamb AND Wolf). Not Lamb (and Wolf). We’re talking about the design/kit Kindred overall as it relates to the concept.

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;background:rgb(20,33,47);">Champions pretty much out in PBE. If there’s any big changes or reworks, you’d see it in PBE, dude. It’s no secret. Albeit, you might see changes like "Ult is now ground targetable" but that's not a complete rework/redo. More of adjustment.

<p class="MsoNormal">

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;background:rgb(20,33,47);">This is the most I’ve ever responded on LoL wikia. Haha