Talk:Kayle/@comment-72.136.136.141-20121228065036/@comment-2124153-20130102192131

^ I help other players all the time, Support is my second-most played role. The issue is that I do things that actually help them, as opposed to things that just make the team weaker, papering over someone else's mistakes by doubling down with a mistake of my own.

If my carry doesn't build LW/BC and the enemy team is stacking Armor, we have a big problem. I cannot solve this problem by getting BC myself and hoping that the carry attacks the same target as me. I solve this problem by pointing out to the ADC, that the reason they hit like a stiff breeze is because they have no ArPen. If they stick their fingers in their ears and insist that quadruple Bloodthirsters are perfectly fine, I will just throw the team on my back and build for DPS so that we have a chance to actually win.

Sometimes an off-build item is good even if Kayle doesn't like it personally. Aegis is a good example. This is a dumb item on Kayle. Super-dumb. But if nobody on the team has one, you will lose winnable fights. So when my team refuses to build one, I will do it, even though it hurts me personally, because the alternative scenario (everyone blows up instantly) is worse than me losing out on an AS item.

Black Cleaver is basically never in this situation for Kayle. It's dumb for her, and dumb for the team. She can't apply the stacks to multiple people. This is fatal to the argument.