Talk:Shen/@comment-50.53.139.17-20120912032132/@comment-50.53.139.17-20120912054514

It doesn't change the fact that Pantheon and TF are more restricted in split-pushing options than Shen is. That was my point.

I can concede Janna and Lee Sin though. Bans are situational, especially depending on the elo level. For example, I think banning Darius in low elo is very prudent but I wouldn't do so in high elo.