Talk:Nocturne/@comment-3554826-20110727195457/@comment-4011002-20110727231046

Well they are very different champs

Nocturne is an assasin and one of the best junglers and gankers in the game, his ganks are almost impossible to escape from and his jungling is VERY fast, he is a real nightmare for the enemy team early/mid game but imo he is getting weaker in late game

Jarvan is a TANKY/dps/initiator, a good jungler and a GREAT ganker ( if you can aim well with his skillshots ), now this guy can be the worst nightmare of the enemy team from lvl 2 to lvl 18, he realy is a beast, he can disrupt the whole enemy team, tank fair amounts of damage and dish out considerable amounts of damage...

So to sum up Noc is a better jungler and early mid game champ but you must have a reliable team in order to be succesfull. Jarvan is more of a John Rmbo champ that will jump into the enemies and make them fly...