Talk:Ashe/@comment-25912163-20150530114343/@comment-26459957-20150603012229

OP's actually right.

Her passive sucks super early and only until she itemizes by 30-40 minutes does it become useful. Not to mention, it's a trash 5% slow. Not sure if anyone saying the OP is wrong (without any proof to back up your claims mind you) has played Ashe, but in practice that slow makes little to no difference. Even with her Q active (with or without max stacks) the slow does not do enough to warrant any fear from her opponents because 90% of the time, any lane opponent Ashe has to face will out-damage her viciously. She is tied with the lowest base movement speed out of all the adcs at 325 has barely more armor than Vayne and Kog (big whoop) but far less than any other (which actually does make a decent difference especially with runes) until level 18 at which point the difference in damage reduction will be all of 0.2% damage without armor pen. She has crap base health and health scaling (lower than EVERY other adc) and she only beats Varus and Kog in base damage by 2 but ties with them at lvl 18 at 100 and loses to every other adc by at least 1 damage (big whoop). In practice, not sure if you've noticed but you will often crit for less damage than you initially hit for in spite of the fact that you should have 10% more damage. Not sure if that's a bug but I'm saying you need to build at least 1 crit item before you crit for more than you hit. Her w is so easily blockable by supports or minions that you can't really rely on it for damage (lest you be relying on their mere stupidity for not sitting behind the latters) and her e does nothing damage-wise. Unless you spawn at level 6, you're basically outclassed by everybody else and unless you farm hard for 35 minutes, you won't be of any use because she's more hyper late-game than even Vayne.

Going back to what I said about any lane opponent that Ashe has to face will outdamage her 90% of the time. Word on the street says that Ashe will outdamage Jinx q for q. I can only say that those are some carboard 5 Jinxes because you literally sit there as Jinx and you will ramp up your attack speed and own any Ashe you face. If not, you can out-range and poke her to death with the rocket launcher. Where in that is the Ashe out-doing Jinx 1 to 1?