Talk:Taric/@comment-4296199-20131127211306/@comment-4296199-20131129153132

however, the bonus damage from his passive just from getting armor hurts quite a bit. The AP scalings may be lost, but they now have different scalings or the base values haven't changed much. Now, Taric hurts with basic attacks as well as with his skills.

As to the other guy, Iceborn with Taric will hurt like hell. Spellblade gemcraft go well together since they proc from the same conditions.