Talk:Garen/@comment-24648781-20150926144715

So, I find that there is quite some whining going on about Garen´s Ultimate late game against the villain. When Damage numbers exceed 1k true damage, people start to cry. However, I have also found that not all of that true damage that you find there actually comes from the ultimate. (Playtested with a friend) - The R-Passive true damage you deal to your villain gets added to that once you execute. For example, I played against a friend who stacked Mundo up to well over 5000 hp and then killed the bot i was playing with, marking him as my villain. Then, I traded a bit with him, whittled him down to 2000 hp, he healed back, I whittled him down again etc. When I finally executed him at about 300 health, the ultimates damage in his death recap listed more than 1500 true damage done by demacian justice. Which just about comes close to the total amount of true damage i did through AAs and E procs together with the final ult.

So yeah, while Garen´s Ultimate makes him strong against his villain, the damage numbers are not to be taken quite so literally.