Talk:Talon/@comment-4538269-20130612003757/@comment-9533487-20130615043919

Looking at the ratios, you out trade Darius if you can keep him from building many bleed stacks before you W or E out. I haven't literally played this matchup; I'm going off both what i've had a Darius do vs me in a melee matchup, and this one time when I played Talon jungle, where I had to lane top a few times because he was stomping our Jax (meanwhile Jax took some jungle farm). It worked out in the short term at least; we both had mana issues so he couldn't keep forcing trades, my issues were a bit less than his.

He killed me once under my turret, I killed him once under his; the game moved on and I couldn't burst him down again until waaaay late game, though I wasn't focused on that--I was focused on making sure that Vayne never got to Condemn anyone. We won after a long time since they didn't have any hard engage, and we had better seiging ability, not that the ending matters I suppose, since we were discussing a farm heavy toplane Talon game, and not jungle Talon (though I assure you I was not underfed much at all! A lot of kills for me that game due to people walking by themselves).