Talk:Elise/@comment-94.134.195.240-20121024114934/@comment-4729118-20121024161148

bad ratios indeed. 1% of hp every 50 AP isnt that much since its allways weaker than the optimum (100% / "0"% Life). the 80% AP Ratio of W is pretty badass, but she's missing dmg on E aswell. And her Ult onhit is 20% + 5x 10% = 70% in theory, but the spiderlings wont benefit from mpen and you wont buy armorpen with her, so its like 50% dmg from em' = 45%~. Now even Teemo has 40% onhit on AP and another 40% over 4 sec where the first one trigges immediately = 50% onhit...

Yes, for an ultimate that gets weaker when hit by some AoEs, pretty weak ratio.