Talk:Gragas/@comment-4878039-20131121144230/@comment-8506165-20131125064200

@Hyundie: Perhaps you're going too glass cannon? I've found him to be much stronger now with my bruiser Gragas build (which still works in mid fine, the burst doesn't really feel at all lacklustre early-midgame) but I've seen Gragas players do incredibly well with a fairly glassy build with just a RoA as a concession to survivability.

Sure, if you're going Doran's Bling > Athene > Hat > Zhonya now (for instance) you're gonna be worse off. But with a natural defensive steroid from W a little survivability goes a long way. RoA, Rylai's, Liandry's... all good offensive options that still leave you with a fair bit of tankiness behind you without significantly compromising your raw AP or damage.