Talk:Shen/@comment-166.113.0.26-20111010224621/@comment-3486816-20111011021556

Shen can do whatever though. Stonewall starts at blue (or after wolves, not sure), I prefer to never take it and give it to my AP Carry ASAP, since honestly shen hardly benefits from it. Then again, I do that on Maokai too just because my route allows it. I tend to take Red since it does speed up his jungling a bit. Be aware that without ghost or flash you'll have some trouble ganking, and without madred's razors your jungling will be fairly slow, but past level 3 or so you'll pretty much never drop below full health, and you aren't burdened down with mana. It's a wonderfully sustained and non-stressful jungle that lets you focus on levelling up and supporting your teammates with your ult.