Talk:Udyr/@comment-180677-20130322084850/@comment-92.228.133.240-20130322101558

Srs i dont like this Changes at all. First of all the passiv was fine and now she gets nerfed again 15 movementspeed is a joke compared to the free resis u got late game.

Tiger stance change is also overall a nerf: Hybrid dmg was great so u couldnt counter Udyr with just armor + there arent lots of good mr items aswell. Now when even carrys get Randiuns it is even worse for udyr to do full physical dmg. And also noone should ever buy bc on udyr Botrk is way better and after that you want tank items (while jungling u want to go tanky from the start).

Turtle stance can crit now YAY meele carry Udyr....Why would you even want crit on turtle stance if u want to deal dmg you stay in tiger/phönix and noone builds crit. So overall not much has changed here mana regen gone is a nerf to early 20 more shield a crappy buff for mid/lategame.

Bear stance is buffed overall but 2-3 sec of ignoring unit colusion isnt that great to make up for Q and passiv nerf imo.

Phönix stance is overall buffed for Ganks with flames on first attack now thats nice.

But im a fan of Tigerudyr and so im disappointed by this changes. Just giving him a buff to Bearstance would had been enough imo.