Talk:Garen/@comment-81.51.86.82-20120814102309/@comment-4929329-20120814231356

This is what is happening to Garen-

His base dmg is being buffed until the point where he can build AD and Crit, in which case he is rewarded with even more crit dmg than before. Garen deals more single target dmg than Renekton, Lee Sin, Jayce, or Darius just because of crit chance. For that matter, Judgement is more AoE than Lee Jayce or Darius will have, and Garen can escape while Darius cannot, and Lee is limited to dashes. Garen has more tankiness than Darius, Renekton, Riven, or Jayce, and Garen ult is unavoidable.

You're comparing apples to oranges. Riven isn't or shouldn't be called a bruiser, Darius is a 1v1 maniac and lane bully, Lee Sin is a jungler, Jayce has a totally different moveset, and if you're comparing Garen to Renekton, then they have about the same sustain so stop acting like passive nerf is a big deal. It scales with CDR now, BTW.

Garen has a movespeed boost and a resist steroids. Darius has the opposite. 'Nuff said.