Talk:Heimerdinger/@comment-5068528-20130107163231/@comment-174.138.223.63-20130109183255

i agree with the fact that the heimer remake should make him more of a support. As an inventor you would think he would be able to have a whole lot of utility instead he has an unreliable blind/stun and turret that are supposed to reduce target armor and mr (quasi cc) at lvl2 which isn't really a whole lot of utility since his turrets are really weak. they should make heim more of like what was mentioned a buffer support. Turrets could be more defensive, focus higher priority target (within range) and have maybe like a defensive aura like a miniature version of the actually turrets in lane. another ability could have a invention/buff that benefits the holder increasing attack speed/reducing cooldowns for a short duration (so it's not just ad carry based but also great on ap burst carries). and the last ability could be his own damage ability like rockets.

Heim as is isn't bad but with little reliable cc he pretty much has to rely on rylais for slows on his rockets and might as well take liandry's with that, as a matter of fact i think he's the only mid lane champ i can see being better without getting a rabadon's which means a lot for a current mid laner.

i usually go with boots, chalice, and haunting guise early with my final build ending up being boots (preference do to how the game is progressing, Athene's, Liandry's, Rylai's, Zhonya's (also good since it gives you some armor and the passive is great when you get dived on and have 2 turrets to deal AoE dmg for you), as well as an aura the team may need to give you more of a teamfight presence. you won't burst people anyways so you have to take a more reliable passive sustained dmg route.