Talk:Maokai/@comment-89.164.179.203-20120829191936/@comment-109.95.150.200-20120830132153

^ This guy clearly hasn`t readed my post (I am the first replier)

1) That`s exactly what I have said, except for the part with Ali starting at red - I see it very rarely. Still, Ali can start ganking earlier than Mao.

2) That`s exactly what I have said, just a bit longer and better explained.

3) Exactly what I have said

4) Exactly what I have said

5) I disagree. Mao`s ult is great in teamfights if landed, but it`s also easy just to escape from. Apart from it, the tree can`t really offer too much - one single-target snare and mild knockback, with weak dmg overall. Alistar on the other hand can tank the enitre enemy team and multi-stun them.

TL,DR: Mao is less gank-dependant, but he still can`t afford to be a jungle farmer. While he is faster at camps, in 1vs1 most counter-junglers beat him hardly.