Talk:Elise/@comment-9051002-20130502173910/@comment-27010991-20130511133505

You're saying that it doesn't matter what the community thinks and Riot just assigns buffs/nerfs at random, right? They make the changes exactly depending on how players interact with champions, so every serious players' opinion counts.

Also, saying that 25 of both armor and magic resistance is irrelevant is pure idiocy. We're talking about several levels worth of defenses here or mr from mercury's threads and armor from ninja tabi (more or less). It sounds like you're thinking with your liver, kidneys or something even farther from brains. Elise is one of the harder champions, she constantly needs to jump in and out of fights, focus and refocus, shift from offense and defense, and yes, change shapes and since her spider shape puts her in considerably more danger, that extra defense is a must-have.

The reason for the nerf was her offensive capabilities, but she's not Galio or Malphite (as in, her defenses don't directly work into her offense), so what the motherflying fuck is the deal with taking away her defenses? Not to mention that she used to already fall out late game and now she lost one of the features that used to make up for it. My guess is you went up against a few good ones and now will approve of any nerf, even if it meant taking away her basic attacks (or reducing her hp to 1). Otherwise, I refuse to believe that you can, ubiased, approve of such a misdirected and harmful nerf.