Talk:Swain/@comment-14910471-20131029191447/@comment-15244341-20131106191636

Annie I can see. Swain though? He seems too squishy to me, as said above, and his base attack speed and attack speed per level are awful. Swain with no tanky items is a dead weight because the short range does matter for an ADC. A reason Sivir never saw play is because being shorter range than most ranged champions in teamfights makes a champion with zero defense really killable. Adn Sivir has her spellshield to survive.

Not saying it doesn't work, just that I'd rather see a proper ADC.

BTW, Fiddle migh work because of the fear, an okay animation and high base damage on ult so it is not useless. Trist has insane autoattack range when E is maxed and an awesome speed steroid plus mobility, Grievous Wounds and peeling. Swain has 20% extra damage on a short range skill plus some CC and no mana to ult. That does not sound like playing to the champions strengths (being tanky magic damage DPS that thing).