Talk:Nocturne/@comment-79.221.92.59-20110512182624/@comment-3557365-20110517141551

he shouldn't be initiating anything(ganks are a differant story), he is down right squishy, he doesnt always have to be mop up, i usually attack the squishy ranged behind the bruisers and tanks, he is also usefull in just using the ulti to confuse the team, using it doesnt mean having to use the second effect, he is still very good imo, people are just fucking babies with calling him OP and UP, learn to counter, and learn to play smart