Talk:Lee Sin/@comment-15562896-20130308082742/@comment-15562896-20130314053124

Well I am not sure that what he needs is his old W and E back. His old W was only really interesting in the jungle as those 30 energy spent on Iron Will in teamfights could very well cost you a teamfight as you couldn't get your cripple / resonating strike off due to that.

It was a nice steroid in the jungle but a very weak steroid in teamfights because Lee Sin is usually very limited in terms of energy during teamfights unless he can keep auto attacking someone.

To me it sounds like Riot disliked his popularity and nerfed him out of nowhere. He needed his borderline OP early game to make up for his shitty lategame presence. But people complain about strong early game junglers all day so he got nerfed.

It's not that bad when Vi, Xin or Jarvan gets their early game nerfed (even Skarner), because they are still very strong champions 40 mins in and even if not fed they can have a big impact on the game, Lee Sin doesn't, even if fed he falls-off a lot.

I'm not saying Lee Sin is unable to win games since his nerfs, but he has to get carried even more than before. Even if he helped everyone snowball early, he will need his teammates to carry him if the game lasts (too) long. While Xin, J4, Skarner, Vi (...) don't.