Talk:Talon/@comment-25532677-20161207012400/@comment-9771997-20161210232829

It feels like the whole point of your comment is that you want every skill to nuke people. Talon's niche before was that he was the AoE assassin, and in a lot of ways they preserved that. They moved some of his damage into his passive and gave him more overall, but made him work harder to apply it, just like they did with the other assassins.

W is great. Clears lane well, 100% of your AD + 270 base damage is not small at all, and it applies two stacks of your passive. Considering they gave assassins easy ways to stack flat pen, and most of them are free to just stack AD instead of going for AS or crit, this is just fine.

R Is great. It covers a massive AoE with 320 base damage and 160% of your AD, gives movespeed to quickly reposition or chase, and two free stacks of your passive on everyone that gets hit.. What else do you want? It to instantly blow up the enemy nexus?

Talon doesn't need any changes, he can fight with anyone that isn't a juggernaut(or other high damage tank) just fine. Laned against a Fizz earlier with me getting level 2 first, and two hits of W and a Q + AA + ignite overkilled him from full hp. Weak early? What? Even if he had gotten level 2 the hp increase still probably wouldn't have saved him. Struggling against burst champions? Well Leeroy, your best bet there would be to either play better than them or roam; Can't expect Riot to just buff things when you can't slap your hand on the keyboard and get kills now can we.