Talk:Jarvan IV/@comment-31248485-20170718134400

This Gargoyles plate J4 is absurd! I understand there is counter play to his E-Q combo, Dodge it, He just does so much damage with his ult and AA, that I don't think he needs to really use his E-Q for dmg. It's more of a utility once he pops Gargoyles. He has already done his job dmg wise to a carry (or most likely multiple carries) and just doesn't die. I am having an awful time playing against him. I could just suck though.