Talk:Fiora/@comment-3493296-20150723014431/@comment-24385282-20150727024948

Well if you remove her item dependency without nerfing her damage, you'd need to have her max hp true damage on Vital procs scale in such a way that she'll have roughly the same scaling with a typical, realistic build at level 18 on PBE as she would in your proposed change.

This is problematic, because a typical Fiora build still has a fair amount of AD, meaning she can kill any target in 4-5 Vital shots with a realistic item setup. But because it now scales with level rather than AD, she would be dealing that damage at level 18 even when full tank (and if she dealt less damage, it'd be a straight-up nerf to her damage, which you can't get around anymore by making it scale off of bonus AD because that's exactly what you're avoiding).

I'm sure you see the issue with that - a tank who can kill any target in 5 shots, regardless of their build? It will become ridiculously easy for her to proc the Vitals because she could just get like 5 Warmog's Armors and a GA or something like that and have a 100% guaranteed chance at living long enough to hit all of the Vital marks, something that PBE Fiora can't realistically do with enough bonus AD to be dealing enough damage to get the same effect.