Talk:Zeke's Harbinger/@comment-6281696-20150730202206

sigh.. yet another support item that looks amazing on paper but falls flat in practise..

Like pretty much all support items it doesn't provide enough of any single stat, or a interesting enough combination, to be truly worthwhile once you disregard the passive/supportive part. It's great that I can support my ally with my items, but that doesn't mean I don't still need stats myself, even if I can make do with a suboptimal build by focusing on utility. This doesn't mean I want this item to provide a 100 armor, 1K mana and 120AP 40% CDR and that passive, but it'd be nice if it were more than a glorified glacial shroud with some AP thrown in statwise..

Secondly, like most utility items, it is a very binairy item. Either that 6 second buff triggers in a fight and it is amazing, or it doesn't (for whatever reason) and the item is essentially a waste of a slot given it's relative weak stats. Which is going to result in either people refusing to fight whenever they can't be reasonably sure the item will trigger, or people just ignoring the item altogether because it's not likely enough to actually help...

Third, the CD is monstrous. Yes it's balanced, but unless both of you are constantly attacking it'l most likely have an effective CD of at least 50 seconds, probably more once you take into account that the stacks will frequently reset or be triggered at the wrong time. Now given the buffs it gives this is reasonably balanced at first glance (and any shorter would have to mean diminishing the buffs), however this leaves some massive gaps during which the item is essentially a glorified glacial shroud. Which makes the first two issues even worse...

It just doesn't feel anywhere near good as a support item...

That's not to say it won't see any play though. For example I can see this item being abused to high heavens in organized teams by having say an AP, or even some tanks, jungler or top take it, throw the buff on an AP Mid, harras a bit before starting a fight and then horribly murder everyone with a single spell... I just don't see it becoming particularly effective for any supports, not unless it turns out the thing is extremely easy to trigger once you get the hang of it or full AP supports become popular again...