Talk:Garen/@comment-26044269-20150822053412/@comment-24496127-20150822151925

I think it's just really dumb how hard it punishes you for doing good.

It's like, you can have a comeback with careful position and picks and smart play, or you can have a Garen that ults the villain while they're at 40% hp, and no matter who it is, they die. God forbid you're marked as a villain when you're laning against him, It happened to me while I was playing Fiora, and roamed mid and got a double kill, and when I came back top I just had to sit at tower despite having a pretty big item advantage.

Although he can at least still be kited. I had a kalista complaining nonstop about his damage while jumping into him....

Still, invalidating any other melee champion isn't exactly healthy.