Talk:Fiora/@comment-3493296-20150723014431/@comment-24496127-20150729035549

She's a melee carry that lacks significant ability to dive enemy carries, and beat most other sustained damage champs in 1v1's honestly, in exchange for greater potential utility and tank shredding. Some champions counter tanks, and if she builds 400 AD then it requires extreme skill to be useful in a teamfight. Stop looking at this as a situation where a tank is the only person on the team that's allowed to fight her for some reason. This game isn't about 1v1's. If it was then Warwick, Ap Nunu, Tryndamere, and Poppy would all be top picks.

Lastly, making her passive scale with level is a terrible idea. Fiora would just go tanky. That's bad, both thematically and for counterplay. Her running around doing significant true damage while not dying just wouldn't be fun gameplay, which is the entire point of this update. You'd be turning her into a tank that shreds other tanks and significantly hurts carries. It's only binary in that you don't beat her by building defense, much in the same way you don't beat trundle by building defense. That's not binary really, that's just a champions kit having strength in tank shredding. Which she gains in exchange for bad diving and assassinating.

I mentioned her old Kit because c4 said that the new Fiora can kill without ult, which basically every adc type champion in the game can do.