Talk:Zyra/@comment-26808509-20170915200719

I really wish they would take a look at Zyra again. With the Ardent meta and damage supporter like her becoming unpoular they simply lost interest in changing her, but it's still desperately needed to my mind. As most people I never was a fan of the RNG passive, but it would be fine if it wouldn't carry most of her damage. The passive and her pretty high cd W are half of her damage, in some situations even more. Just because her spells themselves are merely weak on their own. Neither the damage nor the cc from her basic abilities are enough to be a zoning tool, they are only usefull if they are combo'ed together. And E has a long cooldown AND is her only reliable hard CC, meaning it leaves her voulnerable using it.

The only real zoning tool she has are her plants and they are mostly random, which feels incredibly bad. Think about it, she is a zone control mage that cant control which zones she controls. On botlane that might works, because ADC's rarely have the opportunity to farm outside of their AA range and the lane is longer, but in midlane it doesn't. And it leaves her with that combo mage- playstyle that scales pretty badly.

So either they have to increase her AP ratios to strengthen that playstyle (and open more opportunites due to thing like better Q poke), give her more control of her plants or they need to take another turn on the Zyra update. But oh well, I guess it will be a long time until Riot will regonize Zyra's existence and her unhappy state.