Talk:Udyr/@comment-4636093-20190727101559/@comment-3148314-20191023120652

The dilemma and reason for Tiger being less item-dependent is its total AD scaling and Udyr's high base AD. I could imagine that a change to bonus AD on Tiger could make it on par with Phoenix. However, this would greatly nerf full-tank builds on him that currently depend on Q working without AD items.