Talk:Karma/@comment-35443879-20190106185430/@comment-28977071-20190110011220

I'd dare to oppose that just as, both &  do give a shit about their autos. Their situation looks similar to me, AAs aren't essential, yet all the mages can still benefit from them more than a generic champ.

I'd agree with the fact that autos seem to be the most synergic ones with her kit, but that's imo still arguable.

Also my personal feel about is that she's still strong. I find her to be very versatile, offering many paths to build both into dmg and/or control/utility. I find her to be still strong even without being empowered by  (which, to be honest, is imo nuts in teamfights). The crucial nuance being that instead of flat dmg mitigation it also allows to indirectly mitigate inflicted dmg via that MS boost.