Talk:Riven/@comment-5696294-20121103032524/@comment-24.16.173.103-20121103202608

Nidalee would end up killing your 3/5 pots before you go back, which would give any jungler (I mentioned Maokai because his quick blue and wolves kills Riven's presence in lane at level 2) the advantage. I never said she wouldn't have a jungler, but the cooldown on Ki Strike is too high at level 2 for your jungler to want to gank. (Unless it's Shyvana, she does what she wants). But your team already has an initiator (You, as Riven), so it wouldn't make sense to take Shyvana anyways.

Nidalee's trades in the world tournament against Yorick really prove that you underestimate her Q damage. With autoattack damage + base + base AD from trin force + AD scaling + your missing health, getting a BF sword or a BT will not mitigate a single bit of that damage. AD Kennen and AD Nidalee have free harass against her. She has a gap closer, but that's just it, a gap closer. Nid jumps around in brushes, Kennen gets 3 seconds of a huge movement speed steroid, you will not reach them. Any example of this would be Dyrus playing Riven against Kennen and Nidalee.

Also, I believe you misunderstood the purpose of my last paragraph. Your build is not geared towards people you consider 'bad' Rivens. All of these people probably don't have full rune pages, or aren't even level 30 yet. You simply must consider the playstyle and skill level of those trying to maximize survivability for late-game.