Thread:Willbachbakal/@comment-1920550-20150512100119/@comment-1920550-20150625043432

Except you're talking about removing pen (or at least that is the inpression you are noting) completely as a stat.

It's both personal experience and watching high level/pro games. Post rework Jayce has seen nice play (which is due to his better scaling in the lategame), but for instance the game between Team Liquid against TSM, their mid laner Fenix played Jayce into Bjerg's Azir...while he farmed up a storm and wittled the enemy team down with multiple E-Q combos, they had a Gnar, a Rek'Sai and an Alistar, who was body blocking Jayce's damage over and over....plus the metric amount of CC they had, made that Jayce going in was tantamount to suicide, which he actually did atleast twice...he best he could do was stall for an extra while.