Talk:Elo rating system/@comment-82.197.216.22-20120203121454

Disqualifying elo hell in a way that is described here is complete nonsense. Furthermore the below post is right about one thing, but the estimated number of 200 matches is far to random to be accurate.

I can take myself as example for it, I've played 300 games and after dropping from 1350 to around 1100 (never below) I've been there for roughly 250 games. Taken in the fact that maybe 10 out of the 250 are duo queue with a 900 friend makes it 240. They were maybe 1 out of the 10 that I could actually pull out a win.

Those 240 games have been completely random, I have learned multiple champions, the game fully and able to play every specific role required on every aspect of the game selecting masteries and runes on match up base. My main has a win ratio of around 58% with a second and third "main" just around 50. Does this justify the fact I should only play my main to climb the ladder? NO.

You cannot rely on one champion due to picks and whatnot. The games taken into account that I won on my main is only because I played a bigger portion of games on that specific champion, and being below my actual ELO makes you gain a higher % as you played a significant amount of games on that champion compared to the others.

Being in a 100 elo range for 240 games alone is a complete joke. I have tought 2 to 3 people about how to play the game as team, how to gank, and how to dominate your lane, lasthit and jungle. Those players are 300 elo above me? WHY? Because they duo queue. They are both moderate players such as myself that line up together to lower their lose % and have more chance to win.

They are 1500 elo, they are at the right rating, the reason they are their is stated above. Your first games are so important yet so little information that the only way you can avoid the lower rating is by having great starting games that define your base elo before reduction kicks in.

I can say, for a fact, that I am equal to them, and equally skilled at same lanes, champions and teamplay. Being 300 elo lower for only queueing solo is the difference right there. Solo queueing lowers your chance to win, and around starting elo that is a bad thing to do, you will want a higher amount first before you lower your chance to win (by your own knowledge as your friend might fail and whatnot)by queueing with an equally skilled friend to define your elo faster.

If 300 games does not create something you can set as "ELO hell" you are mistaken, ignorant or just completely above yourself.