Talk:Orianna/@comment-24606304-20140712195035/@comment-24124171-20140717040402

Always max w first. People came up with some bullshit conception that ball placement is the most important thing on Ori, which is simply false until later in the game when teamfights are much more violent and your ball actually does something. Ball movement doesn't mean a thing if you don't do damage. It doesn't matter how well you place your ball if it will only afford you 70+150 base damage. W max is the only way you can present a powerful burst for lane trades and be more of a threat in mid game. It's damage is a lot more reliable than Q, which is easy to dodge and gets reduced damage. Shockwave is a powerful ultimate, but it's power is exaggerated because a lot of it stems from the fact that it is almost always chained with a Dissonance. A level 1 dissonance with a level 1 shockwave is worthless compared to what you can do with a level 4 dissonance at level 7. People may argue about mana cost. Bear in mind that although Q's mana cost does not increase, it's cooldown goes down. Thus, in order to even approach the level of dps gained from W, you need to spend more mana. Also keep in mind the previous reliability arguement, so in terms of mana, assuming you have decent experience and ping, you will always get your mana value from W as you will almost always be able to hit it.