Talk:Shaco/@comment-27.99.4.183-20121103073545/@comment-27.99.4.183-20121103234756

then tell me why i never see shaco jungling anymore when i play. and if a Shaco jungles one game, he's ALWAYs useless and underfarmed. jack in the box is some form of cc, but its not reliable when ganking, no one levels up his boxes for only a 0.25 improved duration of fear. You have to set the box down and by that time, the gank is already over and you failed. Shaco needs some better initation for a gank, I don't mind if they nerf the duration of the shealth etc, but improve his ganking ability because the jungling is the only role where Shaco is able to stay in the game.

He doesn't need a huge buff. Just some reliable form of cc than that crappy slow and non-existant fear, hence either the very minor stun or stronger slow for his shiv mentioned earlier.