Talk:Renekton/@comment-4915885-20120726122646/@comment-4929329-20120729083850

Runes is not directly about optimizing everything your champ could possibly do. It is the inverse of that.

Runes let you specialize in a certain method of play, therefore, having any 1 rune set and calling it good is a lie, but a good starting place.

@Anon, Energy and Mana based champions have issues if they can't cast spells, why does Fury seem to be so important to you? It's not that hard to get... You draw a line by saying that Fury Generation is required on him, and you're right. Then again, Tryndamere needs Attack Speed for the same reason, and Anivia gets mana regen for the same reason. They need their resource. You need food, so you take action to get some. This isn't a notable thing about Renekton, because it has nothing to do with Utility requirements, such as Phage on Darius, which matters A LOT, because your champion is at a disadvantage until they obtain that item.

Zilla quoting you, or getting anywhere near doing so, has no relevance to anything.

Black Cleaver = 45 Armor reduction.

45 * 2.25 = 101.25 (The opposite of 4/10 or 40% of Last Whisper is 10/4 or 2.25)

It takes 101.25 armor for Last Whisper to become as powerful as Black Cleaver.

Twitch's base armor at lv18 = 68 + 68 from Gaurdian Angel = 146 armor, WITHOUT masteries or runes.

If you're trying to say that Last Whisper is useless against that armor, try again. Flat Armor Pen is bad late game. Namely because it restricts your build a whole lot and makes it hard for you to alter your build.