Talk:Karma/@comment-4136460-20150604213054

Karma's incredibly strong with the recent changes. For both support and mid. I'm 15-2 with her so far this patch.

Her lategame is really good now. Grab 40% CDR and her ult has almost no downtime. Can usually use it every 4-6 seconds.

One thing's for sure: Her optimal build for mid is definetely Morello's/Athenes + Ionian boots. You want that 40% CDR by level 13 because the amount of benefit she now gets from CDR is insane. Even as midlaner you don't even need to focus on damage later on when you can eventually pump out 1000+ shields on your ADC every 5 seconds or so.

And her laning didn't get worse whatsoever. RW doesn't even feel weaker since the extra root duration often means 1 extra autoattack, while the base W also got stronger by 0.3. You're losing about 20-30 damage before level 6 at worst. And W+RQ got stronger which has always been the kill combo. So trading didn't really change much at all. Kill potential went up. It really isn't a nerf in any sense.