Talk:Garen/@comment-24090792-20131108143606/@comment-24090792-20131109130507

Odaswifteye :

1 - early game or when you reach levels from 6 to 9 most melee assassins and fighters have almost equal terms in both armor and magic resist due to natural scaling only while in addition assassins tend to take 3 points in Resistance because they usually go mid and flat/scaling MR runes along with fighters let alone any MR items they both might take during this phase so its not true that people will ALWAYS have more armor than MR at least during early and mid game as after that garen tend to lose any kind of purpose ( riot themselves mentioned that in their talk about S4 changes and they said that should be fixed ) and its not true that magic damage helps him because from level 6 your ulti will deal less damage scaling from -34% and more since most characters will have nearly 50 MR at level 6-7 either by natural scalings or with the help of just runes and masteries let alone items and supp auras and you have absolutely no way to counter that

2 - i didnt say that i want scaling damage based on garen damage to be added to his ulti ( although that broken jinx have this in addition to many things which make her ulti a garen on steroids and yet no one whines about that at least the adc and assasins lovers since they use them to climb the elo ladder ) im OK with his ulti numbers i just want it to deal physical damage not magical and considering how hard to cast it in the right time on a low health fleeing enemy giving its low range and the enemy will mostly has some kind of dash or escape and garen has 0 cc - silence is hardly considered a cc - or sticking power and its lond cd i think its justified on him more than that broken jinx