Talk:Rengar/@comment-5209745-20140814234332/@comment-5209745-20140817233246

It's not like I am the only one who calls it "troll", actually I didn't even invented the term. The first time I heard it was on Olaf's page, before the nerfs that drove the berserker to his rework.

If I had to ask, it's because maths never supported getting some arpen combos in first place (You might take LW+YG, or TBC+YG, but definitely not TBC+LW and of course not the three), and because I don't really see how 120 AD+a fuckton arpen from LW+YG+TBC is better than 185~205 AD+the arpen of one arpen item (Considering that the two other items are Hydra+BT). I don't know, even if so much arpen was beneficial, Rengar scales directly with AD, not arpen.

About the TF vs BotRK thing... So, it's a thing about personal prefferences, right? Don't get me wrong, I am a huge TF fanboy and built it on my firsts Rengar builds, but personally I feel that BotRK is better, just as simple as that.

Now, about the combo, I get what Tinhboe says. It's not that you can't oneshot people, but it doesn't works like before. Back then, you would common Q > empowered Q, and done, but now you want to empowered Q > common Q for the increased AD being multiplied by Q's ratio, which implies that you should open your combo with either W or E, unlike before.

On the other hand, although I dislike tank Rengar, I must say that glass cannon rengar isn't either a good idea. I think he should get a balance of 3-4 offensive items and 3-2 defensive ones; or at least, a bloody SV. Those empowered W heals, in turn empowered by SV can easily turn the tide of a duel.