Talk:Zyra/@comment-83.5.104.150-20120730135708/@comment-216.120.137.42-20120730144847

This is my personal opinion: While it LOOKS like it's closer to Kog's since it has true damage and is its own special attack, in PRACTICE it's more like Karth's.  My reasoning is that upon death a Karth will immediately turn on E and start spamming Q's, but he can't move: he has effectively created a zone of "Don't stand here". Zyra's is similar since she's also rooted, and you don't know where or when she's going to shoot Rise of the Thorns; you CAN dodge it, but your main defense is to just get out of there and let her die. Kog is different; not only can he chase you far past his gravesite, but he explodes in EXACTLY four seconds, no more and (more importantly) no less. People may say "Zyra has to wait two seconds before her passive is charged", but guess what, Kog's wait time is DOUBLE that, and that definate window of opportunity may be long enough for CC to dissipate off of you and get a heal/shield/blink up before he explodes. Which is not to say you can't do the same with Zyra or Karth, you've just got more time with Kog. Basically, the fact that Zyra and Karth can't move makes all the difference; they become essentially turrets, whereas Kog becomes John Malkovich from that one scene in R.E.D.