Talk:Orianna/@comment-26177260-20161227003158/@comment-25904283-20161230091241

Ori is super mana hungry early on (even after her Q mana buff) so she can push some mid laners toward their tower abit, but it is far from shoving all the way.

At about level 7, many mid laners with their 1st back item can clear wave equally well, or better. Viktor, Vel'Koz, Malz, Ziggs, Anivia, Brand, Syndra... to name a few.

She is great mid-late game, but she is not a solo carry monster, as she still relies a lot on her team for a good R. Viktor, Brand, Lux or Ziggs are more potent solo carry late game, as their damage potential and team independence are just better than Ori.