Talk:Garen/@comment-25541654-20191009210456/@comment-24659969-20191011150426

There are some actually. Current garen is less powerful against semi-burst opponent with sustained-mobility. Eg: Udyr and Fiora. His defense technically is destroyed here. Previously, on first 0.75 second, you have over 2.2x your effective health and with how DR works, it means also more effective healing value in that burst moment. But now, you merely only got about 1.6x effective health (including the shield) and also less healing value. There is the cap armor which probably may ignored for more agressive players.

Then his E spin now actually nerfed late if the player doesn't do something. The dependency on attack speed for his E spin means also some crippling effect will affect him more than before. Exhaust and frozen heart are to be named. Shredding takes longer as well. Although his multi target damage increased quite significant, his dueling potential is nerfed by loss of that 8%.

He is buffed however if the player now build more into damage-fighter instead tank fighter type. Death Dancer, storm razor and Shiv now becomes viable for Garen due to attack speed.

It is like Rito wants Garen to be more Darius-ish.