Talk:Vladimir/@comment-4659726-20120619013659

Been bored and since Vlad is a favorite champ of mine (besides my other favorite and first mained champ Taric). I was wondering if my masteries were off. Generally I go 21/9/0 for the offensive masteriers benefit to AP, which means more health, which means more damage.

But lately I've been thinking and somewhat annoyed that I cannot reach 20% CDR with offense masteries if I decide to pick up ionians in a certain game. Ideally I have a ball with 25%+ CDR and have been trying to figure out a way to get the CDR in defense by 15/15/0 or 9/21/0 masteries. Sadly, the math balances out to having one extra cast of E+Q combo every 5 casts...meaning 15 seconds. Not really worth it since teamfights don't last that long. To solve this I could always just get blue pot mid game so I have the extra AP and CDR to win the teamfight but thats an extra cost. I do know that at higher ELO they buy the buff pots then pop it right before a teamfight o-o for that little bit of oomph to win the fight.

Anybody have any tested experience with different setups? I would like to know the results.

Tl;dr: I traditionally take 21/9/0 for short teamfights+more short term damage because fights don't last that long. Would 9/21 or 15/15/0 setup improve on or make the build worse. Standard runes, magic pen, hp/lvl, Ap/lvl, flat Ap