Talk:Veigar/@comment-4006117-20110820234117/@comment-94.156.18.156-20110825212824

@King Frogzz

I'm going to ignore your foul language about "getting raped in the ass" and disgusting attitude and get to the point.

I main Singed and Warwick. Unless you consider those two to be squishy AP champs with minimal MR, then I'm afraid the prediction you made is not even close to being correct in any way or form.

The reason that Veigar's buggy design has come to my attention is because I mained him as a mage for several weeks and noticed the before mentioned points while playing all those matches with him.

The point about one shotting tanks is far from an exaggeration and had nothing to do with my opponent being a bad tank. I had a game where my AP reached well over 1K at which point even their toughest tank (happened to be Leona) was either dead or at 100 or so HP after a full combo with DFG bolt, Dark Matter, Ulti and Q.

Now you tell me, was she a bad tank, or was I just too fed? She had well over 3500 HP and a good chunk of MR as every tank should have and yet she was getting melted by a full combo complete with DFG.

I'm gonna go with the second option. At that point, nothing would have really worked against a fed Veigar. Does that seem fair to you? It was pure fortune that the fed Veigar one shotting people was me and not my opponent. How would you counter such a threat late game if you were facing him? The answer is, you CAN'T. You can get QSS and run like hell, but other than that, GG.

I've also had games where farm was denied to me by experienced players who knew what they were up against. After laning phase was over, I had trouble taking down their AP carry from full health and my damage output to tougher champs like WW and Wukong was comparable to being bitten by an annoying mosquito that just buzzes around your face.

Again, all or nothing. It's not QQ if I want to bring up a legitimate point about a champ in the game. It only seems that way because A). You may be at an advantage if you main said champ and want to avoid changes that would harm your play or B). You're just too damn lazy to get into such a discussion.