Talk:Juggernaut/@comment-3529242-20141120110741/@comment-1120494-20141130032643

Its not about Baron tho. Its about clearspeed. Same problem from last season and why tanky junglers were not popular. Spirit Golem didnt helped anything with clearing, so tanks had to invest way more time to kill same amount of cs than any other jungler. In the end, assasin and bruiser junglers could gank more, farm better and stay healthier and there was absolutely no reason to ever get a tank in the jungle.

This problem still exists. In fact, the tank jungle enchantment has the worst gold effiency, while the AP still has the best (just like last season). Devourer and Warrior are both somewhere between and strongly depend on the champion, his damage source and spell ratios etc.

Its quite the irony, that RIOT wanted to change jungle and items to get rid of old problems, but still kept all the issues nearly one-to-one.