Talk:Orianna/@comment-24971427-20170401041726/@comment-31855258-20171109143045

if your bad at jungle and want to git guud play warwick or graves to learn it or any champ thats begginer friendly to jungle.

its probly better for you to start with a power farm jungler and focus on farming while doing ganks that happen to be available along the path.

i cant think of any non begginer friendly power farm junglers only close one is kayn but he also has a really big pay off for power farming.

theres a youtube channel called "NEACE" go there search kayn or shyvanna watch the low elo vids to get the basics.

as for getting ivern u can but hes gonna be advanced for someone new to jungle. its better to stay away from exceptions to rules nearly every champ has when learning a new position or champ archetype.

orianna: she MIGHT be able to jungle lol but anyway shes short ranged and has no dash/blink but other than that shes fine and very very strong.