Talk:Udyr/@comment-26203093-20160222234500/@comment-26203093-20160223014726

But there's no such thing as a turtle build (that works), and the issue that runic echo brought was too much mobility which didn't get bear nerfed.

Tiger already has issues that aren't being addressed. Mainly that it gives the illusion of choice - it's the weakest because it has the least synergy with all his other abilities - it hasn't been addressed, isn't being addressed, and even though this wouldn't improved its situation, it might as well be about as much a concern as AP rek sai until they've figured how to make his kit work around the new items. Doesn't mean his other identitiy defining abilities should be weakened.