Talk:Veigar/@comment-5172617-20121122004307/@comment-190.96.92.14-20121122162348

DFG now not give 15% CD reduction, u need do too much comand to kill something, i use rabbadon and athene unholy and i use E > W > R and sometimes Q to kill, more fast, more efective and more easy, and ur teammates face are "0.0 wtf, too much burst dmg" xD with that items u reach easy 600 AP, get 15% of cd reducction and nice MP after kill something, can fight for long time if u have nice hp.

u get that AP in lvl 10 if u are good with veigar and get some kill in early game.