Talk:Zilean/@comment-6061249-20131111221857/@comment-5955640-20131122075042

A utility mage is usually a support or can double as a support. The tags are pretty clear on this and the idea of you not thinking that Zilean is not a support is crazy. I mean insane.

I mean look at some of the mages with the highest Utility. Lulu, Orianna, and Karma. Notice that all those champs have damage in their kits and that their spells allow for them to buff their allies in not just one but several ways? Lulu is a main support choice. Orianna is a main mage choice and Karma floats between the two (she's all about balance you see) and all three of them do much more in a fight than Zilean does.

What does Zilean do? Speed someone up. Slow someone down. Put down one bomb maybe two. Refreshes his cooldowns and then ults someone or himself to revive and ally or himself. That's like non existent kit to the average mage or support.

You don't have a very consisent harass and even less rapid spell burst potential. Speeding and slowing is something that most champs have and they are lucky enough to actually do damage or possibly buff something else along with it or have the speed up be in conjunction of another spell. The passive is a global subtle buff (that will get replaced as did the other global buffs) that's pretty irrelevant in late game. And the ult requires that you get A LOT of ability power to make it something that would deter or greatly juke someone from killing you.

And that cooldown speeder is a spell that could be the passive of another ability or be his innate.

His kit serves others far more than it serves himself. He can plant a bomb on a diving allied champion. His speed up lets you chase or even kite more effectively. His slow down enables ganks or seiging. And the revive will revive you or anyone else. Most people have a personal revive he shares it with his team and unless he's the one being focused. Should use it on anyone but himself.

He's a support because back in the day supports were designed to be very team dependant he's not so far away from Soraka passive in terms of being a support.

Again. Not like Lulu or Orianna where if you are done casting spells you do decent on hit damage. Or Karma where you have you just pepper people all day long with a spell that has no wait time and chains with a whole kit that just does damage. Locks and peels all the time.

He was support when he first came out and he's always been support. You gotta read inbetween the lines if these tags don't make sense to you in some way.