Talk:Shyvana/@comment-89.69.209.185-20111215070503

well, i compared just damage and ignored the rest, assuming i don't build both heros without any ad+ items. Garen has ms buff, his aoe spin deal way more dmg (btw, shyvana with on-hit effect items is even more countered by mr items so don't tell that shyvana's combo is that hard to block). On max rank burnout is 85+0.2, while judgement is 210+1.4 and removes slows.

In one teamfight, i played as rammus and with thornmail, sunfire and shield active i took 1200 dmg from garen's judgement in whole teamfight basing on recap. Quite much don't you think? And if we compare, garen's shield is just awesome to eat for example veig's combo, way better than additional 25 resists from dragon form.

By the way i dont remember judgement being a channel so i don't get what silence has to do with it

15% armor reduction alone isnt that great, and it doesnt last long enough. hit someone with it on max range and it will dissapear before you catch enemy...