Talk:Talon/@comment-11766967-20130825201747

So, yesterday I was playing some Brand mid. On the opposing team, there was a Talon top. The interesting thing about him is that he build a botrk as his first item. After a while, he got a bit fed (5 kills, 2 deaths, 30 more cs than our Kha'), but our team grouped mid and started demolishing their team in teamfights. We ended the game with him (7/5 now) trying to splitpush bot Teir II tower like a mad man (after killing me), and the rest of his team dead.

During the game, I asked him why he bought botrk on talon. He told me for the passive and because the active could be used while he was stealthed. I told him that there were much better items for talon (BT, BC, Hydra, etc.).

I want to know 2 things:

1. How does the damage of a full rotation with just a botrk at level 18 compare to the damage of full rotations with just a BT, just a BC, and just a Hydra at level 18 (including flat AD quints and marks and 21/9 masteries)?

2. Are the passive and active of botrk amplified by Talon's e?