Talk:Rengar/@comment-24707901-20140526160330/@comment-24707901-20140527153552

No, I have tried all the champions you have listed. And guess what, you didn't name one stealth champion that can kill you in less than a second before you can react ANYWHERE on the map. Talon cannot walk into the fountain and kill anyone before he dies. In lane, you can see where Talon is and obviously he can kill you if you are being stupid and not being careful. Guess what? Stay the hell back. But, he cannot ult and stealth and kill someone before they react. It doesn't even matter if they're being careful or under the tower, Rengar kills them. Kha' Zix? DON'T BE ISOLATED. RENGAR DIDN'T NEED ANYONE TO BE ISOLATED. He WENT INTO the WHOLE TEAM and walked away! Zed wtf? QSS need I say more? And you can SEE him trying to kill you. And all your AP assassins, you don't die to any other of the people you named including AP in less than a second. Not with the same amount of items. And emphasis on your words "in a matter of seconds" NOT LESS THAN A SECONED BEFORE YOU CAN REACT. You can flash a Fizz ult, a diana Q, you can outplay an Akali. You CANNOT do anything if you only have .5 seconds to react, because he is INVISIBLE. Kid no one is complaining about the damage, they are complaining about the fact that he DOES all that damage BEFORE you can react! The problem is there is NO COUNTERPLAY to Rengar. HE gets his 4 dorans, and he will kill and kill and kill before anyone can do anything. All the champions you listed (and by the way you didn't list a champ that can kill you before you realize you're being killed), have counterplay. Do you understand what I'm saying? His damage might be a bit excessive, but it isn't toxic like the fact that you die to him before you realize your dieing/going to die.