Talk:Graves/@comment-31222231-20180611194008/@comment-25855686-20180623014035

short answer he deal way too much damage to match for anyonewith decent mobility.

long answer is that he can 1v1 any jungler lv 2 and his invades are godlike he can red into  invade fearless cause he just deal way more damage than anyone while his w is a super powerful spell in ganks, removing vision mean he can just get a free shot in without retailation while also slowing his target, paired with heavy ad itemization and red smite he is just a nightmare to deal with unless you can ambush him and cc him before he can q auto r. he also abuse some of the strongest items out there like stormrazor and death dance to maximum efficacy. While he is not great in larger teamfight due to his aa mechanic he can still deal lot of aoe damage with q and r. Last i'd mention the fact that games lately are rather short so his godlike early/mid game count even more.

and the cigar of course