Talk:Jarvan IV/@comment-4677525-20120516081252/@comment-4929329-20120516232707

Mana costs are fine now.

Any champ can get beaten badly against another, such as Olaf vs. Irelia

That is like saying Kat ult is UP, or Viktor, or Morgana.

The community Hayes nerfs, Rumble is a prime non-extreme example

He is a great team player, but steamrolls every known carry late in the game due to gap flowers and lolhax dmg. Olaf carries when fed, Riven falls off. Since people tailortheir tanky items late game, everyone falls off a little bit.

I just make stupid mistakes with Jarvan, like diving the tower at lv 2. Do not know why :(