Talk:Hecarim/@comment-84.108.113.177-20130302100947/@comment-217.83.165.234-20130303152632

Hecarim is still a tier 1 jungler

fast clears, sustain, high mobility (counterjungling), very strong ganks while having a good lategame (strong initiation, high amount of AoE DPS if build right, E can protect your own carries or help you to catch enemey carries) and his "nerfed" W can still heal you for 1.000- +2.000 HP with good timing and a strong ADC/ APC

don't listen to crybabys - people who say that Riot nerfs champions to make them unviable are stupid

why should Riot try to sabotage their own game? they earn a lot of money with it and they still want to keep the money factory LoL alive - balancing a game with +100 champions, ~100 items and 4 maps ain't easy but they do better than Dota and the broke the old (bruiser top, AP mid, ADC + sustain sup bot) meta