Talk:Riven/@comment-5209745-20131204175508/@comment-4538269-20131205224701

^ Starting red pot is doable but very risky. If i'm playing with my friends, you will absolutely give away FB. In solo queue, if I know you're going to do such a start I can place a defensive ward around my second buff if I'm the jungler.

I honestly don't understand how you can have 3 buffs while I will only have 1... I can run over to take your second buff instead b/c by your reckoning people don't have map awareness or just step away and while you're doing my second buff, have my team collapse on you since with enough pings I'm sure my team will come to my rescue.