Talk:Riven/@comment-24663301-20150116181125/@comment-24896347-20150118090500

Its not about versing riven in lane, everyone knows she can be a pain in the ass in lane but she can easily be laned against thanks to her garbage sustain. Shen indeed does counter in lane, but what were talking about it teamfights. She can just go into a teamfight with her 800 shield, use w stun, q and ult and kill an ad carry instantly without any problems. cc does stop her, but if she gets a QSS shes practically unstoppable, she gets some lifesteal, QSS and thats it, she can all in while sustaining massive amounts of damage and freely get out of cc. For a mobile champion with so much damage she has cc which is completely stupid for such a bursty assassin like champion. Seriously, if they were going to nerf her, I would have not nerfed the hp regen, laning phase is not what needs nerfing for riven since she has many counters, its her teamfight. She can hit everyone with an execute ult and stun an entire team if done right. All in all, a champion that needs attention or else people are just gonna use her kit and easily win matches.