Talk:Jarvan IV/@comment-4717259-20120831152321/@comment-5442625-20120831194638

Both if ur snowballing in the jungle consider geting an early shurelias its gona make ganking much more easy and let u snowball even harder and ofc randuins is always good on bruisers maxing e is good for farming jungle mobs but q will give u more dmg during ganks  alsow keep in mind that q cd goes down with lvls but e doesnt.