Talk:Garen/@comment-26433263-20150924155138/@comment-4542190-20150926094345

Imho he is in a worse state than all of the Juggs currently. I check probuilds.net almost daily and he is the least played out of the 4. Also, he seems to be the least ban priority out of the 4 as well. He does get picked a lot when he isn't banned but hasn't such a high win-rate to say "he is OP- insta win" and the like. I think the above say something.

P.S. What would you think of the following change? While Courage is active, Perseverance can not be stopped by any damage source. If it is on cooldown, it immediately activates.

I think it would be nice since the nerf to Courage kinda ruined his early game. It wouldn't make him OP/imba since it would still be the strongest late game (when you level up Courage for more duration and passive starts to really do work).