Talk:Shen/@comment-193.170.68.14-20111221080323/@comment-3486816-20111224044758

^yes, the buffs should help his jungle. Hence the "currently". The buffs will definitely help, but I'm still skeptical. The main thing that made his old jungle good was his absolute lack of reliance on buffs along with his ability to jungle forever at full health, no questions asked, a perk he really only shared with Warwick. Now there are many junglers that never have to recall, and you're much more reliant on taking buffs just for the experience and gold. If you don't take blue on shen now (there's really no point to the buff), you fall way behind, whereas before you'd be relatively fine, allowing you to give it away as soon as possible.