Talk:Graves/Background/@comment-121.97.72.134-20120911022604/@comment-24.90.13.250-20121109011959

Tristana and Twitch aren't really underpowered, they just make a larger impact lategame. TF doesn't even count as a carry, but I can understand why. Ashe relies on CC to get her kills, but her damage is mediocre, however.

I agree that they nerfed his attack speed a bit too much, and what annoys me even more is that their excuse is that "he's a cowboy with a shotgun". At least they could balance it out with something else, like the ANON said, "damage". And unlike Tristana, who's a hypercarry, Graves isn't, he doesn't make too much of an impact lategame.