Talk:Sion/@comment-26539937-20150819045046/@comment-5955640-20150819232930

Hmm. Try having quints in LIfe steal or spell vamp and some yellow armor.

Master Yi is probably the only one I know for sure can continue going through his jungle as long as he has mana.

As far as mastery goes do you have all the jungle masteries? I remember when the jungle changed for the map rework it was briefly harder to live so I started taking forms of sustain to keep myself alive. Spell Vamp would go on Tahm while Master Yi, Sion, and Udyr get life steal instead.

If you go Tiger or Phoenix Udyr for the most part in the jungle I would suggest putting in more damage, attack speed, and penetration. I believe the neutral monsters have armor but they don't have magic resistance so you'll need something a little extra just to edge it out.

Turtle Udyr for the jungle will want the tankier setup that you mentioned just with a little of life steal so you can etch more health back (and you'll still want to be in the offensive tree).

Shyvana probably doesn't need spell vamp but for her I would just get health and health regen and attack speed and hybrid penetration. Go deep into the mastery tree for all the armor and damage blocking resistances while still getting feast.

For Sion get as much early health from runes and masteries as possible while also getting a lot of upfront damage like just basic AD and the hyrbid penetration mastery. Life steal should help but if you still having trouble take AD or AD pen quints instead.

Tahm Kench is quite new so I haven't gotten a fantastic feel for him in the jungle but what I know is that you can get full Spell vamp effect from Q so to make some good use of that get some scaling AP and AP pen to help that out. Have you learn the Q,W combo? You can of course swallow a target and spit them out dealing 20% of their health as damage so it's a good finisher and against the the rapters and the wolves it's a great bit of AOE. Note that Spell Vamp also applies to anything you Smite as well.

On that note you can always smite red for a good bit of health back and you don't have to commit to killing it at the time though you might as well depending on the situation.

That should help. Although as you said you don't have the economic accodations for more runes or an additional rune page so you'll have to wait awhile before you can use most of the information I gave you. Sorry.