Talk:Muramana/@comment-108.172.56.105-20121211021505/@comment-82.39.24.189-20121212090959

^ Clearly lying to each other. This "everyone" pre-facing is clearly bs since you've both just said polar opposites.

Come at it from why they're building it and provide the raw math or bugger off and stop telling us to do something cause everyone else does it :P