Talk:Graves/@comment-68.60.241.207-20120603161130/@comment-188.81.238.243-20120605230340

Carries are also not supposed to have a dash and be tanky as shit. Graves can get close and blast with Q, dash back with E and weaken them, use W as a slow and a disruptor, finish up with R, and BAM! dead carry, support couldn't even do anything for him and graves is safe. Have a Taric join the fun and suddently it's a free +60 armor/Mr, a heal and a stun.

Graves is not a typical AD carry, and he shouldn't be played as such.