Talk:Taliyah/@comment-34496327-20180204021507/@comment-34496327-20180207073820

Fair enough criticisms, Anadanament. You also wouldn't be the first with those suggestions with moving her passive onto her ultimate and then giving her a new passive. Very common suggestion during the PBE, it as you can see, has fallen on deaf ears. A passive that granted tenacity for a mage based on abilities used I think would be great.

GreenMoriyama, yeah that was a common suggestion with Taliyah during the PBE that also fell on deaf ears.

XenonTheStoic was very stubborn with Taliyah. It even took another rioter to make some changes like removing the mini channel lockout on her W. Friend of mine asked me if he was always like this during the PBE with his champions, I had to tell them "No, hes usually much more open to suggestions like with Tahm Kench or Azir".

It was never that she was starved for passives, she had plenty, but this is the one they settled on. As you both see the passive and ultimate came extremely late in her development. her ultimate was second to last thing fleshed out about her kit. The last thing? Her passive which was from unused boot enchantments (who remembers those?).

One of her earliest passives was the worked ground mechanic itself. Her Q, W and E would create worked ground but had empowered effects when used outside of worked ground, which is what everyone is familiar with her current Q. Her ultimate was much like a Rammus ultimate except it also briefly knocked people up (0.25 seconds) at a fairly frequent pace, while active it would also clean the ground of Worked Ground and prevent it from happening.

Another passive she had, and this is after Worked Ground being her passive, is she could put herself in a stone casket. While in the casket, she had almost no vision and would heal health and mana, had a long cooldown. If she was attacked while in the casket, it would stop and she would get stunned.

The next passive we know of, was one where she would rip a part of the wall out in order to empower auto attacks.

I only speak of such things, as I have spoken to Taliyah mains.