Talk:Riven/@comment-7633726-20130410032214/@comment-7434112-20130413210109

I say the shark hates teemo because teemo's poisonous :3.

When talking about the riven's you have faced,

1) We don't know if they are bad

2) They are new to riven

3) Just, plain... bad.

AP Yi seems to fit if there are squishy enemies to get the resets off, and his only harass is if his Q bounces off to the enemy laner which is not really that affective.

People freeze the lane in the middle-ish zone so that it is harder for jungler to gank. Pushing a lane is not only meant for making them go under thair tower, it makes last hitting harder for them, most mid laner's have relative difficulty in last hitting becuz of their low AA damage and such. Your saying that is the lane is pushed to the tower that riven can't do anything productive? A mid laner pushes to roam and get kills for the team. All the AD assasins have great wave clear in order to roam, and riven also has good wave clear potential. Also, riven can do something like farm wratihs during the time the lane is pushed and then come back when the lane pushes back (and it will most probably push back because of the turret killing the minions. I don't really know about item builds but s getting RoA really good on elise? And chalice would normally go for against an enemy AP imho. I would probably go for a Tear of the Goddess, turning it into a Muramana ( I heard something like the active procs on all the balls on her ulti) or Arch Angels for more defense as well as Seeker's for the armor and AP.

Finally, poke is nice on mid laners, but not always needed. Same with Fizz, as long as riven can burst the squishy mid laner, it all good.