Talk:Graves/@comment-7881237-20140920123718/@comment-8468980-20141107070601

"Graves has a REALLY good rebound if he loses lane, so as long as you can get a favorable fight in your hands he'll do well. Graves is probably one of the few champions I know and one of the only ADCs that can come back from a heavy loss and carry hard later in the game. He's also one of the few champs that can hard carry his team very well."

Graves isn't a particularly strong post laning ADC compared to Kog, Trist, Twitch, Vayne, or Jinx. His AA range is lower, and while he gets attack speed and a repositioning tool it's not as strong as what true late game carries get. These are things that really determine late game carrying power for ADCs. If you've seen a graves come back from a lost lane, his opponents were particularly not very good at capitalizing on weakness.