Talk:Riven/@comment-25359568-20150207021018/@comment-4834593-20150209201216

Just training. Best is to go into a custom game on your own and try to do it against minions. Autoattack then Q, and do it closer and closer together. At some point you'll see you dealt less damage, then you've used Q too fast. A bit slower than that and you'll notice you barely see anything apart from your Q, but it deals the damage of an autoattack + Q.

For the Q animation canceling (which is bigger in terms of speed increase), I hear it has something to do with clicking on the ground right after using it, but I can't do it myself. (except if it's as easy as me Q'ing not on the enemy but facing forward and Q'ing to my cursor, which I THINK is only to get more sticking power. I believe there's more to the Q animation canceling)

You can do similar things with your W, E, and R. After some practise I was able to REWQ without having to stop for anything. The R animation was broken by the dash, the W didn't have casting time because I cast it while dashing (you have to E then W very short after one another), and the Q came immdiately afterwards. I haven't worked on it enough to use it in actual games though.

Oh, with wall-hopping, those are the broader hoppable walls: You can hop from wraiths (razorbeaks now, I guess) in the river direction or the other way around, there is one place (a bit to the Razorbeak side) at the Dragon and Baron pit where you can jump over it, and there's a small spot between the base gate and red buff where you can actually jump over, though that one is so hard even people like BoxBox don't always manage them. I believe I managed it twice in 10 minutes trying.