Talk:Draven/@comment-4888212-20130104131113/@comment-2.80.209.219-20130106212426

and at second annon it can also be nice in a teamfight applying 2 cleaver stacks to most of the enemy team with a early ult, specialy if your team as alot of AoE physical damage(IE Shyvana's Q while in dragonform a Lee ult that hits multiple targets, but overall the best example can be Wukong's ultimate mostly because it's the easier of all to land and provides the CC your team needs) altough in Wukong's case he will get a cleaver sooner or later.