Talk:Zac/Strategy/@comment-7923096-20130407161119

I don t really like ap on zac. He has bad ratios but he has high base dmg & low cd. I think it s better to get mrpen & cdr than ap as you'll do sustained true dmg to carries. So i disagree with ap quints/glyphs. Try mrpen quint/hp (flat @18 or %) quint / mr@18 glyphs / arm@18 seals / hp (flat, @18 or %) seals. In terms of build, ofc all items (except the core) are situational. If the ennemy team is balanced in dmg/heals/cc, i run : sor's boots, sunfire, landry, rylai, abyscal scepter, spirit visage. At the end of the game you have ~160 arm & ~150 mr (at least), 3k8 hp, ~70 mr pen (true dmg on a carry with banshee), 40 dmg/sec + slow/dot. W deals a total of 15% maxhp (+100) dmg, Q 300 dmg. Against heavy ad dmg i get randuin's in place of rylai & get exhaust rather than ignite/tp (& if really ultra heavy ad team, i get thornmail in place of spirit visage). If against a heavy ap team, replace rylai by bulwark & get warmog rather than sunfire. For boots, i mostly go for sor's boots unless ennemy team use a lot of AA (tabi ninja) or several hard CC (possibly spammable cc) (merc's).

Don t forget that R gives you ~70% tenacity (if you use it well you can jump into lux's Q,E combo & feel just a "lag") so tenacity isn t actually my priority. To kill Zac, a slow is rather useless if the team doens t have hard cc (due to E). So, a stun of 1.5 sec or a stun of 0.5 sec+ 15%slow/2sec duration (=rylai) are both deadly to Zac when you chase him. In team fights, while Zac use his ulti, cc'ing him (unless it s a suppression) is useless ; but, after the ulti is finished the cc have already been used on ur offtank ad/ap and/or your carries so Zac doesn t need to fear them anymore and can deal dmg rather and flee at any moment with E. To sum it up, unless there s spammable hard cc (i.e riven's W/udyr's E/Leona's Q) or suppression (which is not countered by tenacity), Zac doens t fear cc & they hinder him only when he engage with E or when he flee with E.

I think it s all i can think about right now CU & glhf