Talk:Ivern/@comment-7095057-20161007024230

So playing a few games against this guy as an ADC player.. .Cait absolutely wrecks this guy's kit, and champs like nidalee and Shaco can really mess with him too. Akali even works as a decent counter. Ivern's biggest advantage to his team of being able to put bushes where he wants and hiding his team. However Cait's traps essentially turn Ivern's bushes into a death trap.... Ivern puts a bush down? Cait traps it. I got a penta yesterday due to this in a 2v5 because Ivern bushed to help his team get closer and I just trapped the bushes and pot shot the people that got in.

Nid has similar traps.

Akali's W can reveal bushes.

Shaco can do what Cait does, throw a box in a bush.