Talk:Riven/@comment-60.241.125.152-20121030210327/@comment-70.251.121.85-20121102010906

^ riven does not beat jayce reneketon or jax.

Jayce has free poke on riven thats a given because hes ranged. yes riven has mini dashes to counter his knock back but is only when jayce starts the fight. riven has to spend at least two dashes just to get in range of jayce to initiate. afterwards u get some damage off but he will just knock you back, u will have two dashes left to get back into range but if hes running the most u might get if the knockup. afterwards he has full control of the fight as all of your skills will be down.

Renekton free food? Renekton destroys riven the moment he hits 3. He hits just as hard as her but has sustain with his Q which is ultimately what decides the lane. This match will end with you testing your ability to farm under tower.

The same applies to Jax the moment he hits 3. it gets even worse at lvl 6. at 3 Jax's E will prevent you from doing your combo as your autoattacks will be useless. if he starts the fight, he will Q in, auto attack followed by W for the attack reset. you will either burst with W on reaction and start ur own combo or run. if u choose to fight he hits E and u lose half ur combo. not to meantion jax has a higher base att and health which will give him a large advantage everytime u decide to trade post 3.