Talk:Vayne/@comment-5489694-20140124231536/@comment-5489694-20140203174031

That leads to you losing the lane more often than not. You should max Q and you'll win trades regardless of whether W is on or off. I'm fairly certain that the majority of Kog 'guides' say to max W 1st and honestly it's a weak way play. I think pretty much everyone maxes W 1st on Kog and just sit around letting their opponent beat them.

W's only good for it's range in a lane phase and 1 point in it allows you to heavily out range all but 3-4 other champions usually seen in duo lanes. Q provides burst damage, ranged harass, passive stats and shreds resistances (both of which are more noticable early than later). Q is 20x better than W early game and W is better than Q past lvl 11 but people still max W 1st >.>