Forum talk:Neekerivittu/@comment-142.76.1.62-20121109163700/@comment-69.141.8.150-20121112203533

"Well hating garen should not be the reason"

Who said anything about hating Garen? People dislike Garen's ultimate because aside from CD reduction, it benefits from nothing else a typical Garen player would buy. This won't be changed because the rest of Garen's kit is frankly pretty awesome, I don't always take Morello's word at face value but any time he responds to complaints about Garen's ult, he usually responds by mentioning that Garen doesn't even need the ultimate.

"His ult is more like a initiator than a finisher."

Initiate with ult and players will simply escape with 1/2 or more hp. Zed has very little sticking power since he has no stun, no silence, and no root.

Meanwhile, if you poke and harass your opponent down to 1/3 with your spells then you can pop your ult and nuke them down for a kill.