Talk:Ryze/@comment-82.27.55.69-20130127144153/@comment-186.52.76.36-20130201160634

In response to the cat above me, you shouldn't get neither of both items before you have at least 660 stacks in the tear of godess, this is due to the amount of early items ryze can get that give a lot of mana and durability for a cheap price. And still imo its better to take seraphs's embrace first, since it will give you tons of ap and an OP shield