Talk:Xin Zhao/@comment-3486816-20110528015602

so without any defensive items/masteries/runes at level 18 if he hits 5 champs with his ult he has 142.5 mr and 172.8 armor for 6 seconds... I still don't buy the "dies too fast in teamfights" thing. All he has to do is wait till you're slightly clustered. If you try to kite him for that duration, he'll kill 2 people on your team. If you try to kill him for that duration, you'll deal 42% of your magic damage (assuming he's too stupid to get wit's end) and 37% of your physical damage (assuming he's too stupid to get atma's/madred's), and he'll kill 2 people on your team. And he kills you in lane like few others. Why do they keep buffing him...

2 things: Any counters that work well, especially in lane? and what kind of damage does the bonus from his q do?