Talk:Darius/@comment-25532677-20150415151524/@comment-6061249-20150415175054

If you are still not convinced, imagine someone playing Blitzcrank as a ADC peel.

He would pull enemies onto their ADCs face as a method of peel.

Pull them closer to the ADC as a method of peel.

Closer to ADC, peel.

Or an Alistar, peeling for his ADC by headbutting enemies straight onto the face.

Peeling, by forcing enemies to come closer.

How much sense does it make? None, and is obviously an absurd idea.

Now, why would you do that as Darius? Does it suddenly make sense compared to Blitzcrank's pull service or Alistar's "i'm helping" Headbutt? Why do people think it makes any sense?

Maybe you want to pull enemies away from your ADC? Sounds okay, but now imagine what kind of positioning would you have to manage. Standing behind your ADC just to be ready for a pull is basically making the teamfight 4v5, standing in front of them to pull back onto frontline... You are in the backline. You can't be in both frontline and backline, unless you're goddamn Shaco.

Even if you manage to pull an assassin away from your ADC into a comfortable place, you have a MS slow to stop them from jumping back again, and no damage to kill them because you decided to become a backline tank. This 10/0 Zed is definitely going to give any f*cks about that.

Seriously, try out engaging on enemies or ambushing them instead. Engaging sounds like "oh god im gonna get kited so bad", except it's safe as hell. Enemies will either run in panic or do what you want to be done - begin a teamfight. If they run, they might blow their flashes to escape. Your engage did not begin a fight, but it wasted a bunch of flashes, that is a goddamn success. Anyone who didn't flash away gets pulled right onto your team. Free kills - checked. Learn the pull range very carefully so you can pick up single targets even if enemies stick together close.

If you ambush them, there are two ways to go - either the enemy team will try to take you down, and you will sacrifice yourself without doing a lot of damage, but you set up a free clear for your teammates. Being full tank doesn't matter as you will die in this case anyway, another reason to get some damage. Why? Because there is the second possibility - enemies will rush onto your teammates. Then you are left alone ON THEIR BACKLINE. WITH A PULL THAT CAN'T BE DENIED ONCE IN RANGE. You might as well get a free pentakill if the luck allows to.

Source: as mentioned many, many times before, i reached 60% win rate at diamond as Darius going AD offtank with RG, currently having 53W/35L.