Talk:Shyvana/@comment-6582248-20150117071900/@comment-15244341-20150119174742

Shyvana is pretty strong. She is definitely a good pick top lane. Her issues lie in that what she does (initiation, tanking and ok damage) is done better by other picks. Off the top of my head, Gnar and Sion (which I believe is in a pretty good spot) are better tanks and initiators than her, since they have follow-up crowd control (and in Gnar's case it's pretty much as good as it gets for AoE CC). Gnar deals pretty much more damage than Shyv and while Sion definitely doesn't he is a tank with infinite health scaling and a huge shield.

Also, she actually does pretty poorly against the better ranged top laners. Lissandra, Jayce and Gnar just beat her in lane unless they misplay. She is pretty damn easy to kite if her ult was used up, and that is pretty much the #1 prerrequisite for a ranged top laner to be viable.

Jax is fine too. He just loses pretty hard vs some matchups like Irelia now, which make him a bit riskier to pick.