Talk:Gragas/@comment-72.89.177.159-20120713222918/@comment-80.15.143.26-20120719135609

what's the issue with that?

look at nunu, i play him jungle and with CDR he can perma slow for 60% with Q

and just kindlegem + ionian and the masteires / runes are enough i usually hit 40% CDR on him before being able to max  ice ball thingy.

it wouldn't make him broken, if you let gragas constantly hit your AD carry with barrel's there's  something wrong.