Talk:Nautilus/@comment-3578129-20150118131137/@comment-5266525-20150120200629

@Danz - A perfect initiation is also much harder to pull off than merely wading in and hitting people to snare them. You'd HAVE to do that to justify calling Nautilus' teamfighting inferior, so there's an element of reliability involved as well. Incidentally, you can't avoid getting hit by Depth Charge unlike Amumu/Sej's ults so he punishes being out of position harder than any other tank.

@YPN - I'm curious to hear how you can kill all six camps in your jungle with presumably reasonable health remaining when I can't even do a basic Gromp - Blue - Red path with 3/4 of my health despite an extra 200-ish HP from my biscuits.