Talk:Riven/@comment-5077844-20141102214444/@comment-4834593-20141105162018

If EVERY champion is like that, no it's not bad design. It's the most interesting way of designing a game. If some champions are like that, then yeah, it's different. But in my opinion, it's how every champion should be.

And... You really want to remove her E? If you use an EQ combo, you BARELY get into range like you do with most dashes. Considering the long animation times from your Q, you're not going to get in range from average dash range (slightly less than Vayne's or Ryze's range) to hitting your enemy without using over half of your damage abilities (three Q's) if your enemy doesn't want it. Removing that dash would make Riven a sitting duck against any ranged laner that is silver or higher. Like, Yorick-without-sustain level sitting duck.

In fact, I would prefer removing the shield, adding some of her abysmally low health regen (like wtf Riot, that was her form of sustain, like Irelia has her W, Yorick his E, Olaf his W, etc. etc. etc.), and leaving the dash right there. And the AoE buff is BARELY noticable in distance traveled. If it's even there. I can only be sure about the damage range increase.

I would also like to point out that Riven is one of the VERY few champions that cannot deal damage OR cc above around 300 range, except with her ultimate, which is an execute (and therefore requires damage to be dealt beforehand). Combine that with a total dash range barely higher than from, for example, Renekton, but with about four times as much animation time, and you can see her weakness. If you keep your distance, you can't catch her. When I'm playing against a competent Caitlyn or Ryze, I CANNOT get into range to do anything without burning my flash.