Talk:Jarvan IV/@comment-3514681-20120121192055/@comment-3532889-20120125181818

for every person who flashes out of Jarvan's ult, there are a good many that can't, who have to eat the whole duration of the trap. as a frequent Jarvan player, I merely understand that in order to get the most effect out of jarvan's ult, you do one of two things: you can initiate with it, and use it for the sole purpose of wasting flashes and killing the opponents positioning. the other option; generally used in laning and small skirmishes. is that you wait for them to blow their flashes before you go in. Jarvan's knockup + W combo can be just about as deadly, and if your opponent feels threatened enough, then they'll use their flash. If they do that, THEN you can ult them for an almost guaranteed kill.

Jarvan is one of the very few champs with a form of impassable terrain, and the only tank with it. Situational? yes, but so is every single other ability in the game, and I'd much rather see jarvan keep his which has unique functions totally unlike any others.