Talk:Graves/@comment-88.102.160.74-20120701201234/@comment-4878039-20120708210524

Graves has a nice steroid, some nukes that become rather insignificant late game but are crazy good early on, a vision blocker and a mediocre attack range. He sure isn't OP after all the nerfs he's received in pretty much his entire kit (and range). His mobility isn't really high, he has quite a low base MS and the E dash is short as hell, meaning you can only go over the thinnest walls (like the ones at the river), I mean, it's something, but not much. That's not to say he isn't top tier.