Talk:Riven/@comment-10928398-20130929072706/@comment-4834593-20131005155314

Maxing W over Q isn't a good idea I think. Q is just so much damage, if you either force him to spin away, or save your E (and maybe W), it's 100% safe. If you can't get to him with just a Q because he's not letting that happen, you just zone him, and win lane too.