Talk:VPBE/@comment-36072697-20190814054601/@comment-28035204-20190816021923

The reason why he "lost" damage on his E is because it has more ticks on all levels. First thing you thought about is Triforce, while i immediately thought about Guinsoo since he will gain max stacks in no time, which means more ticks and more on hits for days. In combination with Wits End he can become a menace (it halves on hit damage, not on hit effects). Yes, he needs more ticks, but that's because he has more of them now so he'll shred armor at around the same time. As for true damage loss... yeah not happening against your lane opponent anyway since killing Garen doesn't add to Villain counter.

His regen is better at all levels exept 11 and it has lower cd in laning stage when it's most usefull. Just because it opens possibility to play jungle doesn't mean it's a nerf to top Garen. It's more likely to allow him to do Krugs/Gromp while getting some regen in a proccess (cause if i wanted rushdown jungler i'd pick Shyvana or Udyr over him any day).

His MAX tankiness isn't reached slower. If it's 0,25 per stack with max 30, it takes 120, not 160 units like it says. These bonuses were added in a first place to pull Garen out of dumpster tier by giving him tankiness. If these changes go trough i guarantee you they will either change or replace this with something else. As for cd, yeah that's the only direct nerf.

Ult always being a true damage isn't just "nice". Currently it marks someone on the other side of the map (unless your lane opponent roam for whatever reason in which case you won't be able to kill him anyway). Add Nulifying Orb, magic shields or damage reductions and this magic damage quickly becomes a problem. In late game even when someone buys Banshee or Malmortius to counter enemy mid they indirectly counter you as well (unless they are marked). Making it true damage means you can't just itemize around it. Garen's ultimate is supposed to be a killswitch. And it is... 20% of the time.

Though honestly there's no reason to be upset since we don't know when or even if these changes leave PBE.