Talk:Ivern/@comment-38719986-20190322181632/@comment-38907685-20190408200436

He is so specifically wired to the jungle that he is almost useless in lane. Its not like kindred, who can, when shes in a good place, be adc and toplaner too. Granted he can help with invades, or give a buff 2 the jungler or the carry and take it himself, but you are gonna loose time. Supports in league do not leave their carry, or should as least as possible. Thats what they do in professional games, and im sure they know the best way to win (And im pretty sure half of all pro teams have already experimented with something like this, their always looking for new meta plays)

Ivern is indeed a roaming support, or jungle support, the first one in league really.

In dota 2 two supports is normal, one who roams (farm camps or sets them up for the carries and ganks the lanes) and one who sticks to the carry. Its alot more of a fluid play style that is more flexible. But we all know how popular support is in league, so well probably stick with the at least 3 carries and a tank or maybe even 4 carries meta we have..