Talk:Graves/@comment-27218982-20160220001930/@comment-26203093-20160220221356

eh - he's the most brute force of the adcs. he's still got the same vulnerabilities, though, but shorter range, so if you've got the cc your team SHOULD have. no, not really. If you've only got fighters on your team trying to be the hero, graves just outscales them as an adc should, and is still durable.