Talk:Vel'Koz/@comment-9048637-20151108223258/@comment-9008617-20151124184612

The discussion wasn't going anywhere because everytime I deconstruct your argument you turn tail.

I'm sure when I got frustrated with you avoiding the questions or trying to turn the tables and accuse me of the what I had already explained was illogical in your points that I definitely came off as a dick. But look, we're all human and we all have our limits of how much bs we can take ranging from the erroneous use of the word "cumulative" to snake oil pitch (i.e. 10% cdr =/= 10% cdr).

What you may have perceived as ad hominem attacks were really more challenging the credibility of your experience since your arguments have mostly been from either your experience (i.e. I don't have any problems with going out of mana - that's an edge case, I find I do more dmg with CDR/MPEN, etc) or poorly constructed impossible hypotheticals. If you're going to make your case based on your experiences and your experiences alone then it's important to know what these experiences are based on. I'm not saying because I outrank you that you should only listen to me but similarly if a bronze v player tells you that AD velkoz is OP you'd take that with a cubic meter of salt.

Like I said in my last post, I never said that pros don't use scaling runes and even linked and posted that they use up to 15% in scaling cdr but then you created the strawman argument suggesting that I had said otherwise - and that shit gets tiring.

In time, when you've cooled down I'm open to you returning and replying to the points I made. To be honest though, having this discussion in reddit would be a lot easier to follow.

Pce