Talk:Elise/@comment-4450834-20121027140154/@comment-109.182.26.175-20121028063855

Yes, spider damage scales well with AP and I said as much. I never said you shouldn't build AP on her.

No, I don't want a 1.0 ratio on a 6 CD spell, but considering Annie for example has 0.7 sclaing on a 4s CD spell, I still think that the 0.2 scaling you get from Elise is low. That doesn't mean her Q is bad, afterall it scales really well withenemy health. It just means that her Q scales like shit with AP.

Though I should clarify that when I said she shuould be built like a bruiser I meant AP bruiser. Sorry for not making it clear. The idea I failed to put across is that she needs some suvivability as well as utility items that help her spiderlings to do damage.

And as for the heal scaling with AP, it does. It has a 0.02 ratio, but that's per spiderling and Elise, so with 5 spiderlings + Elise it's 1.2 scaling. With 2 spiderling it's only 0.6 though.

In general it's interesting to note that Elise's scaling itself scales with enemy health and her ultimate (more spiders, more scaling). Lategame Elise scales about twice as well with AP as early game Elise, which leads me to believe it might be better to first build some defense and utility and save the big AP items for mid- and lategame.