Talk:Volibear/@comment-11013454-20160124161900/@comment-11013454-20160124170020

I wonder though.

Because when I get cinderhulk these days the bonus HP doesn't really get more than about 300hp, according to it's tooltip and thats lategame after i've had to get a whole load of other items to make it worth. Theoretically speaking I could be doing more damage with devourer just by ulting and getting more procs off, plus sunfire gives me armour earlier too, which cinderhulk doesn't and sort of compensates with 'more hp', which. if you take damage calculations into account, probably doesn't compesnate as much as it should.

Cinderhulk just seems a little weaker. I remember it being pretty strong when it first hit the scene but it's been knocked that time back.