Talk:Riven/@comment-4934699-20130812001159/@comment-4760419-20130812004458

Not true. Well partially, but not fully true. Riven's power actually comes from her passive and not her abilities. First off, to start out a chase, use your Q's right after you E for maximum chase speed. Also, be aware of your stun range - it is bigger if you have your ult activated.

Secondly, as I mentioned, her damage comes from her auto attacks. You claim that you waste potential damage by chasing with your Q, but have you considered the fact that by using your Q 3 times, you also get three stacks on your passive? As soon as you get in range, you have the ability to deal huge amounts of damage just by autoattacking and not relying on your abilites.

People often forget to make full use of the passive stacks which is a shame. Her full combo is not EQQQW. It is EQ-AA-W-AA-Q-AA-Q-AA (activate ult before and finish off after full combo).

This is also the reason that Riven doesn't necessarily need to start by maxing her Q. For poke harass you can max W first and still deal tons of damage since 3 Q's gives 3 stacks for auto attacks no matter what you max first. Or even max E for the cooldown and against very pokey champions.

TL;DR Riven relies on her auto attacks and passive stack - not only her abilities.