Talk:Lissandra/@comment-9008617-20130503213021/@comment-9008617-20130504013359

And then...

1. 725 range + the extra ~550 range from shattered shards for ~1200 range is short now? Didn't realize that 1050 range on her E required Liss to "go all in" either.

2. It's more like 300 range and not "melee". Sure it's not 1050 range but it's AoE, no aim, 6 sec CD.

3. Unless the enemies are CC'ed? We're speaking about Liss right? Liss already brings 3 forms of CC to the party (slow, snare/root, stun). And since it's usually a TEAM game, chances are the other champs CC'ed or not will have a hard enough time dodging such a wide skillshot during a teamfight especially if the claw is INVISIBLE coming from a bush.

High CD on W and E, sure. 6 sec CD on her Lv 1 Q is hardly considered high. The ult CD is also rather low for the utility it brings.

Champs who can't use their whole roster of skills (exempting Ult) every 7 seconds with max CDR: Viktor (gravity field), Anivia (crystallize), Elise (rappel), Karthus (wall of pain), Malzahar (null zone), Vlad (sanguine pool).

Point being, she has low CD maybe not early game (except Q) but definitely late game.

The bigger issue is that most mages only bring one or two CC to their team... Liss brings 3 with low CD.