Talk:Swain/@comment-26913771-20160505174640/@comment-25447003-20160506015626

@   Sanitiy : In theory the Gunblade is good for Swain, but how can he rush it early (as first big item) instead of RoA? The spell vamp of Revolver has been removed, and even with new mana items Swain is easy to run OOM.

But the point about the slow is correct, and it's more critical now that his new Q is more difficult to slow the target than before. That's the point where he can land W/Q and follow-up by R or gank. Too bad it's weaker than before, not to mentioned the AP of his 2 items (RoA, Zhonya) is chunked down 50AP.

People just think his Q dmg higher, but not notice how the CD is significant increased (8s -> 14s). Low CD is the key to make plays, and it's true for many mages as well.

For example Orianna's kit seems "defensive" but how did her damage in actual game is quite high? Because the low CD of Q, and real AoE dmg (Swain's new Q is multi-target not AoE). Once Orianna lands her Q it's very easy to follow with W or R, so if the CD of it increased 75% (like 5.5s at max rank) and the Q dmg increased 20%, it's still a nerf.

Theorycrafting may become a noob trap if people don't experience the relevancy of the abilities in real games. For instance, at first glance Soraka's R it's a "counter" of Karthus's R, but in actual matches Soraka is not a "counter" of Karthus.