Talk:Shyvana/@comment-109.131.69.180-20130119230615/@comment-88.186.19.90-20130122160913

You never actually tried to counterjungle with her, have you?

I beat lee-sin in duels, and since the new jungle actually brings you more gold than before going for double-golems/wolves is actually cost-effective now.

steal big wraith->Smiteless steal red with team help->blue buff->wolves->wraith->Golems->red buff->buy razor+boots->steal enemy Wraith->steal enemy golems->gank bot->wolves->own Wraith->own golems. Anything that starts at blue buff cannot win a duel with you until they get level 6, and you clear camps so fast health isn't an issue.