Talk:Veigar/@comment-173.19.179.205-20120105082113/@comment-77.7.157.170-20120110200635

Actually i think veigar can be far more useful then sion and nasus with low stacked q(e). His stun is amazing and his ulti deals even without ap a lot dmg. Sion only with atmas? If he is ap sion, u also have to consider that he lvld q and w first. Stacking more then 300 hp with e in 1 game is rare, so changing ur build to ad is no option. Ap sion only has two skills skaling ap while veig has 3, not to mention sions then almost useless r. Then there is ad sion who is e reliant. Lets see, why people wont play him? Cause his early is far weaker then ap. He then has similiar problems like veigar. U could almost say ap sion and ad sion are different champs. But what happens if sion fails with his stacking? Well he may buy tank items and become a useless tanky bug with short ranged stun and without dmg or he buys some ad instead and is bursted in 2 sec from full to 0, without doing anything at all. U get my point? I even saw a veigar support starting with a kages into dfg, then tried it myself with a mate and was like WTF! it kicks asses. Veigar does not only scale with ap but with levels,skill and team composition. His q has a low cd with high base dmg, his w too. And his e is like people mentioned a game breaker. Chars with gamebreakers are always strong late.