Talk:Riven/@comment-4964269-20130202141412/@comment-4964269-20130204112359

nobody maxes W anymore, and if they do, they dont do it for the damage. after the nerfs to it there is absolutely no reason to max it out first. the last sentence on point one tells you why the additional cooldown on it isnt all that great.

1. I don't care about nerfs, seriously I don't.

2. I am honestly a new Riven player, but maxing out Q first is dumb. Yes, Q has more damage than W, but that is assuming someone is dumb enough to let you hit them with 3-full dashes. In scenarios against a Garen or a Darius, maxing W and/or E will benefit me during the laning phase. However, champions like Zed and GP, yes they are easy to harass, but anyone with a brain isn't going to let a Riven unlesh a full combo or even have her come close. I prefer to spam skills on Riven and survive rather than bully and scare someone away.

Yes, I have seen BestRivenNA max out Q first, but that is different. He has different preferences and so do I.