Talk:Orianna/@comment-24606304-20150123011831/@comment-24606304-20150206025706

I obviously see the merits of going chalice into athene's against AP mids, but what do you do for extra cd/mana? I always seem to run oom when I run just chalice (can't count on getting all the blues in solo q).

Completely agreed on the idol-->armguard-->zhonyas rush against ad mids tho- I usually get a quick tear sometim in between armguard and zhonyas when I back.