Talk:Rengar/@comment-3460935-20161028020713/@comment-4091261-20161103170819

That may be true, but I've faced against Challenger level players because the ranked system is broken over there to the point that bronze players can face Challengers. And I can say that without a doubt, they don't even try to duel a juggernaut without at least a or a.

If you want to argue with raw facts. The raw fact is that lost an incredibly powerful  boost,  lost its /,  has ridiculously low  per level, and  needs to get kills on each individual to compensate for that loss in base. What it all cullminates to is that will simply just not be able to duel like he used to early on. He lost factors on all levels and if the enemies have enough to survive his burst and enough power to wreck his lifesteal, he will not be able to do anything to enemy champions.

Those are the facts. This point is further exacerbated with how he cannot flee as easily as before with his. can circumvent this issue due to his ability to splitpush safely with his massive parkour flexibility. has enough CC to lock enemies down. actually goes invisible with his stealth. There are other assassins that cannot handle the matter in the same poor manner as, but that means that is lumped alongside them instead of those who can overcome. That is not top tier.