Talk:Vi/@comment-25912163-20150406105334

im ok with her ult. i hate her w. i would rather give her vayne w than her current one. especially if you go warrior enchantment (tho cinderhulk is perfectly viable as well) it deals more damage than vayne w, it decreases enemy armor for future strikes, and it gives her 50% as. have you ever seen such an overloaded passive? also it causes her to be able to build full tank and still be a tank buster. yes she is somewhat easy to kite because she has no way of following after her ult (oh wait you can get triforce+furor boots but whatever) but with ult aa e q combo, she is guaranteed to proc it at least once, with no counterplay.

meanwhile i think her ult should stay the way it is. yes it does not have any counterplay, but it is not meant to have any either. i think she was designed like a semi assasin but ended up so much better as a bruiser/tank (kinda like how irelia was meant to be a mid champ and became a monster in top lane)