Talk:Lucian/@comment-3546228-20150905002242

Man, I'm so glad that Riot is finally realizing how unfair of an opponent is. Before nerfs Lucian was the prime counter in lane - he could trade early, pressure and if he kills he can then kill over and over. Vayne can dodge his Q sure, but she can dodge as well and we don't see her picked as a Graves counter. Right now I wouldn't pick Lucian against Vayne, or any other champion except for Tristana. Tristana right now is just the top pick for ADCs and it's so annoying that she can do everything.

We need Lucian's old range back as well as his old passive back. I don't care about how useless his W is now or how slowly his Q ramps up compared to other ADC power spikes. I just want him to match up against the medium range ADCs for the very least. That's how Lucian feels to me and the 500 range just feels redunant.