Talk:Vayne/@comment-8969250-20151008173331/@comment-26203093-20151015211123

Kalista has the exact same issues you're talking about here. She doesn't trade better vs other adc with a hurricane. That's clearly not the purpose of hurricane. A draven is still going to knock her down just as easily as kog one on one. Calling it burst when it requires stacking is also pretty false advertisement. It can actually end up doing no damage at all on the additional targets because she's had to start kiting and the rend wears off on the others.

until she has that last whisper - which tends to be late anyway, it simply does less damage. and because there is less MR per level for all champions, kog'maws W stays relevant for longer. So sure, he doesn't benefit from a penetration item - but it also means he doesn't need it as soon as she does and building vs one damage type, doesn't counter the other.

Sure I've had those 1k rends. Usually happens after 15 full seconds of kiting. hardly the burstiest. Then again, that's not the point of kalista.

And I've seen the playpatterns of the pros. They build the way they do for the reasons you say. I just don't think they're very good reasons when you could get more out of a champion and a setup. But they generally pick and build as self-sufficiently as possible because they don't ever want to deal with falling behind at all.