Talk:Ashe/@comment-24496127-20160629201834/@comment-26203093-20160704180917

The main problem is she's still not self-sufficient with her utility, and if you put all the stock in her utility, when she still needs other people's utility to survive, it begs the question of who the hell is supposed to be dealing the damage. If you're already aiming to put all your eggs in one basket, which you need to when you have an immobile non-burst, non-max range adc, why have ashe be the basket when you can get hyper carries like twitch, jinx, or kog'maw?

If she doesn't have the damage she does, more weight will have to be put in the utility, which changes the venn diagram for where she fits, and basically turns her into a late-game scaling support, and has slows that end up probably being more frustrating than fair. It could very well turn her into ranged ekko, where she suddenly doesn't fill her role as an ADC - like ekko doesn't actually fill the role of an assassin - but heavy cc bot where you actually go elsewhere for the damage.