Talk:Ashe/@comment-25223119-20150323103639/@comment-24693081-20150328133740

the sure crit passive with statick shiv is stronger. in my eyes. and out dualing strong adc all depence on who gets the first jump on each other. some just have a better way to counter it. vaynes E or invise or  ash ult are great for that. there are others that have lesser abilitys to counter it. Mf for example have a bad kit for countering ambush from long ranged enemy`s like cait kogmaw and such. while vayne have a better chance  agianst them with her ult tumble. or ash with her stun.

2 adc who are squisy can easely shred each other. the point is who can do it first. thats why wards are op. you can expect the un expected.