User blog comment:Sagee Prime/Nidalee rework Final/@comment-4881935-20121003012150/@comment-4881935-20121004075544

So i misunderstood her primal surge, even so, it still have 60% uptime for Nidalee with no cooldown and up to 100% with cooldown, granting her 35% passive attack speed and 70% bonus attack speed and 20% damage to health recover, and can buff her team. Still too good for what it does even if it's not an aura. Comparing with an actual AD carry, Trish's or Graves' steroid, this completely out class theirs by far in so many different aspect.

About that stupid quick idea. Words were hidden because they extended past the side (didn't realize that). The things you missed was that the damage on the trap is supposed to be over 6 seconds, and swipe is just deals damage in a cone and reduces armor/magic resist. Not much, but if I was to do something like a rework for her, there would be a lot more adjusting beyond those two skills.

-.- I spent like 5 minutes before I finally realize how you knew about my birthday. Haha, what are the chances?

I just gave you a scenario where she can grab max cooldown without even having to sacrifice damage for it. Nothing prevents her from grabbing offensive items outside of AP or support. Where is this reason that prevents her from grabbing AD alongside with Athen's item. And I'm not talking about early-mid game. No champion in the game with mana can keep on spamming their spells endlessly. This only applies to the late game, which only requires one item to make it viable.

I can give you a build order right here that is as strong as any AD carry build thanks to all her free stats.

Starts boots > chalice and BF sword (order does not matter)> Get IE > tier two boots > zeal > Athen and Last Whisper (order does not matter) > PD > defensive items

Oh look, I don't need life steal or anything because I already get natural life steal that works for all damage. And look, I managed athen in my build and am not losing that much damage because I have such great AP ratios overall that I can still make use of it.

And even then, with all your new AP scaling you added, AP isn't even that bad for her. Seriously, your only argument for most of these stuff buffs is the fact that in order to really really excel at one field, you have to neglect doing excelling at one other field because she's just too good at so many other things.

Seriously, I had to make a hyperbole example for this for how broken your Nidalee is. Imagine Zyra when she was released (before she was nerf), and let's say her W increase her attack speed by 20/30/40/50/60% attack speed for each seed she had out on the field (they count as seeds while transformed). So she can gain up to 120% attack speed bonus if she use both her seeds. Also, let's say her ultimate passively granted on-hit bonus true damage equal to her 20% of her total AD.

Would you consider that OP? WOuld you consider an AP Zyra OP or a AD Zyra OP? Well, based on how you keep on defending Nidalee, I can use your logic of defense and say, going AP will make Zyra AD side worthless, and going AD will make Zyra AP side worthless. Therefore, she's balance.

You might counter by saying, but your AP nidalee isn't that strong, but I will counter saying, that is completely false after all those AP scaling buff on abilities (especially cougar form), 20% AP scaling oh-hit buff, and that double penetration buff. Her AP build is just as viable compare to her AD. Heck, unlike my example, going hybrid is even as viable since she has soon many hybrid scaling now. You barely are losing anything if you build any path.

And this is ignoring your team buff ability, your enemy resistance debuff, your traps for visions, high mobility, and two stagger effects. All of this and the only two nerfs you did were, lost of a burst heal, and lost of damage on her spear toss at close range.

And yet, you keep on using this same logic as your excuse of why she's balance.