Talk:Nocturne/@comment-5259099-20130425124204/@comment-4019444-20130509135352

He's strong, yes. But, like stated above, he does have to be ahead and outside of damage he doesn't do much else. I have a post in a lower part of this page, but I'll quote it here:

"As a jungler, Nocturne is strong. Against the top jungler picks right now, he suffers greatly. You'll notice in the three you listed that their pre-six ganks are extremely reliable and powerful. Vi can lead in with her Q and knock back her target, cancelling any channels (such as recall). Along with that, her R can lock down any target the team wants. Xin Zhao has his E which is fast and deadly. His Q will continue to lock down the target. Jarvan can lead with his Q+E combo and knock up any targets along the way and trap opponents with his R. Nocturne? Pre-six, he relies on Q to speed up to his target (and he must land Q on an enemy to maintain that speed boost) and his E takes a while to take effect along with the fact that the duration has to be leveled up for full effect. The only thing Nocturne has going for him is his R, which is on a hideous cooldown early on.

TL;DR: Nocturne's jungling capabilities pale in comparison to the three listed."

Now, Xin, Jarvan and Vi were the top picks (and they were nerfed, granted) when I said that but it still has some weight even today and the point remains the same, there are other champs who do jungling and killing like Nocturne but they also have other things going for them. Riot is making better and better fighters who can jungle these days and they are overshadowing Nocturne.