Talk:LeBlanc/@comment-95.180.26.109-20111119210204/@comment-3165723-20111205095227

Sorry neon, i literally are you fucking kidding me faced at you saying brand does to an entire team what leblanc does to a single target. that's just false, not only does he not put out nearly as much crowd control, he doesn't even do as much damage as you're making it seem.

Yeah his over all damage is better in some cases, but you seem to forget that his damage is pretty avoidable once he ults. Juking his W with a little bit of movement speed is easy, and his ult is extremely unreliable anytime there are minions around, and even when they aren't, if the lava hits a tank or tanky dps two or three times there goes half of his damage output. Brand gives up a massive amount of reliability for some aoe, while LeBlanc gives up aoe for CC, consistency, and single target burst.

Brand doesn't even have her beat in range, considering his E has been reduced a bit, and to even reliably land his Q you have to be mid-short range. Brand against 2 solitary targets he absolutely destroys, but how often is this the case? LeBlanc does what she is meant to, and that's shut carries down, whether they're AP or AD.

Yeah, Banshee's can counter her, but how long exactly is that going to be up in a team fight? And what ap carry does banshee's NOT counter? Ryze maybe? Even if its just her vs the banshee's, her Q is on a pretty short CD, if anything she can throw that and wait a couple seconds to start he combo. And anyone who thinks that she needs to pop her E or W to pop her Q/R doesn't know how timing works. Q, wait a second, R, wait a second, Q. Boom, most of their health gone in 3 seconds or so. Then if you are in range, W then W to set off the last one. Are you gonna die? Maybe. Is the carry gonna die? Almost definitely.

I'm not trying to make her out to be a god tier ap carry, but to say she doesn't do well late game is just wrong. Kassadin has his mobility and relatively safe burst, akali has her stealth and her pursuit and sustain, and LB has her extremely powerful early game (which most assassins don't have) and insanely overlooked silence (timed just right it's a six second silence, then another 2 every time her Q>E is off cooldown. Sorry Brand, no spells for you)

And i can tell you from experience, her single combo is enough to kill a support before they can react. With a bit of AP making the fight 4v5 at the start is easy if she can get the jump on the support. And if your support is someone who relies on good use of ult like Sona or Janna, your team is screwed.