Talk:Ryze/@comment-41.135.13.95-20120121231009

So i just had a game where a combination of lag and lack of sleep had me behind 1/5/2 but after 20 min of afk farming i ganked ashe in the jungle ending her in one combo but i got jumped by victor and shyvana who both ulted me, i killed victor and as i droped shyvana to about 25%hp katarina jumped in, i killed shyvana and droped katarina to about 50% Hp before she droped me, and i even got an assist for her as my team droped her, the conclusion is ryze has a slightly weaker start than most AP carries but he probably has a much stronger late game, he may not melt a person in 3 spells like a normal carry but he can chuck alot of spells and he handles fokus fire better than most champions capable of doing the damage