Talk:Honor Guard (Season 2012 Mastery)/@comment-68.68.80.248-20120211143540/@comment-81.231.245.98-20120810231626

you get indomitable with tough skin to take reduced minion damage, your goal is not to negate champ damage. The melee minions in lane deals about 5 damage, the caster minions deal 10 and the siege 20 (if I remember correctly) playing singed and going behind the enemy tower to clear the next minion wave will deal quite the damage without the 4 in damage reduction.

Also, on a side note, indomitable is used AFTER armor and mr reduction. Honor Guard is used BEFORE. This is actually pretty different and both masteries have more uses at certain times. Tho I have to say, Honor guard does very little. And you can't even use it for utility (4 reduced damage form minions, helps with zoning for example) it's just bad, nothing else to really say here... But hey, a lot of masteries in the defense tree is useless.