Talk:Elise/@comment-9051002-20130502173910/@comment-7967732-20130504235445

10 bonus to armor & magic resist is not alot but extremely helpful at early levels. That gives her the ability to go all in at level 3 onward. And as Zeriel00 pointed out, jungler Elise is dead now. Her human form base stat is as squishy as any other mages, but her kit requires to be constantly switching form and putting herself in danger, close range many times, losing that extra bit of tankiness just doesn't make any sense at all.

Saying a banshee can shut her down early game is wrong, consider Elise can stack alot of Magic Pen & Banshee is a waste for many bruisers in top lane. Blocking a single Neurotoxin won't be that great. However, she is not hard to counter at all. Choose a champ that can easily play safe & turret hug, while having a better late game than her (Kayle, Nasus, Zed...) and make her useless later on. Not to mention you can send the AP mid laner to top and totally dominate her there.

For all Elise, coming out of laning phase without a kill and equal farm with your enemy is actually a lost. People playing against her are just so aggressive and impatient, and try to go all in with her most of the time, then screaming OP, NERF!!! when they die.