Talk:Veigar/@comment-25122281-20170102015525/@comment-28529352-20170102141503

The only "ridiculously high" base damage is on his W, and you're never going to hit that against an competent opponent unless you stun them - which is pathetically easy to avoid and his only means of defending himself, so misusing it is a death sentence. Also, the only way he's ever getting 1000 AP in 30 minutes is if he goes 20/0 with perfect cs or something.

You also "conveniently" forgot to mention that he has one of the shittiest lanes ever for any mid lane mage, having no pressure, short range and needs to sacrifice his farming if he wants do keep up with high waveclear mages. Yes his ratios are high, they HAVE to be high because he's supposed to be a lategame mage who scales indefinitely and with the exception of his ult his damage is hard do confirm.

Yes his core idea is "he kills stuff". Know who else has that idea? EVERY.SINGLE.BURST MAGE.AND.ASSASSIN.IN THE GAME. At least he has a more defined niche on his hyper-scaling and zone control.