Talk:Gragas/@comment-4022742-20150323111103/@comment-8506165-20150326135930

^I get 10% CDR from runes/masteries and then I can run IBG/LT with a few options for max CDR - the easiest of which is just a Frozen Heart, admittedly, but there's also stuff like Locket/SV against AP heavy teams. Face of the Mountain is apparently actually quite good on some tanky junglers as well - I've seen it a few times in higher elo games and I've been meaning to give it a go sometime.