Talk:Vi/@comment-9705522-20131026142011/@comment-5955640-20131026194402

That's never happened when I played a Vi. I've played a lot of Vi's. Plenty of times as any paticular role of the moment.

You catch them isolated they go down well. If the battle is well underway and your team is doing well your doing cleanup and how is Vi going to help if she then becomes distracted with the teamfight?

How many players do you know who are dilligent enough to actually not engage in a teamfight while waiting for their prime target to arrive?

The counterplay for her and Nocturne is still the same. Get someone to peel for you and that's all you need. They specfically nerfed Vi, Nocturne, Hecarium, and a couple other champions that have a cc immunity mode that when they are hit with CC in that mode it still counts and goes off that second. Everything your talking about like the slow sheild inflict or her on hit effect would only happen if you don't stun her as she touches down or a second beforehand.

And lets not even forget Mikeal's Crucible would easily remove all the debuffs (except the knockup of course) and give a generous percentage of health back. You can even get Soraka on your team as either support or AP. Heal your carry so the heal armor buff lets Vi do far less damage. E Vi as she gets into range so she can't cast her other spells. And let the team handle it. If you need too. Ult heal to completely nullify the impact of her initation on your Marksman.