Talk:Archangel's Staff/@comment-3516765-20110407032309/@comment-67.208.160.122-20110419170226

I did some theorycrafting and stacking AA on Ryze gives incredible numbers for his W and E ability; Q, not so much. A thing to note is that a mana stacking Ryze still has more mana than an AA stacking Ryze, though that shouldn't be surprise.

However, three things should be mentioned. (1) While the AP numbers are impressive for his W and E, it should be taken into consideration that Ryze's survivability plunges next to non-existence when stacking AA's as opposed to the classic mana/tanky build (FH, RoA, BV) which offers HP, MR, Armor, spellshield, etc. It's up to you to decide if they extra damage is worth losing the tankiness. So, when people say it's a bad item to stack I think they're not really arguing the numbers but the fact that you're so weak defensively. (2) The cooldown on W also 4x longer than Q; so, is the extra W/E dmg worth dropping survivability when Ryze is built to combo and spam the hell out of Q? IMO, no because a dead Ryze is a no-spam Ryze. But others may find success and hats off to you if you do. (3) Sorcerer Boots and Void Staff comes out to +20 MPen and 40% MPen, not 60%MPen. I think you were confusing Sorc Boots +20 MPen as a percentage and not a flat number.