Talk:Riven/@comment-4834593-20131217200402/@comment-5209745-20131218031532

Huh... Johnnyboy, just because people says so, that doesn't means they're right.

I'm not denying that she was strong, that would be lying. Probably she's still ok. But nerfing is just a cycle with a very bad end: Either the character finds a dead end where nobody wants to play him/her (Either for constant inconsistencies in the ability kit due nerfs, or just because nerfs make the character lackluster), or the character gets reworked to a point where it's no longer the same character. And toxicity doesn't ends there, when a character falls off due a nerf, another "takes" it's place and becomes the focus of anger. Then that character gets nerfed, then another, then another...

Nerfing is never a real solution, is just a destructive manner to hand the problems to another character. If they had done with her shield the same thing they've done with her Q -which has resulted more on a tweak than in a nerf-, nobody could complain. But buffing the shield first and nerfing her health regen down to the ground (Patch 1.0.0.154), just to later nerf her shield... Well, it's just plain bad balancing.