Talk:Fiora/@comment-3493296-20150723014431/@comment-1330314-20150725064409

Sion's skills are all heavily telegraphed and require tons of precise timing, so he's actually quite difficult, but that's also irrelevant: even if literally every tank were completely brainless to play, that would not be an excuse to make a champion roll over them all just because they're more "skillful". On top of that, tanks are genuinely difficult to play, and they need their defensive stats to work. Your hatred of tanky champions does not justify invalidating their entire itemization, not does it justify giving your preferred characters or classes the ability to hard-counter them simply because you don't like how tanky champions die too slowly.

The very fact that supports have at least some means of dealing damage makes them able to kill. They're definitely the worst at it, and by far, but that doesn't mean a support should auto-lose to an assassin, just as a tank should auto-lose to Fiora. You're assuming certain roles are entitled to auto-win against others, and assuming assassins and melee carries are inherently more skillful than other roles, but that's not how League works. Every champion has, or should have, the potential to outplay their opponents, whether it be on a strategic or mechanical level, which implies every champion should have a chance at beating every other. Even in the case of the AP Lee Sin off-build you mentioned (notice that you picked a build that is deliberately unviable, as opposed to tanks and supports, who are typically built to succeed), he should have the tools to outplay his opponents.