Talk:Riven/@comment-9224869-20130819114657/@comment-5707860-20130823015416

@leyrann

you sure changed your mind about skill order. last i remembered you chastised me for maxing Q first and not adapting skill choice for the situation.

adding on to build for snowballing:

fort pot + 3 (or 4 if you dont have to leash) is one of the best snowball starters if you are confident. big drawback is the 350 security deposit you will never see back. high risk high reward start if you got the cojones for it.

Dorans blade is probably the best early game dueling item. i dont recommend going past 2 since it will delay your build but it gives you alot of fighting power.