Talk:Bard/@comment-26290243-20150528114207/@comment-26290243-20150528132357

The original problem with the ancient coin prior to the buff was that the stats were extremely poor and you were just better off getting spellthiefs or relic because they outright have better stats. Not only that, but Talisman was outshined by Righteous Glory and offered better stats, making Talisman a poor choice.

But the buffed ancient coin offered movement speed and mana regen, both stats Bard can take advantage of when roaming and going to other lanes. And when upgraded to the Talisman, since the active is on a 40 second cooldown (lower with points in the intelligence to reduce it to 32 seconds) and his roaming as well as chase potential is just amazing.

It depends on whether you want a stronger laning or you plan on doing more roams. Spellthief is better if you want to be aggressive, but if you want to roam around more, the upgraded nomad's medallion which offers 10 movement speed is pretty great for the time being.

And Talisman > Frost Queen's Claim.

I've tried it out ancient coin line with Bard and spellthiefs. I find if I stuck to the ancient coin and upgrade it to Talisman, it improved my teamfights heavily. The combination of Bard ult, Magical Journey, Talisman and Righteous Glory makes for some disgusting pick potential.