Talk:Swain/@comment-58.173.12.12-20130309094732/@comment-193.174.111.250-20130311095715

With RoA and Athene's it's enough for a 15-20s Teamfight (If you get some assists/kills for Athene's second passive), experienced that often.

But it's better to get more CD to toggle it off/on, because  <<40% CD on a caster means 40% more damage>>