Talk:Abyssal Scepter/@comment-69.141.8.150-20120703183919/@comment-79.110.37.22-20120820162609

It gives you almost everything you need to thrive vs other AP char - you take less from them and do more to them.

CDR and ManaReg are not that cool stuff on items anyway, unless you're never getting your golem buff.

Also one not so often mentioned thing - on many champions this item alone allows to oneshot minion wave - eg. Ahri with this and single doran ring will one shot whole wave on level 9 with maxed orb.

This is because this unlike magic penetration items remove 20 resistance from everyone around, going negative. Minions gain MR very slowly so they are usually pretty negative.