Talk:Riven/@comment-7846894-20140514212617/@comment-8506165-20140521051244

"Maybe a numbers error on Riot's end?"

"you HAVE to cheese or get an early advantage to get that godlike stage of her."

So, um... Numbers error = not automatically godlike if you don't get an advantage early?

I'm genuinely curious. I mean, some people were saying Riven was balanced when she practically auto-won top and snowballed ridiculously hard (often by their own admission), so I suppose by that standard she would be UP now. But that's not really a standard that people who play other champs would endorse, so I'm just curious as to what your benchmark is, given that your first post also said you were glad she wasn't as broken any more.