Talk:Heimerdinger/@comment-108.39.196.128-20111107024748/@comment-24.146.194.181-20120112095230

Agreed... they lowered its ratio from .77 to .55 right after they made his grenades and turrets do half damage to towers to weaken his tower-pushing ability, but then they made grenades not damage towers AT ALL, destroying his ability to backdoor. Since then, they have done practically nothing to give back the damage against players that they once had, only raising them to .6 when they lowered his turrets from 3 to 2. Grenades were never overpowered against players, they are a slow and very escapable skillshot with a rather long cooldown.