Talk:Karma/@comment-1920550-20141223000400/@comment-25953891-20150101222041

Ok what the hell guys. Her ultimate doesn't deal  785 +150%AP. Why? Because it puts Q on the recharge. If I didn't mantra+Q then I'd be able to use normal Q for 260+60% AP. The actual damage from her ultimate is just the additional damage on skills. So it's not really all that good. If you mantra+Q and they manage to walk out of it before the detonation then the mantra added 175+30% AP on top of what Q would do anyway. That's it. The damage from mantra Q is higly overrated.