Talk:Cassiopeia/@comment-26128186-20151210110313/@comment-26128186-20151211105736

@Tashikoma

well, again, personally, I still haven't had problems with neither mana nor damage. Even when I do get a tear as first item, I find I still deal quite a lot of damage simply because I can just poison and e over and over. Her early harass damage comes from that combo. As for wave clear, I don't feel she has that bad of wave clear. if I can poison minions and e them to last hit and get the cd reduc, I usually can wave clear good enough while also last hitting and getting some mana back, too. Also, I feel that wave-clear isn't the only important focus of a cass early game. I also like to focus on ramping up my passive stacks with my 2 poisons, which will help cass at its various levels of power.

I do agree on how easy it is to gank her pre-level 6, but I usually stay at a same distance where I can both farm and stay safe enough to not over-extend. Plus, I can still use miasma for slow and q for speed up. Yes, although they aren't spectacular for disengage, they are definitely helpful. In addition, the mere presence of a poison like q and w is enough to make gankers give up their chase, though that might just be because they overestimate it. Idk about you, but whenever there is a poison, I always find myself backing away, but again, that might just be that I'm bad and overestimate it -_-.

But the focus of my discussion was just how unfun it is to play against her, kinda like how they removed yorick from champion rotation for the same reason. Although cass is apparently not unfun enough to be removed from champ rotation, I feel like its the same level.