Talk:Elise/@comment-200.153.219.38-20130113181654/@comment-200.158.227.20-20130114160513

of course i know sotd scales with AD...

but, my point is, sotd increases your burst, and you need burst to take donw carries fast, right?

even without AD, the damage should be 600 (before reduction) + three extra spider form ult's passive damage in less than 1 sec... and the extra damage increases your Q damage in spider form