Talk:Rengar/@comment-5045559-20120830141325

Dude, AP rengar isn't bad, it's just the recent wave of new AP rengar players who don't know yet how to play him which is bad.

Just think of how AD rengar players were feeders in every game when he came out. There was even that pro player (can't remember which one) who made a 14-ish second video on youtube just to say something like "here are my first impressions on Rengar.... He sucks. That's all!".

I play AP rengar jungle, with armor Reds instead of mpen, vamp quints, CDR blues, and tanky masteries. That lets me jungle (not doing the golems camp) with just 1 pot + 20AP tome in first run, and i never have to buy pots again. DFG + Ionians = 40CDR perma.

This build gives assists more than anything else but it's solid and great for dealing great damage to everyone in teamfights with the DFG+W+W -> R+Zhonya's (pretty much unkillable) -> W+W combo. On a 30 seconds cooldown (not counting DFG). It doesn't even need Mpen, and if enemies stack Mres just make Void staff. It worked wonders for me, try this out before calling AP rengar a troll.