Talk:Maokai/@comment-24.6.194.76-20120114212140/@comment-69.141.8.150-20120119162824

"He initiates very well against an unorganized team"

aka "He needs crappy opponents to initiate well"

That's not really being good as initiating. Compare that to Malph's R, Leona's R, Alistar's headbutt, Blitz's rocket grab etc.

His W is definitely great for intercepting someone like Trynd or Yi before that get to your ranged carry and it's great for ganking from jungle. But it's really not all that great for initiating team fights unless, like you said, the other team is just bad.