Talk:Thresh/@comment-93.86.180.107-20130117113034/@comment-109.193.82.64-20130117175511

Support (the "botlane support") is supposed to be a champion that can either directly help others (heal/movespeed/shield/Thresh's Lantern Dash) or give control over the battlefiled/the other team (Leona's stuns, Janna's or Alistar's knockbacks and knockups, slows, Threshs Q and E).

But that is not because of the laning phase, it's for only one simple reason: They dont get much money and therefore not much AD or AP. Winning the botlane is possible with damage-only supports, but later in the game the become more and more useless. Abilities must be useful without looking at the scalings to give a good support champ. With the new items you may get ~250 AP on champs like Lux or Zyra, but still it's not really much.

So why would we "waste" Thresh as a support/tank? 1) Because he gets not that much AP botlane and if he tries to he will stay squishy but needs to go into the fight (Death Scentence into The Box for example). 2) Because his AP scalings are bad (except for his ult).

And why are champs wasted if played support even if they could be played in an other position? I dont see the logic behind this statement... I choose my champ depending on the position I will play on and if the champ is good there why should I bother if he also fills other roles? There are over 100 champs in the game, if one of them is already taken for the support position it should not be to hard to find a replacement...