Talk:Renekton/@comment-4948122-20120716210931/@comment-5009341-20120717125514

^oh, yeah i almost forgot that players like u exist in this meta... wish it would be like beta phase or season 1, where everything was about fun, y that time was awesome

irelias lategame starts at +30 min? lol i saw many irelias which started to dominate at 10-15 min, maybe if i were to master her i could pull that of too, but she is so far away from my interst that this will propably never happen (unless they remake her)

but yes rene falls off lategame pretty much harder then anyone else and he doesnt have that great of early game as many think, cause they get kicked by a champ they didnt even know he would exist (obviously they lost cause they dont know what to do) but won late game cause they get shitloads of health and armor, while renes cooldowns are still quite high and his basedamage at later ranks is lower then the average too

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his w should get the passive: the cd of renektons q and w will be reduced 0.2/0.4/0.6/0.7/0.8/1 second for every attack he lands

, this will help rene to sustain the damage he deals without having too high utility and since w is usually maxed last it wont be very useful early game while helps rene to deal sustained damage lategame (even if they max w their damage will be lower, so even then it wont be OP)

to darius: thats the reason why i hate him, he has everything he needs and doesnt pay for anything, soft cc, hard cc, magic damage, armpen, truedamage, very low cds, ms buff

and what are his problems?

being melee (this is more of a joke then a problem), very low manacosts (its actually not a problem at all, but it should be), having no escape (lol there are so many champs who dont have a escape mecha, but are they as op as he? ofc not)

all in all:

irelia class noskill freewin champ

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the most retarded part in lol is that they call rene balanced, but when a champ is nerfed down to rene status suddenly everyone says the nerfed champ is UP and useless shit (like they did with xin)