Talk:Shaco/@comment-26842651-20150902162446

I love my shaco but I do think he needs a rework

IMO

Passive(Two Shiv Poison)- (All pets benifit) Back attacks deal 10% more damage and slow by 10/20/30/40 at levels 1/5/9/13, All attacks poison enemies (Non-champion creatures gain a 20/25/30% chance to miss at levels 1/4/7) dealing 20% AD/AP as damage over 10 seconds (stacks to 10)

I always thought two shiv was great but felt like it could just be a passive and the damage moved onto a new skill or into the other skills

Q-same as however rank 5 resets if any pet dies

Deceive has always been a staple shaco skill but it always felt end game that once you go in you're done

W- Almost same as before however you throw 3 boxes (Like jinx's traps); They also cannot be in 6/5/4/3/2 teemos of eachother, 1 box will be the current, 1 box will shoot bullets, and 1 will spit flame Dealing 1/3 of the current dmg per box however 1/3 magical, physical, and true and scale off shaco's Attack Speed and crit chance as well

I always felt ever since i seen another character in another moba that  shaco's traps could be balanced if they had to be spaced out but threw out more per cast and since it's damage is split but still can scale regardless of ap or ad shaco it could potentially be great end game

E- new skill i have no idea what

I honestly don't know lol

R- Almost the same however pet will ALWAYS be the same as shaco (Ex. If you have some persistant effect on yourself the clone will visually have it too, if you have some champion effect over you the clone will visually have it too, etc)(Lately it's been waaaaaay too easy to see which shaco was real :/ not even a gamble anymore)

I'm still debating whether I should try for 2 clones instead 3 for shaco or move this onto the e while nerfing the stats of the clone and just give shaco a new ulti

The only change I think i might be going alittle overboard with is the Q resets however I would love if either killing a pet or (not both) killing/assisting a champion kill reset it

I'm not going to even say shaco is fine where he is cause he really just falls off end game regardless of how good you are.