Talk:Gragas/@comment-4680018-20120709044752/@comment-15562896-20120710003611

I see what you mean but Gragas generally doesn't shine in teamfights, he shines mid game where he should be farming a lot (wraithes/wolves are very quickly cleared too - usually AP players like to farm those as well) as well as ganking sidelanes as much as possible while pushing his lane.

In teamfights against Kennen he's actually good because he can R him away, but most of the time he's kinda meh in teamfights because after he uses his R, the only thing he can do is Q, wait for its cd (which can be pretty long if you don't have cdr - classic gragas build only gets CDR late in the game - or blue buff), which is meh especially because Barrel Roll isn't guaranteed damage unlike most APs.