Talk:Veigar/@comment-71.135.41.92-20120129083427/@comment-90.53.233.183-20120129115126

One of the hardest to play heroes in the game. And not one that can carry a team either because he don't have any constant DPS or reliable mass aoe (his meteor won't hit more than too people at most) so yes he have hard CC, that's a part of his kit, and yes he's nuking you down, that's his gameplay. But for this kit, that's not even one of the most OP out there, he have no early game, is squishy like hell, have no escape, a stun that's really hard to use against all of the close up champions, have long CD.

So yes, you're stupid, if this is the question.