Talk:Kayle/@comment-31203455-20170228153856/@comment-28977071-20170726060609

Outdated VG, yes. Outdated mechanics, sure, their technique obviously doesn't go in line with the current trend of kit-making.

But I don't agree with the final argumentation. This out-dated state has little to do with their effectiveness. Imo the freshness of a champ'd be more related to the pick rate, while their strength'd be better reflected by a win rate. In case of the two angels, their pick rate is rather low (maybe except for ), while their win rate (again except for  ) is above 50%.

You'd have better realized, what a useful sustain tool had been, if you haven't had it imo. It is even impactful on a, cuz of high base damages (but even more useful for an APC). Also, you really shouldn't believe in the end-game statistics regarding the healing, I believe that either they are bugged or at least many of the champs' self-healing sources are not included. I've seen too many strangely low numbers in there way too often, even after I've refilled my bar multiple times, not using the fountain. Regarding the useless spell.. which one is it? and are her staple moves.. is the ult, damn, that speaks for itself, equally good on tanky build as the ones with, etc. I presume you meant ? The ability that allows to proc almost for free (this applies to s as well)? The one that grants APC her remarkable wave clear and lane push, along with a massive sustain (combined with )? Also, according to statistics, a  has a stronger performance than a , so removing her from the equation is downright misleading.

Again I agree with the "out-dated"-ness, but not with the argumentation of being "weak".