Talk:Renekton/@comment-4915885-20120726122646/@comment-93.228.162.162-20120727122526

i get the point that flat armor pen is strongest when oppent has not much armor because the low armor stats gain much more decreased (%) dmg than if you have high armor where 1 aromr < than 0.5% dmg reduction for example.

but new runes will also buff most of renes opponents and on top of that i think flat armor pen is stronger late game than only like 8.5 ad. i mean you dont want to kill the tank, you want to kill squishies. flat armor pen+ youmus is enough to deal high dmg. and you can take last whisper too if needed. i think the problem lies in his skills which are below average when you dont have the fury. while building up fury you push the lane. in teamfights you have the ult for fury but the ult itself is not good in my op.

he has the armor pen on his E but i think its kind of hard to make use of it because i would like to use it to follow someone. i dont have fury anymore in most cases when i use the 2nd dash and even if the combo is already on cd.

and one other troll thing: why does his W stun 0,75 secs without fury?

with fury: 3hits= 1.5sec stun -> so one hit = 0.5 sec stun

that means: 2hits should stun 1 sec! its more logic and i hate that i allways have to use fury on W because without this skill is nearly not noticeable. also i cant think of a champ with a stun shorter of 1sec except renekton.

gaining fury is not rewarding on him. its so damn neccessary in every situation because his skills are too weak to compete for 1 sec with other champs.