Talk:Veigar/@comment-26421250-20160511164904/@comment-5931083-20160611140012

What about you, did you notice his passive? One thing is, with some CDR and possibly mana (pool or regen) he can get more stacks than without that. The other thing is, once he gets some extra AP (and probably Rabadon to multiply it), he has tons of AP already. Geting items with lower AP (e.g. 60 rather than 100) doesn't really make his dmg low if he makes up with getting some extra passive AP thanks to having more utility or tanky stats.

It would be fun if the game was super long (over one hour) and he had lots of farm and some AP from hitting enemies with spells and he then bought some tank items. I bet he would still one-shot the squishies.