Talk:Hecarim/@comment-213.119.13.149-20130113134500/@comment-195.194.74.65-20130115125500

It's 50 damage* unless you build full Ad runes of course. Ye he would clear pretty god damn fast, think about zed he has on the of the fastest clear and has pratically identical scaling with his E in terms of base ad only.

50 / 85 / 120 / 155 / 190 (+ 60% bonus AD)

60 / 95 / 130 / 165 / 200 (+80% bonus AD)

I still do find it hard to believe he has given such a sub-par kit even when it comes to clearing and ganking, and even dueling. I just...urghh...

It's like he was never going to be viable straight away and Riot hasn't done anything to him. You can look online and there are just hundreds of similar complaints about him on the forums which are just not looked over.