Talk:Swain/@comment-5259099-20140306105220/@comment-5259099-20140307130511

i count ap ratios for dmg...

diana shield is no dmg, it protect only her, i could also count swain ulti 3 enemys heal for 75% of dmg dealt so the heal scales 3times 0.2 ap aswell as the dmg so with E on1 enemy its 0,2+0,2+0,24=0,64 added to the 2,88 = 3,52ap

and as u might didnt see, i did calculate the dmg of the orbs.

you happy now?

annie shield is only dealing dmg if u use aa on her...so....how should we count that? 5seconds...adc could do 5-10hits...xin aswell...so 25*0,2ap? or what? could be 0...howw do we know?

veigar has unlimited, i never said swain has the highest ap ratios, all i said, even to his great kit with cc and lifesteal, he has really high ratios

and again, swain is tanky because compared to 95%of all apc because of his ITEMAZATION! PLS READ IF YOU COMMENT!, he can deal same dmg but with RoA and liandras,as others with rabadons+void for example. so he is tankier as others, also he got a lifeleech with his ultimate, which gives him sustain in fights, he can stay a lot longer middle of fights as other apc.

lets say he is not tankier, he can stay longer in fights. -.-