Talk:Shyvana/@comment-178.36.40.66-20120118160333/@comment-4344970-20120119150653

Yeah, I don't think counter-jungling an Udyr is something that you want to try doing. VERY bad idea.

As for ganking lanes, it doesn't matter how much damage she does if she can just be kited around/the lane has mobility. Ganking top lane? Because you have no CC, Tryndamere, Kennen, Renekton, Rumble, hell even Swain, can get away from you.