Talk:Swain/@comment-16494910-20140214191207/@comment-7967732-20140217090231

Sivir as poor mention? You don't know anything about her then. Her Q outrange Nevermove, and her W can hit Swain easily in team fight. Once she hit someone, it is hard to land any skill shot on her. What worse is that she gives mobility to her whole team as well. And should I mention she will even fuck Swain up in 1vs1 situation. You land Q on her, she shields your E and turn ult on to easily dodge W. More than half of your damage is gone right there, while she keeps hitting you to death. If you think "truly hurt" means "kill", then you even have no idea about the basics of playing ADC. One with short AA range as Sivir should never be stubborn to go deep and try to kill enemy team AP or AD carry.

Lucian Q has effective range of 1100. His W has 1000 range and it will give him extra movespeed when he hits marked enemy. He already outrange Swain EQ combo with his 550 AA range (which equal to 650 spell range), and even if you land the bird on him, he can dash and remove all slow. He DOESN'T rely on his ult only to hit you (in fact, Lucian uses his ult in siege scenario much more than actual team fight).