Talk:Kayn/@comment-25218650-20170704063915/@comment-4091261-20170710150622

I agree, he's bonkers strong. He makes damage look laughable--especially when he's. However, and at least hard counter his ass when fighting in open areas.

and can completely negate. They can both easily dodge with their dashing abilities and  is nothing compared to the hardcore crits these guys pump out. At least spin can knock people up.

I will say it is much easier to snowball with than most other champions. and gives him a lot of flexibility to gank and it's common knowledge that his  ratios are bonkers so he can put those  gains to good use.

That said, he'll get fed quicker than most other champions, no problem. That fact is insanely annoying to deal with since both transformations makes this even more difficult to deal with. His mid-game power is at an astronomical level. That's why extreme scaling champions are important for countering, and melee ADCs are known for that.