Talk:Vayne/@comment-10258129-20130904133837/@comment-10258129-20130909175623

Bro Dyomaeth and others, sry about late anwser,

I understand that Vayne is strong (loved the adc comparrison to Lee sin! xD) but you guys are always comparing 1v1 situations! it's not the same as comparing strategies! tou see, Caitlyn is about finishing the game ASAP, and early dominance ( take towers early and feed late scaling champs like Jax). Countering a champ like Lee Sin and Vayne has to relly on team building!

I dont play much with teams, but i always try to balence the champ i choose: if teams lacks CC i go for a CC champ, otherwise go for a dmg champ. the same has to happen in a team, creating a strategy, owning the pace of the game often decide the winner instead of single champs picking. here is a link talking about how Cloud 9 owned the pace of the teamfigths

http://www.mobafire.com/esports/news/why-cloud-9-has-success-with-ashe-and-zyra-312

(besides, no one has talked about Ashe may contering Vayne! dat arrow!...)

still, IMO, the best counter to Vayne is Tristana: about the same mobility and strong cc (no stun, but still tou wont get close to her!) and the early lane fase can be dominated because she grows in range, allowing her to farm arass with aa and explosions from a safe distance. she is the counte engage nemessis of vayne, think about that

TL;DR - Use team comp to counter Vayne. Best ADC IMO to counter Vayne is Tristana.