Talk:Lucian/@comment-9775822-20151119025932/@comment-5319740-20160111132136

lucian is pretty much positioning dependent as well, his Q needs to be "aligned" for it to hit for example, hes much like vayne in that regard (vs condemn).

if you wanna play lucian very aggressively, e.g. an all-in dive whenever your skills are all out of cooldown, then you'd have to get a tanky CC support (someone like thresh or leona), having the right support will save you from mistakes.

when you're behind as lucian, and your support can barely hold up as well, you'd first have to get some gold by farming the waves first, Q can still give the opposing lane some pressure as they'd have to back off if they end up getting poked by it a lot.

with enough gold at hand, you'd have to itemize for countering their support, yes the support, the opposing ADC doesn't matter much. if the support is a CC type, get mercs AND quicksilver, it'll save your ass. now if the support is a sustain type, you better rush executioner's calling ASAP, otherwise you'd be pinned down by that support.

now with their support rendered useless, or almost, you need to start out-doing the ADC, since you're behind by a lot (i imagine their ADC already has IE) then you better itemize to get around their sustained DPS, death dance in particular works well in this scenario, the bursty characteristics of IE can be suppressed a bit, the lifesteal also affects your spells, and the AD given is quite big, plus its easy to itemize.

as such, you can now trade damage for a bit against their ADC, now your only hope is your support can compensate for whatever happens during the trade (e.g. either he heals you or stuns the ADC) if he can't then you'd have to turtle it a bit. in this scenario, you'd have to build a bit more tanky while building damage, for example death dance + phantom dancer can make you tankier without compromising damage, and if push comes to shove you can also build tabi.