Talk:Quinn/@comment-24711193-20151104063422/@comment-5663971-20151104135923

I don't even understand you man! where are you getting these 5.23 changes?? Today's PBE cycle is still on 5.22!

I can't even friggin' see your "Math"! I'm arguing your numbers ARE wrong.

Well isn't it?

Cite your sources!

I like the Q because it's so damn overloaded, and I love it when Rito makes design mistakes because I'm a game dev myself. I've been closely watching changes everytime, predicting that Darius was going to be OP.

Take a long look at my arguments at the old comments section at Ryze's page, when everyone was arguing he was going to be UP.

I analyze things. Here are my numbers if you want:

Average HP of enemy in lane situations - 80%, 1000 HP max

@lvl 9, items: BF sword and dorans blade, AD runes = ~120 AD

Poke damage = 312 before resists

All in: E -> AA -> Q -> AA, enemy @ 80% HP

E->AA combo approx. deals 260 damage = ~ 200 HP after resists

enemy drops to 60%

Q -> AA will deal  = ~410 HP

610 HP damage total, enemy HP remaining = ~ 20%

Add another AA, OR R's initial 1x AD Skystrike, and there''s your dead enemy.

Did I mention that new Harrier gives 20 - 40% movespeed everytime you proc it?

Current Q + R deals 330-430 + 115 - 165% bonus AD. @ level 9

PBE Q alone deals 130 - 260 + 100 - 200% TOTAL AD. @ level 9

387-512 vs 251-500 @ 50 bonus AD

look at that damage, it's pretty damn close, especially that now it scales so much faster with levels and items, and you don't have to waste a long ass CD for it.