Talk:Ryze/@comment-89.204.130.229-20130116231225/@comment-83.196.92.107-20130124155308

i honestly don't think seraph is as good on ryze as  a muramana so i usually just pick the second tear after muramana, it will eventually charge up and anyways the damage out of a 700 g tear is more than worth it

my usual ryze  goes    mana 2 pots >  tear + boots > sorc boots + catalyst >  RoA

> manamune (charge faster than tear alone) >   negatron cloak >   frozen shroud  >   iceborn gauntlet OR   frozen heart :  if they have  a vayne or 3 champs  relying on AA ( ex  xin top/ udyr jungle  and adc) >   abyssal or banshee depending on what i need  >  situational

i usually get a 2nd tear whenever i finish stacking 1st