Talk:Vayne/@comment-83.108.190.217-20110516220434/@comment-3985944-20110518185418

^^ There are plenty of other champions that dictate what your team must do at the beginning of a team fight. Karthus, for example. If you let a Karthus live all team fight, not only is he going to CC your whole team with his wall, he's also going to own with his AoE damage (which is exceptionally high with any amount of AP) while simultaneously AoE'ing with his little dot, then he's going to most likely score a triple kill with his ultimate. Having a champion that you must not let survive for too long is a team fight is nothing new to League..