Talk:Nidalee/@comment-24088040-20131105120604/@comment-5955640-20131121055222

They did nerf her again and this one. Will really hurt her laning phase. Now you have to use it at range higher than 525. The max range is 1500 so you have a 925 range distance that is fixed at when you cast it to throw the spear and do bonus distance damage.

Which is generally going to make this skill very hard to use effectively. You always want to get near max range on the spear and the great distance lets it snipe people really easily but in dueling situations it's bad. You will be much easier to kite now and there will be minimum punishment to getting hit by a spear as you run in fact Nidalee would have to hedge her bets and let you get a little more further away to do more damage (very sporting of her but she'll probably miss surely?).

Then they nerfed Bushwhack which is weird. Making the debuff duration shorter makes it less useful and to be honest It was something that required some tacticful use to actually contribute in a fight. It has a brief setup like the flame chompers and it just did some trickle damage and made doing magic damage a lot more impactful. That's not exactly the hard lockdown the Snap traps do or the Evil CC damage of the Teemo Shrooms.

Just for comparison I went back and looked again at Sagee's fan rework of the Nidalee. It almost seems like they took some sort of note from consider the damage reduction of the Javelin being invovled in how it was being used as a projectile. Not exact but almost in the same vein.

However the change to Bushwhack was clearly a Buff that would have made for more dynamic use of the item and probably put it in league with Yordle Snap Trap. Putting more power into NOT Javelin is pretty good at this point but they nerfed her human form in general.

If this nerf compeltely kills her presence in games than she is certainly going to get reworked because well. Everything is nerfed. Nothing has been buffed for quite some time.