Talk:Swain/@comment-41.232.88.175-20120321221958/@comment-4875928-20120322222806

Swain > karthus ?? not rly :/

im sorry to say it (since Swain is my mostly played champ for few months right now) but

Karthus > swain...

Since karthus with the same build has WAY higher DPS per 1 person, and per 5 persons (while swain cant motly attack only 3 ppl at best)... Has his ulti, has SUPER AOE SLOW (swain has one of the worst slows in game, and at best decent snare), his passive, and higher range on AA, spells.

And swain's advantage is ulti heal (hard countered by ignite), and he doesnt need such good ping :P.

They role is a little different, but ppl are not mistaken putting karhus on tier 1 AP's and swain only as a more or less good counter pick to some champs :(.