Talk:Nidalee/@comment-8100976-20140324184022/@comment-8100976-20140325014253

Amusing to automatically and reflexively dismiss others observations but this is the internet and I'll assume you're your experiences are merely different than my own for the sake of discussion.

You describe a series of events in a vacuum: push nidalee, blow nidalee up, rinse and repeat. While in a perfect world this makes plenty of sense, on a team with 4 other members 3 of which may be reasonably expected to roam (Support, Jungle, and Top as Marksmen usually are attempting to farm) you are rarely facing a player who is alone. The assumption that they are alone without concrete proof of that fact will get you in a bad spot and out of position quickly.

So let's just assume you're statement of 'push nidalee in early because she is a weak pusher early game'; what happens? Well, ideally, you zone her from xp and gold, more likely you zone her from gold alone. A jungler may come along for an early gank as by definition you MUST be pushing nidalee to gain this advantage, Nidalee may choose to back off, another member of her team may rotate or otherwise assist her. Yet unless she makes a grave error there is no point in which the vast majority of mid-laners (and I do not intrinsically refer to the Meta champs) have any potential to remove Nidalee from the map, Nidalee loses little to nothing by waiting out the early game. You can in response roam of course but that depends on another dozen variables.

Nidalee's basic design is inherently flawed, or perhaps became flawed as Riot changed their design paradigm. As she stands she is High Reward/Low Risk at most skill levels. Her power is concentrated at one breath-stealing moment, unfortunately that moment is every 2.4 seconds with max CDR. Combined with the rest of her kit being basically slaved about the playstyle involved in throwing her spears (free movement in bush, pounce, self-heal, bush trap for LOS, secondary wave clear) it is doubtless that if Riot had released a champion indentical to Nidalee's design at this point in time people would be frothing at the mouth and storming the Riot HQ with burning keyboards and cat mousepads.

I don't think she is unmanageable, I think she's from an era of League that is radically at odds with the current direction of the game based on the comments made by various designers.