Talk:Shyvana/@comment-186.137.66.4-20120518173233/@comment-88.186.19.90-20120518190216

Gosh, another QQ; do you guys ever learn?

Please sum the total resistances of Riven at level 16 with a standard 4 item build (Ionian+bruta+BT+MoM or whatever Riven builds). Now do the same with Shyvana (Wriggles+merc treads+Wit's End+BT). Good, now compare the HP pools and calculate the total effective health for each. Now calculate the damage total for each champ on 3 enemies with 30 resist, taking into account the sustain (life steal and spell vamp; remember that Riven doesn't benefit from lifesteal on her abilities) Resistance reduction, autoattack damage, AoE damage etc... Both of them can afford to stay in melee range, since they both have high mobility (burnout for Shyvana).

How long (in seconds) does it take for Shyvana to outdamage Riven? How much health does Shyvana gain back from her lifesteal? How much health does Riven gain back overall from health regen, lifesteal and spellvamp? If a 2.5CC (stun or silence) is applied, by how much does the DPS get reduced for Riven? For Shyvana?

You'll see that Shyv will have better resistances, much larger effective health pool, much more damage after 6 seconds or so, CC will not reduce Shyv's DPS by that much while Riven will become severely handicapped. Shyvana can dive in the enemy team and stay there, Riven can't do that without dying, especially if she is CCed by anything other than a slow. Riven is an early-mid damage champ who is there to deal as much damage as she can and is screwed of she gets stunned. Shyvana is a mid-late tank champ that is there to fuck-up the enemy team as hard as she can that isn't screwed by anything. They play differently, have different roles, have different weaknesses. Ratios aren't everything.