Talk:Karma/@comment-14081808-20150529015217

Honestly... How am I supposed to play her now? No damage on E, less damage on W... so she has been reduced to a single damage ability/combo: (R >) Q? Thanks for making her a one trick pony.

Her "utilty" went up a little, damage went way down.

.9 AP is supposed to replace .6 + base + .6? What kind of math is this? I wouldn't ask for 1.2 because that's insane, but 1.0 would be nice at least. It's not even worth using R on past the laning phase as long as you are decent with Q or are in a teamfight/gank, and even then it's questionable (because you can just shield instead of healing, especially with the lowered CD). You aren't a tank, so you aren't diving for the backline. This being R'd is really only useful for the frontline, and they are SUPPOSED to take the hits. If it was a stun or got changed to a stun, then I would say fine, whatever. What does she need a longer root for? Her team might (depends on the tank, and if she uses R > W she probably can't use R > E the help them catch up), but Karma by herself? She doesn't because she can Q and slow them and walk away regardless, using E on herself if necessary.

E... is okay. R-able, but really only necessary against a Karthas ult or as engage... when they just made a point of having two items that give "Run at them!", both of which often go along with Locket... And because there's no damage on it, it doesn't trigger the innate. Great. Easily copied with purchasable items by many a support. Bonus: she can do it more often than they can... weeeeeeeeee... Oh, but let's not forget making solo lane Karma less safe to play with a weaker shield. Totally needed that. Also, the unique "This is a shield, but it's going to hurt you too" is gone. That's not maintaining uniqueness, that's eliminating it.

And for anyone who says Old Karma was clunky, she had a very simple play style. W > E > Run so they don't get away while AAing > R > Q > walk away because bad ass chicks don't look back at explosions in their opponent's faces. If you needed health, R before W instead and heal plenty back. It wasn't clunky, it was beautiful. On paper she just looks like... Sona's sad cousin. She wants to be that cool, but she just doesn't look like she brings the awesomeness anymore.

TL;DR: Less damage, safety makes solo lane Karma less of a thing and she has almost no reason to ult anything but Q and sometimes E past laning. Someone please explain how less damage = stronger, because the only thing that got better IMO is her innate (can't really deny that) and maybe E (only under certain circumstances).