Talk:Elise/@comment-178.166.24.118-20130129154703/@comment-5587704-20130207091027

650 range, high base damage, 6 sec CD. Its a very strong poke even post nerf, pre nerf it was just retardedly strong in lane. I do understand that you cant do crap out of lane, but its not a reason for champ to have 100% lane winrate. Nida was nerfed for same reason. L2be useful out of lane, like Nida players did.