Talk:Fizz/@comment-4384280-20140510072509/@comment-7785527-20140521165614

You argued that AP Fizz has less survivability because AD Fizz builds tanky and because his survivability items are viable on anyone. The thing is, while they are, Zhonyas and GA are not built on AD Fizz. You can, but it doesn't work with the different playstyle. Yes, it can be built on any AP, but that has nothing to do with Fizz v Fizz. And the reduced cooldown on Playful Trickster from maxing it first can simply not be matched. I now realize, however, that comparing their survivability is not exactly a thing that can be done. They have different playstyles and that must be accounted for. While AP squishy survives by avoiding damage and becoming untargetable, AD Fizz is more of a tank and does not seek to aavoid damage.

I did not say that AD Fizz must be played in the jungle. I have tried him top and had success with that as well, it is as viable as AD Fizz. I personally play him in the jungle due to his passive's early survivability, the ganking power with many, many gapclosers and hard cc on his ult, and the on-hit nature of his w which allows it to be fully utilized in the jungle. As for losing gold and having to buy a jungler item, the new feral flare makes junglers can just as much gold as laners. Also, the flare is a core part of AD Fizz's on-hit damage, giving him faster clears and improving hybrid damage. Removing it reduces his damage drastically no matter what item you put in its place. AD Fizz is a bruiser/offtank, but that does not mean his damage has to be lower. Putting him in the jungle gives similar dueling power to an Udyr/Yi Hybrid.