Talk:Swain/@comment-178.98.22.186-20121127135130/@comment-5256197-20121127141756

The most used skill order is R, E, Q, W. That'll give you the most damage, and Nevermove's utility is the same through 1 to 5.

Though I've had couple of matches where I've been bullied so hard that I had to go the exact opposite, W first for my farming and counterbullying, and Q second for every last bit of survivability from constant ganks.

And also, if it seems that team fights are going to happen way sooner, maxing W before Q may just give you the edge over the single target Q.