Talk:Vi/@comment-9705522-20131026142011/@comment-16895574-20131031094159

Now you sound even more like a butthurt guy then before. The examples I gave are valid. J4 has 2 ways to lock you down, so does Lee Sin, so does Sejuani, all in the same way Vi does. Lee sin has more sticking power in fact, so does Sej, so does J4, cauze they have build-in slows. You're talking about BotRK and FM, but those are situational items on Vi at best, I've personally hardly ever seen a serious Vi jungle with those items, so those arguments go out the drain. Vi builds tanky, not offence, at least most of the time. The best offensive item I would get on jungle Vi atm is tri-force. But what do I know eh, you're the expert it seems.

And my counter-play was really valid, just so you know. If you save your escape for after the ult, she has no lock-down potential. And from experience I can tell you it's really easy to get out of position as a Vi cauze of the range of that ult. Not everyone of your team, even most of the assassins, can follow up with the range of that ult. In other words, it's strenght is also it's weakness. Especially if you also use the Q to get closer. Full-range Q followed up by max range R: You've crossed a gap from one turret to the other. Hardly anyone can follow up with that. Take that with a mobility champ and you've got your Vi ready and served.

Get Vi under the turret, and she'll melt, especially early game, just like any other champ.

Really, all your "counter-arguments" werent even arguments. You say J4 uses his lockdown, you escape, boom he's useless? His E-Q combo might disagree, and when he's in your face, feel his W slow. Lee sin will Q you, safeguard to a nice ward, which he just placed just for you, and kick you into the enemy team. Sejuani? Well she'll just R right in the middle of your team and stun the whole f*cking lot of you. After that, let her just knock you right up. Where is your escape now? Seriously stop complaining on Vi. Yes she's strong, especially early game, but that's the purpose of the current meta on junglers!

GET. OVER. IT. AND. GROW. UP.

Btw: fun fact, you might be taken more seriously if you used full sentences, learned to punctuate those said sentences, and started using capital letters at the start of each sentence. This isn't the 1st grade you know.