Talk:Orianna/@comment-26177260-20161227003158/@comment-1920550-20161227003801

Viktor does all that and better. Taliyah has near equal shoving power and stronger roams (although less lategame relevance). Ryze also has immense waveclear, better roams and better lategame.

And she relies very heavily on her own position and The Ball's position, since the thing is actually really slow on the travel time.