Talk:Shen/@comment-24971427-20180919013338/@comment-4091261-20181001193858

Waveclear is honestly  largest pitfall. When you play him, it's quickly clear why it's so important, he's not as tanky as Tank obviously. It means that his capability of jumping into a teamfight and getting away with it is severely gimped.

That said, the next avenue to contribution is split-pushing. However, without enormous waveclear it's very awkward to be split pushing.

Honestly, I think the only legitimate spot can make his contribution with  is taking jungle objectives. However, I find it a bit awkward since is a  item. It may still be worth it since the gains from are a bit scrappy when you aren't investing in only tankiness.

That said, when using Hybrid, the option to use remains open. I haven't tried it though. I'm imagining +  would be an interesting combination. Even if its synergy with would be limited by its 3 autoattacks, cleaving minions even faster would make up for that limitation easily.