Talk:Garen/@comment-4542190-20151102094717

The only one out of the 4 recently "reworked" (some were just buffed and others just nerfed imho) juggernauts who saw no interest whatsoever at Worlds- except 1 or 2 troll hovers. Yeah, Skarner was low too but at least he got picked some games-and Kakao isn't just your random average Joe (despite not performing as most expected him to). That and that he is the least played overall in probuilds.net (with lowest win-rate) out of the 4. This tells a lot I believe.

Also, if all the changes on PBE go through and crit chance from Youmuu's gets removed (RIP my favorite item if that happens) how exactly is he supposed to benefit from the fact that Judgment can crit? What are you supposed to build? Infinity Edge (which will get nerfed but still cost considerably) or just some other marksman item (and Garen relies mostly on his abilities for damage, as well as everyhting else, not his auto attacks) ? Sure, 15% chance sounds low, is low compared to what other items give, but still, something is better than nothing.

Rito keeps gutting him... Directly on indirectly... :'( And I remember reading after the most recent change (his lane opponent killing him won't make the latter the Villain) a Rioter saying: " There's some worry that we've stripped a lot of lane power from Garen and that this will leave him particularly weak, but if that turns out to be true, I'd prefer to address it in the future by just putting some power back into his early game. " My thoughts on that are : "stripped a lot of lane power from Garen, particularly weak" you don't say Captain Obvious? And still nothing...