Talk:Pantheon/@comment-87.172.197.115-20120619080448/@comment-87.172.199.172-20120624083720

^if you jump in on their carry (whats mainly your only reason to exist in lategame), they will. And team-play in LoL is quite limited in terms of rescue, kayle and zilean aside there are no real lifesavers like a monk in guild wars etc. that could hold you up even while 12 enemys are bashing on a squishy target. also, panth isnt important, once he jumped in and used his E he's basically useless in teamfight.

to the fact how usefull garen is: he actually is an offtank you cant just ignore, as his spin deals big dmg+counters cc, while is q has relatively long silence. a panth may jump into a enemy team while garen has to flash or walk, but garen is way more annoying as you cant take him out in a blow and have to decide to either focus him down and risk a few free hits from the enemy team (= sense of tank fulfilled) or have him inside your team dealing cosiderable damage and a badass finisher.