Talk:Shen/@comment-4934699-20130810141623/@comment-5955640-20130902221152

I'm actually worried about that nerf to Shen's ult. Now most global stuff are getting removed which I find sort of worrying because like if Shen is up for grabs then Soraka and Karthus are next and that would cripple them hard.

All of the sudden this high utility ability that's helpful at all stages really only comes into play in teamfights. Cause like if Shen is already there his ult is less effective because you can just CC him. Being halfway or all the way on the otherside of the map lets him be safe and rush into combat while possibly saving an ally.

This makes it to where he can't help bottom lane and return to his lane with a teleport or the like. Probably very fair but now who are you going to use the ult on? The mid laner? Cause I assume the spell is just going to be Twisted fate's gate range. And you would have to walk out of your lane to do it for the most part.

You can't split push and show up in lane either. In a lot of ways this evens the playing field for people who can do some of the stuff Shen does for a team but ends up paying for it with a lost team fight or a lost turret but man.

Basically it allows for far more counterplay against him but really lowers his utility to a team. There would be very little reason to use him over a good duelist. A high powered split pusher. Or a tank with lots of CC or a support with good sustain. Jungle Shen might be all right though.