Talk:Kog'Maw/@comment-26489540-20161207142932

Wow, not only do they go through with the ap reduction on his e they reduce the base daamge as welll.... and this with the rylais nerfs in the same patch (a core item that paired with ludens to let him kite effectively with his ult)

I love their justification in the patch notes though... 'his Mage build bounced back a bit too well' BULLSHIT. It was VIABLE for a change, not overpowered. And i notice this is the same patch where Viktor, Orianna and Syndra were completly fucking ignored, despite being ludicrously strong. One might point to the rylais nerf but lets be real here, they were strong enough without rylais (except viktor maybe, E second damage is quite reliant on that) and the rylais nerf hurts the VAST majority of midlaners, again excepting those who dont use it or spike off of ryalis liandries (in which case the gold cost reduction might be a bufff? maybe?)

To clarify, Kog'maw had a decent winrate and low pick rate in most regions as a mage. From the op.gg data from 6.23, EuW PR: 1.31%, WR: 52.4%, Korea PR: 0.44%, WR: 48.65%, NA PR: 1.23%, WR: 51.49%

With pickrates that low, those winrates ae perfectly acceptable, as it shows that he has a small player base that know what they're doing. Hell in korea where his PR is lowest he had a negative WR.

Let's look at those same stats, over the same period, for Viktor. EuW PR: 11.81%, WR: 50.38%, NA PR: 13.21%, WR: 50.46%, Korea PR: 23.71%(!!!!!!!), WR: 49.64%.

Now whilst his WR's look balanced, his pickrates are horrifically high. A 23% PICKRATE IN KOREA. Like if a champion is being picked in 1 in every 5 games, I think you need to take a closer look at the champion, winrate be dammed.

One last comparison, I looked at Malzahar. He has higher pickrates in every region (over double kogs PR in EuW, and his are higher in other regions as opposed to kogs being lower) and a higher WR in NA and Korea (53.87% and 54.67% respectively). He has a 1% lower winrate in EuW.

By rights, malzhar has a much higher pick and a mostly much higher winrate than kog, yet is also untouched this patch. And he's one of the rylais builders who actually might get stronger this patch due to the faster ryalais liandries spike.