Talk:Vayne/@comment-3093341-20110517201616/@comment-3358335-20110518185259

Being able to defeat a champion does not make the champion less OP. OP does not mean invincible. It means stronger than the average strength of the champion Pool.

I could defeat Nocturne on his release, in fact I had very little difficulty defeating him. That did not make him less OP.

Conversely, I won a lot of games with Urgot before he got buffed. Many Many more than I lost. That did not make him any less Under-powered.

Nuthak, your arguments are based on that she can be beat, that does not make a case in one direction or the other.