Talk:Veigar/@comment-4140664-20110814102553/@comment-94.156.18.156-20110822213336

You must be playing against one hell of a team that can dodge all that fiery crap when a team fight has broken out. Just saw a Brand today pull out an ace with a full combo. Snuck up from the side while the tanks were engaged in the front and nuked the squishies while finishing it off with Pyroclasm. No one can convince me that you can just "side step" Brand's combo while in the middle of the fray. He's gonna get a couple of players at the very least with a full combo.

I'm not someone who has been playing this game since beta in 2009, but I do know the basic mechanics of the mages I'm talking about here, Veigar and Brand.

We can debate for 10 more pages and each of us would still be crying "Brand is better! NO, Veigar is better!", but they've both got their uses.

Veigar is the anti-squishy nuke with a mass stun and Brand is an equally capable nuker who can carry games if fed.