Talk:Udyr/@comment-86.93.42.202-20120614131730/@comment-3166305-20120623013927

Wrong Phoeniex gives bonus ad and ap the ad improving the ls form wriggles+turtle. Also, In lane, Udyr doen't go phoeniex, in a fight, Fm or REd buff should let you stick to a target for phoeniex to damage them. Stuns work too. After the DoT from tiger, you need a lot of ad to keep the damage going. With poheniex you get the nice ad and ap bonus for a short time, then the passive magic damage. Tiger has better damage 1v1 late game, but Phoeniex is more versitile and easier to build around than a stale Hp Tri-force ad build.