Talk:Vayne/@comment-112.203.0.19-20130214101208

arpen runes are overrated, arpen from masteries and Lwhisper will suffice, you need the bonus +15 AD to not to have a hard time last-hitting, since armor penetration in S3 have been recalculated, you will deal more damage even after armor because you have arpen in masteries, given that ez will take all my auto-attack hits as MF he will die in 7~8 shots cause i deal 80 normals 7 x 80 = 560, and 448 cause we subtracted it by 20% cause of armor. And I love the look at them drinking their pot after being hit just 4 times.

But thats just me cause most of the time I'm ADR, and creeps only have like more/less 10 armor with the arpen from masteries creeps most certainly die at 1/4 or 1/5 health.

I'm am 1700 ELO before the remake maybe not as high as like Dyrus, but just to let you know I am not a random kid making things up, but for some one like Pant's Q who has high base but low AD gain he needs that arpen.