Talk:Last Whisper/@comment-99.8.47.168-20120308031028/@comment-3486816-20120604091420

imo Black Cleaver is better unless you're playing an AD caster or are against a team that's much more on the tanky side than it probably should be. Black Cleaver will actually help against the targets you want to kill quickly (i.e. Carries). There's also the fact that while the effectiveness split is at 113 armor, you pay so much more for LW's % armor pen factor than BC's armor shred factor that the cost effectiveness split is at over 1500 armor (i.e. never). BC also happens to help your teammate's damage instead of just your own, a minor point, but a valid one.

Honestly if you want to counter tanks as a dps, your best bet is probably Frozen Mallet. It'll keep you from dying to burst damage, allow you to kite them, and keeps them from escaping after a teamfight by simply surviving with their bulk. As a tank player, I fear it more than last whisper.

Honestly, the elephant in the room is the fact that everyone that builds defensively is going to have craptons of health compared to their armor anyways since Madred's is (at least considered) a terrible item right now. Until there's a meta shift or buffs to Madred's, there's little point in building last whisper at all.