Talk:Malphite/@comment-4499945-20130216071622/@comment-5587704-20130220080619

^Now go and check actual numbers. Malph has higher flat base damage on Q, lower manacost, same range. Elise has her free 8% current hp damage, lower CD. While Malph has higher hp, scaling mr and his passive wich is hard to refresh but its doable. If you dont get poked to death you are fine as her trade damage is on hit based. You should understand that ranged opponents have an upper hand in lane by defenition, you arent gonna have a good time against them, ever. You can somewhat keep up in farm, you can kill them once or twice by forcing good trade or due to gank but it always be a suffering to lane against a ranged opponent. Buy some mres, buy pots, pop pots when at around 50% hp, play super carefuly, if its gets dangerous go in bushes to stay in exp range and regenerate your shield, and your maxed Qs still hurt her.