Talk:Liandry's Torment/@comment-5561377-20121122140603/@comment-62.226.29.25-20121127175206

I saw him having a just-as-hard-start on a jungle vid in s2, interestingly most junglers seem to be with machete+5pots as they were with boots+3pots in S3, save for guys like fid who totally skyrocketed in junglability. Since then Naut got a 20hp shieldbuff through all levels (100/150/.../300) which may even out things again.

Also I don't find his S2 start that bad, but then again I am one of those oldschool guys that starts regrowth(which will be deleted)+pot and skipped the medium golems (least rewarding/most risky camp) at all times.

I am pretty interested in how the S3 jungle will play out for me ultimately. As i said, many junglers seem to be still quite the same when switching to machete+5p with the exception of regen-junglers being more save (as I have seen it many routes weren't THAT save in S2 to begin with, with a few go-to exceptions, i.e. Mao/Lee/Skar) than before.