Thread:PrimusMobileVzla/@comment-11200708-20180821010336/@comment-7709681-20180821051726

Gamefreak776 wrote: Wait, I thought Fizz was a yordle and his city was recently destroyed by the gigalodon dragon sharks?.

Anyway, you said the first Great Void War happened after Mount Targon's foundation. Serylda also visited Targon during ancient times, too (probably to conquer it, but she was silenced by Myisha/Zoe first incarnation.) So there is a small window that the void in the Freljord appeared before the ocean rift, or even before the Marai race came to existance. The appearance of the Watchers in the Freljord may have been the cause of the creation of the rift in the ocean, which led to the Marai race bargaining with the Targonians. Ivern also existed in the time of the Iceborn, too, and sailed to Ionia, where he encountered Vastaya. These could be first generation vastayans that also fled to Ionia during Ivern's lifetime due to the current threat of the Watchers. Nope, states that Fizz woke to find Bilgewater founded and thriving, that means that he must have slumbered for at least a millenia if not more.

I do find plausible for how Lissandra's lore is phrased that the "first twilight" that muted Serylda is the first Aspect of Twilight, but that Serylda wanted to conquer Targon seems like a stretch, do however think there's a strong reason as to why would The Trickster of that time shun Serylda (perhaps she was the first mortal to ask aid of the Celestials after the Void War, Celestials had enough of that, and sent the Trickster to deliver the message that would not intervene in the deeds of mortals ever again other than for their personal gain as the messenger entity that It is). Again, they were born after the events of the Great Void War, even after the world settled down, Serylda shouldn't even be an Iceborn.

Also, the bargain was made by a Lunari to the Marai, not viceversa. They knew of the rifts in the ocean floor and offered a deal to the Marai to keep the Void at bay in their behalf as the Lunari couldn't do so themselves. It wasn't something the Marai planned, up until that point the Marai were hunted by the Leviathans, the Lunari that offered to infuse stones with the (Celestial of the) Moon's power to them was godsent.

Ivern went to Ionia gain power to the dethrone the Iceborns, not the Watchers themselves, that puts his story during the prime of the Three Sister's reign when they were still the main threath and were serving the Watchers.