Talk:VPBE/@comment-24385282-20160225215630/@comment-24385282-20160229221923

It's high damage, but it's tied to a skillshot that can be dodged or missed (it's not instantaneous, either), and in comparison to similar skillshots, its range is relatively short and its cooldown is relatively high. I don't want Riot to buff AP, I just said it was disappointing that they didn't. I don't expect them to, I don't think they should, I just know it would make it more fun without making it toxic, so it's disappointing for them not to do it.

This argument is pointless, I've said we should just agree to disagree already - it's all about our opinions and what we think is toxic or not. I don't see AP J4 as toxic because I believe his playstyle is and deals a lot of damage without dealing so much as to be called OP. You see him as toxic because you believe the playstyle is unhealthy because its success can be partially dependent on your enemies building the wrong type of defenses or J4 having enough damage of both types for it to potentially not matter.