Talk:Gragas/@comment-5599586-20121107115204/@comment-86.52.68.161-20121109191557

U mainly just have to think about how u use him. he brings way more poke then orianna. and his ultimate is extremly good to pick out a target if u can use it right.

But if u use Orianna with someone like malp, mao or noc jungle who just goes into the entire enemy team with your ball on them then she is way stronger and brings more to the team