Talk:Swain/@comment-174.57.25.48-20110112201552

Swain's WEQ combo costs more than Cho's spell combo. Take Swain's Ult into consideration and it becomes even more lopsided. Cho is melee, but his melee deals damage in an aoe line once you get vorpal spikes. I'm not sure how close they are in terms of "bursty healing" but cho being able to clear a saturated creep wave with two spells should compete with Swain's Nevermove and his ult that targets three creeps.

Swain's innate really is just a weaker version of Cho's innate. Cho gets less mana, but he trades that for free HP. His innate and Torment's range should be tweaked and then he'd be a solid champ. Swain's come a long way but AP tweaks grant a champ power improvement, not necessarily additional tactical uses.