Talk:Kayle/@comment-26044269-20150410115319/@comment-25447003-20150426020442

Could not log in with FB some days ago so my answer might be late, but here it goes.

@Simoncr1s:

If I could have built full dmg I would have taken Runann, but in that game my side is squishy team comp (the most tanky champs were Kayle & Riven). So the HP of Rylai will help (against magic dmg Brand/Morg & true dmg Darius), and the slow on-hit will make it easier for my team to peel or deal dmg.

I'm not sure about how the result would be with Runann but anyway that game we managed to make a comeback (had been a little behind for awhile).

@MakoShiruba:

A rework sounds promising, yet I believe Kayle was re-worked a few times already. Looking at other champions, the rework result seems to be "success" when that champ is considered stronger (Sion, Nidalee, Maokai, Xerath, Cassiopeia); otherwise it seems a failure (Soraka, Tristana, Skarner).

Why don't just buff her a bit? Many champs who were nerfed significantly in S4 already got some love back (Jax, Ryze, Yasuo, Gragas, LeBlanc, Evelynn, Shyvana, XinZhao, etc...). Kayle's main damage: the E skill (AA enhancement) has pathetic ratio compared to other champs AA-enhancement: Teemo's E, ChoGath's E, Fizz's W, Orianna's innate, ... even the "third attack" of Diana, Xin, Jax, Yi, ... are better given enough attack speed.

And the "best buff" 5% AP is just a reduction from overnerf, was probably related to the Riot skin.

I just love playing with her but would not want to wait for years like Olaf or some new skins. Meanwhile if I kept playing her now I struggles against some champs who were never a problem pre-nerf (Nasus, Katarina, Fizz, etc...), not to mention the hard matchups.