Talk:Jarvan IV/@comment-79.9.101.139-20120625154122/@comment-4900160-20120625161324

To solve this problem, I never use/put a point in W until level 13. Philo stone is a nice item on J4 for solo top, really, but I try to be less dependant on it, because once you manage to perform well without it, it allows you to rush your core items much faster.

Triple GP10 Jarvan is a great opener, but it makes you kinda weak during mid game compared to someone who rushed a phage or a wriggles.