Talk:Swain/@comment-14910471-20131029191447/@comment-15244341-20131218131733

See, I said Fiddle will work, because he duels you to hell and back with fear no matter his ratios. This I did not argue against. Swain? His disables MOVEMENT. Notice how his auto range is LOWER than his snare. Did you know that snares don't prevent autoattacks? And that he has LOWER RANGE in his autoattack than probably 95% of the ADCs? And that he has terrible defensive stats? And that his animation, attack speed and attack speed growth are cringeworthy? And that his E has a cast range that lets you get out if you have jumps and minimal reflexes? Say like Cait, Ez, Lucian, Corki, Graves... Notice how he has no 3 second fucking stun to get 3 seconds of unopposed DPS.

Yes you can go Cassiopea ADC in a normal. No that is not a good a idea and any guy that has a fucking clue as to what the hell he is doing will fuck your shit up because Cassio can't duel at Caitlyn's range with autoattacks, her spells deal no damage in midgame without AP and her stat growths ADC wise are freaking terrible. Yes you can go ADC Swain, but you will get poked and/or bursted the second you step in a botlane. Yes you can go ADC Fiddle, but gl killing any smart opponent that gets cleanse instead of barrier (which the guy in your example should have done, plus kiting you because Caits threat range is insane). There are weird things that work (blitz support) and weird things that don't (ADC Swain).

By the way: 80% of the midlaners can't duel for shit in the early game. THAT is why they have midlane for them, so that they can escape (shortest lane) and farm/get kills/whatever in a 1v1 situation without a Leona+Corki jumping on them and mashing their skulls in in a 2v2.