Talk:Graves/@comment-168.184.220.3-20120417181130/@comment-176.10.220.32-20120419072348

I don't really agree with ashe being a beginner carry because you have to know how to use your ult properly (unlike graves where it is basically just added burst) and the W isn't as strong as Graves Q, add to that the very simple combo of Quickdraw + Buckshot dealing even more damage and you really see that Graves is a lot easier. Graves was my first 6300 IP purchase and my third carry after Sivir and Ashe and i did much better with Graves as a beginner. He should probably be recommended but that won't happen at his current IP price.