Talk:Fizz/@comment-5663427-20150202132717/@comment-2142350-20150225085100

Yes, his W+Q did too much damage with a full build and Lich Bane and landing his ult wasn't required. And that's the only thing that they needed to address, not gut his entire kit. He has a terrible laning phase, no ranged poke or ranged farming skill, no hard CC in his basic skills.

Making him ult reliant is a big, fat joke. Zed is similarly reliant on his ult, only his is not a skillshot, and also comes equipped with a Fizz E to dodge everything, and a teleport back to safety regardless if you succedd or fail. At the same time, Zed is AD, doesn't use mana, he can farm all day with his passive, as if being AD already wasn't enough, his Q is great for poking through minions and safely farming from range, and he can feed all day in lane or fail to kill his lane opponent, yet still be able to splitpush and take objectives.

Talon is a similar story, and even though he has some mana problems, he still has ranged poke, and, again, the blessings of being AD.

Finally, this wasn't a role change, Riot didn't want to make his an AD top lane bruisher, there was no communication about in, as oppossed to what happened with Gragas' changes. Even flavour-wise, Fizz is not suppossed to stand face-to-face to his enemies and poke them with his trident. No, in their mind, the current AP Fizz is in an acceptable statem, when he and Akali are garbage right now, while Katarina gets away with a slap on the wrist, as if that insignificant change to her passive makes any difference to her playstyle, and Zed has received no changes whatsoever.

But we're talking about a team that was surprised that people would think to build AS with Kalista to boost her passive. Attack Speed, an absolutely vital stat for all ADC...