Talk:Ekko/@comment-5077844-20150527201305/@comment-24613667-20150528111512

Yes, his E does have a low base value, but that's his only one.

Passive proc - 231 base damage + [70% AP]

Q - (120 + [20% AP] on the way out) + (160 + [60% AP] on the way back} = 280 total base damage + [80% AP]

W - 330 base shield health + [80% AP]

R - (500 base damage + [130% AP]) + (200 base heal + [30% of damage taken + 1% per 30 AP])

With 600 AP (he is an assassin, after all):

Passive deals: 231 + 420 = 651 damage [passive stacks can be applied by an auto-attack or ANY damaging ability]

Q - 280 + 480 = 760 damage

W - 330 + 480 = 810 shield health

E - 120 + 170 = 290 [still kinda high for a targeted (ie: unavoidable) ability]

R - 500 + 780 = 1280 damage // 200 + (30% + 20% of damage taken) = 200 heal + 50% of damage taken [variable, obviously]

Are you really gonna try and argue that those numbers are balanced, especially when two of them are targeted (passive + E) and the others are very hard to avoid (Q slows and follows Ekko, R is nearly instantaneous)? As I said on Surrender@20, the only difficult aspect of his kit is setting up his W, but even then you can just walk into the circle (if it's active) for a free shield.