Talk:Talon/@comment-7846894-20130604204556/@comment-9533487-20130607014005

Does Talon take as much skill as Zed to play? I would say so, he has less range on his poke and less mobility options in front of him. A better question; does Zed need as much skill as Talon? Not that I could tell, if you are Zed then you have only a few things you need to know: when to conserve energy for ult, when to kill someone without it, and when/where to use the shadow. As Zed, if you're looking to help do aoe dmg in teamfights, you're gonna have a bad time. You should just run once you blow your energy into your ult. If you're Talon and a teamfights about to go down, it's ALL about where you ult, where you position after ult, and not just killing one person then being useless-you're applying BC stacks and then making them stick with your DoT to help the other ad teammates, you can chunk like 2-5 ppl with your W every 6-8 seconds, and best of alll you can prevent a ton of retaliation during a fight with your silence. The thing about laning phase is not just knowing when to trade--its largely knowing how to position. If you position too far, they think you're scared, so they will poke before you can fight back. If you are close, you're a threat that can easily trade back with W, and on many mids just plain blink to them and walk away after combo. They don't want to keep taking that, so they WILL have to choose cleverly when to poke you, or take enough damage for your jungle to turret dive (they can't know if he will stop by or not). If you are smart about it, you will outtrade them and on some mids get a kill lvl 3. Since you scale mostly off BONUS ad you might just straight up want to rush it. I wouldn't worry about armor pen until they get significant additional armor. Talon has some of the best ganks ever due to his silence, slow, and ult. Kha may be a bit better at turret dives though, after evolve wings... but his ratios<Talons, so if you dont find someone isolated you're in trouble. Zed is too much about himself, and getting one kill at a time for the most part, so I feel like it doesn't matter too much if he has better burst with his ult--besides, Talon is better without his ult than Zed without his, and his is on lower cooldown regardless. Also it would really tick me off if someone were able to QSS all the damage from the mark, or spellshield the ult so I didnt even get a third shadow.