Talk:Lucian/@comment-24302145-20140620204109/@comment-24798873-20140621234657

these numbers look reliable, but i just want to add that when ur opponent has BT and u start to fight, u wont hurt him directly, due to his shield, whereas u will be damaged immediately. Other than that it looks like its worth a try, and it gives another way to escape these pesky junglers. do keep in mind that ur ult, even if it has more shots, does less dmg. so that is less dmg to fast clear the wave to push their turret/force objective/save objective, etc. and yes, 5% lifesteal isn't THAT huge of a difference. but u still lose 55 AD comapred to BT, so the health restored from it is also lower. In addition to that, if you're target gets lower and lower, u will deal less dmg (not a very huge amount, but its still there). Im not sayign that botrk rush is bad, i might try it myself, but follow this scenario

- Lucian vs typical BT laner (let's pick draven here just bcs DRAVEN)

The two get in a skirmish, and lucian uses the combo, while draven keeps AA'ing with his Q, along with his AS steroid. This is not a fight to the death btw.

then the two resort to farming again. do note that supports are completely factored out here.

Draven will restore his health way faster than lucian does, and from then he is practically able to force lucian to farm under turret.

Now this is ofc a stupid way to show it since, they didnt fight to the death, or tried to attack each other while farming. But im just trying to show the factor of sustaining here.

As ive said before, botrk isnt that bad, but the damage from it is not very consistent, especially since the long cd on it's active. And if ur opponent is aware of ur cd's

they can force a fight and come ahead out of it. That's all i wanted to say