Talk:Fizz/@comment-212.117.1.33-20120724150946/@comment-80.15.143.26-20120803124034

no offense but you forget fizz passive it will reduce the AA damage  from an AP a lot

and with E + Q he'll get in range if you finish the AA animation

actually ryze does counter fizz i played him vs fizz a couple time and facerolled him

what you are saying is true:  he'll get in melee before your snare is done

sadly  you'll snare  back off then combo , you'll have a roughly equal trade , thats where ryze  ult comes in : heal back everything and his ult is like  up every 20-30 seconds because of his passive and CDR so in the end you'll be full life and him mid-life  and zone him because if he gets close enough to last hit he'll get owned because he can't pick the fight

btw about solo top:

i'm seeing a lot of xin zhao mid lately,   his  broken AD burst + mages low armor+ gap closer and bump = easy win lane against lots of ap carries