Talk:Jarvan IV/@comment-3166305-20120904153530/@comment-4929329-20120906020429

^Thanks for catching me on that one, I had just come back from a long hike and my brain was fried.

@Nash, that's like saying an AD Carry isn't affected by armor, because that's how she builds, for the most part. Most champions aren't wrecked by armor anyways. Olaf, Irelia, Jax, Lee Sin, Jarvan, Wukong, Yorick, basically anyone has a way around armor. Some have Magic/True damage, others have sustain + Steroid or a Debuff. Now, I'm tossing in Debuff there because this is about trading with your opponent, and being able to trade with your enemy is what determines whether or not you win your lane. Which is probably why Renekton is a top lane Nightmare.

Are you seriously telling me that when you farmed, you bothered building tons of armor instead of the damage you'd obviously need to fight her? The only reason Riven is good is probably because people are too scared to abuse her CDs and melee nature. Your ghouls should have made her life misreable when she goes to last hit. Even with her dashes, I've beaten her every single time I've played Teemo vs her because unlike other champions, Riven cannot afford or is unable to harass and last hit at the same time.