Talk:Riven/@comment-4964269-20130202141412/@comment-5.83.71.124-20130203025433

... Usually I agree with you ShatteredBow, but this time I have to disagree.

"Rivens shield will scale off AD no matter how many lvls you put in it." Same goes for Broken wings. Maybe you don't know how her kit works? First of all, Q goes at level 1 always, that's sure. Q is core on her kit because it is the skill that procs her innate more times, which is her main source of damage. On the other hand, Q's non-AD damage is little-to-nothing, and doesn't gets any better thingies when leveled up. What does that mean? That you're only going to use it to proc innate, hit, cancel animation, and keep the combo. At best, you'll use it to proc AoE TBC as many times as possible, something that still can be done with rank 1 Q.

"nobody maxes W anymore, and if they do, they dont do it for the damage. after the nerfs to it there is absolutely no reason to max it out first." Incredibly wrong. You're right about that they don't do it for the damage, but just that. The disruption Ki shout offers is invaluable and AoE. Against some lanes will be crucial to get it on rank 5 as soon as possible due that fact. Plus, most of the times, you can open a trade with W, shoot out your combo, and then W again to secure the kill, something that can't be done without ranking it as fast as possible.

And the shield, early on, will be necessary in other cases where you can be hard harrassed by your contender, specially now that stacking Doran's is not worth and that getting AD early on is harder with just farm. 190 shield HP is nothing to laugh at early.

To the OP: Most of the times, you'll want W maxed first, but sometimes, E will be better, like, per example, against Gangplank. A lucky Gangplank can wreck the sh*t out of you even earlier thanks to it's Parrrley, and I can guarantee you that most of the times your shield will not survive. Riven's best weapon is adaptability, use that in your favour.