Talk:Ryze/@comment-28529352-20160824023656/@comment-26203093-20160824160628

I'm not telling you to not get cdr - I'm saying you should probably get it elsewhere.

But yeah, the permaslow is ridiculous but only has value so long as you can isolate people - at least that's my verdict. In team fights so much CC gets thrown around that your permaslow isn't actually that impressive. Also isn't perma if you get cc'd too.