Talk:Shen/@comment-973379-20160122105959/@comment-973379-20160124073031

Yes, I know who can counter ranged pokers top - another toxic ranged pocker(like, well, Jayce or Yoric). It's just sad that now when I play top I have one less options to choose from in normal games(where I don't know what I will play against).

It's  not "oh so op" for pros cause their junglers are good and will gank any reckless top pocker who push to far.. At my gold 2 it's pure luck - there could be some pro who'll show that squishy Vayne top a way to hell and force her to road it or some "I'll farm till 30 min, kk team?".

And no smart ranged champ top will push. Thay will CS with AA and never push too much till lvl 6-7.. And then it's too late already, cause they have 1 item more.(hey, I did it too many times, when knew that our jungler love counterjungling and locking enemy one in constant battles so he couldn't gank and it's fun - just not for the receiving side - nor it's any way fare - and then top Vayne build tank with triforce, botrk, GA and sterack and god help you then..)