Talk:Elise/@comment-3035733-20130723001526/@comment-7967732-20130724142918

You are utterly stupid to underestimate the nerf. The biggest nerf is that she will no longer land when the enemy leaves the circle. E will be half decent for chasing (go up and down right after) but it will no longer be useful to wait for Q to come back even with max CDR (as by that time the enemy has already gone far away). For jungler elise, they see you sooner, run away from circle and guess what? you are just having a trip in the sky (cuz you can't land on any one outside the range and her E has always been buggy to give enough time for them to run) => Gank fail. Top Elise is still a lane bully since her poke, her high damage is still there. Though good luck on finishing anyone.

Viable? Any champ in this game is viable. 40% win rate of Olaf still means he can win games often, same goes with Shaco, LeBlanc or the queen of nerf Irelia. But strong or weak, in a good or bad spot... can be decided. None can say "Olaf is still a strong pick". This is not a Riot forum and no one from balancing team would give a damn of what is discussed here so QQ what? All the "QQing" of us (if you like to put it that way) are what we pointed out for the guy and convince him not spending quite a sum on a champ that will be weak soon