Talk:Karma/@comment-4136460-20150604213054/@comment-3546228-20150605155042

Where did you get those stats from (the winrate %)? The changes were hardly a buff, they just mostly switched her power around. I'm really curious.

Second, the damage you lose on RW is far more than 20-30. It was flat bonus damage. The damage you gain with the 0.3 extra ratio is something along those numbers, but you'll hardly ever have insane amounts of AP as Karma (because as you said, you have to focus on CDR items).

The general direction of what you're saying is true - she got buffed hard cooldown wise. They did that with the specific intention of buffing support Karma (which they did). You can spam Mantra a lot in late game teamfights, and sometimes win them by doing just that. The thing is, Karma has been doing that already. She wasn't weak before the changes. She could already RE> damage 5 people > RW someone. The extra root duration is really cool. The loss of damage on RE means she won't have another Mantra that soon. That's not cool.