Talk:Champion classes/Specialist/@comment-36591250-20180815062310/@comment-39517264-20191212124032

I'm the guy who made this comment a year and a half ago, i'd like to aport a few retrospective changes.

0. I'll redefine torturers more simply as "Ranged champions who trade raw damage for the ability to draw out fights and maximize long term damage efficiency".

1. Cho'Gath -> Juggernaut / Burst mage. Tribrids are assinine, battle mages usually have more AoE and rely rely less on straight-up health for their tankiness. Juggernauts specifically lack gap-closers and are more effective at short range.

2. Heimerdinger -> Battle mage. he doesn't have a lot of tools to draw out fights and his turrets having low placement range disqualifies him from the first criteria of torturers.

3. Kennen -> Burst mage / Battle mage. Nothing to do with torturers, he's just a different fiddle. Dunno what i was thinking on that one.

4. Cassiopeia -> Battle mage / Battle mage. As per User:MrIASA's comment. Sustained damage, coupled with cc against people explicitely aproaching her and bonus movement speed for improved kiting. Still she's manavore and has the healing and aoe of a battle mage.

5. Zyra -> Catcher. (Unchanged). As per User:Rustywind's comment. Zyra's cc is mostly used to begin or in the of fights, not to extend them. Her plants also have an expiration time and a long recharge cooldown, limiting her effectivenes in very long fights.

6. Kindred -> Torturer. Her ult is one one of the best fight stallers in the game. she has lower dps than most marksmen but benefits long term from her %health damage and w passive stacking that i didn't even know she had until today.

7. Kalista -> Marksman / Torturer. Passive and ult to stall, but the only. her auto only deals 90% of her ad so you know she traded her raw damage.

8. Karma -> Enchanter / Catcher. not enough damage to be a burst mage, let's be real.

9. Lissandra -> Battlemage. C'mon rito, that one's obvious.

This brings the total amount of torturers to 7, namely Azir, Cassiopeia, Gnar (Mini), Kalista, Kayle, Kindred and Teemo.