Talk:Rengar/@comment-10181887-20130722115913/@comment-12998666-20130722125312

Hi, I'm a new forum poster but long time rengar player. Anyways, one of the reasons was because rengar as a jungler was terrifying to every lane 6 and post 6. As you said, "kills you with a few Q's" is quite a frustrating to play against. Considering that his stealth grants 20% ms and lasts for 7s. You cannot efficiently pink ward all the possibilities he may come from. I quote from Xelnath, who is in design with Scarizard for the Rengar updates

"TF, Shen, Fiddlesticks, Pantheon, Nocturne, etc. Even Kha'zix to an extent.

They *all* have a warning and telegraph that they are about to do it. Even Eve, the bonafide stealth champ, reveals herself before attacking you. Rengar is the only one who breaks the "warning" rule. Furthermore, he doesn't just show up. He shows up and triple Qs you in the worst case. Rengar violates a core value of our design philosophy that exists everywhere else."

I agree that this removes the unique feel to his ult, as a avid rengar fan. But I can sympathize with the community with the frustration rengar makes.

TLDR: Rengar's burst with invi is frustrating to play against