Talk:Veigar/@comment-10880231-20140416060827/@comment-5955640-20140516170415

It wasn't that big a deal. It certainly is a lot of mana but the idea is not to pester people Sona style it's to take a nice chunk anytime the stun hits them and you gotta be clever with the stun application as well otherwise it's just a zoning tool. You don't use the Q and W either. Q OR W. In fact almost never W and you usually just Q to get the relic proc and a stack. The stun is for the Marksman to poke with and they will do just that. After you get a Chalice it's no problem at all to play in that sort of manner.