Talk:Vayne/@comment-9775822-20160715033751/@comment-1920550-20160719215255

Waveclear is a very big and core issue lategame. Look at the ADC's being played atm? Lucian, Ashe, Jhin and the queen herself Sivir have immense waveclear either through in-kit AOE or synergy with Runnan's. Even the oddball Twitch can clear waves at a decent pace with Runnan's-W-E combo.

There's also the fact that Vayne can't teamfight for shit...try and get within 550 range of a Lissandra without a QSS or a lategame Kassadin or Azir. Or a top lane Naut or Gnar or Poppy. She has no base values, no ranged spells and no AOE. Her entire power is laser focused on single target lategame DPS. Now because of the way Vayne works, this makes her work as a pseudo-assassin, because she reaches a point where she can 3-shot anyone in the blink of an eye. But that also means she has the same core problem the assassin class has: 0 utility and extreme single target damage, meaning outside of isolated assaults or small/uneven numbered skirmishes, she can deal with all the crap that can get thrown at her face. Thus is the reason why most assassins are relegated to split-pushing post-laning phase, because it forces 1v1 scenarios, which are the assassin's wheel house. Except the ADC is meant to be one of, if not the primary damage source for his team. So you have 2 conflicting playstyles.

You want damage that can't be countered by tanks? Kog does it better than Vayne by a landslide. with the added bonus of doing it to an entire team. You want a season where Vayne isn't good? You had the latter half of season 5 and this entire season so far. I've seen 3 Vaynes in my ranked games since the season started.