Talk:Jarvan IV/@comment-15562896-20121116205714

Just tried Jarvan IV in the s3 jungle on PBE, he's surprisingly good. My path was wolves > blue (smite, lvl2) > wraithes > wolves (lvl 3) > red (smite), I started Machete's hunter & 5 pots, 9/21 masteries (blabla..), and i cleared actually quite fast.

Killed red after 3:43, which is amongst the best clearing times, better than Lee Sin himself (it's due to the fact that you have to go w 2nd on lee if you're on your own in this jungle, and thus can't jump over the wall to travel faster, but still).

Wriggles might actually not be needed anymore. Spirit Stone, an item that gives you increased damage to creeps as well as HP and mana regen, is probably a better item for Jarvan, especially if you get Philo Stone afterwards (gp10, more hp & mana regen, builds into shurelia's).

I think both stones > aegis > AD upgrade of Spirit stone (mana & hp regen + ad + proc that deals true dmg - works on champions - every 1 sec after every auto attack or spell) > Runic Bulwark (builds from Aegis) > trinity force / shurelia is probably going to be one of the best build for Jarvan as jungler.

Last but not least, creeps actually hit your flag when you drop it. Not sure if it helps Jarvan or not because it dies after 3 attacks, and thus you lose the ar/as bonus from it, but it's still a funny mechanic that at least helps Jarvan's natural sustain problem.

Looking forward to season 3.