Talk:Pantheon/@comment-10891982-20140808235929

I dont get how people say there's no counter play, when i play panth and face an enemy who has normal armour runes and buys cloth armour first (total of around ~40 armour lvl 1), i have difficulty harassing with Q cause either my damage is too low and I would just be wasting mana, or i dont harass and try to freeze lane, and wait for my jungler.

champs like J4, morde(because of shield), shyv, garen are examples of people i have difficulty with

i guess its either im using the wrong runes (i Rune AD red, Armor yellows, scaling magic res blue, and ArPen Quints), or its just that they naturally counter panth?

Opinions?