Talk:VPBE/@comment-8225465-20130416123343/@comment-3360855-20130421114342

Veigar with nearly unlimited AP and gold farming and nearly 0 risk that without a doubt becomes a killer whenever he wants to because he has the items and gained-through-passive-AP to do so? I understand why he's defending his tactic; it's HEAVEN for champs who can farm statistics (Sion and Nasus) and GREAT for those who simply farm gold.

But it's what you guys are saying, the only way to counter it is to use it and make laning phase a boring match of who's the best farmer and who has the champ that makes a transition from a farmer to a killer better. Oh, and Veigar does those two things EFFICIENTLY AS HELL.

150 creeps, let's say you miss 10% of the last hits with your Q, but you get double AP from siege minions,so you end up missing a 5%. That's (Aproximately) 144 minions = 144AP- Now add a no risk playstyle, a "I'm going to burst you so hard you will cry" champ and the power to switch from "farm stance" to "kill stance"...you get hell on Earth and an unfair/unfunny match.