Talk:Graves/@comment-9775822-20151115205611/@comment-5955640-20151116021442

Every gun shot pushes minions and monsters back and the raw damage from each shot actually proc's lifesteal like a regular auto attack except unlike spell vamp where that damage is divied up it's instead taken as one big projectile empowered auto attack. You know how Wukong's Q or Garen's Q ca be used on a single target for little more life steal than normal? Graves has that in his auto attacks. A face full of destiny is basically getting hit with an empowered auto attack so lifesteal is super effective on him.

So to be honest two shots from the destiny should honestly clear the rapters all by itself.

It's not really ironic that Graves can't be an ADC because he is one. He just isn't a bottom lane Marksman. An ADC by the game's terminology doesn't exist. There's jsut Marksmen who deal magic damage and marksmen who attack damage and they go in whatever lane they are best designed for which at this point actually varies from champ to champ as opposed to always being bottom.