Talk:Zyra/@comment-4664737-20180824022215/@comment-17711680-20180929232325

It's players like FeatherPaw here that make comments thread like this great. Thanks for your support.

Anyway I am a Zyra support myself or at least was a Zyra main until recently. I've been playing Zyra since her rework in season 6, but it feels too hard to play Zyra effectively nowadays. Since her rework, I've always thought her plants were how Zyra wins games. Her spell damage was nice, but the plants easily are over half her damge in a given game, especially since I didnt max her Q 2nd in favor of having her W spawn more plants (E<W<Q Skill Order). Ever since they gutted her plant AI and reworked her plant HP values, she's been kind of pointless to play. A typical scenario is that I whiff her E, but land her Q and we lose the game because I whiffed the E. Due to having to max E in lane on support Zyra I feel like every time I whiff her E I basically whiff over half of my damage potential and rely on plant damage as a fail safe, but then the plants die instantly so I basically did nothing in a given trade. I have tried maxing Q 2nd or having 2 or three points in Q before going back to normal skill order; it feels ok but she still has the same problems in the mid and late game. That's not event to mention how her build path this season doesn't feel that great and the power you had early game just seems to fall off untill you hit void staff and the longer your build path is to void staff the weak she feels.

By typing all of this out if feels like Zyra this season despite her buff has a lot of problems that make her too hard to play. I've actually switched to Nami this season because she feel way more consistent and less counterable. Low CDs, big heals, and tons of CC, what's not to love there. If I do ever go back to playing AP mages, I'm probably gonna learn Lux or Brand. Lux has a ton of range and CC while Brand is like Zyra but with your DPS plants built into your spells.