Talk:Veigar/@comment-26359415-20150511154507

Veigar was one of my first mains, since lvl 16 to now (gold 2) <3

I have a 64% winrate with him this season (after his mini-rework) and I can confirm he's underrated. His scaling is just retarded. A 2 man stun literally means the teamfight is won if Veigar's only slightly ahead (followed with W+Q, ofc). He has the worst lvl 1-5 out of all midlaners (seriously, he can't even trade properly), but after the first back (and if he lands his stun. A gank guarantees the stun will land) he can 100-0 ANYONE except cho. lol I just love it.

His rework was actually a buff overall. They literally buffed all his mana costs and cooldowns (ok almost literally). The double Q is incredibly good for farming in laning phase and it's now actually worth it. The double Q means you spend half the mana on farming you used to. Before the rework, it wasn't worth to actually farm more than maybe 10-20 creeps in the laning phase, the rest was used to harass because it was reliable (not a skillshot).

I don't know..The stun changes were healthy IMO, people just love to bash riot and veigar isn't even played by most people. It can still be used as an OP follow-up if the enemy team is together and like I said, multistuns are so damn strong. The only difference is that you can no longer instantly stun people and insta-burst them without counterplay (you can't use it as a reliable engage anymore, either). They turned his laning phase into shit overall (as long as your opponent is not silly to let you farm until lvl 6) but increased his presence in teamfights a lot (lower cooldowns, 2-man + more range on Q).