Talk:Dead Man's Plate/@comment-26877102-20150810224222/@comment-26539937-20150812060337

huh, i usualy get black cleaver first item on garen, he has plenty of wave clear with e and also you get the same amout of movespeed from just last hitting a minion. plus he can realy use the passive and cdr.... and health.... and ad....

i suppose you can get both and wait to last hit a minion with E, then if you have both and boots (assuming you get boots of swiftness) you get 180 move speed plus the 35% increase from Q