Talk:Graves/@comment-178.253.202.148-20120419085951/@comment-86.171.141.6-20120419153040

He's one of the few AD carries that don't revolve around right clicking all day, it's fun dashing in and out of battle, squeezing off devastating buckshots in just the right area, controlling teamfights with your smoke grenades, and then picking off a fleeing enemy with your ult while managing to tear apart the enemy team's health in the process

A fed Vayne can roflstomp around right clicking on stuff, if it's ground she's fine, if it's an enemy it dies, no matter how fed a Graves is there's still a lot of thought involved because he CAN do more than just autoattack and provide more to a teamfight than just picking off single targets

In other words, if you genuinely feel graves to be "zomg nub champ for pplz hu cant play AD carry!" then you're clearly some moron who got owned by him and let him snowball out of control, he's not the hardest carry to play, but he's certainly one of the hardest to play well