Talk:Jarvan IV/@comment-24.69.112.42-20120926200127/@comment-3217613-20120926231909

I usually outcash the carry by 1-2k gold as jungler with only 2 gp10. Doesn't mean I'm good, means they're bad. Anyways even if them were good, I wouldn't fall more than 1-2k behind. This is an acceptable amount of money, I think 3 gp10 can be excesive, as you trade so much early power. However, all three items (assuming philo, hog and avarice) work well on Jarvan on their final items.

Yet still I only run with two. Jarvan is a good jungler to gank often, not to continously farm the jungle. Shyvanna or Sejuani can do better farming than him in that role. And that final build is just stupidly expensive on that minute mark. You have to be feed as hell to have 13-14k gold in items, considering you're not evolving philo and hog. And that build feels preety much squishy, you're jumping into their whole team with your ult in the best case scenario for his role, you can't afford to have a 14k build and only have 45 armor and 25 mresist.

Also, I think Lantern is just a too much valuable item to skip it. It basically lets you solo dragons and steal jungle much faster and safer. Not the mention it acts as a sort of g/10.