Talk:Orianna/@comment-2.102.114.195-20120707185143/@comment-2.102.91.95-20120708134922

(I am OP)

@juStTeX: The base damage was 240 prepatch - at least, that is what both THIS page AND mobafire said when I made that post.

Also, you are completely ignoring the fact that you lose 60 damage but you also lose 1 sec cd so it is in fact the same dps - if not higher. Q was hard to hit? I've never had problems hitting it. It gets exponentially more difficult to hit it the longer you send it but then again, every skill shot is like that.

I've NEVER had mana issues on Orianna. I can hold my own until about level 6 - 7 which is when I have around 20-30% mana (more than enough to get a kill or a jungle gank) and then you can get your second blue.

Really, the gameplay has not changed that much at all. If you were good with her prepatch, you will be good with her postpatch. You just have to focus a bit more instead of blindly flinging the ball. During laning phase I only ever use the ball to get last hits on minions that I won't get or to zone. I can easily duel people 1v1 both pre and post patch and team fights are still the same as normal..