Talk:Shyvana/@comment-5209745-20130614013508/@comment-7803293-20130614065343

"When you go to red buff after clearing the other camps ..."

The thing is, after much comparison , Red start is just way better for the first clear and counterjungling attempts.

And indeed she's squishy but many shyvana player would advise you to go 4/26/0, which i followed for a while , and worked not bad. Now i'm on a much more offensive setup, 15/15/0 , that involves both penetration , and increasing your damage to monster , minions , and turrets while reducing the damage they all deal to you. This is imo the core of shyv's principle as she's meant to splitpush at a time in the game. And hybrid penetration is known to be godlike on her , and it is worth the 15 in offensive imo ;)