Talk:Kayle/@comment-5.83.71.124-20121116024157/@comment-58.111.201.119-20121120065943

Well if you are building items based on what the team needs rather than having a complete focus on 1 role, that's fine too I guess. Not to mention coupled with Nashor's u got ur CDR maxed out, so it acts as a good early to mid game item until u find something else.

Yeah there is a limit to deciphering playstyle just based on statistics like you said. I mean I didn't even know that build was done as a Jungler until you told me. Riot really should show how long the game went and what summoner's were used so that we can betr assess a player.

@Salamis: Darius is easy to shut down with Kayle both pre lvl 6 and lvl 6+. Also, it's not 'dieing' it's 'dying'. Your mentioning of how you die is a good debate there. But you can't forget that Kayle is always a high priority target in many games regardless of the roles she plays. The earlier you shut her down, the smoother your game play. But even then, compared to other Champs like Jax and Irelia, she can still catch up and update her gears in no time cos of her kit. A good Kayle player isn't just about being able to accumulate lots of kills and supporting teams on the fly, it's also about being able to survive numerous ganks.

In most of my regular to good games, I die like at best 2-3 times per game. In games where I decide to play consistently and safely, I nvr die. In my last game I finished a game within 24 mins and the record was 15/0/11. That is an example of what happens when you play with Kayle safely. If you just focus on outfarming and pushing, then you can easily beat up anyone. I was doin so well that I literally told my team's jungler to go help mid and bot and ignore top since I could handle it and the top guy was a Jayce and he was ranked as well (Platinum). Their Jungler came and ganked me like god knows how many times, I always managed to get away and on some occassions got a kill or 2 out of it while barely surviving.

My point is, whether the death was worth it or not, doesn't matter. You gotta do your best to not die. Don't play with that kinda mindset or you will just play with a mediocre performance. Trust me, I know like tonnes of friends of mine who did that in ranked and got crushed in like 8 games cos they played with that kinda mindset. If you play with that in mind all the time, you will nvr improve.