Talk:Ryze/@comment-7818256-20130801233514/@comment-7967732-20130802143544

Lane well vs anyone? Cass, Brand, Ziggs, Zyra, Lux... want some words with you.

OP top? Xin, Irelia, Wukong, Rengar beg to differ.

The rule of just farm safely and wait till you shine late game can work in top lane sometimes, not anymore in mid lane as people harass you and force you to B so easily. Before Ryze was a strong pick with counters. Now he is a mediocre pick with a lot of counters and very few that he can do ok against. His late game isn't affected much, but the way to get to that stage is much more difficult (as it has never, ever been easy to begin with)