Talk:Hecarim/@comment-63.194.113.18-20120420174512

the bad jungler comments seem insane to me. i cleared the entire side with boots of speed and 3 pots the first go starting on blue. other than that he seems like a weak jarvan. with basically the same build requirements. frankly he probably outjungles warwick. you have to build really strong offense tho. problem is you end up with a weak tryndamere by mid lategame.

my initial solo top attempts were pretty weak. philo stone seems like the best first purchase, aka jarvan. and then you end up with a dubiously equal teamfighter. i keep thinking jarvan's utility just outmatches him tho. sure he can aoe damage, but auras and slows seem greater to me.