Talk:Gragas/@comment-5659552-20130131031344/@comment-5587704-20130206171700

Its not about how good champ was, its about is he strong enough to equaly compete with others? Imo AP Gragas is no match for other midlane picks. He was nerfed in "remove toxic champ from play" fashion(Heim style) and not "lets tone him down till he gets balanced"(Shen, Ez, Irelia, Graves etc).