Talk:Garen/Strategy/@comment-50.15.141.7-20120229173602

Before mitigation, the Demacian Justice will deal enough damage to kill a target out right at 22%/25%/28%, at ranks 1/2/3 repsectively. The values at rank 1 and 3 are rough estimates, while rank 2 is an exact value. Remember this is before mitigation of MR and other damage reducing effects.

Also, I have tried crit Garen recently and it proved ineffective, especially since the Q cannot crit and using abilities as crit Garen usually resulted in a lower damage output than auto attacking. Garen likely does not have the item slots required to make it work as the crit is only applied to the bonus damage from AD. Crit runes would be required, and a lot of AD would be required to have it deal more damage than auto attacking, which is hard to do after he breaks 1 attacks per second (which you most likely will assuming you picked up a PD for the crit chance, or Ghost Blade). More testing will be required to know if it is at all possible to get enough crit chance without sacrificing the required damage, until then, straight AD or Atmogs are both simpler, and proven to be viable.