Talk:Veigar/@comment-5225189-20130705085455/@comment-5604411-20130716151522

VPX you dont play Veigar do you. His stun is rather hard to hit more then 2 people Orianna`s R deals more then Veigar`s Q her R has a better AP ratio then. Also Orianna only needs to hit two people to do more damage then Viegars R. Let us look at Trisana`s ult 5 less range only 100 mana MAGIC DAMAGE:  300 / 400 / 500  (+ 150% AP)   KNOCKBACK DISTANCE:  600 / 800 / 1000 does not scale with enemys AP no one QQ that her ult is OP

Veigar`s ult  COOLDOWN:  130 / 110 / 90

Tristana`s ult   COOLDOWN:  60

Orianna`s ult   COOLDOWN:  120 / 105 / 90

Luxanna`s ult   COOLDOWN:  80 / 65 / 50

Anni`s ult   COOLDOWN:  120

Heimerdinger`s ult   COOLDOWN:  120 / 105 / 90

Ryze`s ult   COOLDOWN:  70 / 60 / 50

Ahri`s ult  COOLDOWN:  110 / 95 / 80

Cho`Gath`s ult  COOLDOWN:  60

Xerath`s ult   COOLDOWN:  80 / 70 / 60

Syndra`s ult   COOLDOWN:  100 / 90 / 80

Id says it a little hight but not massive