Talk:Hecarim/@comment-84.108.113.177-20130302100947/@comment-83.244.213.90-20130304102817

it's not that bad tbh, now i start W into Q into E then max Q max E and leave W last...

when you need it it still heals tons (whenever you fight enemy champs) and now you can leave it at rank 1.

and added gank damage from E is quite nice + lower cd for great roam.

what makes heca strong now are items, SotEL + Randuin + FG + SV is just too good, you can mangle most of other chams with SotEL and giants belt, and points about being bad duelist are moot.. you are jungler you gank not duel... and for invades use your wards + teammates