Talk:Vi/@comment-25267058-20150604234442/@comment-26433263-20150607164629

@U N Ovvrn

" Actually, Clyrah, Vis ult is indeed the only ability that has absolutely no counterplay. There are some that have relatively little, but none of them are as powerful as Vi, and all of them still have some counterplay. Vis ult does not. " 

Vi's ultimate is not the only thing without a counter/counterplay. What's the counterplay if Morgana uses Dark Binding at close range, making it impossible to dodge, then she follows up with her ultimate? What's the counterplay to Tristana's ultimate, Trynda's or how would you stop Chogath to getting crazy amounts of HP and then one shotting you easily with an AP build?.

Do you also see a pattern here? Those are ultimate spells, they need to be powerful and most of time reliable, if not reliable they need to compensate with other things. Vi's point and click ultimate is not the problem, in fact Vi is no the problem this meta even. The problem is her 140% bonus AD ratio, it should be reduced but that's it.