Talk:Graves/@comment-8121733-20130707161711/@comment-7095057-20130805165912

So to solve this I'm going to post the math here.

For those wondering I'm assuming the following here:

Standard 21/9/0 Masteries, Standard Flat AD rune page (AD marks and quints only)

Graves A has: A Vamp Scepter, Greaves, and a BFS.

Graves B has: A Vamp Scepter, Greaves, Brutalizer and a Ruby Crystal.

Both are Lvl 9 with a maxed Buckshot.

Enemy has 40 Armor

Graves A will have about 159 AD, 8% armor pen and 5 Armor pen

Graves B will have 139 AD, 18% armor pen and 5 Armor Pen

Graves A's bonus AD is 76, Graves B's bonus AD is 56.

Graves A using his standard QR combo with a max damage Buckshot will do:

340 (+76*1.36) + 250 (+76*1.4) = 799.76 Physical damage.

Against a target with 40 armor.

40-5 = 35

35*.92 = 32.2

Physical Damage reduced: 1-(100/132.2) = .24357 or 24.4%

799.76*(1-.24357) = 604.96 or 605 Physical Damage

Graves B does the same combo

340 (+56*1.36) + 250 (+56*1.4) = 744.4 Physical damage.

Against a target with 40 armor.

40-5 = 35

35*.82 = 28.7

Physical Damage reduced: 1-(100/128.7) = .22299 or 22.3%

744.4*(1-.22299) = 578.406 or 578 Physical Damage

Mathmatically speaking, getting BFS early will provide more burst.