Talk:Heimerdinger/@comment-88.36.199.30-20110608125620/@comment-93.138.86.219-20110609234927

I'm comparing two AP champs. One can nuke down easily anyone, other can hold a lane unless facing counters which aren't rare and nothing else.

And what pressure are you talking about? Grenades are the easiest thing to dodge in the entire game and rockets are problem only if Heimer has minions and you don't in which case he's pushing and gets ganked. Heimer is good for two things - 1v2 and annoying enemy champion in a lane, both of which last only during laning phase. He's horrid after laning phase. HORRID

What support are you talking about? How does he support his team in a teamfight? Throws a nade and then what?

There are far better supports, AP carries and pushers than Heimer. He's good for specific roles which don't last beyond laning phase.

Some champions simply are weaker than others (and should be buffed because of that).