Talk:Zilean/@comment-94.52.124.253-20130130164002/@comment-190.19.250.58-20130202061859

Yeah I also think he needs a buff, and that passive is cool... but I rather have 8% global CDR than the current passive.

He used to be able to rewind allies abilities, but that was too powerful. I made a the math and you would be able to rewind Ashe's ultimate down to 25 seconds or something like that, even with a 5 seconds rewind on allies it was too strong.

My only problem with Zilean is that he doesnt really fit either mid or support role. If you go support, just like I do most of the time with him, your main problem is that you cant harrass as well as Sona or Lulu, you dont have AD or AS buffs like Janna or Taric or Nunu and you dont make your allies tankier like taric or soraka, you just life for the ultimate and without a decent amount of mana regen and CDR it takes forever to get your ultimate again, and you cant go full mana regen and full CDR without wasting your money (AKA you dont get Aegis as soon as you could and you dont get other items as soon as you could because you waste your gold on CDR and mana) So as support you dont do much, and mid you only have 1 damaging ability, yes, with a 0,9 AP ratio, but thats it, you can reset it with your W but a lot of champions can do what he does, hard CC, raw damage, range, he is not superior in any escenario. IMO they should buff the base damage on his Q and give his E a small AS buff/debuff that doesnt increase with ranks. something like 15% AS and 55% MS and change the duration to 2.0 / 2,75 / 3,50 / 4.25 / 5