Talk:Lux/@comment-25223119-20150728103142/@comment-25223119-20150802064728

@Oda,

Sad for you, perhaps you don't see the comparison as a wake up call for Karma players who'd take anything Riot gives them. This is ultimately about Lux though and my argument stays, she does the same thing as Karma with minimial effort. Yes, they don't have the same kit, but they have similar tools. We can argue day and night about what makes Karma superior to Lux, from the cc they have to the kit to the synergy. But we'll end up with the same thing, Lux has what Karma has, no matter how different synergies they have with ADCs or how Karma can bait and Lux doesn't (small details).

My point is simple,

Karma can set up, support, poke, kite, Lux can do all of that equally. We can argue Lux is a better mid laner while Karma is a better support but either way, they were both envisioned to be a mid-support able champion. But Lux takes the gold home because she goes bot lane and can still exert the same amount of pressure that she does in mid. She probably can't save ADCs like Karma does but in many ways, she packs as much pressure or more pressure than Karma. A snared opponent for Lux is as equally feared or probably feared worse than a Karma snaring you. People say Lux SP is utterly useless because she brings no defensive utility to the table, but play her like a Zyra or Annie and you'll giving any ADCs at bot lane fits. Late game she can use her ult to scout, snipe and provide pressure from afar and provides good zoning and poking for sieging purposes and more than enough utility to kite and peel for herself or at least one important role in the team. People say Lux SP's itemization is problematic, but she rushes typical AP items just like Zyra + Annie and even Karma, heck even Sona players some times get one AP item. For Lux, it's Athene. Give her that item and she'll be fine all day, any day. She even roams better than Karma too.

If you still think this is a debate to prove Lux is better than Karma. Sad for you. I'm praising Lux and I think most Lux mainers would find it happy to know that they have a champion who outdoes/performs on par with another champion. While Karma players are stuck defending on how Karma is glorious at bot with very small details and how she's better because she's on LCS.