Talk:Gragas/@comment-177.131.198.208-20121127230253/@comment-4878039-20121128105446

Come on now... First of all he isn't tanky outside of laning. Second of all his poke is fairly dodgeable and his only real CC is the ult, otherwise known as all of his teamfight presence minus 2 barrel rolls. He also has a range limitation in that he's melee and his idea of sustain is 30-90 mana every 25 seconds + a 4-second version of Garen's passive on cast. He's not ridiculously powerful, he's kinda ok although the new ult CD and E mana cost are painful.