Talk:Sejuani/@comment-176.227.154.70-20120520004407/@comment-189.27.229.11-20120522132629

Get your facts straight:

By definition, a good tank is tanky, but just like some carries have to build up damage before dealing high dps, some tanks have to build up some defenses before tanking well.
 * Tank = pick at least three > hard cc + initiation + peeling + over-time threat (usually damage)
 * Tanky = Resistant. By

Shen is a tank with no defensive steroid. He can initiate fights, taunt enemies and peel his allies. while packing rather good dps to prevent him from being ignorable. He relies on items for lasting enough in a fight in order to do his job.

Garen arguably have the best non-ult defensive ability in the game and strong defensive steroids; However, he can't reliable initiate, give good peeling or pack enough CC to be a tank. He is tanky, but he is not a tank.