Talk:Udyr/@comment-9686801-20130628034115/@comment-4677525-20130628080312

Hmm...Tiger Udyr scales extremely well as a damage threat though especially after the changes. I do find that Phoenix Udyr works much better for players who go straight tank (like most junglers tend to do) but Tiger Udyr can snowball extremely hard with some items because of the amazing free damage stats that Tiger Stance provides.

It is the preferred route for toplane since they typically get enough money to get the items they need to stay relevent, however, I've seen Tiger work extremely well even in high elo streams especially since Tiger's early game dueling is peerless (great for counterjungling).

Still, I feel that if your team is decent at closing out games - Phoenix Udyr is more powerful with less expensive and less damage oriented items, making it the perfect choice for a jungle build.