Talk:Jayce/@comment-25053376-20140627195918/@comment-5160958-20140703012826

two things. First of all, everyone maxes w before e. maxing e is stupid as someone pointed out already. Second of all, you'll find that unless ur a tier of boots up on an opponent, you dont have time to auto three times if you want to get infront of them and e them back to your turret. that's why the kill combo is usually cannon form eq, run through the e, then hammer form q auto then immediately run in front and knock them back. when you can activate cannon again, THEN you activate your w and auto, and then go for another q if they're still alive. this takes basically half of your base mana, so you rly cant do this just for trades...its for killing. (btw, i actually max w before r, give it a try.)