Thread:Willbachbakal/@comment-4698489-20150830014737/@comment-1330314-20150830194718

Group collaborations have been made here before and have produced major positive results. I think this could apply for all major projects we want to work on. On the flipside, there's also a general atmosphere of apathy among many editors, but that's something we likely need to resolve on a personal, individual level.

As for item templates, I think Ninjamask has done an incredible job of modernizing item templates, and Emptylord is doing an equally amazing job of creating templates using Wikia's new infobox. My criticism, though, is that the data templates behind them should be structured in a way that they recognize stats as proper entities, instead of just text to be listed, which would then allow item-based stat lists to update themselves much in the same way as champion stat lists update themselves according to their own data. On the side, there's also a conflict surrounding cost analyses: while the consensus has so far been to keep them, several users don't want to have to deal with them at all, and while that led to the creation of the collapsible templates on item articles now, they still take up too much space. With more object-oriented item data sets, cost analyses could be merged directly with item infoboxes, and could be implemented in such a way that people could access them by pressing a button, but otherwise have them take zero space on their page.