Talk:Syndra/@comment-86.135.10.30-20121107152237/@comment-3419132-20121115152338

^ Syndra's Q is no Gragas Q.

It has a higher damage than Orianna's ball and has a low cooldown and with a higher scaling.

Orianna's W has a slightly higher base damage and both have the same AP Ratio.

Syndra's E has a far higher base damage and ratio

And no need to speak of the ult. Orianna's ult is pure utility and a lot of people have stated that the damage it deals should be increased when compared to champs like Gragas. Yes it deals damage, but hardly in comparison to most AP mid ults