Talk:Vayne/@comment-8969250-20130713200546/@comment-6334772-20130714233806

She's still incredibly squishy. If you pin her down long enough with some CC and burst, she's dead. No questions asked. I've had fed Vaynes in my games that still die in two seconds because of all the focus coming towards her. OP or not, she's still an adc. She's squishy, Vayne especially so, and vulnerable to CC. She's doesn't faceroll, she requires a lot of mechanical skill and good use of Tumble and Condemn. She's not the only adc capable of carrying on her own, there are plenty of others to choose from. By nature, adcs are people who carry the late game, some just better than others. And maybe all the lane phase carries have been nerfed but there are still supports that can harass and force her out.