Talk:Riven/@comment-130.234.5.137-20120913142559/@comment-90.13.250.190-20120914042512

malphite does "ok", but she dashes so his slow to poke isn't that great and she can shield it then come in melee, and she's manaless while malph is quite the mana-starved champ early if you harass.

pro tip : don't stack armor early vs riven :  taking armor and stacking it is different,  with  a chainvest and a phage  or 2 dorans you'll have an easier laning then 2 chain vest simply because  riven is going to have lifesteal and                     if you buy no damage... well gratz on lowering her damage  she bought but you didn't get more so she'll just cs easier and lifesteal back.

kennen, udyr and swain are great against riven

kennen : AA + shuriken and                 charged AA harass + dash back if she tries to dash on you.

udyr : tiger udyr outdamages her SO bad, just get tabi + double doran and it's easy mode, udyr can be kited but riven needs to be melee to fight, and udyr is stronger in melee, try to hit her with tiger stance early to be able to zone her hard while she's mid-life so if you get ganked she can't come in to damage or die from tiger + ignite.

swain: spell harass, if she dashes to you just snare and combo her while walking away, riven can't do anything against a half-decent swain

olaf is also good if riven plays like a retard and levels Q first instead of shield ( yeah against olaf you should level shield and NOT Q  making his true damage hurt him nearly as much as you.)