Talk:Jarvan IV/@comment-4677525-20120516081252

I main Jarvan (despite the Viktor icon) and he is the champ I am best with.

That being said, I've heard a few reasons why people don't like using Jarvan:

1) He has high mana costs.

2) While he is a good solo top and a good jungler he is not the best champ at either of these roles and, in fact, can be beaten badly against certain matchups.

3) His ulti is underpowered; a lot of champions have a built-in way of escaping it without flash. Also, it is hard to use because trapping your teammates could lead to disaster.

4) He is just not the same after all the nerfs (I myself used this one for a while, anybody who played pre-nerf Jarvan knows that the small nerfs do add up).

5) His damage falls off late-game and he can't carry the way Olaf, Wukong or Riven can. Thus, he is more team-reliant.

I myself have counter-arguments to all of these but I am interested in hearing responses to these as well as any other common reasons why people don't play Jarvan (although he seems to be making a comeback).