Talk:Orianna/@comment-13160526-20131018133317/@comment-5478645-20131019111710

"They nerf Zed because idiots whine about the banned\picked thing that has nothing to do the champ's power but how safe in lane they are and yet they do not nerf Orianna that has been the same state as Zed?"

From what i read on surrender@20, the Zed nerf is just a change on his ulti where the shadow spawn where you are when you cast Death mark, instead of being spawned behind the target. This doesnt touch his safeness in lane fase, its just a bit harder to kill opponent during all in, but in exchange it could mean he can perform some neat escape after his job is done. Orianna isnt an assasin, and she can kill his opponent only if she has poked his enemy enough.

"Only because you are playing an high skill cap champion it doesn't mean you are allowed to be better then any other ap champs in terms of damage, utility and lane safety."

In fact, orianna's damage in short skirmishes is inferior to most other mid laners. But this is to make up for her huge utiliy and the lane safety you said.

" Zed's burst is less immediate then talon's or any other assassin and easily nullified by QSS-GA-Zhonya where the last two items are mandatory on half of the team late game.

Zed's burst is less immediate then talon's or any other assassin and easily nullified by QSS-GA-Zhonya where the last two items are mandatory on half of the team late game.

Riot logic, from the other side now Zed has a gap closer that isn't used as such and a damage tool used as escape. Great, gotta love when no Zed will be able to burst anything down if his W is on cd. "

And this has nothing to do with orianna...