Talk:Jarvan IV/@comment-3486816-20110503065030/@comment-3486816-20110504011413

This is slightly different from AoE teams (targets need to be forced into a very close proximity of each other for tiamat twitch to really shine, but if you can manage it the damage is insane). And that's largely the point of Veigar on this team, though he could be replaced by galio (Amumu's actually not ideal on this team anyways since twitch would probably burst them down before he could do much damage, so galio might be able to replace him as tank) or another "herder" if you could find a more effective one. The point is to get them close to one another, THEN cataclysm as many as possible, trapping them for 3.5 seconds in a small area where they can neither escape nor damage twitch.

And people stand around in close proximity of each other more often than you think. You'd be surprised how often I've stunned entire teams with Sona's ult.