Talk:Rengar/@comment-130.49.3.225-20121207204410/@comment-208.174.57.186-20121207205854

Yep the stealth delay is just awful.If they brought that back then he would be in the balanced area.But now ? Well lets see.His q is a great aa modifier with godly aa steroids if ferocity is used.But then again he cant have the insane damage if he wants to have any form of sustain.His teamfight usefullnes :He doesnt have hard cc.He does have a root but he gimps the damage he does or gimps his survivabity if he uses it.As for laning he has no escapes if the enemy damages him which is no problem because most top laners have hard cc,gapcloser or ranged spell/attack that keeps him still for him to die.His gapcloser is situational and not very reliant.His jungle sucks due to him having slow clear times if he doesnt use double q or him having no sustain if he doesnt use ferocity w.He is gimped in one way if he chooses the other one.Lets take lee sin for example.Has w for sustain,much more effective escape mechanic and ally saver.Q for ranged execute that does percentage hp and he only needs LW to kill most targets.His e is an awesome waveclear,ms and as slow.His ult is a highly damaging knockback,knock up ,disengage/peel.He scales into late game by building tanky like most bruisers and still doing damage.And he isnt the only example.What pisses me off is that there are so many champions that do the same thing as rengar if he is biolt tanky with few damage items, but it is absolutely wrong and horribly OP if he does it.