Talk:Orianna/@comment-24327220-20151213035612/@comment-3059690-20151213212127

You won't be able to kill somone with QW every 3 seconds as W won't be up every 3 seconds.4.95 cdr on max rank with 45cdr mastery.

This is just my opinion so take with grain of salt but Orianna is not that great as a poke mage, the Q range is not good enough to reach the back lines the same way Xerath or Ziggs do and its also really slow, slower than Morg or Lux Q according to the wiki so you won't realibly dps squishy targets. Your best bet is poking the frontline so if that is your goal I geuss you can take it. imo deathfire is only on dedicated poke mages (Ziggs, Xerath and maybe Velkoz) or dots Brand and the like. Also TL is really good that most damage champions are taking these days even on adc, I did take a look at some challenger games and 3 players on each take taking TL. Not the best indicator tho...