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And that has obvious tradeoffs comparably: set up time, leaves her defenseless, and can be flashed out just the same of if you can see it coming.

Also, as a pet oriented champion, Orianna is not a good comparison. Nasus E, Varus E, he'll Ziggy minefield maybe even are better comparisons and you never worry about them "just hitting minions".