Talk:Jarvan IV/@comment-209.23.96.40-20130101200649/@comment-2248060-20130102031027

Machete is godly on all junglers with AoE damage (Flag and Q) and gimping your clear by starting cloth 5 is kinda... well gimping yourself unnecessarlly

seriously, yes its mandatory but its pretty much just the doran's of teh jungle. its a bit of homidginazion but at least it gives everyone even footing early and an actual base for learning the jungle, before you had to do a different start for almost all junglers (some could only go cloth 5 some started boots, a few started vamp scepter) and this just makes it easier to learn for new players, you're jungling? get a machete.

I know of 5 or 6 junglers that can opt not to start machete and keep a close clear time one being J4 the others are Olaf (cloth 5) Mundo (cloth 5) tiger Udyr (doran's blade) and Shyvana (cloth 5)