Talk:Swain/@comment-117.204.131.251-20110117145330/@comment-69.247.80.40-20110118031708

Vlad naturally a better choice than most Mages once he gets past level 9, so its not saying a whole lot imo.

What's sad is that even in his "beefy mage" role that people so often use to defend Swain, he's outclassed by Gragas and Chogath who offer better damage mitigation and damage. While Grag's CC isn't as consistent as Swain, his builds are substantially more varied; being able to fulfill tough mage, pure mage, tough dps roles easily. While Chogath isn't as good as Grag, he fulfill the tough mage role better with much better base HP, MR, Armor in addition to his health stacking ult; Cho also has stronger CC's, better AP ratios, and a better innate.

Swain isn't a qeue dodge champ, but there are other champs who do what he's supposed to do better.