Talk:Talon/@comment-25912163-20141223044350/@comment-24036535-20141223193832

Certain ADCs* If the enemy carry is someone like Quinn/Lucian/Vayne, they can simply gapcloser/vault out, and in the case of Quinn or Vayne, kill you in response. Corki just presses W and is completely home free. Yes, you can kill nonmobile carries with ease still, and mobile carries with less ease, but a flash will completely ruin Talon now, and anyone can do it.

On the topic of builds, I've always disagreed with Youmuu's as core on Tal, I still prefer the older Bruta->Hydra->BC, mainly because it gives you the ADC to kill someone, that armor pen isn't going to do anything if you don't have any raw damage, plus 20 flat pen isn't too great, useful, but the BC/LW pen is usually enough on its own. Youmuu's is situational in my build, I'll get it for frequent skirmishes or pushing, but overall the utility it gives isn't enough.