Talk:Talon/@comment-5969046-20130523174544/@comment-9533487-20130525013152

Well, I am personally not TOO terribly familiar with Zed, but as a very enthusiastic Talon fan, I have looked a lot at their differences and in what situations each could be strong. Due to Zed's living shadows he can be a very elusive target in jungle fights, whereas Talon is most elusive when in or near lanes, due to his blink and invisibility letting him cover a good amount of terrain/confuse pursuers as to his direction. Talon's burst can kill most people outright, the only way it doesnt is if his target has a good amount of hp and armor (silence means no zhonyas effect untils its probably too late), this means he doesn't really need to have much defense in those situations--the issue for him is when targets are able to itemize a good amount of hp and armor AND cc or burst him. Some tankier mages can potentially do this, and bruisers/fighters generally WANT to do this (vi, irelia, etc). Sometimes in the long games where the enemy has a lot of cc or percent hp damage, everyone has so many defenses and so much hp that you kind of need percent hp damage to take them down (BOTRK), which hurts a lot of what makes Talon unique (and makes him die more). This is where Zed is more relevant than Talon (sort of) because his ultimate makes BOTRK an attractive item for him, his passive does percent hp damage, and his ability gives him bonus AD (which means he can potentially give up a damage item for a defense item, and still have plenty of ad to use). Zed has issues ganking, chasing, Quicksilver Sash or Hourglass negating his ultimate, but most importantly (in my honest opinion) he has no silence :/ any nuke caster will burst him down before he can respond in kind, due to AP being easy to stack and Zhonyas being very effective against him. He HAS to buy defense. Talon has an easy time with ganks, has an easier time chasing, helps negate a lot of damage for his team due to his silence, and straight up applies BC stacks easier/his Q DOT keeps hem applied longer than Zed.

Very long reply, sorry if that makes it hard to read---it is a complicated situation.

One last thing though: Regarding ultimates--Zed's ultimate marks himself out due to everyone seeing those flashy shadows/hearing that crazy laugh during teamfights. Talon has little to show he just blinked somewhere, and his ult either kills the target or provides him with a nice escape while people are confused for a second why someone just died/went in the red. Talon's ulti has a lower cooldown at all ranks, is unaffected by Quicksilver Sash, deals AOE dmg, and the sound could be mistaken for other things XD hilarious when that happens. Hope this helps! Play the one you find more fun!