Talk:Veigar/@comment-25532677-20151120192050

so far I've found 12/18/0 to be the most effective set of masteries for him. Running StormRaider's surge seems to be the most cost efficient mastery for him. Thunderlord's decree loses it's effectiveness as the game goes on because you require less ability casts due to your damage ramp up. Deathfire touch for the same reason.

You do not sacrifice a lot of your damage for going 12/18/0 either. You do not need points in piercing thoughts because Veigar benefits more from flat Apen than %pen. This is because Void staff is core on veigar, meaning stacking %pen loses its efficiency with the less amount of magic resist they have, making flat pen an excellent stat for killing squishies.

As for the cunning tree. It offer a plethora os useful utility for veigar. The out of combat movement speed allows him to roam lanes better. Runic affinity helps him have a blue buff longer so his early game is stronger, or you can grab biscuits for more survivability early game. Meditation helps with your early game mana regen, though I don't reccomend it, you can also grab Merciless for more damage VS low hp targets. Dangerous game is self explanatory. Then you can grab Precision or Intelligence depending if you like more damage or more spellcasts