Talk:The Black Cleaver/@comment-188.230.249.170-20130124201427/@comment-5266525-20130125010314

Er... this is the Black Cleaver page. Not sure where this Garen vs. Darius talk came from.

And for the record, it's not valid to compare only one part of a champion's kit to another. Garen has considerably more natural damage in his kit as well as supreme tankiness and is decidedly harder to kite than Darius. He is also manaless and actualyl has some form of sustain in his passive. Darius' ult does so much because it's all that's actually keeping him viable in the first place.