Talk:Veigar/@comment-5225189-20130705085455/@comment-8185594-20130705204029

I think most of it has to do with the fact that people think that he MUST farm with Q at all times, and consequently be useless early, which is not true if you play him correctly. After that, there's the stun cooldown to consider (it's almost impossible to land W without it), so all you have whenever the stun is on cooldown is your short Q range to fend off harrass/all-ins; smart players will abuse that and make you very sad.