Talk:Karma/@comment-25223119-20150807173305/@comment-25223119-20150809164449

You're right, Karma's fanbase is pitiful. It's probably because we've got Karma players who never mained her until rework and come in to trash about how ridiculously weak Old Karma was because 95% of players put no effort in learning her kit.

That aside, no one is saying she's going to get a rework. There are multiple options available, but rework is a possible answer because morello and co has already admitted the rework was a miss.

A better way out of this is to prepare yourselves to leave so that we can let room in for players who can make knowledgeable discussion about Karma (even if not kit, then background and VO).

The fanbase is honestly pitiful, I agree with you. And it's all of our fault (including myself) because none of us were influential enough to speak up and we fight over how Old vs New is the better one.

Old Karma players get down voted everywhere, the NA thread, here and reddit. The truth is, no one wants to talk about Karma because no one likes her. The only ones who do are us, and we are pitiful enough. We got those who love her kit only, while some of us love her as a whole champion.

But I guess what others think don't matter, as long the Karma fanbase is happy, there is no reason to care about how rest of other fanbase sees of us.

The truth have always been there, morello acknowledge the miss in her rework. None of the newbies really caught on but just enjoyed two years of rework that favored one part of the fanbase.

During the years when people complained about her rework, neither of us were there to give our input.

So for what's best, if the only thing you care about is the kit and not the champion itself, you can leave and come back during the third rework.

I doubt the kit is getting reworked, but the design should. And the cry to rework Karma's design is louder than the kit itself.

You want the kit, then let us have the stories and designs.