Talk:Olaf/@comment-5877442-20130203231106/@comment-5877442-20130206171407

hahaha I don't really main ww cos he's not really viable after a certain skill level, he's just my favourite champ. :-P

Shyvana is used a lot in tournaments. Shaco isn't used a lot because he falls off hugely late game. Maokai IS everywhere. Rengar wasn't played a lot because of his earlier nerfs, but now he is quite good. Anyway, his ganks aren't the best-best in the first place.

You just explained why ww isn't used in tournies. He can't gank before 6.

Mundo is like Olaf. Both are risky junglers, who will die if counterjungled on their first clear and are very fragile early.

You're right, Olaf wasn't very good in the jungle in the frist place. But this nerf has made him even worse, to the point where he basically can't jungle at all. Only thing he has going for him are his amazing clear times (which, I guess, is why people used him in the first place).