Talk:VPBE/@comment-33536623-20151102004731

Alot of exitement for an ADC main, and alot of disappointments I love what they are doing with Graves, the new properties of the shotgun looks great and he is somewhat less of a Lucian altenative and now extremely unique, his emphasis of an all in Marksman with huge burst is now so much better and so much uniqueness, as long as they keep the sweet point for that reload speed

Moving on, Kogmaw, this is extremely exiting too and naturally balanced, I think. The changes to the W hugely emphasizes him as a glass cannon but also makes him not want to kite or move because it would cut out on a huge amount of damage. Either do lots of damage or pop like a baloon, love it too

Moving on to Miss Fortune, this is also a healthy change, Love tap's passive works really well (Dont know if it works with her ult) as she likes to use Double up alot and helps her DPS alot, but her ult changes are crazy and actually rewards her for building alot of AD, I still dont think she will be that viable but at least she will be viable in wombocombo comps

Now to the iffier changes, Caitlyn, I dislike the zone control Idea for an Marksman since unless your facing a hugely jump in comp, it wont be rewarding due to the arm time of the Kooky spooks and that most of the time enemies wont want to walk towards your zone of a teamfight

The worst changes by far is Quinn, I hate what they did to her ult entirely, its got a 2 second channel and consumes a huge amount of mana early on, and later its not going to be used to roam at all, but just as a free mobies, also rest in piece skystrike, it was a good execute as it was. You cant use it to escape, you arent going to use kill quickly and that two second channel is super deterrent for its use for a chase. I will detirmine if the damage reliability of Vunerable is worth the ult change but for now, it is not

Im not going to list the items (right now) but for a large amount of it, its very good. My favourite items currently are Cull (mini avarice plus kill at the end is value), new phantom dancer (holy dam, those passives are insane for kiting) and Firecannon (adding range to autoattacks for Jinx or Trist will be so fun).