Talk:VPBE/@comment-31222231-20180518054434/@comment-31222231-20180521060821

Ok fine, fair enough 5 seconds sounds good. But is it really that hard to be in combat for 5 seconds when you have the ability to build so tanky?. Like yasuo, he'll be able to stay in combat easily with all of his dashes and his q. I mean realistically I think champs like kled,olaf,jax will be able to stay in combat for ages anyway so I think they'll abuse the item. I don't think it will be too difficult to stay in combat for that long but you raise a good point and I guess we'll see.

I don't know how an extra 87.5 ad doesn't seem huge. I mean most bruisers at this point (renek for example) buy black cleaver, titanic, and let's throw in a deahts dance then full tank. cleaver gives 40 ad, titanic gives 40 ad. Tha'ts a total of only 80 ad and including the deaths dance it's 160 ad. So now with 3500 hp you get 87.5 ad (112 including the extra ad given from the item) then you add black cleaver(not even that high ad of an item) you get a total of 152 ad and 3/4 other tank items. I dunno it sounds pretty strong, having to buy only 2 offensive items instead of 3.

That's assuming the max hp I can get is only 3.5K with bc and atmas. Which it is not.

The "ridiculous tank stats" that I was referring to was the ability for all bruisers to build full tank after about 2 items. I wasn't talking about the stats of the item but that's mb I guess. The fact that all bruisers in the game have the opportunity to have that extra tank item with the same amount of ad as 3 ad items I think is too strong.