Talk:Udyr/@comment-31543294-20180721002225/@comment-3148314-20180724101147

I do. It synergises well with TIger as it also allows you to proc the fully applied bonus damage faster - and the heal on W, of course.

This being said, I personally think that Tiger is so overbuffed, that it made Phoenix redundant in most cases. Is there a scenario when you could max R, build AP, and deal a good amount of damage? I still see myself maxing Q alongside R to get the passive AS; however, it feels like I still deal the most damage with Q due to its high total AD scaling.

In the past there seemed to be two builds: AD Udyr = Tiger / AP Udyr = Phoenix.