Talk:Ryze/@comment-4641298-20120128140646/@comment-89.152.216.23-20120128154358

well it depends on the matchup

if you want to play agressive (wich you should most times) so you zone your opponent then mana runes is a must. My ryze rune page with a mana cristal gives me 668 mana level1 wich gives 93 damage on a 3.5 cooldown nuke that is hard to go oom. So this important if you face melee solo tops who are easy to zone such as singed/ww/garen/udyr or low range mid such as morgana sion kass.

Ms quints and boots first item are really good against champ you cant really play agressive like karthus cass and maybe brand. They not only great for a better dodge on skillshots but to reach your snare range without using flash -> ryze is one of the best friends a jungle can have

if you get hard counterd then use mr rune instead of mana so you survive (annie malz and maybe swain are imo the real ryze counters)