Talk:Graves/@comment-24.79.68.26-20120801165550/@comment-4881935-20120803193641

^ I don't see how your statement relates to what the person you are replying to. The second Anon was saying trading with someone who has a high burst, damage, and is naturally more tanky will usually end in the Graves favor. You in the other hand is talking about something completely else.

Another thing, there isn't a single ranged carry who can spam their spells early game without going OOM. The only two I can possible think that can do that is Ez, and Sivir (assuming u make perfect blocks with shield), but even then, they aren't constantly using it on minions. None of them uses it unless they have to clear a large wave quickly for some reason.