Talk:VPBE/@comment-25714442-20150807094828/@comment-24241876-20150807112344

1800 range on a huge initiate jump like that does seem questionable. However, from personal experience, I feel like I'm just not able to hit it because of the sheer mobility that other champs have over Zac.

To put it into perspective, 1800 range is the same as Kog Ult range at Rank 3. If you've ever tried to gank top/bot from the Tri-Bush closest to their side, you just barely make it into the lane. Coupled with the small buffs on his jump from before (increasing the knockup by .5s), I feel as though it might push him over-the-top.

As a side note, I'm not sure if it will be completely possible, but it's been one of my dreams to jump completely over Dragon/Baron and smite-steal it as I jump all the way across the pit.