Talk:Ardent Censer/@comment-8468980-20140607063934/@comment-5955640-20140608191025

What, that excuse doesn't make any sense. "This buff when combined with other buffs make it more powerful than that one guy with that one buff." Ignoring the fact that Warwick can buff the attack speed of his allies for 40% percent and that Nidalee's and many other buffs are double buffs. If you have a support champ on your team someone is going to have stacked buffs. That's pretty normal.

You buff yourself and then someone else buffs you. That's a double buff. The only thing you should worry about is utility stacking which is so far a thing I've only seen myself do and very few other people (maybe a pro does this but I don't watch the streams) where I'll get all the support activates and item passives and use them all at once in a fight or team fight.

Chasing someone? Talisman, Twin Shadows, and Rylai's Crystal Scepter.

Initating on an all AD team? Face of the mountain, Sunfire's Cape, and Thornmail.

Tanking a mostly magic team? Locket of the Iron Solari, Face of the Mountain, and Mikeal's Crucible.

And of course the debuff, buff aura only item lay out. Locket, Zeke's Herald, Abyssal Scepter, and Randuins.

Those combinations used on the right enemy team will crush them every time. And those are the items we have right now. After all it's not just those items it's also whatever sort of buff you can apply from your spells for either yourself or others.

This item if rushed in lane would be a pretty cool way to win a lane by out dueling the opponent and putting a lot less pressure on a passive support to deal damage as well. In a buff stacking situation I would just go Zeke's, Face, and this so in a duel my carry would have a bit more damage and the shield would buy them great time although some of this will depend on if the buff goes off on all types of shielding other people and just just the typical damage shield.