Talk:Karma/@comment-25223119-20160602044740

I'll be honest, Karma's one of the benefactors of 6.9, since the mana changes went through. With each subsequent changes she received, it has pushed her in to mid lane and less so at bot lane. BUT, her core problems are still unaddressed. Namely, her late game is still mediocre once everyone starts stacking HP/MR, you will feel like her presence as a mage is non-existent. Once people learn to stand behind their tanks, RQ becomes an easily mitigated ability.

She still feels utterly bland to play, a rotation of RQ, QQQQ, W, EEEEE, W, RQ, W, QQQQQ. RE despite buffs, is still quite situational now that most teamfights are pretty spaced out. What has not changed is Karma's early game, which means the more aggresive you are at pushing, the bigger your lead, also transitioning in to a stronger mid game and easier late game. But it will not change the fact that when everyone is at 6 items, Karma's presence falls off.

Back to the topic of her being a stronger mid now... Are the recent changes to her values a reflect of Karma's strength? Not really. As it goes, her win to pick rates are still pretty average. Karma is more frequently found in Mid in team comps that likes snowbally games, capitalizing on early-mid game and less prominent in bot lane. Why? Because AP supports took a hit in mana regen, but in Karma case, bigger mana pool means frequent Qs.

I'm still not here to support whatever blind truth all of us are thinking, i.e.: Karma OP now cause athenes. I've been grinding S tokens for Karma to no avail because as a mid lane mage, your gradings are automatically calculated largely based on kills, damage, and less death, which means snowballing. And Karma's damage isn't so impressive when you have a team of mobile casters flashing away. Nevertheless, its still fun to dominate people on early game, and pray when late game comes, you are prepared enough for it.