Talk:Ivern/@comment-30843848-20170207210326/@comment-4664737-20170225061222

^ I don't think people are gonna like the debuff suggestion of yours. By late game, they would be complaining about it. It's okay for me that they can steal it because I'm half away the map and they need to take the buff especially if it's on the opponent jungle. I'm just asking for some protection against people who see you lay down the grove, pay HP and MP for it then attack it while it's still charging up. And they do within earshot.