Talk:Ivern/@comment-3148314-20161104013512

Has anyone tried playing him effectively outside the jungle/without jungling?

He is with no doubt a very strong jungler, imo even a tad too strong, imo.

However,  whenever I try to play him as a non-jungle support (haven't tried top or mid yet), I find him to be extremely difficult to play - i.e. the complete opposite to his jungling - and that he is outclassed by pretty much any other champion of that role (mostly due to his high early cooldowns, I believe).