Talk:Graves/@comment-168.184.220.3-20120523133543/@comment-83.167.113.126-20120523192413

Tristana is better than your popular AD carry trolololololo!!!!!!!!!!1111111

OMG it's so lame to say Ashe is better than Graves, because they both have conic skillshot (it's kinda situational what's better - Volley has some utility and low CD when maxed; but Buckshot delivers much more damage) and 3 other skills that have nothing in common. Graves is some kind of burst AD carry with unique "CC" ability that has incredible possibilities if used right, and very strong passive uncommon to squishy carries. Ashe is "utility" AD carry with classic DPS kiting gameplay with permaslows, inbuilt CV's little brother (+ bonus money as icing on the cake ^_^), and absolutely amazing signature ultimate that turns battles in her teams favour. Imo Graves suited extremely well for solo games, when you have to carry those random guys that lack teamwork, and just need to burst two-third of enemy teams' HPs down with Q and R, then bring death to retreating survivors with a major help of E-induced AAs. But I choose Ashe more frequently when I play 5-man premades with voice communication, coz' she brings so much utility for a team so you can win a game even if you're not doing that great just by constantly slowing enemies - and with a right coordination - DAT ARROWS!!!!!!!!1111

Imo both are great, effective (in various situations) and extremely fun to play AD carries, they are both my favorites for the role, played hundreds of games with each of them and didn't get bored.