Talk:Udyr/@comment-27.253.52.171-20130122103031/@comment-5.83.71.124-20130124231221

@IdkiPickedaName: That's actually a better point, but I think that you'll agree with me that just because an item offers better damage than others it doesn't means that it is better for a certain champ than others. That's why, personally, I would not recommend those that I mentioned in my previous comment.

About our FM/IG: Well, I don't think that the consistant damage provided by FM is that much to overshadow IG, but that's a good point I'm not going to refute. However, that about "it doesn't makes you tankier than FM" is something that I do not agree with. I know that in this season getting Health is kinda better than getting armor/mres, but that doesn't means that you should get only Health (Remember what I said about getting HP from other sources? Well, I did for what I'm going to say now). In fact, this season has reinforced the concept of balancing Health with the defenses required to counter the enemy team. Of course getting FM will be better against heavy-oriented team comps, in order to keep getting a passive slow, however, against balanced or AD-heavy teams, getting the IG is better, given that it boosts your effective health against AD. And frankly, a character who gets around 3K HP, should also get around 200 armor/mres, in order to not getting countered by HP percentage based abilities and items, and in order to not receive true damage when your defenses get shred. Lastly, now that Udyr can achieve an extra 12% armor/mres with his passive, IG can yield an impressive total armor of 72, and stance-dancing should not be much of a problem after the laning phase ends. I don't really see Udyr getting FM/IG before of that, because you should preffer getting Boots of choice, Spirit of the ancient golem (Or whatever spirit you get) and Wit's end.

@84.251.20.14: I think I know where are you going, so excuse me if I'm misunderstanding you. But, if I'm correct, you should be speaking of Wit's end. There has been lots of "Wit's > Maw/Maw > Wits", however that reasoning is kinda stupid if you ask me. Tiger already scales great with Maw and Phoenix does so with Wit's, and even when you're not going to get both maxed, you're obviously going to use them both. Also, Wit's is more of an early item, while Maw, as already has been stated, is more of a late item, and on the other hand, Maw's shield scalates greatly with the +40 total mres that Wit's yield (Total of +76, not counting your character's mres, and supposing that your enemy casters don't get any magic pen/reduction, it's like if MoM's shield could go up to 704 effective HP). So... There's no reason why you can't get both against heavy magic or balanced damage