Talk:Teemo/@comment-8506165-20131122054512/@comment-8506165-20131123001158

"the lense states that it disables traps. so you just have to be near the shrooms to kill them, no autoattack requires.

a leesin or hecarim could easily deactivate the entire toplane within a single activation"

Surely if the shrooms are disabled then walking over them just does nothing? I'd have thought you'd still need to AA to actually get rid of the things.

I was hoping Riot would realise this problem before making their vision changes and bring the anti-trap items onto Rift for... well, the same reason they're on Treeline and Howling Abyss in the first place, no vision wards. Now there's no Oracle's, a limit on the number of visions, and Teemo can destroy any visions in high-traffic areas before shrooming them without needing a vision item of his own.

But at the moment I'm finding myself thinking the same as Odaswifteye: there's just not decent counterplay to CDR Teemo on Rift at the moment.