Talk:Smite/@comment-5359294-20130202000635/@comment-6532306-20130217190149

first. the secure buffs is your jungler work its because he already has smite, you dont need to smite twice to secure a buff it may even be wors. If you smite too early for your partner to  smite it after you and do twice the damage you are opening a window for the other jungler to smite it too. If you wait to secure it yourself there is no point in a second smite.

Dont generalize about the ignite flash spell combo, its not about them being the only viable spells or something like that. Its about having 1 spell that gives you utility and one spell that gives you nothing in a fight, vs 2 spells that gives utility damage or defense. You are assuming you can kill your oponents without spells while they have theirs, yes you can use a long range ability to kill someone low that is running. but you probably wont outdamage someone who exhausts you or ignite you or heals. you will lose the fight and you won't get that smite to the cannon minion while you are death.

You dont even need smite to lasthit a cannon minion, you can just autoattack it if you know how to time your attacks. or you can use an ability to kill it.

As shaw fujikawa pointed out, smite isnt very useful for lane pushes. Kill a minion every minute isnt that good. More important than that is that pushing waves is not something you should be doing 24/7. You will get ganked if you do and since you are far away from your tower is a ticket to hell. a fast jungler can get to you even if you warded. Noct, pant, shen, tf can get to you even faster. Any top with tp will get to you.

Gankings appart if you push your lane every time the opponent's lane wants to fight you have to fight back, since retreating to your tower is not an option that far in the lane. 4 summoners vs 3 you are in a disadvantage and most likely will die, losing cs, exp, giving their team gold, and posibly a tower.

tl dr; smite is only viable if you cant last hit a cannon minion but somehow you can win your lane and turn around 3 vs 2 ganks with only flash.