Talk:Graves/@comment-4710042-20140926144739/@comment-7095057-20141022173541

Honestly I kinda laugh when people say graves is bad late game, when he still remains one of the few carries I know that can hard carry his team. He can catch up REALLY easily in teamfights, he shoves well, he farms well, he absolutely murders squishies (Including our hypercarry friends, but that assums he hits his QR), and he's undeniably the best ADC to pick for an AoE Burst comp with champs like j4 and Ori. The only other ADC I know that can have his AoE presence in a team fighter is twitch or Ezreal, simply for their ults.

In regards to his E, it doesn't need any major adjustment. It's mana cost is decent and yes it takes a bit too long for him to reset it but that can be fixed with a minor AS per level buff, a boost to his AS steriod (Such as 40/50/60/70/80% instead like it used to be), or simply a CD reduction (22/19/16/13/10 would do just fine for him, as with that steriod you'd have roughly 1.8 or almost 2.0 AS. You'd reset quickdraw in 4 seconds with fighting). I'd be opposed to making it like Lucian because it's not needed. Graves isn't a mobile champ and wasn't designed as one.