Talk:Maokai/@comment-28465461-20160515162953/@comment-28465461-20160516133955

Yes, I am aware of him sustaining through fights.

He can be untargetable while using his W and dealing damage through tanks. He can win trades against other tanks depending on the player, I can agree with that. But to non-tanks he can't do much damage to ones with slight MR. However, I'd believe a swapped scaling (instead of AP because he have to build like 33 per 1% of it for bonus health damage) Because sometimes you need the RG instead of ROA (he is not very mobile) it would function as his current W. For example Voli's bite scales off of his maximum health and target's missing health. Maokai would have sort of the same scaling but also scaling off of the target's maximum health.

As for damage reduction, yes I do know that. But it is too low and the mana cost is too high make it worth using (for himself I mean). It's handy for teamfights which is better than alistar's ultimate. Then again maokai is not a support. As both of them both have damage reduction. Laning phase wise, I would see Maokai better with the ult alistar have (except the bonus AD). And not capped damage return. This will enable him to have it much easier for tower dives in team fights.

As for his E, I will try it out, I would love to see those saplings stay.