Talk:Udyr/@comment-4019444-20111018052304/@comment-3477331-20111018201752

I already successfully start out without blue buff (stolen) and ended up with a good score. Wasn't underleveled, had quite a few successful ganks and were able to counter-jungle that game (that mostly because yi stayed in the lanes quite a bit...)

Once you have wriggles and maybe philo stone you don't really need blue anymore imo.