Talk:Shen/@comment-24198515-20160921123951/@comment-24496127-20160923004445

I don't know what level you play at, but where I currently play, if my support leaves lane post-six, I'm at best going to need to really passively snipe farm with abilities, and at worse I'm going to get murdered.

Just a few games ago, I had an ally Thresh decide he hated me because I didn't follow up on a play that I personally saw no way of it working out in our favor, and so he chose to go top lane instead. The second he showed top, Braum was flashing on top of me and Lucian was going in.

If Shen is your support, and ults far away, you probably need to just go back to base, because people will take advantage and kill you. I've seen Shen support work, but the biggest advantage is having Shen on your team, he's not better at supporting than any conventional supports, and he scales so well with gold and levels that it's really the worst place to have him.

Then again, you explain all you wan t, but I just won't agree with it, so don't make me laugh....

Seriously though, this is a discussion. Let's ignore the fact that he never called the ability a waste in the first place, and just take a moment to realize that saying stuff like that isn't going to breed any sort of positive discussion.

You could've just agreed to disagree.