Talk:Kayle/@comment-2124153-20120118164243/@comment-2124153-20120118202055

^ Nope.jpg. Black Cleaver is completely amazing on Kayle.

The way shred works, is that %reduction comes first, flat reduction comes next, then flat penetration, then %penetration works on the leftover. Kayle's passive reduces target's armor, and then Cleaver reduces it even further.

Items like Last Whisper are horrible on Kayle. Her passive reduces the effect, since it works first, and %pen only gets the leftovers. Flat penetration is "OK", but can't push someone's Armor/MR below zero, so I am not a fan unless it's for attacking people likely to build tanky. Against squishies, sometimes it does nothing.