Talk:Jarvan IV/@comment-76.88.92.144-20120611012418/@comment-4929329-20120611225045

Vs 50 armor because of cloth, Q at lv1 makes it 45, and my inherent ArPen turns that into 24 and then 21.6 armor.

Without Q it is 29 then 26.1 armor. That is a whopping 4.6% more Hp for them, something that may be 1 autoattack less dmg if I had used Q prior to my autoattack.

Lv1 Q does not have the best ArPen, sadly, J4 is not Wu, who gets 30% reduction on his first point.