Talk:VPBE/@comment-35229418-20150803192800/@comment-35229418-20150803214927

@Tinhboe Oh yeah, wanted to include Ezreal too but I forgot about him. Having his Q able to crit would be very nice. Never thought about E's CD being reduced by half, looks cool.

In fact, I had in mind the Graves rework while writing this. E providing bonus armor penetration, R's explosion damage being narrower but having the same value of the base damage and passive scaling better into the late game. I remember them saying that Graves should be the ADC you pick when you wanna punish the bruisers gettin' in yo face, but atm he just bursts down squishies.

Agreed about Miss Fortune. I do think Varus is kinda fine, but Riot stated they wanna remove Grievous Wounds entirely, so yeah.

@Swampert919 I think both the Fighter and Marksman rework are a followup to the minor changes that were made to itemization back then (BotRK passive buff - active nerf, regens being on % which also affects Tiamat and Hydra, BT rework, crit value changes and Reaver's birth) and later (BotRK's passive applying lifesteal, Cleaver's rework (which was, in fact, very clever - forgive my puns of damage).

I believe they're doing the same that they did with some mages with DFG's removal. Half the work was done then, so no need to change other champions during the tweaks AP items received recently. Personally, I find the current ADC itemization to be kinda bland atm. Kalista's build is unique, and that's cool. The three Trinity Force users' builds are kinda diverse and that's fine. Then we have the two BotRK rushers who only differ for their secondary crit item (PD for Vayne, Youmuu for Twitch). Then there's Quinn, who rushes IE but her endgame build is the same of Twitch. But then for everyone else it's IE > boots > PD/Statikk (which differ only for numbers and passive effects) > BT > LW > defensive. Those are nine champions with the exact same build. (At least I believe Tristana doesn't build BotRK - but her build would be like Quinn's in that case.)

About the items, I'd expect a to make its appearance since that would give decent crit chance to the Trinity Force builders and it would make Bloodthister less of a must-buy. If they keep the active, it helps Marksmen without blinks/dashes. Who knows, maybe it having crit would also make a viable AS-less build with IE and Youmuu for.

I do see your point about the others, but ADCs should generally be tank-killers. The two latter ones here hardly are even close to it.

Also, I'm pretty sure it's a no brainer that ER should be from Brutalizer.