Talk:Vladimir/@comment-87.118.30.186-20110617143010/@comment-174.114.134.190-20110620153537

The only reason TF, Vlad, Jarvan and Vayne are always banned in high tier play is because of their potential in coordinated teams. TFs need to have good map awareness and a team that can protect him as he ults in. Vlad, in order to take full advantage of his ultimate, needs a team that is certain when to fight. Jarvan's ultimate + lots of AoE practically gives you free team fights, Vayne needs loads of protection if the enemy team is any good at all.