Talk:Shyvana/@comment-4290320-20130703093120/@comment-8506165-20130724091129

"For a good shyvana player this is a nerf, for the rest 90% of them this is a buff.

You Q deals less dmg, you E deals the same dmg until lategame, you have the same tankyness from lvl 6, a little bit more before that. I was landing my E-s anyay, so its a straight nerf there for me."

Rubbish. Did you write this just to boast that you were in the top 10% of Shyvana players and not think it through?

You lose some Q damage due to no more armor shred but your Q becomes far more effective against non-squishies due to double-proccing the percent health damage on E (which is magic damage and bypasses armor anyway). Against squishies your E now does roughly equivalent damage on the debuff anyway and the loss of the armor shred doesn't matter much against them, so you don't even lose that much Q damage on them!

Add it in to the fact that her already ludicrous jungle clear speed and solodrake potential is vastly improved with percent health on E rather than flat damage and with the recent XP shifts in the jungle counter-jungling's now incredibly productive again and only an idiot would think that "for good Shyv players this is a nerf" once they actually examine the results of her kit change. Unless you were talking about toplane Shyv. But as I pointed out earlier she's now better against the average toplane bruiser because of their higher health pools. So you'd still be wrong then.

Besides, even if you were amazing at landing your Es, if there's a horde of minions for the enemy to hide behind at the very least you'd have had to delay it before in human form. Now you don't have to.