Talk:Sion/@comment-24.158.117.182-20130101195407/@comment-77.166.82.214-20130101234326

I tried jungle sion because of the bad laning fase, and I wouldn't recommend it because of this:

Ur first clear is horrible, if you take your W, the monsters will break your shield and you won't do the AoE damage, if you take your E, you will lose IMO too much health.

You NEED a wriggles to have some reasonable junglespeed, and wriggles just isn't enough of the awesomesauce for Sion lategame IMO.

Your ganks lack mobility, if the enemy isn't overextending hard, that stun isn't really gonna get you too far.

You will get disappointingly little farm as jungle sion, unless you stay in ur jungle for a long time and manage to counterjungle, but you will give up ganks for this

You make very little use of the ridiculously awesome duelist potential of your ult during early and midgame.

I think you should jsut leave him in toplane, rush an early vampiric sceptre and max ur E, then ur Q, and try to sneak in some autoattacks on the enemy when he's trying to farm (hard to do against a ranged) and just stun and do a few AA's on ur lane opponent as much as possible, and trust me, his laning fase wont be so bad anymore