Talk:Orianna/@comment-3067750-20110604084029/@comment-190.1.210.53-20110605011329

but please, dont try these build on normals / rankeds, do it in Coop vs AI, these builds are sub par (winning doesnt prove it is a good build), for example, you can build tryndamre AP, and you might even win a couple of matches, but that probably means that if you had used another build for physical damage, you would have won easier, and there are other champions that benefit way more from atack speed + on hit items.

for the examples given, pure AP shen probably means you will be just pushing and acting like a mage, and lets be honest, there are better champions for this,while losing the ability to protect your team mates with anything else than your ulti; tank heimer, there is no reason to atack a character that doesnt taunt you, and doesnt deal damage, pointless build. irelia can actually benefit from ap a bit, but pure ap is pointless too.

anyway, if you have fun with a -playstyle- find a champion that suits it better, for example for attack speed + on hit build, you can try kog maw, you will do better than using orianna with the same build.

it is true that following what everybody else does is a bad idea, but if theres a champion that deals physical damage, and scales with AD, theres no point in building AP, you are free to build whatever you want, but dont use builds that dont optimize the strenghts of a character, oriana is a mage- support first, and an autoattacker later