Talk:Riven/@comment-24212263-20140106013257/@comment-9008617-20140107145354

"Riven isn't a bad fighter..."

lol? No kidding, she's like one of the best fighters/duelists in the game currently. Highly mobile, scales off AD, has no resource costs, has an AD-scaling shield, and has TWO hard CCs. By the time you finish her combo her W and E are just about off CD anyways especially if you've built any CDR (which you really should).

I mean, I think Jax and Fiora are both pretty good "duelists" but when you consider Riven's kit next to their's you can see how unbalanced Riven's kit really is.

- Jax has one hard AoE CC (10 sec CD), Fiora has none, Riven has 2 AoE CCs (knock up on 13 sec CD, stun on 7 sec CD)

- Jax has Counter Strike (10 sec CD) which blocks AA damage and 25% AoE spells for 2 seconds that scales off 50% bonus AD (does get stronger if people attack him though); Fiora has her Riposte (6 sec CD) that blocks one AA, reflects minor damage which scales off AP, and lasts for 1.5 seconds; Riven has a gap closing shield that scales off 100% bonus AD (6 sec CD).

- Jax has one gap closer (700), Fiora has one gap closer (600 + 600 = 1200) but requires an enemy target, Riven has 2 gap closers (260 + 260 + 260 + 325 = 1105) and can be used anywhere and in the past has been able to be used to jump walls even J4's ult.

- Jax and Fiora typically have to find ways to incorporate at least some AS whereas Riven builds no such thing

- Overall, Riven has better CDs (Jax's empower being the exception) and Jax really shines due to his mixed damage but Fiora has no one particular reason why she excels

So yeah... Riven is a very good fighter/duelist