Talk:Veigar/@comment-4140664-20120101084922/@comment-4140664-20120102200514

Well you should always Max Q and I also start out with like 15% CDR. Rushing Death Fire Grasp will help you achieve that goal too, you get 15% CDR and some mana regen for easier Q farmin.

It's just a matter of practice. Learning to last him with him helps you in the long run for other champs.