Talk:Garen/@comment-5274931-20120812135540/@comment-5274931-20120813021439

I am just saying that a nerfed ability(Flame spitter) was never at the damage that Judgement can do. Flame spitters max damage was 585+ 1.75 ap vs Garens 630+ 4.2 Bonus AD. now its going up to a 729 damage base with out any AD runes,masteries or items.