Talk:Jax/@comment-5211662-20150529092340/@comment-25970203-20150603063012

I havent played shyvana, but i have played jax and I have to say ignoring his late game as sub-par makes me wonder what you are itemizing. Late game jax gains approximately equal tankiness and only doesn't do more damage due to lack of h;p %HP damage. Duelists dont "fall off" at all. Saying a champion falls off insinuates they do not gain more effectiveness with items further from that point. To give a better idea think of corki. He maxes after mid game. HIs late game is decent, but ive never seen a 6 item corki "wreck" an entire team single handedly unless very fed and going something like XX/0/XX where any equivalent champion is also strong. Every item you put on Jax makes him stronger without question. Please note, if you get wrecked in the early game with a mid game champion, you're chances of coming back are slim. This is because these champions, from what I can tell once wrecked will not get a power spike worth noting. Late game champions arent like that. If you slow there progression that's all you do. You slow their progression. they will inevitably reach that point where they can singlehandedly win a game and in this regard all aa reliant duelists are like this. They all increase in damage as the game goes on and can wreck you given the chance. Don't tell me no one has ever been backed doored by a yi, Jax, tryndamere etc. while they were on the verge of victory. This is their late game strength shining. In teamfights they are weaker, but so are most assassins late game and teamfighting isnt always the best strategy to winning late game. In season 3 I remember watching SKT not teamfight with their Jax in the mid-late game because he was too much of a threat for the enemy team to ignore even without teamfighting. this is their greatest strength. Forcing the enemy team into unfavorable situations even if they do well in teamfights. If they were exclusively focused on mid game then this wouldnt really be possible. Jax will inevitably comeback and be able to dominate a game.

Tl;DR

Jax is a late game champion and you're analysis of his power spike at midgame isnt wrong just misleading in that classifying him as a mid game champion would lead people to believe he is more beatable in late game when he is not.

PS you forgot yasuo. Yasuo's teamfight can be pretty good all things considered when in the proper comp, but a lot of champions are like that so ehh.