Talk:Veigar/@comment-24971427-20170927142332/@comment-25532677-20171019022502

To put things into perspective, Veigar keeps getting buffed consequentially due to a nerf to his E in patch 5.4 where they made it no longer instant, and it wasn't even that big of a nerf. Due to this however, he was regarded as "worse than a caster minion" in regards to his potential by a lot of players.

This is the point I was trying to make, his E is such a crucial part of his kit where even the slightest part of change to it can offset a very delicate balance he is in. Do I think his E is overpowered and should be changed? Absolutely. Do I think he would be a competitive pick if it were changed in a way where it weakens it without changing the rest of his kit? Absolutely not.