Talk:Irelia/@comment-3524016-20110708085825/@comment-3524016-20110708173047

^ Same. The Q change isn't much of a problem early on, I tend to leave it at level 3 most of the time depending on the game. I max out E first always, it has better scaling in terms of damage and CC.

What hurts me most is the nerf on her Ult. It's damage isn't that impressive anymore, yet it happened plus it's already physical damage which makes countering her much easier.