Talk:Fizz/@comment-26251295-20150618235326/@comment-10943377-20150710211446

I only made comparisons to Leblanc's cooldowns because I felt like she was the closest fair comparison for the cooldown. Both spells for the champions are designed around being mobility tools for the assassins to be able to function, both have a final resulting similiar cooldown, both are used as their respective form of wave clear.

Other champions with a mobility based skill reliance have cooldowns that hover around the 8 second mark for final ranks as well. Such as Fiora, Tryn, Ekko (8,9,9).

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@SteadyAim

Yes Fizz has more mobility options with his E and has higher damage (personally I think E is overloaded)  but the overall travel time is slower and easier to predict and using zig-zags will reduce the max travel distance.

Also he is pigeoned into only using E offensively or defensively he can't do both like Lb can who can go in for a trade and then back out. Even with all the advantages on Fizz's E in terms of stats I still think that the ability for LB to quickly (faster skill) trade while maintaining options is equally as valuable as the stronger stats on Fizz's E.

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@Alfredo094

The argument isn't really fair ,my point was about the cooldown of the spell in comparison to other assassins not why the strengths need to tune the comparisons.

Both Fizz and Leblanc would have the same weaknesses with range, in that they would need to sacrifce the potential damage of their main mobility spell to get in range to inflict damage. Technically you could juke Fizz's Q (dem nerfs) but that's being perdantic. I think Fizz and Leblanc could deal similiar damage if they wasted their main mobility spells, but both outcomes are too heavily situational (items and following seconds after eg procing spells).

Besides you could argue Fizz's damage being harder to avoid and juke is because of the cost he has taken; wasted his only escape (alongside other costs of his E) to get into danger range to try and output meaningful damage while LB is less assured but has the options to flee.