Talk:Katarina/@comment-5771269-20121121104015/@comment-4929329-20121128220236

Wait, you call me out on THAT but not the fact that I was wrong? Rumble's MS boost lasts the same, but gives 14% less MS at max rank with 2 sec longer on the CD. Also, since when did Sinister Steel give you a shield?

Last time I checked, Katarina's spells deal the damage that spells like Ahri's Charm does, and her ranges are pretty good but aren't all that high. If she faces someone prepared to fight her, she shouldn't rock the laning phase, but she isn't easy prey like she used to be. The basic flaw with saying "you cannot stop her" is that it's easier to stop her than TF because she has a spell that puts her literally right next to you, and she has no CC to stop you from Exhausting her or otherwise using CC, and once she Shunpo's in, she can't escape her own fate.

You can't really stop TF or Ahri either, in the sense that it can be hard to run from them, they gank quite well, and their laning is pretty good. About the "basic spell Quadra" - You can look up videos of Sona getting a Pentakill because she last hit every enemy. Nobody cares if you can last hit 4 big minions. In fact, the first Penta I ever got was because the entire enemy team suicided on me, and every kill was a KS, meaning I did absolutely nothing.

@Senario - "AoE mage assassin is just murder", well, Twisted Fate couldn't have said it better himself!