Talk:VPBE/@comment-24474109-20150806083715/@comment-3974211-20150806092308

All maps will have spires - they are just currently inactive on other modes.

Odyn's Veil doesn't grant Valor's Reward; as well as both Banshee's Veil and Ohmwrecker didn't when it built from Catalyst. In fact, Rod of Ages originally didn't but it was added due to Rod of Ages encouraging you to rush it. But that's the distinction - items that retain Valor's Reward are intended to be rushed.