Talk:Riven/@comment-5209745-20131204175508/@comment-6334772-20131208013225

If it works, doesn't mean it is viable? And if it works almost every time to great effect, doesn't it mean it's OP? I'd like to use the example of, well, Riven herself. You can counter her, she doesn't work well with everything and being melee in of itself while being squishy is a big weakness, but she's considered both OP and viable. If Riven can be countered and shut down, but is still such a good "OP" pick, why can't the Red Pot invade jungle start be the same?