Talk:Swain/@comment-26128186-20160730084724

Is Swain still considered op, and if not, very, very strong? Cuz in my first time playing him since I bought him (after re-work and recent nerfs), I've done really well, but he didn't really seem op to me. His ult didn't seem as satisfying or impactful to use as when I played swain before rework (when he was ftp).

Also, I felt that I HAD to use w and e to get off a good q, cuz they need to stay still (w root) and they had to actually be targeted by the crow (e targeting). So, if I didn't get off an ability (mostly w, cuz I can't for the life of me aim properly), the damage from q was minor at best.

However, on the other hand, I felt like I did too much dmg if I did land a complete combo with my basic abilities. Seriously, that e amplifying damage plus all the scalings for his abilities are monstrous. Also, my e still does a crap ton of damage on its own, and is also a point and click. Not to mention his wave clear and mana sustain are phenomenal.

To me, he reminds me of vel'koz and brand in the sense that you kinda need to chain your abilities together for maximum effectiveness. However, Swain has pretty long cd at first, so if you miss a poke at an enemy, it takes a while for you to get another chance.