Talk:Lucian/@comment-8506165-20130902134141

Keep hearing complaints that Lucian's ult is weak from people that rush BotRK then build empty attack speed (TriForce, Shiv, PD, Runaan's...)

Here's a hint - it scales off AD too. I've seen a Lucian who actually rushed a BT chunk a fairly tanky Darius with it. BotRK gives you two extra shots and adds 6.25 damage to each shot. BT adds 25 damage to each shot when fully stacked. You do the maths. ;) Infinity Edge would work too for more DPS but less burst.

Oh, and you'll do more damage on your, um... everything else, too. Passive scales 50% AD. Q scales 120% bonus AD. Hell, even his W scales 60% bonus AD. And your autos will hit harder with an IE crit than they will with a BotRK proc.

So yeaah... I get the concept, his ult's meant to be good and scale off AS so build around it, but it just scales -better- off AD. Lucian's damage is ungodly with a BT, IE and LW. Chuck in one decent AS item for better DPS and -slightly- improving your ult, and you still have room for one defensive item or extra offensive item if you're facerolling (n.b. not necessarily in this order). Congrats, you now actually do damage as Lucian.