Talk:Ornn/@comment-25406356-20170826174522/@comment-25406356-20170826191428

More like riot didn't know how the hell to give him ratios. Liandry's only goes well with the w, the ult gets 16 damage from it which is complete trash. His Q scales 100% ad, W doesn't have a scaling, E scales with resistance and ult scales ap. It's like riot wanted to make him hybrid but forgot how to make decent hybrid champs (aka having moves that scale both ad and ap along with other moves that scale one of each, allowing for different play styles that benefit from ad or ap or both) The masteries are getting removed witht he weird rune/mastery overhaul they're planning and the 2 hybrid items (rageblade and gunblade) are very niche items only picked up on select champs.

The random scalings on older champs was from things like triforce was a hybrid item and they wanted more hybrid champs. Nowadays you rarely see new champs with hybrid abilities and for good reason since there aren't many hybrid items and very few ad/ap items benefit heavily from each other. (liandry's being the only exception there as its damage is just on the item and doesn't scale with more ap like luden's)

And Braum is a pretty bad example. He is a hyper tank support that has a max health scaling, a resistance scaling and a 60% ap scaling. He's not hybrid at all just a tanky ap bruiser support. Ornn is a solo lane champ that should have been self sufficient but doesn't his setup doesn't benefit from one item in it's entirety as any ad item will only benefit the q, any tank item will only benefit the e and any ap item will only benefit the ult and barely at that. An example of a hybrid champ that doesn't build hyrbid is panth, two moves ad two move ap and the scalings aren't bad on either side though you get more sustained damage out of ad and ap is more of a joke one shot build. Unlike ornn, half of panth's moves benefit from building ap items and the other benefit from ad. And Braum is fully set to be an ap tank support. Ornn doesn't fit a build type and thus becomes lack luster from it as he can't benefit from a normal set of items like other champs do.