Talk:Kayle/@comment-3457312-20110809211009/@comment-3457312-20110810200600

I don't see Q's ability doing any sort of magic reduction or penetration. Just overall damage increase. Unless you are talking about her passive, in which case, I do take into account that its reduction not penetration. Take a look at my calculation in the above original post: "0.15 + (0.85 * 0.55)" The first number, 0.15, is from her passive after five auto-attacks. Now, since reduction is taken into affect prior to penetration, we have to use the value of .85. Which I did, to further calculate the the penetration values of Archaic (15) and Void Staff (40), of 55%; thus, .85*.55 =~ 61.75%.

However, this isn't a true value to stick to, just a general indicator. Why? Because the true calculation of magic red/pen is done in this order: % reduction, flat reduction, flat penetration, % penetration. So if you have an flat reduction or penetration, it'll change the final value of your targets resistance -- but the equation's percentage values, more or less, remains the same.

And with Malady you'd be looking at something like 15% reduced, then 24 flat penetrated, and then 55% of the remaining penetrated. Granted you have Void and Archaic and no penetration runes. All this magic reduction/penetration is so you're a scary on-hit magic damage Kayle (Malady 20, MBR 4%, Righteous Fury 60; a 2K HP target = 160 Magic Damage per hit, pretty good sustained magic dps). And you're right, getting a Black Cleaver would also increase her DPS even further and annoy enemies who are stacking heavily on MR.