Talk:Shyvana/@comment-2248060-20140422021352/@comment-2248060-20140422172506

yeah precicesly. If a lane loses its because the jungler didn't gank, if a lane wins its (at least from the enemy teams perspective) because the jungler camped.

before flare junglers we just gank threats and their soul purpose out side of smiting dragon and baron (and giving blue to the mid laner) was to get lanes fed. Now with flare if the jungler ganks and doesnt get a kill then its wasted time (even if they get a summoner blown since they dont gank often enough for it to matter). Stronger lanes need to be played, you cant pick a lane that needs ganks to go even because then your jungler is screwed over. Little ancdotal example: I just got out of a game where my top laner gave up first blood to the enemy and said "GG no ganks" at 5 minutes, when I was sitting level 5 as shyvana, he proceeded to die 9 more times before we could surender because he though he always had a jungler as back up.