Talk:Jax/@comment-4499945-20121012003959/@comment-5441738-20121012213050

PLEASE stop talking, anon. Any champion can be countered. If a champion cannot be countered, then that champion is overpowered. See also: pre-nerf Zyra.

Yes, a fed champion is a serious challenge to deal with. It just makes counter-building LESS effective, not ineffective. I could absolutely build to stop Jax dead in his tracks: Ninja Tabi, Aegis of the Legion, Warden's Mail. If Jax is still by some unholy miracle able to threaten me at all at that point, I'll throw in a Thornmail to shut him down the rest of the way. Still coming, dumbass? Fine. Force of Nature. Still attacking me? Sunfire cape. Still alive? Liar.

Come to think of it, that combination of items makes you pretty generally unkillable. Let's put that build on someone with a lot of CC like Leona so that you still absolutely HAVE to attack that character. Yorick should be able to do this pretty well, but I'm not as familiar with him because he almost never pops up in a game.

Challenge #1 that hybrid characters face: Combination of armor and MRes. If you only stack one, they'll emphasize the other kind of damage, but if you get both (Aegis of the Legion), that drops their damage considerably. As such, good hybrids often work their runes and masteries to have as much penetration as possible. I mean, heck, it's kinda expensive to get both Void Staff and Last Whisper. Use this to your advantage by hitting them early and hard and by grabbing a Chain Vest and a Negatron Cloak before anything else. If they're still damaging you after that, you're feeding intentionally.

Challenge #2 that hybrid characters face: Burst survival. Hextech Gunblade is great for surviving longer engagements, but if they can deal two to three thousand damage in less than three seconds, you're toast. I don't think that Yorick can pull that one off, so I didn't bother talking about it. Still, it's useful to know - hybrid characters not built very, very well are as good as a glass cannon under any kind of CC.

Challenge #3 that hybrid characters face: Expensive building blocks. I'm not talking about "QQ no hybrid Doran's! :(((" No, I'm talking about through level ten at least.  Hybrid items are few and far between, and it is truly impossible to rush any of the good ones aside perhaps from Hextech Gunblade.  Even the Gunblade takes quite some time to assemble and can be counter-built in the early game.  Usually, the Hextech Revolver will be built first; that's AP, so build MRes first.  If nothing else, build an Executioner's Calling or a Morello's Evil Tome.  Those even shut Sion's lifesteal down.  Ignite helps, too.