Talk:Katarina/@comment-24621775-20150526012829/@comment-26359415-20150526200910

She is not "OP" at all, and he has very reasonable counterplay. If she doesn't get a reset, then she's by far the worst teamfighter. She's only good at one thing: Dealing shittons of damage in a teamfight when your burst is high enough to get a reset. It's just people not knowing how to play against her. Seriously man, I don't get to play Kat much because she's permabanned but if I get to pick her, people play sooo wrong against her. I even win lanes sometimes just because they're apparently not aware of my cooldowns and the fact that Q-E-W-autos is pretty good in trades if the enemy is mispositioned (lol they overextend and try to harass me in the wrong times). I used to mainly play her when I was at Silver 3-Gold 4 elo BTW (before she was permabanned). Her laning is insanely bad, specially after the last HP/HP5 nerfs (they hit REALLY hard).

The "Just CC her" stupid circlejerk is actually true. Her Q-E-W combo does low damage (125% AP scalling with mediocre base damage) and most of her damage comes from her ult (250% AP scaling with high really high base damage). In a perfect game with perfect players, enemies won't let her snowball (wards in river + scuttlecrab, smart decisionmaking if getting dived, counterganks) and will just not engage when being at low HP.

Even if she gets to get resets, it's maybe only a little more damage than what other wombo-combo champs can do, and she's a higher-risk/higher-reward champ. Imagine a well-put Orianna-Annie-Veigar-Amumu-Graves combo for example. It would definitely instagib everyone but tanks. (lol Orianna top maybe?).

It's really frustating for me how Kat is always deemed to be a "lel no skill op champino literally no counterplay bursts me down with her combo!! champ. She's definitely good in SoloQ and is one of the best snowballers in the game (if not the best. Only Riven and Draven come to mind) but that doesn't make her OP.