Talk:Gragas/@comment-15562896-20120815144159/@comment-5068327-20120815145157

With its AS reduction, it is actually a pain for those mage to be able to last hit. Trust me, having a 0.5 AS, not fun.

As for W+E, you sure know it can be blocked by minions right? And having to use melee range to trade will be a bit risky. Junglers who love ganking at level 3, Gankers, Mages with hard CCs.......