Talk:Zyra/@comment-220.255.2.33-20120812062726/@comment-5266525-20120814134015

If all you meant was 'stronger than average' instead of straight up overpowered, then it's redundant reasoning. Nerfs should be self-explanatory for why they happen (even though they often aren't).

Also, I have already rejected that reasoning. Some champions have been nerfed because of all the complaining that happened around them, or because their kit is detrimental to the spirit of the game. Old Eve was nerfed into the ground harder than a plane crash, because she encouraged hardcore tower-hugging the whole early game but got hard-countered by a 400g item. Tryndamere was nerfed because people simply could not understand his shortcomings and is even now arguably one of the worst characters in the game. Urgot was nerfed in a recent patch... and then had part of the nerfs reverted after they admitted to taking it too far.