Talk:Udyr/@comment-9686801-20140117151002/@comment-5489694-20140118045015

He's a lot weaker later on than he is early on but he doesn't become completely useless. The main reason he seems/gets weaker later on is because he lacks an impactful teamfight ability, and teamfights have a larger impact the longer the game goes.

Late game Tiger's damage is great as long as Armor Pen is built. As for Phoenix's damage there isn't much that can be done besides building a Wit's End, Sheen item or Rageblade but the impact those items have on your damage isn't as noticable as Armor Pen on Tiger.

Tank-wise it basically just depends on your build. Turtle stance is spammable and is basically 200 bonus health every 4 seconds with enough CDR plus any resistance you build increase the strength of the shield providing you with more and more "hp".