Talk:Talon/@comment-76.172.6.199-20130117131129

[.-~!OFFICIAL TRUTH!~-.] by a Talon extremist...

Actual level 18, 1-second, single-target, assination combo (@400AD(typical))...

E(Cutthroat) > AutoAttack > Q(Noxian Diplomacy)/AutoAttack > W(Rake) > R(Shadow Assault) (+R close)

Pre "Balance" combo damage:  [E]15% ( [AA]400 + [Q]240+(441)+400AA + [W]260+(352.8) + [R]520+(529.2) = 3614 TOTAL DAMAGE

Post "Balance" combo damage:  [E]15% ( [AA]400 + [Q]200+(382.2)+400AA + [W]260+(352.8) + [R]440+(441) = 3307 TOTAL DAMAGE

That's 307 damage taken away from what Talon safely does in 1 second. Could you imagine a more agressive combo? One where Talon actually gets the chance to USE his passive?? E>AA>Q/AA>W>AA>>R>AA(+R close)>Q/AA? Start tossing in Summoner's Wrath with Exhaust or Ignite and the Totals just keep spreading further and further away from eachother. Only tanks building high amounts of armor will notice closely no difference, and even then, Talon is still doing less damage to Tanks due to the change.

As for the "Fixed a bug where the damage amplification did not actually apply". When I found out about this upcoming patch a few weeks ago, I personally tested for this bug in custom games... With WELL over 50+ Cutthroats on multiple maps and gamemodes, I could not get this bug to happen even once. Hence "Pre Balance combo" and "Post Balance combo" both having 15% increase. Riot has not released any detailed data on who this bug has affected, how often this occured, or how long this has been going on for. I cannot speak on others behalf but personally, I don't think I have ever done over 500 less damage and just didn't notice.

CONCLUSION

Talon is getting the damage from two of his strongest AD ratio abilities handsomely reduced for the trade of a bug fix who's details remain unknown. If you want to chalk all this up as a "balance" to League of Legends, that's at least a fair assumption that's up for debate. However, If you are under the impression that this "balance" isn't nerfing Talon, I urge you to take the time to read this. ~HAWAiW1N