Talk:VPBE/@comment-3110123-20150810194717/@comment-24385282-20150811033030

I wouldn't say that's trolling - in this scenario, Garen has 2 options.

One, try to help his teammate. This results in either his teammate surviving and the enemy backing off (presumably he couldn't get the kill without them being the Villain, otherwise there was no reason to wait, and if there's no viable reason to wait due to the new passive, the passive is not what's causing the trolling) or the ally dying anyway and Garen getting the kill anyway.

Two, don't help his teammate. This results in either the teammate getting away on their own and possibly even getting the enemy to chase them into Garen, at which point the enemy will get turned upon by an advantage of numbers and killed (unless the Garen does not respond, in which case the ally will likely get away anyway and the enemy will simply back off, or if the ally dies anyway, Garen will then either use the Villain passive to get the kill or do nothing, meaning that, again, if there is trolling occuring, it is not the fault of his ultimate's new passive), or his ally will die and Garen will, as the scenario stated, get the kill.

In both scenarios, any "trolling" caused directly by and solely because of his new ultimate passive will result in a trade of kills that is worth (0 for 0, 1 for 1, or, best case scenario though his passive doesn't matter, 0 for 1). In the only scenario in which a trade would occur that is not worth (0 for 1) this is because Garen completely and utterly refused to respond, and it's not the fault of his ultimate.