Talk:Gragas/@comment-24944427-20140515110112/@comment-24630289-20140522014225

@Master 10K: What I meant with real support was champions classified as support for their first and secondary roles. I'm not like the others that thinks all supports should have heals. I think what really makes a good support is a champion that could effectively protect their carries because let's face it, if your carry is dead, support won't do crap on other champs.

Nami is a very versatile support. She both has a good sustain, a stun like skill, a movement speed boost and a long, large CC engage. She's just a very good support. Thresh on the other hand is just wow when it comes to support plays. He can engage, disengage, help your carry escape, and lock in enemies in his wrestling ring. What's insane about him is that he's super tanky come late game compared to other supports (except for Malphite and the likes).

Yeah, Gragas would get in the way of enemy teams from getting to your carry. Guess what, when people go in for the kill, they target the ADC, especially if there's a tanky gragas. You just don't go for the tanks especially in team fights. And your damage wouldn't be that much because supports don't really CS in lane. So his build would be built a bit longer compared to mid, top and jungle Gragas.

I just noticed in the video, they're most of the time attacking Gragas. Why would they attack a tanky Gragas? Also his skills don't do much damage, only thing good for his Q and R was a slow and displacement. Plus what I see is they're panicing when they get hit by Gragas' ulti.