Talk:Graves/@comment-1120494-20140917133437/@comment-7095057-20141014035250

Newstandard is right but another good reason is that graves is all about early bully lanes. You pick graves over lucian because you run with a Leona and plan on early level 1 or 2 trades where you can 1 or 2 shot the enemy carry with your EQ auto combo. You pick graves because you can play mind games with when you're going to just q the wave to shove it, when you feel like EQing and forcing a trade because you're graves and you can survive a trade against lucian with your support, or simply when you feel like it. You play graves because you have a better mid game, and provide heavy burst that can ace the enemy team easily because you have an orianna, leona or j4 that just knocked the enemy team up on an engage.

Meanwhile you pick Lucian because you're focused on catching people out with your team and bursting them in a duel, split pushing and dashing away with Yomumus when they come for you, you have a focused one on one team comp that targets one champ at a time (Champs like Vi, Thresh, Warwick, blitz, Ryze are on your team), or your enemy team comp is a tankier team, and you know your botrk auto attack lucian is gonna melt those tanks better than the burst focused graves.