Talk:Olaf/@comment-88.186.19.90-20120510234615/@comment-3486816-20120513021309

The issue with that is that Olaf has very little reason to ult against Trundle in the first place. If he's a scrub player in general and continues fighting Trundle while Trundle's ult is on him, Trundle will win. I've beaten a jungle Olaf with jungle Trundle that way while I was exhausted and he wasn't. But anyone smart enough to kite Trundle's ultimate will usually have no trouble coming back and beating him if it doesn't come down to a battle of ultimates, and if Trundle ults Olaf right after Olaf himself ults, Trundle has very little means of keeping Olaf from kiting his ult. The pillar really isn't that helpful without the slow attached to it. On that note, Trundle is actually better off pillaring between him and Olaf when Olaf ults to try and kite the duration of Olaf's ultimate, and saving his ultimate for a time when he can actually trap Olaf unless he absolutely needs it to survive.

Believe me, I like Trundle and wish he was as good as he was before the jungle change, but even I recognize that most of my 1v1 kills were due to people either not knowing how Trundle's ult worked, or not realizing they had it on them. Bar a perfect pillar or a frozen mallet, you can just kite his ult nine times out of ten and come back to kill him.