Talk:Crowd control/@comment-4937115-20121021041759/@comment-80.236.86.7-20130318233449

1) Skarner s ultimate IS a suppression. suppression doesn t mean channel. it s a cc which prevents moves, attacks, casts of summoner s spells and abilities and items abilities (except for QSS & scimitar). malzahar's ulti being a suppression isn t due to the formula

channel + stun - cleanse = suppression


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2) knock backs/ups are different from suppression due to the possibility of canceling the effect : QSS/scimitar and cc-removing-spells work for suppression but don t work for knock backs/ups. you can also use certain summoner s spells/items during knock backs/ups while, as i wrote above, it s not possible during a suppresion (except for QSS/scimitar)

3) it s not new compared to what I wrote in 2) but i d like to highlight something : if Olaf is knocked up/back, and he can t use his ulti DURING that time, he ll be knocked for the full duration ( and after that he can use his ulti and become immune to ANY cc including knock backs/ups ). however, if he ultis during a suppression, he s freed. same for gangplank s scurvy (heal) and QSS/scimitar.

NOTE 1 : malza still do the dmg to olaf even if olaf is freed (unless olaf walks out of range & break the tether or some one stun malza). same for some one using QSS/scimitar : he gets freed & can move/attack/cast but still get the dmg.

NOTE 2 : urgots ulti is special in a certain way : as shown in the video 'this is why we hate urgot', if the suppresion is stopped by QSS/scimitar/gangplank's heal, the target will still swap is position with urgot.

NOTE 3 : CAREFULL : cleanse and mikael's active effect (if cast by an ally. NOT BY YOURSELF) can remove stuns and you can use certain summoner s spells during a stun. NOT during a suppression.