Talk:Black Cleaver/@comment-5028389-20120817193636/@comment-1902684-20120821211344

Probably not the best idea on Garen unless you plan on making sure you pull off a Auto attack Q combo on your intended target before you spin cause if you don't, then you're wasting both of the stats on this other than the decent sized AD ratio. If you need damage, either grab BT or IE(in garens case, IE almost always beats out BT since his spin crits but doesn't lifesteal) and if the enemy has to much armor to chop through, grabbing Last Whisper would be a better idea at that point since they probably are armor'd up more than BC can cut through