Talk:Veigar/@comment-26203093-20160604012626/@comment-26572180-20160613125346

meh protobelt is a good escape but I wouldn't recommend it for engage since you don't really want to be going in alone.

With max cd you use Q for large bursts multiple times in a fight and it does alot. W is grouped with your E to chunk people and R is the big nuke button for large threats to the team. Basically your job is not to solo carry but farm up, get ridiculous ap (I think my last game I hit 1300 ap at 30min), stack some magic pen (void staff+sorcerors shoes) and max cd. Then you become a second damage carry (APC) because frankly you often will have just as much dps and much higher burst than the adc. Your team will protect you like a kogmaw whilst you belt out stupid damage and you can also use e defensively if they engage first and then delete the enemy team.