Talk:Riven/@comment-121.209.35.202-20120612110127/@comment-186.136.186.166-20120615220606

^ A lot of crap talking. Yes she should be nerfed a little, Irelia was nerfed, so why Riven should stay the same? 4 dashes if she wants to, with a shield and a knock back, a stun without mana costs, a range increase with an AoE AD based ultimate killing you if you scape. Renekton stun is a single targe stun with a LONG cd, hes dash is small with a long and he can be poked to death without a shield or a burst of dashes. No range at all. Thats ok. Katarina is squishy as fuck for a melee champion, with a bouncing blade with small damage early game, non existant W pre level 6 and a shumpo with average damage early game that can save her ass but she needs a target to shumpo. She can deal sick damage late game, but her early game is pure shit (squishy, not a big base AD, useless W and her Q bounce only twice or maybe 3 times). I heard the "learn to counter" shit several times, then Riot nerfs the champion and everybody is like "Oh, they are right, she deserved the nerf so much, shes ok now".

And Darius is not OP, after his passive nerf and the little nerf on his ultimate hes ok.