Talk:Fiddlesticks/@comment-3489699-20110706041620/@comment-3238314-20110706162912

Take into account that Ryze, with his passive, can spam it every 4 seconds with max cdr(which is more oftenly gotten on him than fiddle),and the magic resist decrease also gives him extra damage on his abilities. Also, E can be given AoE damage. I'd say that overall the gap in power isn't too different.