Talk:Orianna/@comment-107.6.95.17-20121227174007/@comment-220.233.163.71-20121227213928

Entirely depends on the team compositions. If its a 'regular' spread of Magic damage and physical damage on the enemy team, AP mid and possiblly AP jungle/top, I'd go for the Athenes, rushing the early chalice gives 30 Mres which can make a big difference if you can get it fast enough. I usually get all the components for Athenes but I don't actually make the unholy grail itself very often, unless the game goes for a long time this is for matchs about 25 - 35 minutes long.

If your team is lacking late game burst getting the Archangels would be good but remember you will have less mres and without the Fiendish codex you also have less mana regen, I tend to build other items to make up for this rather than the Archangels but I like to make a more sturdy Orianna than other people I've seen.

If your getting these items due to mana issues try Mp5 scaling yellows and the Util mastery with Mp5 as well, Don't buy Doran's rings either, 2 rings cost 950 gold where as chalice cost 880 and Tear cost 700. Each giving much better stats by themselves than 2 doran's rings.