Talk:Elo rating system/@comment-217.120.196.190-20120522212844

as a 1600 elo player with over 800 games played I have now noticed that there is no real difference in the amount of rating i gain and lose. it's generally either 12 or 13. But no clear difference in the amount lost or gained. Your performance in-game does not affect the amount of points gained or lost, as long as you win you will gain 12-13 points and as long as you lose you will lose 12-13 points. Of course when you just start out playing ranked you gain and lose much more since the matchmaking is determing what your place is. this is what people often refer to as elo hell since in the 1200-1400 elo regions some bad players are capable of winning a game and then ending up in a game with other 1400 players who are much more experienced.