Talk:Vayne/@comment-4031457-20110628184002/@comment-4031457-20110629093258

I thought that was kind of the idea of carries in general: they're highly item dependent. This is why the EU meta of placing the AP carry in mid and the AD carry in bottom lane with a farmless support is currently gaining so much popularity. AP carries get much stronger with level advantages, AD carries get much stronger with farm because they are so dependent on it.

I agree with Kog'Maw though: he can still do at least decent damage with his W regardless of his farm, though keep in mind that his autoattack animation is way worse than Twitch's which can make last-hitting with him very difficult. I highly disagree on Tristana though. Her abilities do so little damage, and all her damage come from items (though her farming is ez mode).