Talk:Veigar/@comment-24343325-20150227043529/@comment-7095057-20150228041631

The only thing I really consider Veigar needs is a slightly faster stun time. .75 seconds is too long and while it's still not too hard to land his W against meele, ranged is very difficult.

As for the people saying his Q is a nerf... it's a deceptively fast (Faster than before despite being point an click), surprisingly wide ranged skill shot. It's as fast as Mystic shot but wider. People like Owen can say it doesn't change your AP gain but the simple fact is it does. At max level you're looking at 2-3 AP every 4.8-8 seconds, vs a potential 4-5 AP every 6-10 seconds. Roughly speaking you're gaining AP faster than before, so while the amount of minions you kill with Q doesn't change too much laning wise, the ability to double farm late game against pushed waves is much much faster, and gives you more leeway other than using W on a group of mobs