Talk:Nocturne/@comment-8506165-20131017143558/@comment-8506165-20131018011344

"Actually Tankturne exists because he still can deal a lot of damage because of his steroids even when built full tank."

So I've heard. Mundo has an AD steroid of up to 200AD on his E though, and %health from the cleavers, with a kit that benefits more from being built as a tank. And isn't dependent on being on a Dusk Trail for his steroid to be applied. Hell, even Sion of all people has a constant 65AD steroid and targeted hard CC that's not dependent on staying tethered to someone, and he can jungle just fine. He even gets free tankiness!

And this is ignoring all the junglers who have offensive stats scaling directly off their defenses, or relatively high %health damage. Amumu, Zac, Sejuani, Rammus, Volibear... Really, I don't see how Tankturne measures up to these guys. It just seems to me to be a case of shoehorning him into a tank role because that's the meta for junglers, even if you have Galio mid and Malphite top or something. Believe me, I've seen junglers built full tank even on ridiculously tanky teams when they're champs with great damage potential.

You don't see, or , so it's not like assassins in the jungle are impossible to work. Why is Nocturne the eternal exception?