Talk:Skarner/@comment-8468980-20140604032302/@comment-8468980-20140605045340

Even if this change singlehandedly brings skarner back from the dead they'd still need to address the enormous descrepancy between high utility tank junglers like naut, sej, and mao vs damage oriented bruisers like vi, xin, elise, and lee. It's funny because this is one of the best seasons for junglers ever but really only a select few junglers, the rest are kind of left in the dust.

I'll address some of the legit comments ;D

"hm, the only thing i don't like about it is that his passive sounds a bit too much like Braum's at first glance, and people are already bitching about Braum being too similar to other champs..."

It was my first thought too, but my guess is that they're up against the wall with skarner at this point. They took forever to rework him, it was a huge disappointment and they've been dragging their heels trying to tweak him. Its time to pull out the stops and bring him back imo.

"I'm assuming the numbers will be re-buffed up. Because that's way to big of a hit for a small stun and some movement speed. I like my damage Skarner tyvm."

Scruffy's mentioned that its a distinct possibility, but they don't want to simply create another bruiser with good item synergy only to have to nerf him again when they decide to finally address Vi, Xin, Elise, Lee etc for real.

"All he needs is some better base damage on E (which is ridiculously low, like 120 at max level is not even noticeable since you don't itemize for MPen) and I can see him being a strong jungler again."

It's altogether possible that this could happen, but I think giving him the ability to hard CC pre six is going to grant him far greater presence pre ulti and all but gaurantee kills regardless of flash after 6. Amping up the base damage could make it so that there's very little counter play, they could be afraid of scenarios where Skarner damages target down to 1/3 with abilities *while* perma-CCing that target.