Talk:Shyvana/@comment-182.50.64.67-20120702140133/@comment-178.166.24.118-20120702193748

Oh boy.... Where do I start? Phantom Dancer is an AD carry item. Nobody else should be building it. Shyvana doesn't the need crits and she's one of the fastest champions in the game already, so the extra MS is useless. Need AS? You buy a Wit's End, not a Phantom Dancer. And it also gives you extra MR.

BV on Shyvana? No. Just no. There are junglers where a BV is useful. Shyvana is not one of them. You have MR from Merc Threads, from Wit's End, from ultimate and eventually another situational.

Thornmail? It's highly, and i mean HIGHLY situational. Their team would need at least 2 or 3 strong DPSers before I'd even consider buying it. Randuins is much better and it also builds from a GP10 item which should be rushed after Wriggles.

Sell Wriggles to get Bloodrazor? Why? Does their team have five Warmog stacking champions? As it stands, MBR is overpriced and only justifies its purchase against very specific team comps.

Sell Boots? No! Why would anyone consider selling Merc Threads when they are the single non slot wasteful tenacity item in the game?? Not to mention the ridiculous level of feed you would need before managing such a strategy.

21/x/x masteries on Shyvana? No. 9/21/0 is the way to go no matter how you look at it. And why the heck would you put 8 points in Defense just to skip Veterans Scars or Bladed Armor?? Duh.

By the way, playing Shyvana on a solo lane? No. If you want a DPS bruiser you pick Jax, Olaf, Irelia, etc, not Shyvana. Not to mention your summoners. Ignite + Exhaust? No. Just no. Any half decent jungler would camp the shit out of you.

Jungle Shyvana has a hard time ganking because she's not made to be an assassin like Nocturne or a CC machine like Alistar or Nautilus. You pick Shyvana when you want to screw the enemy jungler by counterjungling all game. Shyvana is probably the jungler which requires the most map awareness. Why? Because most kills you get is when the enemy jungler comes to gank a lane and you're there waiting. Also, most people skip flash and take Smite + Exhaust for better ganking pressure at the very least. It's also useful for keeping the enemy carry briefly in check during a teamfight.

Sorry bro, but that post contains so many flaws it becomes painful to read. I guess it could work at 1000 elo, but not past that.