Talk:VPBE/@comment-7709681-20150515215856/@comment-10428734-20150517032719

What's annoying is that the new Abyssal is basically a better MR Sunfire. Way too redundant imo. The 2 items now have the same purpose and the current niche for Abyssal (damage+anti-burst for low/mid-range mages) is left unfilled. Just take Morg/Katarina/Kennen, what MR item are they going to buy now? (situationnally I'd buy that on Ahri/Annie/Akali too)

Also, it will pretty much remove Sunfire from the game. Stacking both could seem like a good idea, but on the contrary, new Abyssal makes Sunfire even LESS interesting. You can't afford to buy both without falling behind (unless you are snowballing out of control). Tanks are obviously really dominant atm, coming online ASAP allows you to have a bigger impact than the enemy tanks and carry the mid game teamfights. Sunfire is still a decent splitpush item, but a terrible teamfight item. If you stay in the top lane island for 30 minutes as if that meta never ended, you'll just find the enemy jungler 4/0 and your bot lane 0/8.

When 2 items are too similar, they don't complement each other: the strongest becomes the only good solution and the other becomes obsolete. New Abyssal can actually compete with other MR items in terms of tankyness, while Sunfire is still terribly cost-inefficient compared with other big armor items.

TL;DR: Champions that built Sunfire+MR will now buy Abyssal+armor. Champions that built Abyssal will probably just replace it by a standard AP item (e.g. Void/Luden's).