Talk:Veigar/@comment-4748826-20140825215237/@comment-24704296-20140906212419

The thing is, if you start looking for them, there are so many champs that dont offer counterplay. I think veigar is in a perfectly fine spot, where his early game can be crippled if played correctly (either all-in-assasin or long-range-poke&kill) and he will fall off in the late-late game (despite his infinite scaling) given that the two teams are about equal, as he is so squishy once the stun is down and his ult burned. and ga/bv can put those on a hefty cd. But most importantl, i think veigar has a very unique theme to him, and shouldnt fall victem to the no-counterplay/poor-kit-designt disease that so many champs could fall to if you scream loud enough (im not saying that i mean you as such a person im just trying to make a point) Let there be niche picks, its what makes this game so enyojable abd casual.