Talk:Ryze/@comment-1915708-20151112232328/@comment-5955640-20151112233902

It is. The cost of his cheapest spell is 40 mana. His other spells are 60 mana his mana pool is 392.

Against other mana champs he might do okay if those champs don't build Tear but if they do they'll push him out of lane eventually and this goes double for manaless champs.

Mana has been nerfed with the best mana items for sustain being for a jungler and a harasser but one has two less charges than the other and is 100 gold more expensive.

Mana items are cheaper but at this point if you can function without mana you have a much better chance of dominating your lane over Ryze early while he rushes Rod Of Ages.