Talk:Jarvan IV/@comment-4499945-20130206222239/@comment-15562896-20130207055655

Here I am ! Everything that was said is true. About Elise, your best bet is starting red pot + pots & 1 ward, try to lvl 2 cheese (hit 2 before she does), and all-in her at that point.

When jungling, taking W or not is a choice.. I used to take it every time at lvl 4 and it worked very well, I don't take it anymore and I have never missed a kill that I think I would have had if I took it.