Talk:Hecarim/@comment-3238314-20120419121918/@comment-3238314-20120419164434

I don't see how the 50% damage to minions hinders you. It's not for farming, it's for faster jungling and doing tons of aoe in team fights. It also doesn't hinder your attack animation at all, so it's simply extra AoE dps, and in the context of my current build, it deals around 380 aoe damage every 1.1 second along with your auto attacks. This is your main source of damage vs champions, that's why it's good to max it first.

Builds vary on him for me. If i stay top lane, i like to build 2 dorans and tier 2 boots, then go trinity. I may build an aegis, then bloodthirster + maw of malmortius. Trinity is core, because of the 1 second cooldown on Q. Aegis is good because it provides a larger health pool, and resists that make the healing on W count for more. I think getting frozen heart is also decent, because of the tankyness and the cooldown reduction. I like Bloodthirster and Maw together, because they make you decently survivable against both physical and magic damage, and the AD from them and trinity should ammount to you having 320 or so ad most of the time.

If your team mates do well enough, your W will keep you alive while doing this big dps.

I go 0 22 8 in masteries, picking up anything with movement speed, cooldown reduction, and everything that makes you tankier.

My runes consist of AD marks, MS quints, magic resist/lvl glyphs, and either armor or mana regen/lvl seals (just because it makes it solves all the mana problems he may encounter). When jungling, i get AS marks instead, i think it speeds him up more than ad or armor penetration.

Disclaimer: I didn't discover the full aspects of this champ yet, so take this with a pinch of salt, I'm still learning.