Talk:VPBE/@comment-9477978-20140719134753/@comment-35229418-20140721130633

Both champions? Actually, I've seen Xerath in many Diamond games lately. I see the similarity with Karthus, but Xerath is long-range. We could think about him as a Karthus-Vel'Koz hybrid, but he doesn't really counter high-mobility champions now, so I see your point. In fact, Xerath was the only ranged champion I can think of being able to do that.

About the self-lockdown, yeah, it may be true. Karthus, Vel'Koz, Xerath, Malzahar, Warwick... Well, Warwick has other problems as well. But the others are fine. I guess it's just that people don't like to lock themselves. I can understand it for Malz and Warwick - it's just click and wait until the damage ends, while other suppressions and self-roots look more interesting to me - but that's just personal taste.