Talk:Vi/@comment-15280970-20140523033248/@comment-9705522-20140526132436

It doesnt make sense that she knocks up either, however. Stun is a lot more fitting, especially since knocking someone out is the usual thing you do when punching. And again, you can make it look like a knockup and be a stun.

And no, it wouldnt make her useless. Or pointless. She would be still worth a pick. And im sorry, but if the main reason you pick a character is to take away counterplay and fun from the enemy, just so you can make sure he will never be relevant, then thats a bad thing, and that champion deserves not to be good. But she still will be good. That change is the very least you can do. Personally, id change even more, but id also rebalance other stuff.

It goes on cd. Wow, ZH is counterplay, right? ... not for her main targets. Those are still fucked. Few Adcs can actually get ZH, because the build path is awful, its defenses otherwise are awful, and its expensive.