Talk:Gragas/@comment-15562896-20121213013725/@comment-4888212-20121223025710

i disagree on the "overnerfed".

his basestats were increased, his manacost was adjusted (he has plenty of it anyway), and his ults CD was raised because it was way too low (~38sec on high cdr).

now he is in a balanced state, but a niche-pick due to his strange ad/damagereduction skills and/or ratios.

still strong, and definitly not bad. just takes alot of practise to get behind the type of play he needs.