Talk:VPBE/@comment-26160197-20191116115822

i don't have exact numbers but from the limited testing i did with the new sup itesm they seemed to start penalizing you if you had to much farm based on the current game time not based on a fixed amount of farm but yeah hard farming the first 3 and a bit waves did put you over that threshhold maybe it is something to the order of 5 cs/min or something that you have to stay under till the T3 item