Talk:Swain/@comment-84.169.7.128-20110521191414/@comment-4001736-20110526131923

Okay, now of course the original poster had nothing to back up the claim, but you can't call it baseless completely. I mean look, it's a known fact that in the game ap users are initially the strongest but once the range has been closed in and a melee carry can get up close and personal their toast.

But with swain? oh he just ults, which is similar to Renektons and Nasus, except theirs aren't nearly as effective. And even with that, if he's gotten hour glass, rod of ages, and rylai's good luck getting a kill off of him.

He's basically the problem solver to squishy mages, by being the opposite of just that, he is in fact a tanky mage, now I know you all think Rumble, but really, rumble has no heal that can be devastating in team fights, healing for 240+ per second. With a tanky ap build, that's nothing to laugh about.

Swain isn't a tank but he may be the first mage to be a sucessfull offtank.