Talk:Twisted Fate/@comment-24023648-20140217010910/@comment-24586863-20140224153157

I don't think he needs a lot of rework, just a little bit. All he is lacking is decent AA damage/range.

The argument that his ult does not do damage misses the point of his ult. He does not have to be able to burst a 1v1 opponent, because he can get kills by mopping up runaways from other fights and ganks. Coordinate a gank from your jungler on your mid opponent and you can instantly gank top or bot after the kill. Normally a gank in one lane gives a sense of security in the other lanes, since the jungler is busy. With TF in mid, that sense of security can be heavily abused, since TF can Gate straight into another lane.

The available time for PaC is indeed an annoyance, but that's the most important skill to learn (you just need to be able to count to 3) and being able to pick gold 99% reliably (and timing your next attack) is what makes a good TF player.

As for the remark on being useless in teamfights: far from it. Yes, you need to kite to stay alive, but you are the one who decides who lives and who dies. GC on the right target takes out the carry and support in no time and in a big mess your WC can severely cripple a whole team in one blast. Remember that WC damage does not decrease after passing through an enemy. And when the teams scatter after the teamfight, you can use Destiny to get a visual in the jungle and mop up fleeing champs.

And of course, there are champs who can counter TF, but until now I have only encountered two who can do that reliably: Ziggs and Fizz. Ziggs because of his annoyingly long range and low-cost burst capability. Fizz because he can dodge all your GC's. Counters like Akali and Shaco are not that reliable, since you can ult them out of stealth.

And as long as he stays unpopular because "he is weak" he will not get banned, which is only good news for players like me ;-)