Talk:Karma/@comment-24035310-20140405151831/@comment-5955640-20140409165929

Really? When has that ever happened? I own lanes when taking on Alistar and Thresh. Your Q is far quicker than Thresh's engage with the grab and it's on a much shorter cooldown. You'll poke them sitting in the minion wave and in the bushes and they won't have much in response.

Alistar is the best to kill he can never flank you well. Your string and his headbutt is the same range even when knocked in a given direction. If you set it on him the second he's in range he'll get locked in everytime as he sets you up to be knocked back. Getting himself rooted and focused on. Easily you can just ult shield away doing damage to him as your carry blasts him down.

If you really want to find out how to do well against Karma I have two support options. One is Nidalee. It's obvious. Nidalee has far more range in harass as Karma and she doesn't need to stand in minion waves to be in range. She also heals off occasional pokes so you can out poke and out sustain Karma in lane. Out of lane Karma starts outplaying you though. Soraka is your second choice. Yes Soraka. It would be a passive laning phase but you would win the lane as long as you make sure to not get ganked by the jungler. As long as you never present yourself to be a target you can just sustain your Marksman ally so they can harass and take harass.

It really works there's very little you can do as Karma when the sustain and harass is so heavily locked down.

In the end you don't want a kill lane support. Karma benefits from fighting grabbers because they have far weaker poke potential and most of them are in melee range. She also peels away and locks them down.