Talk:Jarvan IV/@comment-3419132-20120518154926/@comment-4677525-20120518210123

Jungle Jarvan is what I have the most experience with so I will field that one first. When I play Jungle Jarv I almost ALWAYS play him as though I am main-tanking. This is because Jarvan's damage output is so high early to early-mid game and his ganks are so strong that typically you don't need the damage to rack up early kills and assists. Instead, I tend to go more for mostly defensive items: Cloth + 5--->Wriggles, Merc treads, then (depending on how the match goes), Frozen Mallet or Warmogs for health, and then FoN + Atma's.

Keep in mind that the way I play jungle Jarv is to maximize survivability so that I can stay alive while they continuously focus me. Jarv's damage output WILL fall-off the longer the game goes on but his utility will not - the longer you stay alive the more disruption (and ultimately damage) you can do. Leave the heavy dpsing to someone else (typically assassins, mages and AD carries).

Hmm...it's been a while since I have played him solo top so I wouldn't be the best person to ask about that. Although if I did revist it I would try a more DPS-heavy build like: 2x Dorans Blade, Merc Treads, Brutalizer, Frozen Mallet, and maybe BT and selling Brut for Last whisper. Obviously, I would get some survivability items like FoN or something when needed.

I'd build him more DPS because laning is a whole different beast from jungling. In my mind, Jungling Jarv is designed to enable and laning Jarv is intended to shut-down. If you can harass the lane opponent and crush them, then there won't be a real late-game damage fall-off to worry about with Jarvan. Jarvan, despite not having sustain, has a lot of natural tankiness from his E + damage from Q and passive. This means that he can trade positively against a lot of top lane champions and can potentially shut-down the lane.

I believe it was Guardsman Bob who coined the term: "Win lane, win game." If I pick solo-top Jarv that is pretty much what I intend to do: Crush the lane and let my utility crush the game! Again, this is THEORETICAL, though; while I endorse my JUNGLE build follow the LANE build at your own discretion. XD