Forum talk:Neekerivittu/@comment-4012115-20121114141918/@comment-86.213.217.93-20121114162044

even in jungle... he's trash

i was midding with draven on PBE ( for fun and testing him before buying, i tested him bot before ofc)

and... yeah he ganked me, nice damage and OP slow zed.. jk that slow barely affected me and the damage was bad i got away of his gank with 80% hp i was full life before, wtf man he got in melee range and barely scratched an AD carry??

top he can't fight bruisers, mid he's like a bad talon/xin zhao/pantheon they're all 3 MUCH MUCH better at countering mids (and to be honest xin and panth require 0 skill mid, just clikc the ap mid and burst him)

bot, useless

jungler, trash gank, ok clear,  bad 1V1

so      mid is the only place  if you want to cripple yourself

it's like picking heimerginger, you can but it's bad.