Talk:Kha'Zix/@comment-5334902-20131030144720/@comment-5977018-20131120025522

Well, I'm testing Hydra building atm, had about 2-3 matches with it and it seems like it works pretty well sofar, however I would feel more comfy to say a clear opinion about it after I played more game like that.

As for the video, I uploaded it to mediafire so that you can either watch or download it without anyone being able to tell you if you can watch it or not: http://www.mediafire.com/watch/jn8i8d1jvvoc7a3/Muramana_Kha.mp4

let me ask you something: I actually just run a test with Having BotRK and Cleaver, but to actually used ashe for the test this time since it's easier to poke bots from distance then melee and see resoults. What I noticed was weird, I build A berserkers greaves, BotRK, Cleaver and a Manamune (so I can try it with other champions), solong Manamune not transfored into Muramana BotRK applied 1 stack of cleaver with each auto attack BUT if you use BotRK's active it does apply a stack on the target who you used it on since it's physical damage thats not merged into your AA like his passive. The weird part is: once I stacked up Manamune into Muramana and toggled it on each and every AA I made applied 2 stack of cleaver, shortly after I came to the conclusion that it's possible that both the AA and BotRK's 5% hp shred activates Muramana so what I tried is: I sold BotRK, after that I was no longer able to produce double stacks with only Muramana and Cleaver. So in theory what happend when I had the 3 item at once is:

Auto Attack made Amplified with extra damage from Muramana toggle and BotRK Passive, applying 1 stack of cleavcer in total

However Muramana considered the 5% HP bonus damage that BotRK added to our AA as "single target spell" so it went off a second time, and since the source this time was a "single target spell" not an AA it did applied a stack on the target too, making us end up with 2 stack.

So technically what this confirms is: The extra physical damage from Muramana's toggle is capable of applying a cleaver stack too, but only if it was triggered by single target spell, and not a simple auto attack. This is kind of the same story of how Kha'Zix can apply 2 stacks of cleaver on first AA using his passive which is explained in the video which you should be able to watch now.

Draven's Q is actually a single target spell as far as I'm avare of it, however I don't have the champion, so I can't try this. Same case with Vi. But I wouldn't be too surprised if they would work too. In any case, I can only check if they will be free.