Talk:Zyra/@comment-25223119-20160420155931/@comment-1330314-20160422120507

Having played her on the PBE a couple of times, I'd say she still has too much burst even now, and could do with even less damage on her basic abilities, and more on her plants. If you want to be a mage with powerful nukes and poke, there are dozens out there that can do just that, but Zyra's plants are what make her stand out, and should provide by far the bulk of her damage.

I'm actually kind of disappointed that they didn't really change Zyra to be a viable support, even though that was promised. She has more than enough damage and scalings to be a strong mid laner, but her support contributions have been lessened, if anything, with her seeds no longer being able to reveal champions (even though such a change was needed with the new passive model). The only thing support Zyra truly has going for her is her E and her ult somewhat, and even then there are usually stronger or more reliable instances of crowd control on other champions who also have other helpful abilities to offer.

As for her W, I agree, the ability was always boring and now it's redundant as well. The passive is a piss-poor excuse for ranking it up, and the active does not feel impactful, particularly since there are usually enough seeds lying around to be deployed reliably with a little positioning. Balance aside, it's the only ability in her kit that feels half-baked now, and it would be awesome for Zyra to have a proper active in that slot instead, even at a cost to her burst or overall damage.