Forum talk:Neekerivittu/@comment-94.109.28.218-20121116164932/@comment-3238314-20121118154320

88.207.113.156, It seems i have to spell it out slowly. If Zed can do everything fizz can, AND MORE, then he's op, no questions asked. Fizz has 2 mobility skills on a relatively short cooldown, and that's fine. He has his own kit, which fills a certain niche, and has certain strengths that make you pick him instead of other champs.

You think Zed's ult is bad because it's counterable and on a lengthy cooldown? Well, you're being slightly disingenuous and selectively ignorant:

Talon: Ult countered by vision.

Rengar: ult countered by vision.

Fizz: ult countered by QSS/moving out of the fish's way/someone moving in front of you so you don't get hit.

Kat: stun her/move out of the ult.

Diana: dodge/dash/flash out of her Q. This stops her from multi-casting her R.

I guess most of these heroes have bad ults? I'll grant that kat and diana from the list either have really short cooldowns, or ways to decrease the cooldown, and I believe zed's ult at lvl 1 should be around 100 seconds cooldown, and at lvl 3 it should be around 70-60, but is a 10-20 second change, it's not all that major of a problem. If you're arguing that his ult is somehow easier to counter than other assassin type ultimates, i think you either don't reason well, or you aren't using his kit right.

Skills don't deal that much damage? i find that to be a strange thought. let's analyze. Thanks to his shadow's passive, he gets 25% extra damage from external ad sources. This kind of makes his scalings 1.25 times bigger than they are written. Therefore, we have an assassin that has a strong auto attack, a 1.25 AD scaling nuke that scales for 2.5 when all 3 shurikens hit, and a 3 second cooldown 1.125 scaling E. combined with strong auto attacks, i'd say this is a pretty good deal.

So "because Nidalee has poke all other poke champs fail and should not be played" is a real argument? So in the same idea, because i like Ahri's sustain passive, i should play vlad because he has the best sustain? Because soraka has the best heals, i should stop playing Sona/taric/janna? I'm gonna let reality settle this one.

If you like fizz so much, you are free to play him, and "main" him. Just don't be surprised if that makes you poor in judging other champs since your increased familiarity with him makes champs you have 0 experience with seem weaker.