Board Thread:League of Legends discussion/@comment-24491513-20141010220000/@comment-11013454-20141016164033

Necoarc wrote: Well. Usually, pros just pick strong characters after some analysis of their posibilities and strengths. But some ppl needs a reality check sometimes. They keep saying bs, like: "it is just about stupid rage..u need to adapt...get better...and other blabla". Behind their stupid arrogance they can't (don't want to) see the real state of things. Soraka is terrible now, even if u compare her with "old" no-self-infuse soraka. She was strong because her direct silence, and was able to counter a fukin whole bunch of assassins who's gonna spit now on ur precious aoe silence. Also healing now is truly nice, cost not only 10% max hp, but mana. Just wow. Okay, u can control starcall now. Be happy, guys. But Ultimate, cmon, dont make laugh my shoes, now does incredible amounts of heal for 150hp (225hp if allies below 50%hp) with just a very short cooldown of 160secs. Cool stuff. And now, tell me, pls, why i should pick Soraka over Leona, Thresh, Blitz and Lulu?

I play Soraka since s1 and i know what im saying about.

p.s. There, in wide range of competitive games, ppl making a tier lists. And know what? They're dont just make em for fun or while nose drilling. In games, there is always will be stronger champions, heroes, classes, builds..w/e. Think about it, Sindal. "there will always be stronger champions, heroes, classes, builds"

...your point? Where in thread did claim soraka was the OP omg best pick GG support?

My point, is that soraka is more useful now, and some people might even consider playing her because of the strengths she poses by herself, more so than before where basilcy no one even thought about picking her at all. She's not the easiest champion to play and she's stil not top tier. but that's not the point of a rework. A rework is to rework something into soemthing that's managable and engaging and fun to get to know and make you feel good when you've 'mastered' it.

There is nothing they can turn soraka into that is still 'a healer' that would cause her to spiral to the top of the 'tier chart'. Because healing doesn't complete the objective of the game, damage wins games. Who does, or facilitates at the very least, damage? all the popular supports. And they will continue being the higher tier supports. And i'm entirely fine with that, that's just how things are. But that doesn't mean that a champion who had been reworked to make her more active and helpful on the battlefield is now wasted. An improvement is still an improvement. It takes a little more effort and understanding to see the improvement, but it's an improvement non the less.

I don't even consider the mana cost when i think of my W, it's so low it might as well not even be there with even a half decent mana regen. Being able to control your Q makes much more sense than a self aoe like i'm some of star paladin. E is arguably her most improved skill as it can invisbly sway teamfights right in your favour by stoping 4 backline champions from comboing the way they are supposed to. No one has time to be mindful of her E during a teamfight, you don't have time to think "Oh i better move to side to get out of this E range" when your locked in a 2v2 duel and the enemy is currenlty burning your hp like no tomorrow. The fact that i can basilcy zone a specific area and lay warning traps around the battlefield itself is enough. Why are you even mentioning her wish? it's the one part that stayed mostly functionally the same.

Let's say thresh hooks your adc and he's started the motion to jump towards him. You equinox where your adc is standing. That thresh is now incapable of flaying or boxing and WILL be snared if he doesn't move immediately. Fizz is chasing and he dashes. You equinox the general eara around his target. He can't do his untargetabiliy hop immediately as he stops his dash now, which is normally the bit of leeway time you need to react defensively. Vayne can now shoot him away, he can be CC'd. He may not be snared, but the simple act that careful placement robs fizz of his survivability tactic is golden, and you CAN"T always get a targeted silence in that time. Still not amazing and doesn't bring jesus down to earth with it's OPness but it gets alot done as it is.

Do you know what arrogance means? it means thinking your better than everyone else for no concrete reason supporting your superiority. Saying "I play soraka since S1 and i know what i'm saying about" implies some arrogance. You assume that since you've played her before for an extensive amount of time, that your opinion is now massive and all knowing. It doesn't mean much though. Your playtime of old soraka doesn't mean anything if you don't seem willing to learn how to play S4 soraka, because she's much diffrent. she requires a much different mentality when playing now. You are hte martyr, the guy who is willing to make the sacrifice for the good of everyone else, the guy who's not getting drunk at the club and has to hawl their asses home while they fall over the pavement.

If there was anything i would change to give here a little more kick i would say that Q progressively gets faster as you level it up to make it easier to land if you chose to level it, possibly reducing the Max hp cost to 8% or 9%, or similiarly make it cost 0.5% less for each extra level you put in it just to give her a little mid to late survivabilty. Possibliy even convent 0.5-1% of the donated health into the heal (Late game saps out like 180+ hp right now and a high conversition rating tied in with her low cooldown may make people overflow a little. It also encourages you to get more hp which isn't always the best idea)

BUt soraka will always be outshined by other supports. That's because she's different. She's not a stun machine or a damage acceslerator, things that have higher importance. She's a mistake erasor, and unfortunately theirs only so many mistakes she can fix before the other team passes the test anyway.

Why pick soraka?

Because i like her. She's fun to play and she's got a cool design. And i appreciate Riot throwing her some kind of bone, even if it wasn't the strongest or biggest bone and make her fit with the meta just a little bit more to warent playing in some more situatios. And with a competent well balanced team she makes them glow to an extent that the enemy is forced to kill her if the dont want the teamfight to be swayed against them. She's not op though. She can't be op. A healer being OP means that nothing ever dies and theres nothing you can do about it no matter how much burst you throw at it and that you had to throw down 4 ulties just to kill their squishiest dude. OR, it means that she becomes broken in lanes where she doesn't support and defies her initial role of a healer so much that you might as well take the support tag off of her, nerf her into oblivion and leave her dying on the floor at the state where evne the support people can't play her as anything.

If you don't like it, then just don't play her.Never ever play her, i couldn't give a monkey's banana if you drop her in favour of the statistically better supports because that's your choice and if you want to win it's also a sound plan. But just ebcause you don't like it, doesn't mean it's bad. It means you don't like and you should find something you do like that you enjoy playing and play those champions. Don't just rattle off some numbers at me with some sarcastic sentence after it as if it's blatantly obvious how bad it is, in a game that requires so much context to each situation like items or champion picks. All that really tells me is that you read her wiki page.

THIS threads issue, was that soraka was ruined. If you didn't want her to change then of course she'd be ruined for you. That doesn't mean what you assocaited with was healthy. Your argument is that she's terrible compared to other supports. And yes, she's not as strong as them because she was designed to do a different thing that by concept alone makes her depend on her team more than other supports, because healing is essientally just saying "I can't fight this alone, so here, get stronger and live so you can do it for both of us".

I'm not going to convince you on anything. That's something I know. But sometimes, people are just glad one of their favourite champion received some additioanl playability to make them worth a damn and get annoyed when everyone else shits on it called it a failure and ignoring the point of a rework because it has balancing measures.