Thread:Willbachbakal/@comment-1920550-20161003011221/@comment-1330314-20161013233338

Darksusanoo wrote: First off i never said they need to have their AD scaling nerfs.

What was this, then?:

Darksusanoo wrote: You'd also have to change how ranged characters scale with AD, because that is why ADC's are so core. They are a source of safe and low cost DPS.

I also think marksmen have a lot more survivability than you think, certainly more than mages. Sure, mages have spell ranges, but marksmen have good range plus life steal and often mobility to boot, which means they're a lot better at surviving actual combat. I also don't think Nidalee or Rek'Sai really count as "struggling", since their nerfs were because they were overpowered, and even then they're still top competitive picks even now, even if they sometimes do feel unsatisfying.

I still stand by the idea of making items amplify base stats, but the intent behind that was never to lock off itemization options altogether. Ideally, champions like Ekko, Fizz or Akali would get to opt into tanky itemization, it just wouldn't give them nearly the same returns as they do now, so it would be a case of making a massive tradeoff for the sake of a very niche situation (e.g. Banshee's Veil because the enemy Leblanc got fed, for example). I think it's absolutely fine for AD Soraka to exist and even be successful, provided it remains healthy and fun (which, as far as I know, should be the case for her). The problem with overly generic itemization is when it lets champions cover their weaknesses without appropriate tradeoffs, not when it lets players opt into any alternate build at all.