Talk:Karma/@comment-27993288-20160317005326/@comment-4091261-20160317214051

Aside from comparisons. Galioisgroup isn't wrong in saying that became a lot weaker. Taking away the damage from is a huge blow to her damage output for both early game laning and mid game teamfighting.

However, when you consider that had all this damage output beforehand along with the utility, it's not wrong to say  was overloaded. I personally think Rito pulled a / and overnerfed her. Her utility is definitely a metric ton more frequent late game, but with it comes with an immense loss in damage output without the damage from since that was one of her two main teamfighting damage abilites.

It's a natural reaction to consider comparing her to other champions that do similar things. It's like how when was reworked, he is very easily compared to  who is buffed to oblivion. identity was changed and therefore made him subject to comparisons with champions who fill the same role as him. shifting more towards supporting and less towards her mage aspect makes her subject to comparisons with utility champions.

That said, I personally wonder why Rito doesn't replace the damage from with some enemy debuff--maybe a slow so her kit isn't overbearing. The ability to effect enemies and allies simultaneously was a large part of niche, even before she was reworked.