Talk:Vel'Koz/@comment-9048637-20151108223258/@comment-9048637-20151122225844

Sigh. Okay, now I'm stopping this. As much as I like debating on ths internet, there's only so much personal I can take, and how often my points and arguments can be completely misinterpreted, before it just stops being fun for me. I realize you'll probably regard this as some kind of victory, but I'll let anyone who gives a shit enough to read all of this (probably not many) decide for themselves who was conducting themselves better here, and who was more in the right.

A few final points:

- I never said AP quints were on their way out. I said I consider AP quints suboptimal on Vel'Koz and Vel'Koz alone. I'll admit that that's my opinion, that there are tradeoffs being made, and that maybe AP quints are the way to go. That said, I stand by the idea of swapping out one quint, whatever your choice, for a scaling CDR quint. Time will tell if I'm right on that. But I think it's a good idea to keep an open mind in a time as volatile as the preseason.

- Scaling runes in general: scaling yellows and blues are already standard on most solo laners. The main exception is flat MR blues for weak laners (or melees who are going to get bullied by APs). Scaling health seals are practically universal on top and mid lane; most AP mids run either scaling AP or scaling CDR (yes, actually, it's not just me). Why? Because these runes break even with their flat counterparts somewhere between levels 6 and 9 (depending on the rune in question), which is still rather early in the game. If you don't believe me, please by all means look up any high elo (or indeed professional) player of your choice. If you find that the majority are arguing something different, I'll eat my hat. I'll also eat my words, because whatever you might claim in your ad hominems, I do value intellectual honesty.

- I do play the game, and I enjoy reasonable success on Vel'Koz. I don't play ranked, so there's honestly not much point in me posting my account details since you won't be able to see any winrates for me. If you want to know my full build, I've posted it a few times in other comment chains; if you're really that curious, you can go searching. That said, all of this should be irrelevant. This is an argument about theory, and it's honestly a bit rude to throw your rank about (not to mention an argument from authority fallacy).

There's more I could say, much more, but I don't think it's worth it. I won't say I won't reply again (never say never and all), but I think it unlikely. In spite of how poorly I think you've comported yourself in this debate, I wish you a good day.