Talk:Gragas/@comment-4882410-20120324231947/@comment-206.248.241.154-20120328193113

Now i'm guessing you guys are probably wondering why, with all these good points, wouldn't one see gragas way more? well the sad truth is, for all the potential gragas has. Messing him up is practically un-forgivable. You screw up his ulti in a gank and push the enemy away prepare to be raged at. And you gotta learn to land that Q harass. If you can't land barrels on others, he loses almost all his damage. While he is somewhat tanky, this doesn't mean you can E into a team-fight and expect to survive. Sure, 18% damage reduction is nice, but it won't make as tanky as some. Also, don't waste too much mana early game spamming barrels at lvl 1. Pitiful damage when you're q is at lvl 1. Also, if you're good at conserving mana, grab E at level 2 and W at level 4. If you're new to him and still a bit mana-hungry with him then W at 2 and E at 4. Still, level up E before W because the sheer utility E provides only increses with more speed. W's damage reduction, well, scales on the damage enemies do, so you mine as well save that for late game when enemies are doing more damage.

In team-fights, don't get into the mind-set that you're the fragile AP carry that wait's for the tank to initiate. Gragas is an incredible initiator. Never forget that you're Q reduces AS. This can help shut down the enemy AD carry. Usually when ganking I wait for my ally to lock the enemy down. THEN i use my ult, using you're ult on a moving target can be risky for the reason i stated at the beginning. Then use you're E to slow and Q to deal damage. Also, keep you're W on whenever you're going to be engaging with the enemy early game. And keep it on, pretty much all the time late game.

My build is: Dorans, Dorans, Dorans, (boots), (RoA), Revolver, (Rabadons), (WoA), (Lich Bane), (Abyssal Scepter). Don't bother getting a Rylai's, all of gragas's damage is AoE (unless you're hitting one person with you're E) And you have enough slow from E anyway. feel free to change as the game goes one. I mainly grab RoA and Abyssal scepter for the bit of extra tankiness they provide. Lich bane, i get this because gragas can still hit hard with his AA's. If you time you're skills right you can proc it a few times pretty quickly.

Ok, i'm gonna stop here. This is just my 2 cents. I play Gragas as a main really so i can't help but give my opinion. ;)