Talk:Elise/@comment-24124171-20140208211909

I use Elise all the time and I think she is extremely strong and I love how much power she has early-mid game, but her kit was never one that would strike me as one that is banworthy. Currently she has one of the highest ban rates, but she doesn't have a particularly powerful snowball nor does she have the capability to engage on you from far away and kill you instantly (Kass, Gragas, Kha, Yasuo, Vi), which most of the top ban rates have. Furthermore while I think she has the best counterganks in the game her ganks are not exactly extraordinary compared to someone like Lee Sin. Both Elise and Lee Sin rely a lot on one skillshot in their ganks, but Elise is banned way more often. In teamfights, even if she builds tanky (which means she won't have much damage) she is not unkillable by any means. She hasn't even gotten any changes in a long time that would make her suddenly more powerful. So what is it? The rappel? The damage? The stun? Lee Sins hating on someone who can outduel them?