Talk:Lee Sin/@comment-27.110.141.164-20120507082041/@comment-15562896-20120507123237

They didn't nerf first W rank so it didn't even affect your jungle at all. Just don't try to actually jungle if you start doran's blade, do your buff and lvl 2 gank.

He's still a good jungler but he needs so many successful gank to be worth something late game that I don't find him such a great pick. I don't know why he's banned/picked so much, I hardly see anyone really have an impact on the game as Lee Sin.

He's one of the best ganker, yeah, but Mundo/Udyr are actually pretty decent (even though weaker) gankers and require way less successful ganks than he does. They also clean the jungle way faster than he does. Not to mention their late game is 10x stronger.