Talk:Ryze/@comment-87.253.47.107-20121126134851/@comment-5151680-20121201024854

You are correct, I did forget cast times. I was wrong about that.

So mathematically, the absolute minimum cast tiem ias 8.1s seconds, and the average is is around 8.7 seconds.

I did however just do some testing, and was able to do the full combo in just under 7seconds, so I think the estimated cast times might be a little off, or, as is possible with some other champions, you can ignore about half of the cast time if you take another action immediately afterwords.

Either way 7-8 seconds is around ~6 seconds and still far less than 12 seconds.