Talk:Kayle/@comment-43333802-20190828233138

So how is the new kayle guys ? any good kayle here that could say someting ?

I never played or mained the new kayle much, but i played her while she was new reworked (jungle, full crit, ad) but never again since the "you must go ap" patches and the "you must build even more ap" patches.

I see her as a bad version of cassiopeia, vladimir, neeko or kennen (heck maybe even teemo) right now.

Her waveclear is gone till lvl 11 (before the nerf you were able to push waves from lvl 6 on with just pressing Q E on backline minions).

Her true damage is gone, and now the ap ratios gone even more up to the point where i dont wanna go Crit anymore, which throws up the question why she has the crit thing going on in her kit anyway.

The bonus range alone would have fixed her but all the sneaky nerfs coming along with it, they dont even compensate for her weak late now.

Whats your opinion guys?