Talk:Vi/@comment-4696002-20130605170338/@comment-4696002-20130622101028

What I'm saying is - Her Shield is bloody crappy without any items, her Q is very unreliable and the knockback isn't particularly satisfying, her W doesn't do much against the intended targets(squishy adc), her E cooldown is fucking huge and scales poorly.

Her ultimate is about really her saving grace from being a crap tier jungler - no offense to Vi players around - I just never saw a single good Vi since her nerf - at least then she could do some solid auto damage.

Lee has triple the mobility, higher AD scaling, utility and hilariously, for the most part - a comparable shield on a lesser cooldown.