Talk:Shaco/@comment-93.111.167.88-20110207195019/@comment-139.130.57.34-20110211020522

I've played against plenty of AP shacos and quite frankly I'm not impressed. I don't know what ELO you're in but if a shaco is spending all that time in the jungle just planting boxes, we just ignore him and 5-man push mid. Their team then fights 4v5 and lose. We take down 2 turrets and shaco is still pathetically trying to bait us.

The only semi-effective AP shacos I've seen did not rely on JITB but rather went AP so they could nuke/poke from a safe range. But after the stealth/backstab/lichbane/dagger combo he's really left with nothing to do other than maybe his clone exploding. Him still having to go in melee range was again an issue for him.

Not saying he's bad or that AP is necessarily bad either, but JITB bait shacos are possibly the lowest ELO gimmicks on par with chasing a tank mundo.