Talk:Jarvan IV/@comment-180.216.41.84-20111219043048/@comment-68.162.69.166-20111224174118

How about Garen? He seem the combination of both. To me you can make an tanky Irelia and have pretty high dps. But, Jarvan meta to late game his stats suffers. If you go tanky his dps fall apart and if you go high dps his sustainability is poor. To get to that certain balance of both dps and sustainability is a very costly build and won't play a role till the very end of the game. To me the role of a tanky dps is to adsorb most damage for the other less tanky dps. If Jarvan don't have the dps to get the attention of the enemy what is the point? Yes, he got a knock up then what else his ult? Champion these days have an escape with that so what is jarvan left doing..........auto attack! But, where is his dps? I think rather changing his stats, change his passive except being restricted by time it should be apply after a set amount of hits.