Talk:Vladimir/@comment-78.128.173.181-20120301090918/@comment-3165723-20120313020312

Except that his tankiness only lasts for as long as he's sustaining himself. And in his sustain isn't moment to moment like Swain's is. Vlad's sustain gives him the ability to continuously outpoke people, but in a team fight he can't gain health fast enough to warrant his E being so short ranged.

Rumble has CC, Vlad doesn't. Ahri, Rumble, and Karthus don't depend on their close range abilities to do the bulk of their damage. MAYBE Rumble does but in any given sitation he's most likely going to be tankier than Vlad would be, not to mention he has a shield and tons of CC. No matter what kind of excuses you make, Vlad doesn't contribute to a team as much as almost any other ap champion could. He's a good solo queue champ, sure, but there aren't many situations in which sustain and longevity are better than CC/safe and reliable damage, which makes Vlad a poor choice for a team.