Talk:Gragas/@comment-200.23.29.77-20121114191847

To all new people here:

Do not listen to the ones who says "OMG Gragas is so outclassed by Orianna in ALL", because even when they are quite similar, Gragas has his pros against her:

1.- Higher AP Scalings (A lot higher) and higher AOE

2.- Gragas has very good HP and Mana Sustain  (W, passive)

3.- The fat man has jumps, can even jump walls, and for a mage he has very nice MS (among the highests for AP mids)

5.- Gragas barrels dont move so slowly as Orianná´s ball.

Etc etc etc.

And yes, of course Orianna has better things than Gragas in other areas but, most people always focus on negative side of things (thats easier than thinking with an objetive view).

If gragas was "nerfed" (increasing mana costs a bit TROLOLOL) was because he was the champion with the highest W/L Ratio in last world tournaments (around 70% when other champs is normally around 50%).

Oh, and for the DFG nerfs, guess what, that affect almost all ap´s, not just Gragas.