Talk:Orianna/@comment-178.40.106.103-20120720205447/@comment-4948122-20120720223457

Really?I mean really?Do people are this ignorant?She didnt deserved her overnerfs when she was released.She is easy to gank...her spells dont do that much damage as ryze/cass/swain for example and are pretty slow as well..40% of her burst comes from aas...which she needs to get really close to use.Her shield isnt reliable damage and the shield is gona become weaker and weaker if you dont max it second.Ult is hard to pull off unlees you have a galio/amumu.

She is quite fragile and slow.She is team dependant and her real strenght comes in teamfight...but she suffers from the same weakness as cassiopeia....mess up your position and you are dead.

ANd now i ask you...how is she overbuffed?Her q deals lower damage the more targets she hits...stay behind minions and she cant harass you with it...her W deplents her mana quickly...she comes to aa?hit her hard back...she tries to ult use your escape mechanism or flash in her and destroy her after wards...

Oriana has a pretty terrible early game...especially after the dmg nerfs on q..her low mobility makes her prone to ganks similar to kass pre six or brand/malz for ex.Even if you manage to survive her early game...she doesnt deal as much damage as the most picked mages aka karthus.

She also has the highest learning curve in the game...maybe tied with anivia.Until i see a pro dominate with her in tournyes im gona tell she is balanced and im gona dare say she still needs some small buffs.