Talk:Zeke's Harbinger/@comment-6281696-20150730202206/@comment-30090653-20160928112500

I know this shit is one year old but I have to answer in case someone read the disccussion.

The main problem here is what are you expecting of the support, it's a really "lacking", you make almost no money and you have to learn how to bring lot of utility with that little money and your abilities, there reason why the stats on support items sucks is because they are really cheap and they have to avoid other rols of using them.

The only way you can bring insane items to a rol that make no money is making them support only and even then player will find a way to exploid it like occurred with jungler items.

Basically what you are requesting is unreallistic, you can still make ton of damage and build ap items as a support at cost of the classic utility and it's probably the only way of making support work. You have to decide utility or damage, maybe a little bit of both but don't expect tons of damage at low cost.