Talk:Lucian/@comment-10477394-20150419163247

Worst ADC in the game. Long after the nerfs he's still currently sitting 8% winrate below ADCs like Jinx and Sivir across all ranked divisions, and still sitting 4-5% below mid-tier ADCs like Graves/Ashe/Draven/MF across ranked divisions. He needs some love. They went too far.

Lucian's catch was his strong laning and mid-game in exchange for his subpar late-game (500 range is absolutely terrible. In late-game teamfights as Lucian you will basically die to super tanks or get one-shot by mages whenever you get in damage range outside of using R. His E doesn't even cleanse slows anymore. And past 30 minutes hypercarries match or exceed your damage while being 200/300 range safer such as Kogmaw, Tristana, Jinx, and Twitch and having tank killing mechanics such as true damage, % damage, armor reduction and so on).

Lucian's niche in exchange for a lack of scaling like the 4 champions above? He was supposed to beat all of the above hypercarries in lane. Now that they castrated Lucians laning with the passive nerf not only does he not have a good late-game, but he has a subpar early game too. Even hypercarries like Jinx can outlane Lucian now while vastly outscaling him.

And his winrate reflects it. He's not only well below above-average ADCs, but also well below average ADCs. His W's cast time has always been extremely slow and clunky. His E costs mana again but doesn't cleanse slows anymore giving him no real compensation for his 500 range (even lower than Graves). His passive is neutered (lv1 tumble does more damage). He needs some love.