Talk:Taliyah/@comment-26420279-20160520040540/@comment-24496127-20160525035843

Literally 30% winrate everywhere. Every pro finds her useless right now. Her damage is stupidly hard to use to a point where it's not even worth playing her for her damage, she has nothing to use against Assassins, she has crappy range and no real ability to dive a carry unless you want to ult, and if you use your ult for that your position is probably just awful and who knows what you're splitting up.

Actually, all of her damage is delayed, so it's not even burst. She's just bad right now and needs buffs, and saying that everyone calling her bad is wrong or not good enough to use her is such a stupid overused argument in a game that's as easy as league of legends, that I really can't believe it's still in use. Taliyah brings nothing new, doesn't do anything other champions haven't done, doesn't have any groundbreaking mechanics(pun intended). There's hardly a learning curve to any of her basic kit, it's just too weak.

So you found some success with her and now you have some highground to say the champion is fine? Great, glad you think that way, I can win with her in a normal game too, but you just seem to be blindly praising a new champion that's way too weak, and all that'll do is make people try and play her in my ranked games and feed. Her potential damage is too low ranged and avoidable to hit who you want, and not fast enough that they won't kill you first.

If you want to consider damage that's situational to be burst Annies ultimate is a 515% ap Ratio burst ability.