Talk:Wukong/@comment-8969250-20150416182746/@comment-5955640-20150417222815

Setting the whole team to get killed and killing the whole team are two different things. Again.

You really don't know what an assassin is. Assassins are made to get in and get out and not be so resilient to a sustained fight. Most of Wukong's damage is made when he stays in the fight and he gets some tankiness to compensate but he's also designed to escape if it's too dangerous.

An assassin like say Yasuo could come in late to a team fight or follow through on say a knockup by another champion and sweep the fight. That's another thing an assassin does quite well. Wukong could do it but who is setting the team up if Wukong is waiting to sweep? He can't be the focus and the sweeper and the initatior those are different phases of a teamfight.

He really doesn't have the best ult in the game. It's a 162.5 knockup AOE that does damage over time and requires he enter with another spell and he has to cancel it to use any of his other abilities. It's a farcry from Fiddlestick's ult which he can use on you with just as much ambush potential, can be just as powerful damage wise, and it doesn't cancel any of his spells so he gets his AOE and the rest of his kit to use.

It's not even Malphites ult or Vi's ult or Sejuani's ult, or even Amumu,s ult.

We have way to many huge, cc locking, play making stun Aoe's to even Consider Wukong as one of the best.

The ult has really easy counterplay. Don't stand together, Ward the bushes, and get ready to dodge, It's more or less the same counter play to watching out for an Amumu initation.

It's not ghost if he doesn't also get anti unit collision which is an essential part of that spell. Any unit can get in his way and he's not immune to CC.

You don't know thing one about Son Goku you're just looking at these numbers and your losses to him and you're freaking out.