Talk:Udyr/@comment-7273169-20130901085405/@comment-5185239-20130904005625

Just get R>W>E> max R > max W > max E > 3 points in Q.

If you run Aspd Reds + MS quints (standard tank jungle runes) getting tiger isnt worth it as you will lack AD/Armor Pen to make it hurt alot. If you start getting points in other spells without prioritizing one the mana cost rack up quite a bunch.

Going phoenix allows you to go full tank since it only scales poorly with anything besides Aspd (which you have due to runes + passive). Getting gauntlet is the only offensive item youll need, while Wits End,BotrK and Rageblade are really good too.

Tiger needs to get some AD items later in the game (early on 1-2 dorans are enough to burst), which makes you less tanky. Its good for tower pushing, which is why most pros played him this way.