Talk:Heimerdinger/@comment-75.71.177.114-20121105052736/@comment-5052127-20121106172107

When they changed him from 6 turrets to 3 it was actually a pretty big buff, early and late... those 3 turrets were a lot nastier, tougher, and promoted themselves essentially... and the original slow ult when his turrets had longer range was so much better than his original of just upgrading a turret.

They never really buffed him after they brought his turrets down to 2, other than adding a TINY bit of late-game utility back into Q and R with the ammo update (which actually NERFED his early game EVEN MORE than the previous 5 patches did..) since then, not touched... about 2 years.