Talk:Zeke's Harbinger/@comment-6281696-20150730202206/@comment-26034614-20150811021755

Tell me, how many offensive Support items have there ever been? Not many, that for sure.

It's one option for a Support, one of many. It's not meant to solve your every problems.

"Third, the CD is monstrous. Yes it's balanced, but unless both of you are constantly attacking it'l most likely have an effective CD of at least 50 seconds, probably more once you take into account that the stacks will frequently reset or be triggered at the wrong time."

Well, if an ADC can't trigger it often enough to have the passive work on a regular basis, then you should search yourself another ADC. And by ADC I mean Player.

"Supports might not need the same amount of stats that other roles need, but they still need a significant amount. And an item like this, just like most of the intended "support"-items, just don't provide anything substantial. It's fine for the items to focus on utility and have the stats be secondary, but the stats still need to at a certain minimum for the item to be worth it."

I couldn't disagree more.

Mikael's Crucible: 40 magic resistance100% base mana regeneration10% cooldown reductionThe active is a free runaway ticket from hard-CC.

It's one of the most important Support items in the game. It's stats are ridiculous.

Locket of the Iron Solari: 400 health20 magic resistance10% cooldown reductionThe active has a 60 seconds CD on a rather strong shield from the moment you finish the build. It's one of the most important Support items aswell. It's stats are ridiculous. Now Zeke's Harbinger: 35 armor250 mana50 ability power10% cooldown reductionThe passive allows you to go full aggro with the right timing, giving even you as Support more firepower, while also strongly empowering your ADC for a long enough amount of time to kill. It's a change among Support items. It allows you to be offensive, but with timing and patience. It forces you to plan your engage and to set up a kill instead of just getting the last hit at a lucky moment during a random gank.It's requiring and that may be too hard for many to handle. But not for all, not for the good ones.It's stats are comparable weak as of the other items. But other than those it offers offensive stats in form of AP, which none of the other most essential Support items can give to you. It's a good item with good enough stats for the needs of a Supporter. It'll do fine.