Talk:Katarina/@comment-5877442-20150214232901/@comment-4001658-20150215220001

I was pretty ready to adapt to the new changes. Riot is still trying to balance Katarina but it's extremely hard to due to her passive being completely bonkers.

Katarina's laning phase is definitely an uphill battle in terms of farming and harrass.

CONS to her laning phase:

Her Q cannot collect every single minion

Her Q passively pushes lane

Her W and E both put her at melee range

PROS to her laning phase:

Manaless; throw q's without worrying about running out of knives

Can farm/harrass at the same time (by bouncing blades off creeps to last hit whilst hitting lane opponent)

Can attempt to dodge harrass via her E or sidestepping with the extra movement speed given by Boots of Speed start

The most important perk to me is that Katarina is near impossible to gank and her laning is extremely safe compared to other champions albeit at the cost of not being able to mainatain perfect cs.

You are correct that getting a full ult off is fairly difficult (especially with the recent vison nerf to her) so Katarina has to play very opportunistically (more than before).

It is true that as Katarina you have to wait out all the harmful cc before entering a fight but obviously there's the grand dilemna. The dilemna is... Katarina won't ult until Warwick has used his suppress. BUT Warwick won't suppress until Katarina ults. Then they're at a semi-stalemate with Katarina being at the disadvantage because a Katarina that doesn't ult cannot bring much to their team.

While it is difficult to kill your lane opponent, it CAN happen often(depending on the match-up). Your elo also affects how often you get kills in lane due to the experience of the lane opponent.