Talk:Irelia/@comment-24952680-20140807183341/@comment-7644418-20140918124549

Jax is honestly one of the most noob champs in the game.

His Ultimate requires no timing it's just i'm in trouble Hit R, Q is a no brainer if you need to escape jump to something.

Things you need to learn with jax in lane harass with 2 auto's on minions jump to enemy hit them back off counterstrike if necessary, always save a ward for a wall jump and learn to do that quickly, when to use E as a stun and when to use it to avoid auto's/aoe, and when finishing enemies empower Q, that's about it......... managing your 3'rd hit on R when you have a lot of attack speed can be pretty challenging if you want to be optimal about sharing the damage across minions.

In my opinion Irelia is far more skillful because if you miss one Q on minions it's honestly painful and messes up your rhythm and then there's the timing of E and the aiming of R which can get you kills from range...... in all honesty there's tonnes of shyt to learn with irelia imo and she's literally a champ you have to put time into to get results whereas jax players can do a lot of damage while being really bad players, bad irelias though tend to literally feed and have no clue what they're doing.