Talk:Jungling/@comment-5842523-20130506100411

I play fiddlesticks and am a new jungler (maybe 20 games but probably less)... I have a lot of issues that I really need advice on so if anyone could give advice that would be amazing as I have asked so many forums and so far noone answers -_-

1. I play support as my main role but need to learn to jungle and do enjoy it. One issue that causes is I tend to be extremely ward heavy. I usually carry 4 wards out of shop each time, 1 for each buff, then 1 for each river, and sometimes and extra 2 to try and put on enemy buffs.... and I generally find myself never really gaining money.

2.I spend so much time warding I usually fall behind on jungling and I consistently end up level 13 or 14 when EVERYONE is hitting 18, and I know this is really bad. I also usually don't have Zhonya's (primary fiddle item) until level 17 or 18.

3. The reason I ward so heavily is fiddle is very slow and has no ways to escape. and 1v1 vs. almost any jungler in early game I am going to lose horribly. I am not experienced with fiddle, and eventually they eat through my life drain and I end up dead. So I get scared and usually try to ward everything. I very rarely invade until later in games and I only ever invade buffs.... I never saw much benefit to stealing wraiths and stuff.

4.as far as ganking goes I am doing pretty well. one issue I have that is mostly because I am new at fiddle is that I ult and forget to fear after the ult lands.... OR sometimes I will ult in from none hidden places and they will run and not even get a tick of my ult. and then when I do get my ult off early game I usually am over my head and die because of no zhonya's... I am getting a lot better, and I think using my fear more has helped me become MUCH better

these are my issues.... I am still new, but at this point I am almost considering giving up... every game someone will be mad at me and call me a noob and I really don't feel like I am learning fast enough.... my clear times are much faster and my ganks are 100x better (as in I am not running in blindly and dying) but I am still getting counterjungled so easily and don't know how to stop it D: thank you for any help you can provide