Talk:Renekton/@comment-4948122-20120709180056/@comment-5009341-20120710195638

^^ wtf, new to rene? he is not a mage he is a ad caster, his aa is very strong, a perfect combo: e,aa,w,aa,q,aa,e,aa

^yes,

general i tallk about people who MASTERED irelia, not the garbage tier of players, who only play to feed their ego feed and who jack their elo up by only playing OP champs, but actually suck like whore

i like to question: have u ever played against a irelia master? if yes u would understand me, an irelia master will pretty much always beat a renekton master,

u have beaten an irelia? very likely the player wasnt a master

the problems with rene are:

he has to build damage and cdr to actually deal damage, if u look at other champs u see that their first items are pure defense and their masteries too, but they still deal more damage then u

his w stun is to short for the low damage it provides (not fury enchanced) and does not work on structures and is reducable by tenacity

his e cd at low ranks is huge and has a short range (without hitting a target)

overall: he is not as rewarding as other champs