Talk:Olaf/@comment-7620198-20131127013407

What do you start on top Olaf? Items, masteries, skills. How do they vary with matchups? I haven't seen any good guides for post-rework lane Olaf yet.

I assume dorans shield + pot for a general start, going EQW first three then  R>E>Q>W. Offense and Defense trees both have a lot good for him but I don't know which you'd take in a game since I've not tried them. If I went 21/9/0 I'd get the spell/blade weaving points, % arpen... pretty much everything on the left side (with executioner). 9/21/0? I'm lost. Everything down low in defense seems too good and I hit 21 before I even reach the end of the tree.