Talk:Katarina/@comment-4919681-20150701101740/@comment-8969250-20150704061622

You got no idea, Riven is THE ultimate hard counter to Kata, you throw Q at her? Shield, 0 dmg. You try to E on her or even come close enough to use W on her? Good, now youre in her range and she goes ham on you.Katas early game QEW deals about 20% of Rivens HP bar or even less, and if she jumps on you she can deal easily 40-50% of your HP or 100 - 0 you if she has ignite and you burned E to gap close.

You cant win any trade vs Riven unless she is completely bronze and she is MUCH better at farming, how is that not a hard counter? She can even negate your ult with TWO abilities ffs!