Talk:Graves/@comment-4296199-20131015222551/@comment-8267817-20131017164645

Not as much as what you would think, he has a dash that resets with his auto attacks, which if he doesn't auto attack his opponent every time they try to grab CS or is getting his own CS with those auto attacks, he is doing it wrong. His passive makes him deceptively tanky, and while you chase him back to his turret he gets easy full damage buckshots, his smokescreen can slow the jungler that is ganking him and effectively blind them so they can't kill him.

Especially if you build as a bruiser, you are going to be sturdy enough to survive lane fairly easy assuming you aren't against someone like Riven or Nasus, it is a pretty solid counter pick to a lot of top laners.