Talk:Udyr/@comment-188.195.199.115-20111218203426/@comment-3477331-20111224165407

Both profit from each other. Tiger profits from Phoenix AD buff, Phoenix profits from Tigers AS buff. In Order to get the most damage out of udyr, you want to switch between Tiger and Phoenix, making sure you get 3 hits in Phoenix done. Tiger and Phoenix dmg is about the same, phoenix is probably a little bit higher. (including the flame waves of phoenix) For jungling Phoenix is a lot better as it grants AoE dmg. And since a part of the AoE is applies on the 3rd hit, AS works best with it. Since it's magic dmg and jungle monsters don't have any MR you don't need Magic pen. If you're laning with udyr you won't get 3 hits on the enemy for usual, so Tiger is better. In lane you want to lvl Turtle and Tiger depending on what you need and get bear on lvl 2,3 or 4 for ganks (either for escaping a gank or helping your jungle perform the gank).