Talk:Alistar/@comment-26128186-20160210022415/@comment-26203093-20160305072139

Forgive me if I ignore self-proclaimed authority - They nerfed it for good reason. It's not the AP ratio, so hearing it sucks from somebody who plays him AP is about as convincing as hearing riven sucks from somebody building mana.

Compare it to the other heals - get the numbers out in whatever hypothetical you want. It's up there with soraka until she gets a fair bit of AP. Partially due to it not costing alistair health. 180 + (90 * 4) health every 16 seconds. used to be every 12. Increased by 10% via windspeaker is pretty good with such a high flat amount. Applying 12-22 armour and 5-12(?) mr to every target on top of that. Again, pretty good. This was the sort of shit that got the aegis nerfed in the first place. The fact that it's aoe is even better when including ardent censer.

That thing's value totals 6400 gold when applied to all allies.

Using the previous 12 second CD as the basis: CDR talent puts the CD down to 6.6 seconds. Every 3 lane minions equals a heal. There's six. By the time the next wave is there you've healed again, if not twice before then. 3 times per wave.

that's 1782 health per wave if we're going for 3 heals and not 4. And that's not including any AP. Not to mention self heal masteries, or spirit's visage.

If you want to compare that to soraka, she'd have healed herself to death by that point.

In a siege comp it equates to not getting anywhere. Especially when the second you engage, he headbutts you away.