Talk:Talon/@comment-24486730-20141203012849/@comment-25806801-20141203175935

first of all talon doesn't need improved damage, the damage was never the issue...

now why would you q before you e when you could e-auto-q? the thing is when you do this combo or just plain q e, any smart oponent can just cc you at this point and trade back or just blink/dash away and kite you back. im not saying its unfair or anything but it sure makes it hell to lane against certain champions (fizz is the one i hate the most).

Also talon's passive just sucks, it doesn't buff anything else than the auto-attack part which means unless you are going crit talon its pretty useless. The thing that really made me angry about the nerf is that what he "got in return" was pretty useless, i now find myself having to ulti as soon as possible before people have the chance to trade back

as far as building goes thats up to each player, but i think max pen is the most effective way, and i just dont like botrk on talon because i dont think he should be autoattacking that much