Talk:Talon/@comment-27386364-20160417011155/@comment-26227836-20160425101630

This is more of a Laning comment than a Talon comment.

Waveclear is lane dominance.

The faster you shove waves, the more minions the opponent loses under tower.

The faster you push, the more you punish your opponent's mana.

The faster you clear, the fewer your minions die to their minions, letting you pressure your opponent if they leave lane to recall, get blue buff, or roam.

You usually max the spell that can reliably hit your opponet, at the highest frequency. Q fits under both these parameters BUT Q is an auto attack so you need to get in range to land it.

It's 4 second cd isn't really 4 seconds if you don't use it everytime it's up. If you wait 3 extra seconds, it's 'cooldown' becomes 7 seconds.

I'm not sure how you use your Q in lane but the only way I can land it is if it's coupled with E. In that case, Q's mana cost is increased by E's mana cost because it's almost always used in tandem. Not only that but Q's cooldown would also be increased to E's cooldown. So with my playstyle, Q max is unappealing because W has a lower cd AND mana cost.

Now this is specifically for the laning phase so there would be some instances where Q max would do better in roams or skirmishes. Like Varcius says, if it works for you, keep doing it.