Talk:Garen the Night of Demacia/@comment-190.50.214.189-20111008012458/@comment-112.200.106.42-20111011140402

Against organized teams, there's always someone supporting the carries. Garen needs to flash into carries to get close. The support can then stun/snare/other CC you for a bit. The carry retreats a little. After your Q wears off due to the CC, you're pretty much a sitting duck.

Also, full builds are usually awesome in theory. A hard carry with full build will rip through your garen with relative ease too.