Talk:Irelia/@comment-122.0.28.190-20101122022208

How can anyone fail with Irelia... Anyone calling her UP must have their head stuck in the ground... Her 6300 points is worth every bit...

Main reasons I see her fail cause of noobs: 1) Going to forest in the start )Phreak is an idiot, only an idiot would follow his neutral minion guide). With her laning capabilities, which idiot would want to start off in the forest... 2) Mixing AP in her item build. This totally reduces her survivability during group battles as she will lack the AD + Life Steal to stay alive. 3) Diving into battles thinking that she is invincible with her Hiten Style Life Gain & Tran Blade Life Gain. Her damage burst is not instant and takes a few seconds to kill unlike some other champs.

No idea why I don't see people going armor pen with her. With armor pen runes + Brutalizer + Whisper, she will be doing full dmg + Hiten's true damage which is easily 200 dmg per hit around lvl 10. I also rarely see anyone get Manamune for her. Tears gets charged up fast from Surge spamming and she will get that 50 dmg easily from Manamune early on, which in turn lets her spam all her skills with no worries for mana. Yes, Locket is nice to keep her alive, but it gives her no damage and why would anyone do that to a melee dps... An interesting built is to go Life Steal + Spirit Visage which actually turns out quite well.