Talk:Riven/@comment-33172118-20171015150924/@comment-33172118-20171022212111

@Paper

I do know she's bad vs Pant, but Reneketon? I cant see Renekton win vs Riven at all. Checking the stats there's a near perfect equilibrium vs Renek(49,9% winrate, favoring renek).

Then again I can't say she isn't item dependent, meaning she can get shut down to some extent. That doesn't change the fact she's amongst the most objectively tier 1 champions the game has to offer. In the hands of a good player, and not having half your team resolve around countering her, she's just going to wreck the place with her "I can do it all"-kit.