Talk:Shyvana/@comment-39.47.182.199-20120506065841/@comment-4942796-20120511122919

Not overpowered at all. I played against her top as Riven, pretty much harassed her and got a double kill off of her and jungle Olaf. Game ended with me promising not to kill Shyvana if she didn't bother me. Of course, her burnout tickled a little but I went after everyone but her.

Note: The game was personable. We won but it was fun. I always made the joke "Do not want!" whenever Olaf and Shyv came after me. So when I was chasing Shyv the one time (and escaped) she said "DO NOT WANT!!!" and I replied stating "You only needed to say so lol" so we then made a truce that I wouldn't pick on her (she fed me). But yeah moral of the story she's not that tough.

Jungle shyv on the other hand is just annoying, including when she becomes a dragon and tries to actually kill you. Either counter jungle or get wards, it's really not that hard. In team fights, she already had the nerf to her armor and magic res. Invest in magic/armor pen or build off tanky. Really, I don't know what's so hard. I mean, unless she's fed (like any champion) she'll be scary. Just don't feed, communicate with your team, have map awareness, and THINK. Use common sense, it's not that hard to counter people if you know how to. People still complain about Fiora, but has anyone actually tried using thornmail? Most cases no, and thornmail usually shuts her down.