Talk:Talon/@comment-25325968-20150505224502/@comment-8969250-20150511154520

Talon is great but he wont be seing any tournament play because after the kill he stays in the fray and dies.

Kata wont be seeing any either because her ultimate has too much completely obvious counterplay.

Neither of these champions are as toxic as Vayne who hard counters all tanks and melee assassins (in addition to hard countering all adcs and supports of course). She is a better assassin than actual assassins.