Talk:Shen/@comment-24198515-20160921123951/@comment-26203093-20160922022905

" Ever heard of supports roaming?" Is not the same as reactively ulting to help another lane. You roam when it's convenient for botlane. You teleport when someone's in need. What exactly do you think's going to happen to your adc if you teleport as soon as some one needs it? You think he'll be able to free farm? Do you actually not understand there's TIMINGS for when to roam?

but you'd just rather point to pro play as compensation for actual understanding, I guess. Pro players have also died in the jungle, and died 3vDrake. During matches. So let me make it clear: I don't accept it as an argument.

The actual reason he worked at bot in any capacity is because he doesn't need a lot of items to do what he does because of his Q. He doesn't need items for it. His ability to protect is low, lockdown pretty much terrible, but his damage as a fighter - his actual strength - remains high even as he builds tank, or even nothing at all. And now that just got nerfed.

Which is basically why trundle became a support. Sure, his ice pillar is way better, but he basically doesn't need items to be relevant, so he's hard to make irrelevant.