Talk:VPBE/@comment-24385282-20160225215630/@comment-24385282-20160227003149

@Empty: Didn't we just go over this? The fact of the matter is I'll always support viable, balanced, fun aspects of League even if it's just a playstyle or build that transforms a next-to-useless ability into a crazy burst tool, and you will never want these to even be viable because it means that the champion has next-to-useless abilities in their kit given the meta playstyle and build. I didn't say anything when you trashtalked AP.

Gimmicky or not, it's fun and fair, and neither AD and AP are overpowered, so I don't see the issue. After all, the ability in question is a huge part of AD J4's kit (though it relies on as well, it's his only hard CC and only non-ultimate mobility); it's not like it's an ability that is only useful for AP J4. is a big part of J4's kit no matter how he's played or built.

@Will: If Jarvan's E scaled with AD, he'd recieve nerfs to make up for the unnecessary increase in power and the very fun but less viable AP J4 would die out. Making fun things go extinct, gimmicky or not, is the opposite of fun. Riot tried to do what you're suggesting to, and that's exactly what happened. Xin got OP for no reason, they had to nerf him down, and consequentially ended up over-nerfing a fun and balanced (or balanceable) playstyle just to give the meta Xin build a watered-down, boring version of what made AP Xin so fun.