Talk:Ziggs/@comment-5224716-20140724223225

Wait, am I missing something or did they only nerf the width of his Q and his base movement speed? Or did they nerf him more?

If that's the only nerfs he gets, I'm fine with it. I really enjoy playing him and I don't think he's that OP. Sure, he has an incredible weave clear and siege, but Ziggs is really fragile outside of sieges, if you catch him with his W on cooldown (26s with 0% CDR at rank 1, and you usually max it last), he's toasted. He's good at poking and kiting but if you all in him and burst him it should be easy.

And yeah, you can't just pick an assasin against him because a good Ziggs will just farm under his turret (you shouldn't run out of mana if your jungler gives you blue). If you really want to "counter" him pick another mage with long range. Xerath, Lux, you know, these peeps.

Also he's mana hungry the entire game (if you're sieging of course), especially early (before he gets blue, if your jungler is kind enough...), he can't just waveclear everything with Q, he has to get in AA range so you can use it.