Talk:Gnar/@comment-3578129-20140730134015/@comment-4888212-20140731145116

if you take those stats together, sure.

but getting bursted down by a riven/renekton before you can transform isnt gonna help you much when you are stuck in "half a normal champions health" mode.

same with when you go into "tank mode" and just get kited by ranged chars. its basically a chartransform you have no power over. which sucks ALOT.

to balance that out, you need better stats, ergo buffs, as smart opponents will do the following:

ranged on toplane: keep harrassing you and keep u in fight similar to a garen (passive!). when you transform, go ham on you since you are now slow and melee. GG lane over, go back to fountain.

melee on toplane: place somewhere where they can zone you and prevent you from getting fury. hardcore rampage into you (possibly with flash etc) when you have nothing behind you to jump / bounce to and burst your 500hp ass down like nothing. dead. back to fountain, try again.

i dont see gnar working much as a firstpick in toplane. his problem is simply that he can be countered too easily by an opponent who knows what he is doing.