Talk:Malphite/@comment-4636093-20150321001720/@comment-5211662-20150328100734

I don't believe that Malphite can win against Swain. Swain has too much sustained damage for Malphite, and he can constantly harass him. Sure, Malphite can eat the first E thanks to his passive, but a smart Swain will keep Malphite's passive down using auto-attacks, and will continue to harass him. Yes, Malphite has comparable poke to Swain, but he will go oom and lose the poke war; also, with the proper runes, Swain can shrug off Malphite's poke. The only way that Malphite can win the lane phase is by pushing, and that will leave him open to ganks. As Malphite has no way to escape, this will be his downfall.

Malphite can rush magic resist and become difficult for Swain to kill, but that means that he is not purchasing armor, therefore he will be weaker and will not be building against the enemy ADC.

So I believe that Swain is a counter to Malphite, he may not be a hard counter but he destroys Malphite's effectiveness during early-mid game.