Talk:Riven/@comment-24090792-20131222044754/@comment-24090792-20131224060903

Kahvin Minisaurus :

first - mages top is a bad idea since a very slight advantage over them is more than enough to shut them down and feed on them since they got the worst comeback probability, ability scalings,  ability cd and countered the hardest by just 1 item which is a hexdrinker or even a negatron cloak if the mage got even less scalings and longer cd ( some mages have .4 on some of their skills leaving you with just 1 skill effectivly to fight with since the other is a utility like vlad ) let alone the scaling mresist each level on melee characters.

second - riven is a fighter/assassin so its natural for her to have that kind of early damage like jax ( dont say that his q+w or q+w+e doesnt hurt early game ) only her shield was the problem so the nerfs to it are welcomed although i think it should not scale on ad and be flat like j4 or scale on ap rather than rducing its duration but to cut her damage is to remove her from the fighter/assassin genre ... look at wukong he is labeled as a fighter/tank but for real he is a fighter/tank/assassin as his damage output with q+w+e is higher than riven considering  the armor shred and attack speed and topped off with natural tankiness and damaging stealth so THAT is broken dispite his ulti ofc.

so please people stop QQing about jax and riven cuz you just cant walk on their faces and kill them easily with your fancy assassin or adc and spend more time understanding hero roles