Talk:Mordekaiser/@comment-43333802-20190730141825

so what i have seen  so far from this champ is that he is not a juggernaut, he is not a tank, he is a melee "carry".

the reason i say this is because he still has scalings, he has good base damage yes, but u need to proceed buying damage otherwise u fall off instantly, for example playing a real juggernaut like aatrox/garen/darius/illaoi you can just go ahead and build a ninja tabi and some armor and you would still be able to 1v1 most melee carries like riven etc.

but once u get tanky with morde, he becomes useless, which leads to my idea of mordekaiser being a mid game champion.

his early game is really depending on the matchup, champs like renekton, fiora, maybe even jax/camille can trade vs him fairly well, also he is still be able to abused by champs like neeko kennen jayce as long you dodge his E.

his penetration part with his E that gives him MR pen, makes him to a carry in my eyes, if you play a tank or a juggernaut against mordekaiser you will notice that your chance of beating him drops by game lenght even if you build MR/HP he will just run you over and if you get damgae he simply outdamages you.

so i wouldnt call him a juggernaut but more of a immobile ap meele carry fighter thing (to an extend like rumble but not really because once you get MR against rumble its fairly decent to call him an early game abuser rather than a carry)