Talk:VPBE/@comment-28018860-20160630083945/@comment-26186030-20160630220519

there's plenty of abilities that just save that many loosing teamfights. Have you heard of Bard Ult? What about Taric's? Heard of Darius "kill secure" dunks that get him to have max stacks of the passive? The list goes on and on, and it's not like it's instant cast, it has a channel- meaning it can be interrupted. Tons of ultis just save teamfights so hard that it's hard to argue for nerfing Ryze because hsi does too.