Talk:Jarvan IV/@comment-190.253.23.44-20120603195334/@comment-4917717-20120606032528

Lee is a support jungler. I know it's hard to fathom, but making a lot of kills happen early doesn't necessarily lead to you carrying later. The reason it's harder to do well in lower elo/norms with Lee is because he is supportive when the action that matters happens. On a team that you can trust Lee with usually be the better pick because he fills the role of jungler better(as junglers are a strange type of support imo) and is more streamlined when it comes to design. Lee can do many things, but he only does a few of them very well. Jarvan can do many things, but he only does them decently(outside of initiation, which other junglers do better).