Talk:Vi/@comment-9705522-20131026142011/@comment-9705522-20131026201708

that change, right. well, i havent seen it yet. also, no. that counterplay works for both (though undeniably better for nocturne), but nocturne also has more counterplay. escaping. also, here is the thing. cc. most cc that teams have is aoe cc. how many champions, that are played a lot, have single target cc? renekton, but other than that, noone really. so you would lose a huge aoe ult to stop vi. also, you have to time it well. she only needs 0.6 seconds to burst an adc with a good defensive item to about 800 health, and slowed down. also, i hate to break it to you, but the only thing mikaels crucible will do in that situation is heal a little. maybe remove the slow. also, taking soraka? welp, your team just lost an aoe cc ult. in other words, you will be at a disadvantage.