Talk:Riven/@comment-34500835-20180128141539

The only champion whose name is not 'Tahm Kench' that I have ever had a cheese match against, as a Kled, that I actually had a chance of losing at level 2.

Even though I admire a champion for that, since it makes for a good match, I have to ask if does anybody honestly think she's a balanced champion?

Because even though people like Darius can cheese level 1 or Yasuo who has infinite dashes has a high skill floor, they make it up for either falling off or being REALLY hard to play. And the last time I fought an actually good Riven as Kled, she 1v4'd my entire team while knocking me off Skarrl without me expecting it for the first time after picking up Kled.

I barely managed to kill her and I spent the next half of the game devoting my time to shut her down and even then she still could oneshot anyone that wasn't me. We even lost because of that kind of one-shot, especially since her ult is an AoE execute.

Since we lost because our adc got caught, I don't think she's OP BROKEN PLS NERF, but that kind of 1v4 cannot be healthy.

I literally made her 0/4 and that 1v4 was the first time I saw her outside of top. Had a black cleaver, nothing else, and cleaned up 3 out of 4 of the fight.

Played her till Mastery 6 with 1 M7 token, and I just dropped her because tbh her combo is pretty braindead after you get used to the animation-cancels lol