Talk:Udyr/@comment-24073465-20131201193839/@comment-5489694-20131202064729

I haven't played a ton recently (~ a week) so I can't really talk about masteries and specific items. I always use MS quints as Phoenix, AS reds are standard but I really like hybrid pen they're super expensive though. As Tiger I use MS or Lifesteal quints with armor pen reds because I pretty much always start doran's blade, idk if I'd use flat ad reds with machete start but they're not bad. Phoenix vs Tiger clear speed is pretty even, Tiger does damage faster than Phoenix during ganks and skirmishes.

Buying mana potions help you not run out of mana.. I usually get 2-3 2nd or 3rd back, you don't need to load up often I generally only buy mana pots once. Mana pool items help a lot, Sheen's a really good item on Udyr regardless of how you're playing him.

Be afraid of Janna, Lulu and champions with strong slows and knockups. Specific lanes that suck are Kennen, Kayle, Teemo, Jayce. Pretty much anything ranged with decent cc. Slows suck more than stuns because they usually last longer and have shorter cd's. Udyr can easily catch someone after being stunned, slows pretty much make you completely useless. I don't know much more about laning because I generally jungle Udyr; I hate laning as him in blind pick (which is pretty much all I play now).