Talk:Udyr/@comment-4219452-20110730005548/@comment-78.97.211.11-20110812075347

I've maxed bear and tiger 1st once, big mistake, you lose so much def from low turtle level and most of the times if you even catch up and stun he will still get away. Now i max tiger and turtle, getting bear at lvl 4 and leaving it that way and concentrating more on ganking with lane-mate than 1vs1. A 220 shield every 4 secs at lvl 11 or so is more useful than 12% more movement speed.