Talk:Maokai/@comment-3450702-20110618133926/@comment-3165723-20110626221834

and don't forget that mao's ult is completely useless if you can't get them to attack you. jumping in with a fiddle ult will make them run away, and if your laning with someone like brand your ult isn't going to be much of a factor since they'll be too disable to put up a good fight to charge your ultimate.