Talk:Graves/SkinsTrivia/@comment-98.109.208.230-20111023172333

Is it just me or, despite Graves despising TF, that they actually have a lot of resemblance. I mean, look at their spells.

Q: Both of them shoot a Cone attack, using 3 of their Ammo. TF uses cards, and his attack is wider, while graves shoots bullets, and his is much narrower. W: This is capable of slowing, and is a magic Area attack that damages everyone in the area. This kinda only applies of TF is using his Red card, but still, its close enough. E: This ability increases both Champions' Attack speeds. TF's is a Passive that only goes up to 15% (And also reduces cooldown), while Graves' is activated, and can go up to 80% attack speed increase.

However, their Passives and their Ults are both way different (Though I suppose you could say that, for their ult, Twisted Fate Activates Destiny, and Graves fires off a giant bullet from his gun, Destiny, but that's pushing it, in my opinion)