Talk:Shen/@comment-173.209.168.28-20120716062347/@comment-5162027-20120718075605

Irelia and Shen both need items for their awesomeness if they are going the bruiser role. Because of that, they need farm. Shen has a comparitively stronger early game than Irelia, but a less damaging late, though of course he can still go split-push like he usually does and remain of great help to his team. If facing Irelia, show your early dominance as much as possible, so she takes as long as possible to get her items and whatnot.

Shen has an Ok early game. Renekton has a "I win against everyone but Riven" early game. IF Renekton knows what he's doing and decides to go the Operation: Ape Shit mode on Shen, Vorpal Blade is not going to be enough to stop the tyrant from walking all over him for the first 5 levels or so. However, once Shen builds some health (Basically anything from Heart of Gold to Giant's Belt), the lane should shift rapidly into Shen's favour.

And ProtonZero is correct. A good counter to Shen, shockingly, is Kennen (harharseewhatIdidthereLAUGHDAMNYOU), because Kennen is mobile enough and has such a great poke that Shen's taunt becomes quite difficult to land.