Talk:Irelia/@comment-94.172.19.195-20111114155452/@comment-66.234.208.72-20111116185939

I find that philo is virtually unnecessary for irelia, full set of mp5 blue or yellow gives u all the mp5 u need, w and r provide sustain.

Philosopher's Stone (800g): 18 HpReg, 8 MpReg Pays back for itself at 26:40 (13:20 if sell) and thats assuming you build philo very early, which means starting with a regrowth pendant in most cases. sure it gives u a lot of hp5, but compared to doran, u are missing out on extra health and armor, and if u are laning against ap then regrowth doesnt come close to the benefit of a null cloak. at the 13 minute mark id have already completed wriggles, (and most likely mercs or basic boots/sheen, along with having some wards set up) which provides all the sustain i need, plus defense, offense, ward and extra pushing power. Philo doesnt help at all with farm, the only conceivable use is for poking and harassing, but that shud not be irelias priority during laning phase because in all honesty her dps is shit without dmg items. Farm, not harass, is the way to win. And no, wriggles does not suck, in fact id say its a great item for many tanky dps in the solo lane, but it is of greater importance for irelia than most, as she is the most susceptible (IMO) of all the tanky dps to denying/harassment.