Talk:Nocturne/@comment-4124337-20120830010904/@comment-178.166.24.118-20120830121335

Coming from a very experienced Nocturne player: Your build sucks bro. :/ You basically mix the recommended items with shit that nobody uses anymore.

I respect the cloth + 5 start if you're not comfortable enough with Boots, but never rush Madreds before getting them. Early Madreds might help you clear the jungle faster than boots + Vamp Scept (and that's even debatable since you take longer to travel between camps), but with every single lane starting with boots there's no way you can pull off a decent gank. Also, Atmogs is yesterday's news ever since the nerf. It might still be useful in a couple of Champions, but definitely not on Nocturne. And you simply ignore GP5 items, which are CORE on ANY jungler in the current gold meta. HoG should be your first item after Wriggles, and it builds into Randuins later anyway. Your build also gives you no proper AS. Your only source of AS is the only slot which shouldn't have AS: the 'Zerkers. You always build Tabi or Merc. Threads on Nocturne, unless your team is ridiculously ahead and it's just for the lulz. You want AS then take Wit's End, it also gives you MR. Finally, you have 0 sticking power should you fail to follow up on a flash or dash/blink. Phage/FM is the most badass item on Noc.

Full build route: Boots, Vamp. Scept/Madreds into Wriggles, HoG, Phage, finish defensive boots, Wit's End, Phage into FM, finish Randuins, situational item (BV/MoM against Magic dmg oriented teams; Aegis should your team lack one for any reason; FH/Sunfire against Physical dmg oriented teams; GA for mixed resistances...). Finally you can replace Wriggles for BT or even MBR if the game even lasts that long (usually doesn't). Try this out and get back to me. I promise you'll see huge improvements in your gameplay.