Talk:Udyr/@comment-24339553-20150323063813

I still prefer going devourer, merc treads, and SFC while phoenix jungling. That core gives solid hp, resistances, tenacity, and damage. Not too much of a fan of cinderhulk while phoenix jungling, devourer lets you get better clears and stronger ganks. I run 21 into defense masteries as well so I do have some base tankiness in the start so I feel I can skip cinderhulk at first. Also I prefer SFC's base fire aoe over cinderhulk's ramp up fire aoe on Udyr since a simple phoenix activation and devourer clears a jungle camp fast.

Not saying cinderhulk < SFC, just that I think devourer is quite strong on phoenix Udyr since phoenix fires proc more with AS and phoenix naturally clears jungle camps fast to grow the magic on-hit well. Devourer is something I wouldn't want to give up on him. I simply feel cinderhulk works better on pure-tank junglers like Amumu, Maokai, etc. that don't care much for doing lots of AAing and having AS.