Talk:Orianna/@comment-98.118.45.33-20120320211018/@comment-68.98.9.242-20120322024237

^ agreed, 420 total base damage at level 6 (assuming you max q, add 20 if you max w) and that's also assuming nothing is between the ball and it's target when q so it deals max damage. I know all of her abilities are aoe so the bases shouldn't be super high, but compare that to other casters and it's extremely disappointing.

Her passive is cute and helps with auto attack harass but now your in very close range and imo might as well be playing ryze (you'll actually be shorter range than ryze) or better yet cass who has higher ratios, bases (if maxing q), dps, and retains the same if not more utility than ori.

Don't get me wrong, as a character I love her flavor. It's just not rewarding enough to play her in her current state.