Talk:Riven/@comment-79.207.91.239-20120520112222/@comment-70.251.75.60-20120520114303

If you are building wits end on Riven then thats why you're losing. For WW you need to bait him to use his Q on you when you use E + W. WW has one of the worst mana pool in the game after a few swipes he will be dry on mana and you can harass him all day for free. His only sustain after he can't Q will be autoattacking creeps but if he does that the lane will push and he will be a free gank.

No clue on Jarvan, most I see nowadays are in the jungle.