Talk:Vayne/@comment-3165723-20110518142935/@comment-3358335-20110519221338

''^^ No, her didn't state directly, "She is OP"/"She isn't OP". But her did provide counter arguments as to why she she's not that difficult to deal with. I'd say that leans towards her not being OP -.- .''

Which is exactly the point I have been trying to get across. Being "able to deal with" a champion is completely independent of the Champion's Power. Over or under. I did not find release Nocturne difficult to deal with, I did find that his was overstrengthed. Many people found Urgot difficult to deal with before he was buffed. But he was obviously understrengthed if he got buffed.

I use those two examples repeatedly, because they are both widely accepted as true. Release Nocturne was OP, Urgot was UP.

On the complete flip side, I find that her skills and mechanics are very interesting. I would probably enjoy playing her. But I would not enjoy stomping on people in her current form. There are a lot of sneaky tricks that she can pull that I just don't see people fully utilizing yet. And a lot of things I see her doing that I do not understand. (Like taking mid, where there are no walls to use.)