Talk:Garen/@comment-4636093-20120415162311/@comment-142.214.198.45-20120419012917

My mistake, forgot Talon.

... Pantheon... is iffy in that regard. Total glass cannon Pantheon definitely doesn't work, but whether the few defences he'll pick up are considered to make him a bruiser is a matter of opinion.

Caitlyn and Graves are definitely not AD casters. Some elements in them, sure, but being a carry like them certainly makes you not an AD caster.