Talk:Jarvan IV/@comment-4499945-20120731013936/@comment-4948122-20120731165600

I once played against a j4 as darius and killed him easily as you mentioned.

Thing is...as j4 you have an advantage,your E gives you a nice amount of armor,and in combination with another armor item is enough to stop darius's q and w/aa damage by a respectable amount.Your q will pierce his armor and will allow for nice poke(better than his).His W will absorb his passive damage and if you buy mercs it will deny all of it.His E makes j4 good for diminishing the harass of darius,close the gap to him and set up nasty ganks as well as make him deal some hybrid damage and makes you attack faster.

Now while j4 has quite a good kit for toplane and against most bruisers,it wont work that well against darius.If you go all in on him with your ult as well,you will stay waaay too much near him,allowing him to apply 5 hemo stacks,chunk your hp with aa's and spells+ ignite + makes you sacrifice your escape mechanism and makes him easy to land his ult on you.

But thing is,...you can make terryfing ganks in conjunction with your jungler.So just profit from that and make him burn flash early and then proceed to kill him 2-3 times and push your advantage hard on him.

As i mentioned you ahve enough armor so you can afford to go for more hp,you can get warmrog/sunfire/frozen mallet against darius.After this you should get a damage item so you can keep up with him.Maw/Atma/Trynity/whatever that gives damage and something else.Thats pretty much it.Remeber lategame you can cage him with you and he wont be able to dunk all your low healthed allies.Hope it helped