Talk:Garen/@comment-5476695-20131122182341/@comment-4304118-20131126130750

I get both Sunfire and Atma's as my usual armor items, with the old masteries I got around 3.5k health which was more than enough, you want to be above 3k but not sacrifice offensive potential or high resistances to get well into the 4k+ barrier, then %health damage will shred you, specially since you will not be able to kill them before they kill you as you will lack the durability and dmg to do so.