Talk:Jarvan IV/@comment-4499945-20120621022001/@comment-24.69.112.42-20120621103134

Shyvana is an overrated jungler and brings no utility to the team. She does excellent damage in teamfights, but needs someone to lock people down for her to beat on. Shyvana's advantage in clearing time needs to be taken advantage of with an aggressive counter jungling path in order to use her to her potential.

Jarvan on the other hands has utility, damage, support, and mobility. He can make up for any slack the team has and can do whatever he wants in the jungle, gank, farm, or counterjungle. He is a superior duelist to Shyv and can punish counterjunglers he catches servely.

In lane, Jarvan has the advantage with his burst combo. Shyvana lacks a gapcloser and sustain which makes her lose out to many common top laners, and lack utility makes her useless as a support. Jarvan can support and play mid if needed.