Talk:Rammus/@comment-180.194.249.152-20120515103834/@comment-75.80.39.167-20120526095310

I'm going to disagree a little with the other guy. Rammus doesn't need frozen heart at all you just need a few mana runes and expanded mind mastery and you'll be fine on mana after level 6. (my page has 28 flat mana and 26 at level 18) also if you're jungling and have blue buff on you won't need it and even without the runes, you shouldn't need it when the jungling phase is over. The thing about frozen heart is it slows enemy attack speed which in turn makes you do less return damage. Thornmail is much better for him.

spirit visage, aegis of the legion, ninja tabi, and doran shield are items I used to build when I was first starting out but then I noticed they werent doing as much as I wanted. Force of Nature is monumentally better than Spirit Visage, Merc treads are mandatory at all times, Sunfire cape or Guardian Angel can replace aegis, and whether in lane or in jungle (lane rammus is very under rated partially I guess because you can't be aggressive, but instead punish enemy aggression) cloth armor and 5 health potions is the best start.

I personally never get warmog because of the cost and because I prefer to get things with resistances or health AND resistances on rammus, but it's good.

The main thing you want to do is look at the enemy team and build to counter them. and a good rule of thumb is to get things that build out of Negatron Cloak and Chain Vest. Also, gold per 10 items like heart of gold and philosopher's stone are your friend.

as far as skills, I get dbc at lvl 1, powerball at 4, max taunt first, ult at 6/11/16, max dbc second, powerball last. or in jungle dbc at 1 and 3 powerball at 2, and the maxing order is the same.