Talk:Graves/@comment-77.60.135.244-20130108102459/@comment-194.65.37.67-20130108155554

depends on the team config. Graves is more templayer than vayne, his Q and R are AOE. whilst vayne can maje serious combos (tumble + comdem = stun + AA = W proc)       vayne is more mobile and will do more dmg late game, but the early game sucks...

it's up to your stile and counter pick. i recomend graves for erz counterpic (Graves Q com poke erz and have a nice AA range) while vayne is my favorite for most games

ps: shen on mid game vayne = fun! xD every timble is a proc!