Talk:Nidalee/@comment-4221730-20130508053314/@comment-8506165-20130510060533

To be honest it's not just a question of the damage on it, although it is obscene and no matter what Sagee Prime et al. might argue, not balanced (any single ability doing more damage than a vast number of ultimate abilities on a 6 second cooldown is not balanced even if there are counterplay options, before he leaps in to yell at me). It's about how Nidalee players are essentially rewarded for hanging back and taking no risks. She has an incredibly reliable escape in her cougar form, in which I've -failed- to catch her with Nasus and his powerful slow on Wither. So why is she then, on top of that, given a move that not only does ridiculous damage while being spammed from out of most champions' range, but -actively rewards- Nidalee for doing so? No-risk, high-reward? Sounds like a bit of a broken pattern to me.

I mean yeah, theoretically you can reduce the damage on her spear by engaging up close and that's meant to be the counterplay, but try it in any game - she'll cougar away, wait for you to stop chasing and/or reach her turret, and immediately start spamming spears at you again. It's just toxic - Nidalee's rewarded for taking no risk, and anyone who attempts an all-in to shut her down is likely to end up killed for their efforts, and even if they don't the chances of shutting her down are unfairly small, even if you're playing champs with copious amounts of CC.

And this is just in laning, don't even get me started on teamfight time where the idea of running through her entire team to try and stop her chucking spears from the back is utterly ridiculous.