Talk:Shyvana/@comment-202.82.103.23-20120427085031/@comment-69.141.8.150-20120505061541

It's good to have one rank of E early on for clearing large golems, blue and red buff creeps fatser. Also, early armor debuffs on gank targets is an added bonus to a jungler with lukewarm ganking value. But considering that the vast majority of jungling is AAing, maxing Q up before E is wiser since it'll CD faster.

That said, if you're top lane with shyv, max E after W before Q.