Talk:Swain/@comment-3578129-20131011074541/@comment-3578129-20131014145031

Bullshit.

Orianna or lux is not really a counter if you can dodge skillshots (they are kinda slow), what you MUST be able to do if you're gold or higher. Swain's counters are burst mages like fizz, annie or syndra, who can 100-0 you and go away. That is why you MUST use tank runes to survive early game. After you get ROA, chalice and armguard, nothing rly can stop but full focus of enemy team. This means your team can kill them.

Swain's damage is REALLY high, you can use your basic skills and ignite on enemy ad carry to scare it or even kill, and stay inside enemy team damaging all others.

Beside that you can go to the top lane against enemy tank or fighter and farm till mid game like nasus, then come and destroy everything.