Talk:Rengar/@comment-171.6.147.236-20121207081103/@comment-4677525-20121207084203

I can't vouch for Malphite, but Shen hasn't been OP since the last round of nerfs. In fact, the S3 removal of Ionic Spark made split-push Shen at lot harder to implement and pro-players in tourneys have even stopped banning him (hint: Shen is best in an organized team. When organized teams stop banning him, what do you think that means?).

Rengar, on the other hand, has been a huge problem ever since his first round of bugfixes. People said the last round of nerfs were "overnerfs", but if IPL5 was any indication, this simply was not the case. You should probably actually TRY post-nerf Rengar before bitching about the nerfs.