Talk:Kindred/@comment-620927-20150927193538

I'm thinking that it might not be worth it to level ult at 11 and 16, and just keep it rank 1 until 17/18. Only thing that goes down is cooldown and it's underwhelming at all stages of the game - it can save allies but the fact that it fully benefits enemies makes it just not worth it unless you're looking for the extended disengage from a really unfavorable fight or gank. I'd rather be able to E targets more often or deal more damage per Q than forestall both my and my enemy's lifespans.