Talk:Riven/@comment-5160958-20140110223848/@comment-4834593-20140113124544

Lots and lots of calculating and stuff again, and little time, so I'm only going to reply to the points that take one or two lines.

BC vs LW + Bruta: Of course I'm not just leaving that Bruta there. When I have the other five items completed, I either buy a Youmuu's, a Black Cleaver, or I sell the thing and put another Bloodthirster in the slot.

MoM on Riven: BT, Hydra, LW, Boots, GA are, in my opinion, a must on Riven. So it's either a sixth item instead of the aforementioned just sold Brutalizer, or there's no space for it. Or is the 5 "core" (imo) what we disagree about?

And yes, everything Riven does applies BC stacks. But when you're done with Q + autoattack + W + hydra + R second cast on an AD carry (the moment you reach the full stacks and are at 75% of the effectiveness of LW), is that AD carry really still alive? Or the AP carry, if that's the one you focused?

I agree with you that Warmog's isn't good on Riven, but I meant single defensive items in general, be it on Riven, Kha'zix, Talon, Lucian, Quinn, Vayne or whoever I'm playing that wants to deal as much damage as possible. That is why I go for GA every game (if it isn't over before the 25 minute mark). However, your comparision of Spirit Visage with Guardian Angel is flawed, because of a very simple reason. The four second stasis. I have won a game where we didn't have an initiatior because of that stasis. How? By running in first, letting the enemies burn all cooldowns on me (what would you do when a 350 AD or whatever I had Riven would be running into your team?), proccing my GA, and then my team initiated, on an enemy team that had burned half or more of their cooldowns. Because they burned the rest of their cooldowns while I was in stasis, I was able to get out, activate my ult, and go in again and get something like a triple kill. That is simply a hundred times over impossible with Spirit Visage, and the reason I'll always prefer Guardian Angel.