Talk:Kayle/@comment-2124153-20120815024602/@comment-2124153-20120815185319

I used to run Cloth + 5, but the problem is that everyone and their mother starts Boots + 3 now. If you run into a lane with Cloth, the only person you have a prayer of catching is the 0 CS support in bot lane, because everyone else outruns you before you can get into Q range. It's gotten bad enough that I am running 0/21/9 masteries (for Initiator and Swiftness) and MS quints on Amumu, just so that I have a chance to stick a Bandage Toss. I've even had to start getting Boots 5 on some of my tanky guys, the necessity of which makes me throw up in my mouth a little bit.

Madred's is nice on paper against MR-starved beefies, but 3800g is absurd, like you said. That's your only item if you build it on a jungler's salary, it's only 30g cheaper than an IE. You are also effed the moment that someone buys a clue and builds an Aegis. They really need to divorce the %health damage from the rest of that item, it's unaffordable for the people most likely to use it.