Talk:Riven/@comment-2124153-20130207062108

I'm trying to talk myself into a Spirit of the Elder Lizard on jungle Riven.

Two patches in a row now, they've made it more attractive for her. First the 10% CDR for free, and then the final combine price just dropped another 100g. It's getting harder to care about the wasted 7 MP/5 on it. The machete is a sunk cost since you need it for first clear, and thus an addtional 2000g buys you:

So for about 450g more than what it could cost to add a B.F. sword to your inventory, you get the CDR/regen/passives. CDR alone is worth that price, since that's about the same ratio per point as the Ionian Boots upgrade. The trade-off is a delayed Bloodthirster or Brutalizer/TBC (probably the Bloodthirster... Brutalizer is too good). All three items plus defensive gear is tough on a jungler's salary.
 * +50 AD
 * +14 HP/5
 * 10% CDR
 * 25% version of Butcher
 * 15-66 true damage over 3s, on all of Riven's damaging moves, including her autos, Q, W, and the ult's execute.

Worth kicking the can down the road on a 3200g item that gives up to 100 AD and 18% lifesteal when stacked? That's what I'm unsure of. I think that SotEL is sneaky-good now, though. Up to 39% CDR with standards items, masteries and Ionian, or 24% without the boots.