Talk:Kayn/@comment-25855686-20170913094559/@comment-25855686-20170924004450

i agree with your lables but

@yustus

I see your resoning there but dont agree with the last point. i think that there is no scenario where  titanic hydra outperform the other (reasonable, aka no rabadon and such) option in a Rhaast build

Following your label (and i think that are good) let's say i use an adapted build every game but i can summarize in this generic build:

Warrior stalker blade,  The Black Cleaver, Thornmail, Spirit Visage, Dead Man Plate, Ninja Tabi.

the "algorithm" i use is the following

Warrior stalker first no matter what. IF my team is doing fine i go cleaver,  one armor item (thornmail dmp or randuin depending on most fed enemy) and spirit visage, if my team is behind i go defensive first and then cleaver. at this point i have 4 items and boots. this is the only point i can consider buy a tiamat item. Because:

Jungle item is unskippable because obvious, Armor item is unskippable because is mid gameand enemy adc has damage, no matter what, he will have some damage, remains cleaver and visage, comparing cleaver to hydra for me is no match, cleaver win by a landslide, it just give Rhaast everything he want in an offensive item. so spirit visage swap? it may only happen if enemy has full ad team, but if it is the case that mean enemy has massively offensive oriented team, so you are way better with a second armor item.

now we are back at the 6th item scenario, would you buy a titanic here?

1 waveclear is useless (clear what? you will be full build all farm is superflous, plus you clear amazing already)

2 apply one more stack of cleaver? at this point it wont really matter

3 bursting squishy? Buy duskblade if you feel brave ( i hate duskblade on Rhaast but whatever)

4 Being tanky? Buy another defensive item instead

5 half tanky half damage? being jack of all trades and master of none is exactly what a noobtrap is

Also let's not forget that ALL the other options in build cost significantly less than a hydra