Talk:Ryze/@comment-26372283-20150610101756/@comment-5663971-20150610122119

perma QEQEQEQE is only possible when Q and E are maxed or near maxed. Rito's lane buffs are completely and utterly nullified by them. +E damage getting nerfed.

Rito wasn't even thinking about W's usage in lane. 24 friggin seconds. You know what that means? Bait it and let Ryze miss a whole wave waiting for his E! (just use your passive to refresh it!) And use the tons of mana you don't have early? ha!

+Ryze getting balanced around his OP passive means him being absolutely useless without it. Lop off some availability from DAT PASSIVE to give a little more to downtimes.

[Increasing Passive to 6 stacks, PBE Q mana cost and damage changes, normalizing W duration to 1.25 and bringing the W cooldown to 17 to 15 depending on levels would be just enough IMO.(maybe Q range to 950)]

The current iteration in live should already be perfect. You max Q for poke and unreliable DPS, W for all ins and CC, E for melee Lane domination, unreliable burst and waveclear.

Their planned iteration leaves nothing else but Q to max, E second and W last.

THEY DIDN'T EVEN ADDRESS BUILD FLEXIBILITY ISSUES GOD DANG.