Talk:Rengar/@comment-5211662-20140706023002/@comment-5955640-20140706025259

I've never, ever seen this. Vladimir's main form of harass and sustain is a single target and Rengar is hiding in the bush all the time. Rengar's jump is the exact range of Vladimir's Q. The E has ten more range than the bush leap and his ult has a hundred more range.

ontop of that Rengar has more range with his Bola having a 1000 range. 400 more than your Q and 300 less than the ult. Rengar is a much better duelist and chains his combos much faster than Vlad at all phases espescially when Rengar's ult gives him a free win and all he has to do is faceroll his spells on someone meanwhile Vlad has to ult first. No wait he needs four stacks of tides of blood first. He's gotta pool the opponent after ulting them. Or maybe he'll save that for when they run. Then he has to Q them. And hopefully he can Q them as often as possible. With five second though you only get to Q someone once.

So it's ult. Full stack E. Q. One of those two spells if you have the time and then blood pool.

Rengar has already killed you. You could harass him out of lane really early on but if he gets a Hexdrinker you've just lost the game. He has more than enough natural sustain to keep up with Vlad espescially after one life steal item or two if it's Doran's Blade. While it will cost health for Vlad to deal damage with anything but the Q Rengar only gains more damage when he uses his spells at the cost of nothing more than the loss of an easily gained bonus.

So no I don't really think Vladimir is a counter for top lane Rengar. Not that Rengar should be used toplane. He's a pretty unstoppable champ as a jungler right now.