Talk:Shyvana/@comment-5589202-20131011142526/@comment-8506165-20131026110814

Win Nao has very poor CC - one small AoE slow, one single-target knockup, one multi-target point-blank knockback. Bar his ult, his only damaging abilities have a base damage of 225+60%AD physical and a sick 210+60%AP magical. Compare Shyvana's Burnout alone which if it ticks for the full duration is 590 magic damage + 140% bonus AD. Then add in %health magic damage, and frequent Twin Bites and Win Nao just doesn't measure up.

If you're referring to my Leona example... if she has allies that are on the ball and actually proc her passive after each of her abilities (which honestly isn't hard to do) her abilities have an effective base damage of Q-300, W-400, E-360, R-490 at level 18. She has an instant stun, AOE ranged stun/slow and a root. It's rather more than Win Nao's offering, which is why he's so underwhelming played straight tank. But I honestly think Leona is slightly OP, so don't mind me.