Talk:Kayle/@comment-5015210-20160529135743/@comment-25447003-20160607235444

I think this build may be good against some tanks with sustain - Nasus, Trundle, Yorick - Because this S6 the AP items were nerfed and MR items were buffed (e.g. SV and Banshee has +70MR +500HP), they can stay in lane despite Kayle's poke and can even win trades with their sustain (if the Kayle player is not good with mana/cooldown management).

I had some struggle against those, but with BattleOfFervor mastery the AD builds may work well vs them. They tend to build MR but AD/shred build like this can exploit that. And the sustain/durability seems better for long extended fights.

Anyway now Riot just tone down the MR items a bit, and allow AP items to have more Cooldown the AP builds may work well again, not necessarily 20% CDR from runes + masteries any more.

I'm thinking of Trinity Force as new appealing item, as of 6.11 it has +40%AS +20%CDR +0%Crits, which means buff for champs like Irelia and nerf for champs like Yasuo.

The new Athene item seems good for vs strong pokes as well (Pantheon, Yorick, LeBlanc, Xerath, ...).

Do you have some new builds (less depends on Nashor Tooth) that works? Should I ditch the 20%CDR builds to get 2 items which have 20% CDR?