Talk:Ziggs/@comment-28465461-20170301040002/@comment-28977071-20170301200303

Idk, in AvP game/movie there was M-41A that could shoot grenades (linear skill-shot trajectory, that is, not ballistic) :p However, this yordle clearly uses ballistic projectiles, so not literally 'a marksman' indeed.

Anyway, I'm tempted to agree that could truly be treated as  marksman, because his, despite not scaling with AS, scales nicely (indirectly) with CDR. Even if core stats of marksmen are AP and AS, CDR is still also their bread and butter, being present on their crucial items.

The reason why isn't an {{as|AP{{ marksman, is imo because simply it isn't his dominant role. But then again, he officially seems to have no secondary role, hence it doesn't make sense to argue that his marksman qualities just got out-classed by other roles. The reason might be that the mage role itself is vastly dominant over his role as marksman, because his spell range is far more superior and far less risky than abusing the in AA range. At that point you could also ask why {{ci|Lux|icononly=yes}} isn't considered an marksman. Honestly, I've been often trying both these champs as marksmen in recreational games and it wasn't bad at all.