Talk:Vayne/@comment-26571276-20151127200932/@comment-5955640-20151128172359

Vayne is actually in a good spot. Kalista was nerfed but her general design keeps her up. Vayne is still really powerful late game and you are supposed to carry her to that point but she's more an assassin instead of this super powerful end all marksman that outduels everyone with a Blade of the Ruined King.

Lucian was buffed was just nerfed in only his ult with the rest of him being as powerful as ever. He's really strong right now.

On top of that Tristana got her reset mechanic changed, Graves was nerfed despite being really shakey and more just benefitting from people who don't understand Graves' damage potential when he has a lead, and Caitlyn, was buffed because because it actually requires Caitlyn mains are figuring out just how much a caster she is in comparison to the changes.

You are also ignoring the changes to all the other marksmen. Almost all of them benefitted from this update except Vayne and Kalista. The two marksmen who were dominating the pro matches and solo queue and people still pick them so there's nothing really wrong about them being less viable.

For once. In forever almost every marksman is valuable. Vayne being suboptimal is a non issue.

Wait for the assassin update to fix her actual problems.