Talk:Renekton/@comment-2.226.181.120-20121110103728/@comment-4834593-20121111114937

To OP:

Renekton has a bonus from his passive. You just consider it not a bonus, but something he deserves, because you WANT to have the feeling he is bad.

Riven has no more bonus from her autoattacks than he has. He gains more damage on abilities (and also another bonus), she gains bonus damage on autoattacks, but she needs ABILITIES for that. She needs to push the lane and/or harras her enemy in order to gain this on her autoattacks. Renekton will gain fury from last-hitting.

Darius has bonus damage. Same here. Renekton also has bonus damage when he autoattacks enough. It's just transferred in a different way.

Olaf has attack speed. But Olaf is no AD caster, he's a bruiser. A totally different type of champion.

If Pantheon isn't that strong, there is only more reason to give him something for autoattacking. Just like Renekton gets something for autoattacking.

I like how you say "Pantheon has a reason to autaottack, as it procs his passive", then in the line below "Renekton is forced (not a reason, but forced) to autoattack to proc his passive".

Rengar's Ferocity is totally different, as you gain it from abilities, and NOT from autoattacks.

How Riot can think Renekton is fine? They don't, they haven't buffed him yet because they want to do that through the item overhaul, and in that, they'll nerf and buff champions here and there, based on the new items.