Talk:Veigar/@comment-2192210-20120106135710/@comment-4140664-20120109090639

He's an actual gamble, you don't get that farm, you get dominated early because you got no early game, you can't do anything. He'd good in a teamspeak team, cordinate ganks with the jungler and stuff. If you care really good with Veigar, he can carry because his stun is amazing in team fights.