Talk:Fizz/@comment-5151680-20130127061238

It seems like I've missed alot in the last two weeks, so instead of replying to all of the old threads individually, I'll just summarize in a new one.

1) The magic and physical damage portions of Fizz's Q each apply Spellvamp and Lifesteal proprotionally. His W doesn't benefit from spellvamp/rylai's/Liandra's at all.

2) His ideal full build is Sorc/DFG/Lichbane/Deathcap/Zhoynas and either abbysal or void staff. Rylai's is ok on him, but because his W doesn't apply it, and his E/R already have slows, there are definetly better items. GA is great on him if you need a defensive item.

3) Only max your E first if you know you will get blue buff constantly, ie your shyv/mundo don't need it and give it to you asap.

If your jungler is mana-intensive and needs the first 1-2 blues, then always always always max W first. You will get 1-2 basic attacks off during your poke rotation, so a maxxed W will always result in more damage.

Under NO circumstances ever should you be maxing your Q first. It is just at waste to max when maxing W will always result in more damage, less mana spent and easier last hitting.

4) To all the QQ-ers, Fizz's hard counters include Ryze/Annie/Heimer/Akali and a well-played Zyra. Other honorable mentions include Lux, Morgana and Veigar.