Talk:Graves/@comment-24.242.193.234-20111107224353/@comment-140.126.123.103-20111110052036

Buckshot (moar liek, fuckshot, amirite?) makes him a bit op early game, it's naturally too good of a farm spell, and with that charge, a great harass / ganker as well. The biggest problem with him is that he has too strong of an early game so he "becomes" the carry too easily. His ultimate is actually more of an initiation ability/group damager. Comparitively, Vayne is a better carry with that HOLY FUCK ULTIMATE THAT MAKES HER A RANGED YI, but her road to getting the gold necessary to become a carry is harder.