Talk:Ryze/@comment-109.152.215.109-20101003163155/@comment-86.151.1.4-20130221225914

absolutely wrong.

q,r,e,q,w,q,q,e,q,w,q

Nobody gets DFG on ryze. It doesn;t work.

If you apply r before the q has it the q gets all the benefits as if you did it later. Also using your ult lowers the cooldown for your q.