Talk:Zilean/@comment-20434720-20140328025912/@comment-24055932-20140331154544

I wouldn't agree here...

The problem with Zilean mid is, that his kill potential is absolutly inexistent after he shot his two q's, especially since Lichbane got that harsh nerf. And as you got two bombs you launch immediatly after each other, your slow technically becomes non relevant for the mid gameplay as well. His scaling on the bombs may be awesome, and the range is fine as well, but as there is a fair time before the detonation, you hardly will ever get it to work as AoE, damaging multiply targets. The thing that Lulu has, is for first her passive, making her Autoattacks really hurt, and second the combination of q and e, allowing for way more utility and possibilities, as you can poke from over 1000 units range with triggering e on a unit first, or instead migitating some of the enemies burst. Lulu has a consistent damage, she has the tools to speed herself up AND slow the enemy down. Lulus ult is as well way easier to land - you just activate it, as it anyways ignores grievous wounds, you safe a champ, get a few knockups and a slow around the affected champ. Zilean has a way harder time to land his ult, as it can easily be outwaited, and it won't help as escape move or even as set up for a kill. The last thing to be said, is that Lulus w can be used to suppress another champ, making channels and all ins way less effective.