Talk:Xin Zhao/@comment-27386364-20160131013628/@comment-26231232-20160131041315

Are you definitly, 110% sure about these? Because I saw him being played on the PBE on Twitch (played by WingsOfDeath, WoD for short) and few of those feel off:

3. Crit strike is definitely not an on-hit effect, sure, but the passive that makes him crit is an on-hit effect. It's kind of like Yi's passive: he strikes twice every 4 attacks, Xin crits every 3 attacks. So, AAing with sated Xin would be something like AA->AA+Sated->CRIT->AA+Sated->CRIT->AA+Sated->CRIT(...), just like sated Yi's passive is AA->AA+Sated->AA+Passive->AA+Sated->AA+Passive->AA+Sated->AA+Passive(...), and this is definitely what I saw on WoD's stream, which is also what he commented. However, there seems to be a bug, or maybe this is an undocumented intentional effect, that he only crits if he keeps AAing the same target, which is something WoD noted as well. Could you test this, please? Make sure you check if he crits when switching targets.

4. I just wanted you to clarify a bit more on this one, since I didn't understand the math very well (excluding on-hit effects here for simplicity). An AA's damage is 100% of your AD. A regular crit is 200%. IE's crits are 250%, which is a 25% increase from a regular crit. Now, Xin crits for 160/170/180/190/200% of his AD with his new W. Since IE increases crit damage by 25%, Xin's crit damage from his W with IE should be 160/170/180/190/200% * 1.25, which is 200/212.5/225/237.5/250%. You said you expected the extra crit damage to be 90/105/120/135/150 (which would be 60/70/80/90/100% *1.5, and I don't know where you got this 1.5 from) which would make him crit for 190% / 205% / 220% / 235% / 250%, right? Instead, you said his extra crit damage seems to be 110/120/130/140/150% (which is simply 60/70/80/90/100% + 50%), which would make him crit for 210/220/230/240/250%. So, my question is: which of these is the actual number in game? It should be my result, because crit damage is multiplicative, not additive. The latter could mean there's a bug in Riot's formula for Xin's W crits. SIDE-NOTE: IE is definitely a viable item on Xin now, I saw WoD do it and the powerspike was MASSIVE. Devourer + Ghostblade + IE = broken.

I wish I had a PBE account... Keep doing God's work and bring us the news, please! Thank you very much for posting this.