Talk:Sivir/@comment-24971427-20180226020928/@comment-4636093-20180426181228

If you're maxing W and they start attacking you then you've maxed the least useful skill to fight them with. And even if they're not attacking you, if they're not standing next to the minions so don't get hit by the bounces then it's not actually doing anything at all. That's the real issue, THEY have to fuck up in order to make it a better choice to max. If they ether attack you or don't get hit by the bounces then it does literally nothing (and I really mean literally).

It might work only in a beyond passive lane you really don't want to fight them in regardless of what you max, i.e: waveclear then walk back to your tower and wait for the next minionwave, clear that then repeat. You still won't be doing anything to them and will end the laning phase 0/0/0 (if you're lucky) with even CS or possibly a lead if they suck at last hitting.