Talk:Taric/@comment-188.81.238.243-20120605233552/@comment-83.60.169.201-20120620211414

Bot lane ranked mainer and I can tell you: Soraka+Graves is quite strong, and quite lame at the same time. It means you won't farm since Graves is gonna use his W super often, he will farm since any poke or harass is negligible with Soraka, and even if you gank him, if you don't focus Soraka, he's likely unkillable. It's strong, but it's boring. Super farmy lane.

And IMO the price for support who doesn't go with Graves goes for Lulu. His pure AD ratios don't mix up well with AP steroids, and she's usually squishy enough to get killed before Graves can kill the enemy. If there's one bad thing about Graves it's his short range and kitability, and with a Lulu as his support, you can completely exploit that and poke him to death. Lulu will shield too late the most times, will anyway deplete her mana, and Graves will just be E+Qing you, which he could do with no shield and wouldn't be much different.

Then again, after Lulu nerfs (Ap build is OP, support is situational as in "My carry is Tristana/MF") you don't see much of her and you don't have to hear the famous I PWN WITH LULU U HVNT SEEN MAH LULU lines that more often than not ended up in a feeding Lulu since you got nothing from her AP buffs...

Long story short, Taric and Graves has great offense, Soraka and Graves has great defence, Lulu and Graves has great lameness.

Then again Taric greatly benefits any aggressive AD carry. His kit is super strong and lends itself to annoy/zone/be in the battle forever.