Talk:Veigar/@comment-97.118.230.204-20111210193112/@comment-74.100.239.121-20111214165046

Veigar mid is still optimal because you NEED the farm and experience. And he actually does have a few very good matchups. He's one of the strongest counterpicks to Morgana and Karthus in the game, because they can't really stop Veigar from farming, and they get DESTROYED by Veigar lategame. Also you can't really stop a good Morgana or Karthus from farming in the first place, so not actively denying them is usually of little consequence.

Also anyone who sends Lux mid against Veigar is a moron and deserves to lose. She's an inferior Morgana that doesn't even scale well lategame and of course gets stomped easily by a farmed Veigar.