Talk:Fiora/@comment-5211662-20170831145832

Thornmail used to be a hard counter to Fiora. You could literally purchase this on any champion and you would destroy Fiora. This was before her rework, because her old ult used to have its damage reflected by Thornmail, so you would reflect insane amounts of damage back to her.

Then after her hework, Thornmal became a garbage item against her. She builds magic resistance and sustain, and completely ignore this item's damage. In addition, Thornmail was pure armor, and would do nothing to protect you against her true damage.

Thornmail is once again a counter to Fiora, but not a hard counter like it used to be. This is because while the Grievous Wounds heavily cripple Fiora, it is not actually an effective item against her otherwise. She doesn't care about this item's damage, and once again, it does not protect from her percentage true damage. At late game she will have enough sustain and true damage to not care about this item or what it does. However, it is amazing to keep her in check during the early game.

Thornmail went from a hard counter, to a laughable item, then a soft counter that falls off late game against Fiora.