Talk:Lulu/@comment-26539937-20170624035047/@comment-28977071-20171016045942

I think this is quite an off-topic, I was just pointing out that the term was a pointless word-play, proving nothing.

There are such things as self-targeted or auto-targeted in the game, with being strongly included in the latter one. One can also find the mention of this categorization by unfolding detailed description on the very abilities.

One could still argue that "auto-targeted" does fall under "non-targeted" rather than "targeted", which is a neither valid nor invalid claim until someone makes up a definition to declare it. If someone did, then for the matter of the topic not all abilities'd be "targeted", hence the author must be either wrong or proposes a weak argument. I actually chose a tenderer option..

The argument is actually as relevant as a question if zero is an amount or if it is not. If you said no, then replace 'amount' with 'number' and ask yourself again. If your answer was once again negative, congratulations, you've just moved few thousand years backwards on the path of evolution. The abstract thinking doesn't spare exceptions, hence the abstract logic naturally dictates to declare zero as being an amount.