Talk:Veigar/@comment-25368309-20150507145455

Making his Q a Skillshot for Counterplay is a nice Idea, but he already has an W to land. He can only land W if hes skilled, the enemy does not avoid it or he hits his stun...which also has "Counterplay" now, and by Counterplay i mean Unreliability.

I won't even post my comment on that, since there are some other champs that could be balanced this way as well. The only thing i don't get is this: If he is unreliable as hell now since he has to hit Q, W and E to deal any Damage, why do they nerf the Ults Damage (or scaling, which in this case is most of its Damage) in the same patch? His ONLY REMAINING reliable ability?? Was there any Reason to this? I mean his Ult bursts like shit one or the other way, its just an "Anti-Quality-of-Life"-Change.

I don't get it.