Talk:Heimerdinger/@comment-79.184.199.218-20121107154507/@comment-87.172.194.65-20121107222714

I can play him, I also get positive stats in every game (just went 12-7-21 out of a 3vs5 we lost and my mates didn't surrender even tough they feeded).

But honestly, his limit is far, far behind of even the least skill requiring champs (like Garen etc.).

His turrets are imobile and die after he does, the dmg is close to none and the rest of his build just sucks. W deals close to none dmg, unless you're in a teamfight without minions or jungle monsters nearby. His E is so damn slow and has a smaller aoe than Cho's Q.

His ratios?? Just beyond everything imaginable... if I'd play kennen only with Q, I guess the dmg would be even better unless my enemy sits next to a one-hit turret and lets it hit them.

Just compare ugly old Heimer to the new sexy Zyra (that btw. is not even considered OP) and you see how forgotten and left behind he is.