Talk:Hecarim/@comment-5112222-20121119201528/@comment-4304118-20121122155041

I really think they want to take away the 4k HP builds by forcing people to get more sustain and defenses, not that I mind but It's a bit hard to itemize it on theorycraft.

I am really liking Zephyr tough, maybe a more agressive build could be.

Sunfire Cape, Iceborn Gaunlet, Swiftness Boots, Zephyr, Spirit Stone Upgrade and Spirit ? Visage, using Arpen Reds it should be ok despite me being addicted to flat AD reds, because the more I think of it, the more difficult is to get the mastery points for Weapon Expertize, Defense benefits Hec's position on a teamfight too much.