Talk:Graves/@comment-25855686-20151108040014/@comment-35229418-20151108114953

^ Exactly.

This is without mentioning that Graves has no CC. Not sure about you, but that's what I want to see from a top laner. Same thing for jungling - I laugh when I see people playing Graves jungle, ganks must be the laner serving him the kill on a silver plate, and his clears suck compared to other clear junglers like Shyvana/Warwick/Udyr. I f you don't have any CC, you should be good counterjungler. I'd like to see a Graves trying to invade a Skarner or an Elise.