Talk:Gragas/@comment-76.98.204.2-20130316004849/@comment-217.191.58.179-20130322231817

he is tanky and has the AS-Debuff,

What hinders him is that A) he has a high skillcap, you need to hit the Q's to harrass and win trades for the adc      B) if you miss your Bodyslam you have nearly no way of getting the enemy Adc away from yours C) botlane it the one with the best escape moves usually (ez flashthingy)

then there is issues with his skill order: you want to be maxing Q for the debuff and the CD, have 1 in Bodylam of course for the cc, then you need your ult whenever possible, which leaves only 1 level in your Drunken rage, meaning you'll be starving for mana very fast

Now this all might sound very negative, i'd advise you to just go test t in a botgame and then a Normal with a friend, gragas support has really good lategame and if you are a good gragas he can become a really strong support too^^