Talk:Garen/@comment-26044269-20150822053412/@comment-24496127-20150822210735

If he builds tank he's only ignorable if you aren't the Villain, and aren't ruined by a silence. Although the silence is weaker so...yay.

Aside from that, out of all the updated champions (aside from maybe skarner who I haven't seen in game yet), he has by the the easiest time getting to people with all the items for movespeed that are popular. Not saying he isn't Kitable, just that it takes a lot for how easiy he can murder people. That doesn't change that he kind of just melts other bruisers at the moment, while having comparable gapclosing to a lot of them.

At the end of the day, he's still Garen, the main thing I disagree with is how the whole villain thing makes fighting him impossible for all but the most extreme kite champions. Even then his ultimate is one of the best executes in the game when it deals true damage, and has a good bit of range to it, so he can cheese in quite a few kills that way.