Talk:Lucian/@comment-25855686-20150524012003/@comment-6334772-20150610021601

You're going to have to give me some context for your math here. You can't just throw numbers at people and expect them to know what they mean. Anyway, Lucian's not strictly a burst adc. He's a mix of both, because he requires autos to keep up his playstyle. THat's why the extra crit and attack speed from PD is so good. It allows him to get MORE burst because it augments a core part of his playstyle. And I never said to rush BotRK, I said to get it as a 6th item, you know, to deal with the insane amount of HP tanks get in the late game? Double lifesteal's always nice on any adc too. IE was nerfed because it gives you such an insane power spike rushing it no matter who you are, since it gives the same amount of AD as a BT while also giving you that increased crit modifier and the crit chance. It didn't matter whether you were burst or DPS, you always rushed it, unless you were one of the five adcs who needed a different build path to synergize with their playstyle (Ezreal, Kog'Maw, Corki, Vayne and Twitch). Graves rushes IE, but so do Trist and Ashe. I'm not saying Black Cleaver's bad, I'm just saying I prefer a different item most of the time. Trinity Force for sieging and more burst and crit, BotRK for more health shred and life steal, another PD for the nearly 100% crit chance. Black Cleaver's good when the enemy's stacking lots of armor and not a lot of HP. But with the advent of Cinderhulk, high amounts of HP is inevitable at the moment, which is why I prefer it. And well, I already have a lot of CDR without it most of the time, so I don't really need feel the need to buy a Black Cleaver. And if I want that rage passive, I'll get furor or a Trinity.