Talk:Zac/@comment-50.134.134.143-20130318030540/@comment-5386529-20130318044318

Zac has huge hp costs even for teamfights and grabbing blobs on other way than "by the way" is just painful, so you must find some place for spellvamp (, or [even if manaregen is somehow wasted])

@50.134.134.143 Tank role will be his primary cause of his high base damage (even if his hp cost is enormus) and his ratio are not-that-awesome to rush ap items... and also to make any use of his passive he must build hp.

@69.141.8.150 as said Rapacious using cloth + 5 pots in S3 jungle is useless. Now it can only work for difficult top matchups, and indeed  manaregen on him is not big waste for him because as I said above you can build this in  one of four high tier spellvamp items but and  are mainly for hybrids so you have limited options in case of searching for spellvamp.