Talk:Udyr/@comment-11258819-20130905095508/@comment-5489694-20130906110841

I haven't done it in forever but it's not something that can be run effectively in standard play from my experiences. I used to play support Udyr and my only successes were w/a friend who would play AD Annie/Brand back when Wriggle's was like the best item in the game and HoG was still around (RIP). It's not all that effective unless there's some form of ranged initiation because you lose pretty much every matchup early when you're against a ranged support. Ranged supports can poke and disengage pretty easily against Udyr because he can't close the gap quick enough to force fights like Leona or Voli can.

If you're playing standard I really don't think you could play Udyr support unless you're against a really inexperienced support player. The only supports you might do well against off the top of my head are Blitz and Taric, Blitz can't pull you because it allows you to start a fight, and Taric is basically Udyr w/a Heal in the support role.

That being said if you go even early and are able to get a D.Shield and maybe Tabi's (or just some armor) you should be able to completely zone your opponent's 1.5v2 while your partner free farms while you spam turtle to soak their harass. If you're ever engaged on (in lane) and you're able to get to their ad or frail support, if you have a point or two in Tiger or even Phoenix I suppose, you have a good chance at killing them outright.

Idk it's sort of doable but Udyr support really shines when there's a ranged stun/snare in the lane. If you don't have that you're basically waiting for your opponent to fight you and even then you're probably 'stuck' w/peeling for your partner because they're probably who's being smacked up. If you're 'stuck' doing that you may as well play Alistar because he does it a lot better than Udyr.

You also need $$$ or you're deadweight the later the game goes. Udyr's not great w/only a sightstone, if you can get Aegis you might be alright but even then your only strength is your stun which is melee, might as well play someone else at that point.

-What I used to do- I'd lvl E, then Q and have my partner stun one of our opponents, then I'd get my stun off and Q/Ignite; generally a kill or we'd end up w/lane control but that was before Barrier was put in. I'd build HoG/Wriggle's but HoG's gone (Sightstone's cool though) and Wriggle's ward is way worse than it used to be, doesn't matter because of Sightstone though. I'd get a Razor (also changed) asap and pressure dragon when it spawned. Idk if you can play him that way anymore since everything has been changed.