Talk:Olaf/@comment-24152282-20131110104938/@comment-5259099-20131112081113

all say he needs to hit Q for good ganks, but if u pick it up, it´s cooldown is ~3sec

olaf got insane cleartime with W+Qspam, with E u can finish monsters of. great sustain and early tanky, with a lot of dmg. late game is all about taking out the carry, ghost/smite is must have.

shaco...well...he is high risk high reward...if you fall behind, you will struggle a lot and only thing you can do is split pushing...his role in late game is pretty bad...assassinate adc is most of the times not possible...peeling for your adc is...in current meta, with a lot of tanks, i would recommend shaco, he was my main s2 with over 40ranked games...