Talk:Udyr/@comment-25855686-20150117184351/@comment-1330314-20150117192427

Tiger Stance is just as essential to Phoenix Udyr as Phoenix Stance, as the attack speed bonus is essential in applying his procs as fast as he can. Start with R, then Q, then E, then W, max R first, then Q, then E, and put your remaining points in W only when you're done with everything else.

+ is good, but you absolutely do not need. Udyr's stun is on a low enough cooldown that you can use it whenever you need to pin down your target, and if you find yourself lacking in sticking power, consider switching it for a (on top of, though honestly I'd recommend  over Wit's End as well). is the best elixir in the game right now, and it will help you duel in high-CC comps, but consider taking for the splitpushing power it gives you. Towards the end of the game, you have some of the safest and most powerful splitpushing tools around, so use that to your full advantage.