Talk:Heimerdinger/@comment-5052127-20120912151425/@comment-5052127-20120912232404

His turrets also have atrocious cast time, his grenade too, but yeah, he's probably a little more likely to land his damage a little more safely and reliably than her at least. though, technically, with capped cd's, she can cast 3 starcalls in 3 seconds... 1st one, then 2nd 1.5 seconds, later, 3rd one after 1.5 seconds more... thats only 3 seconds of staying near enemies... 4.5 total if there is 0.5 second cast time on them.

Heimer also has to get pretty close to hit them with grenade and rocket together in the first place, and then to place a turret close enough to hit them, and then that turret still has to live 3 seconds and decide to hit the enemy in order to even equal her damage from the 3 starcalls and infuse. IF his turret hits for 3 seconds, then grenade+turret+rocket = 3 starcalls+infuse in raw damage (although over a smaller area) BUT... she gets a crapton of mr reduction too... while in that 3 seconds he only gets about 4 mr reduction from his turret.