Talk:Quinn/@comment-87.178.220.11-20130216170014/@comment-24.88.77.124-20130226085618

So after reading the comments.... "Quinn and Valor" seems to be, imo, the appropriate "name" for the champion paring because unlike Tibbers, Valor is constantly there.

-Unlike Orianna/Nunu, Valor is not the weapon she uses for all of her abilities. Quinn only "uses" valor for one actual ability (Heightened Senses active excluded as he actually leaves her position to do this, your arguement of "but Orianna's ball leaves for half her stuff as well, as I stated above that Orianna would have NOTHING without the Ball) whereas Orianna/Nunu would have NO abilities if not for their counterparts. (Nunu would have no AA as well.)

-Sej (and Nunu) must ride their counterpart, along with Sej only using Bristle for Q

-Pix, yes he's there for two spells, but like Orianna, Lulu MUST have Pix for Help, Pix! and he only copies her Glitterlance, Swain is similar as he must have Beatrice for Decrepify and doesn't use her for anything else. Yes, yes, I see it now "Quinn also has to have Valor for Q" but this comes back to the entire kit...

-The ultimate switches Valor to the active champion, as someone else already mentioned, and he does NOT require Quinn for anything while in Tag Team, creating a true swap of champions rather than using something as a focus.

-Also, using that logic should we also say "Gragas and his cask," "Fizz and his trident," etc, with all champions and their "counterparts."

Whoops... took up too much of your reading time, hope someone has the brains to figure out what I've actually said instead of glossing over it and calling me names to make themselves feel better. ^.^