Talk:Gragas/@comment-180.214.232.22-20120731230144/@comment-15562896-20120801070455

You don't even need to max E first if you jungle him as AP. Rank 1 E is now as fast as rank 5 which was the biggest problem if you maxed Q as Jungle Gragas, because E was so easy to dodge if not leveled, and if you don't hit your E you can't gank.