Talk:Elise/@comment-26808509-20180327212539/@comment-15667791-20181113172558

Her Q was toplane cheese, effectively to the same effect that left Lulu getting nerfed to the ground. Same effect completely, where she got free damage from a distance and then could stop enemies in their tracks if they dared approach, rinse and repeat. This is still minorly effective, though more champions nowadays have tools to get around this.

Her human may be setup, but it's important setup. without the initial damage and stun, she's 2 wimpy gapclosers, strong but useless melee attack speed, and a puny assassinate with no damage behind it until HP is lost. Human feels bad because it can't finish, but Spider can't finish without the Human. She may not be a dual battlemode like Jayce, but her kit meshes fine like Nidalee's when you get used to it, in both forms.