Talk:Volibear/@comment-90.228.227.228-20130201230230/@comment-5.83.71.124-20130202222416

My only issue with GA is that it doesn't gives HP, and in order to scale his innate and W, I feel better with HP stacking items. Sure, GA will help you once, but then you'll have to wait 5 mins in order to initiate with Voli, when he's already a good initiator with Q+W (Just good, not optimal like Ali or Cho who are his counters).

And regarding Spirit visage, well, there are also better items that give better HP and MR. Banshee's has better HP, and although -5 less MR, the passive works great for initiating, so it works better for survivality. I only consider it with heavy AD damage around, tho. Personally, I don't think that SV should be considered for Voli in the same sense as it is considered for Mundo. Mundo can exploit it far better, and on the other hand, although the extra healing is nice, Voli can't use his passive as much as Mundo uses his ulti, and his regen is not so great as Mundo's, so the extra regen is not that big neither. Only great point on this item, for Voli ofc, is the CDR.

In both cases, Runic bulwark overshadows both items, due giving Health in the first case, and better HP and MR in the second one. I'm not saying that they are not viable, just not optimal in most cases.

But hey, opinions man.