Talk:Ryze/@comment-8733289-20150620064219/@comment-25904283-20150627234119

I would not say WW is a good pick vs Ryze. WW is ult reliant to even touch Ryze. He normally does not have enough DPS to kill Ryze even with ult up, and he can't push very fast. Same deal with sustain pick like Trundle or even Maokai.

It's kinda Ryze's thing to do well vs melee (even more so after his rework). Your only option is to outright cheese - kill him early to deny his late game. Riven, Irelia, Wukong, Aatrox... can do that, but it's a "kill him or lose lane in the end" game. Currently, no melee top laner (yes, even Irelia or Jax) could outscale this thing.