Talk:Annie/@comment-26251295-20150407212402/@comment-5955640-20150408004108

They said that when it was instant and it was a problem when it was in the hands of a person who knew how to play Veigar (or Veigar Bot oddly enough) now it's a problem because it's hard to hit.

You don't need a Doran's for a play making team stun to win a teamfight. You just need to land that Tibber's ult. A single doran is nothing by the first teamfight.

Also hello everyone else with a team fight winning stun.