Talk:Gragas/@comment-24944427-20140515110112/@comment-24944427-20140516073108

@Raidoton-Senpai: True, there are so many ways to build him, but Gragas' poke is incredibly mediocre when compared to poke champions like Karma & Lulu, who he doesn't do well against. So going glass-cannon with Spellthief, just doesn't seem worth it, especially when his passive scales incredibly well with HP. Making him unkillable in late-game teamfights, if he goes full-tank support.

But what I like best about the Relic Shield line is that after getting that nice chunk of flat HP from FotM and Sightstone, you can then get a Frozen Heart / Gaunlet, for some flat Armour, Mana & CDR and not feel penalized for building an HP-less item. Also those items helps to insure Gragas doesn't run out of mana in a teamfight, making a Talisman also pointless, if you're getting it for the mana regen.