Talk:Riven/@comment-186.15.65.65-20120806180454/@comment-80.15.143.26-20120812162344

the carry-like build you never heard of is :

merc > BT > GA > MoM > LW > situational (BT/randuin/QSS)

i prefer BT because it gives 120 hp per shield and 180 AD on AA fully stacked with ult and passive instead of 100

to be honest people who think  her early is the best part and her late is crap  are retards building her  brutaliser > FM and tank and then going "OMG I DEAL NO DAMAGE "   when her scalings on AD are god-like and she has 5 aoes

i main her and even i think she's broken

when you have 4 games in a row with a champ and go 9/1, 2/4, 10/1, 17/1  :

either you think you're a god at LoL and wonder why CLG and M5  don' ask you to  play for them

or you think the champ is kind of imba

and yes i go double doran > BT  and then this build, usually a BT as last item and trust me :  with 43 % lifesteal  big resists,  500+ ad on ult, 40% armor pen  and a  600-ish hp shield  spammable  you are NOT squishy

the thing is you shouldn't engage, let someone engage then jump in the pack QWQQ R ( don't AA before using all your aoes, only AA in between in a 1v1 to max damage output , here the goal is to hit as many as you can with your aoe burst) and don't be scared to flash to  catch the  carries in your aoes and not waste precious aoe damage

let them burn the CC on the offtank engaging then jump in and get as much damage too as many peeps as you can

it's a win-win build : if they focus you : your ap carry and ad carry are free to damage and you'll revive  with 1500 hp ( dat shield bro) and good lifesteal (note the ultimate does NOT  stop  during GA revive)

if they don't focus you : kill both their carries NP then switch to their  support ( gotta heal with lifesteal =D) then finish the 2 others