Talk:Veigar/@comment-4891013-20120601125659/@comment-89.142.219.145-20120601171640

Athene's or Chalice do delay your early game damage, but when you buy them you hardly ever run out of mana - especially if you get the blue buff. That said - if you do get the blue buff often enough, you can lane perfectly fine without Athene's/Chalice.

I'd go for The Grail only if my jungler really needs blue buff and/or if I have a hard time laning mid (MR helps counter harassment and mana enables you to stun/poke more often).