Talk:Thornmail/@comment-4893919-20120718134451

Last game I wast playing Graves and had over 300ad (full build including defensive items). With about 100mr form base, scaling blue runes and GA, and lifsteal from BT and masteries only, I was still lifestealing more than they returned to me (every 3 ppl on their tem bought thornmail). I felt so good because Randuins + fh would really fuck me up. This item is ridiculously overpriced and overrated on lower levels. My advice - Warden's mail for early, upg into randuins in mid/lategame (as HoG is worth to stay a little longer in eq). Then, one fh in team and you have free 35% ms slow and perma 20% AS slow or active/triggered by them 40% AS slow. This will let you shutdown any carry you can get to, with exhaust you can take him out without getting dmg anyway. DONT BUY IT. IT NEEDS BUFFS.