Talk:Nocturne/@comment-5112222-20130222034556/@comment-217.83.173.182-20130227102156

attacking people without your Q is a bad move - Noc is a jungler and his Q should be up for every gank

in teamfights: you engage with Q or R/Q and don't need the passive unit- collision- ignore; all minions should be dead now due to your Q + passive + AoE's of allies

there are exceptions but the MS buff/ unit- collision- ignore passive are not necassary on Noc; also crit ain't a good stat if you do not have other sources of crit and much base AD (e.g. IE)

you don't get much gold as a jungler and every item should be as usefull as possible for it's price > PD as a 5th or 6th item is ok

this my MY opinion and it is fine if YOU like to build an early PD