Talk:Karthus/@comment-108.28.152.6-20120516214235/@comment-4957501-20120519092200

If you can CC and focus down Veigar in teamfights with proper initiation, Veigar's not a problem. Karthus however has the ability to make sure that even if you initiate perfectly, dive him and burst him down, you won't be getting out alive, or atleast without a decent chunk of your HP missing, in the middle of the enemy team and with your CC on cd.

@OP I fail to see how a 240 damage nuke with a 0.6 scaling, that is usable every 0.76 seconds from masteries and blue buff alone without building and kind of CDR, has a "low damage output". Keep in mind I haven't even mentioned the insane DPS Defile does as well or how much easier your spells are to land/how hard they hit with wall's slow and MR reduction. Oh, and around late game your R alone will hit for a total of 4500-5500+ damage. The only kind of weak associated with Karthus should be squishy-weak, weak damage wise is most definitely the last thing that should be used to describe him. There's a very good reason he's so used in high elo's and tournaments y'know?