Talk:Graves/@comment-220.255.1.146-20130311153051/@comment-7095057-20130312043803

The problem people think with his burst is that hp counters burst. Well duh. That's how you counter champs like Akali and Katarina. You get HP. ADCs aren't meant to take out junglers or other tankier champs with their burst combo. Before they get their big health items (Like levels 6-13) maybe. Graves comess the closest to taking out enemy champs with just his burst alone, which is far more than most can say that other champs. The only other champs possible of that are probably Ezreal, Quinn early game, and Draven. Most other champs get by through autoing the other to death.