Talk:Wukong/@comment-24.57.65.225-20110815021826/@comment-78.147.231.4-20110828172647

wukong is better late game, and both spins have the same ad ratio, apart from wukongs being total ad and garens being bonus ad. wukongs lvl1 ulti is roughly the same damage as garens lvl 2 E(but slightly worse). the lvl 2 ulti is roughly garens lvl 4 spin (but slightly better), and wukongs lvl 3 ulti massively outdamages garens lvl 5 spin. but this is just talking dps, wukongs last 1 second longer, gives a speed boost (which garen probably has from his q) and has a knockup effect, which is the real kicker here. basically what i'm saying is pretty obvious : garen sucks late game and owns early, wukong is amazing late game. although i have not taken cd into effect garens is 9 seconds at lvl 5 and wukongs is 90 seconds lvl 3, meaning garen can farm with his.