Talk:Garen/@comment-4929329-20120601060641/@comment-4929329-20120602163754

I was just pointing out that his dmg is not as bad as people say. Yeah, he has other issues, but I put forth very small arguements at a time. Sure, he may never stick to do that kind of dmg, but he is still capable of doing lots of dmg late game.

I am pretty sure Q can crit because I have seen it do 1.1k dmg :P

a buff of some sort IS needed for poor Garen, and honestly, it is probably why I do not play him. He does not stick!

Rework sounds interesting, because his current one benefits too much from crits and has not even a slow in terms of CC.