Talk:Udyr/@comment-25532677-20150507185011/@comment-4858812-20150523213629

For phoenix you may build tanky with att speed, or with AP and some on-hit effect items like trinity

For tiger build tanky too, but with items with slow and damage like frozen mallet

If you have problems with mana, you may build a tear or a chalice, and upgrade they (tear to manamune for AD and anchangel for AP, Mikael for more MR and its active and Athene for more CDR and the some AP)

If you are jungler, both Stalker or Trailblazer are the best option, and buy Warrior, Cinderhulk or Devourer (Magnus is almost useless in udyr unless you want full AP)

The skill level is phoenix/tiger > turtle > phoenix/tiger > bear > phoenix/tiger

Basically, max you phoenix / tiger first, and them bear or turtle, depending of the enemy team or if you are top or jungler

And if you are in a ranked, NEVER pick udyr if the other team has a lot of escape with short cd, especially blink or jump. athought you may kill someone, you will need a lot of your team for catch up they. Unless you have a Thresh, Blitz, or Bard as support or someone with mega-hard CC, nerver pick udyr againist escape-squad teams