Talk:Riven/@comment-5077844-20141102214444/@comment-5077844-20141109113649

tkae into consideration that only 2 of the champs you mentioned can spam their shields almost endlessly. Shen can't do it if he runs out of energy and if he is on olw energy he will ahve to decide between Q and W. Rumble has a higher CD on his shield and is basically always in danger of overheating and therefor enot being able to fully utilize his kit.

Riven is the only completely manaless champ who also Stacks CDR. And while her shield's scaling isn't that high, it'S (I believe) the only shield in the game to actually scale from AD. Look on champs like Urgot. His shiled scales with AP, even tho he is an AD champ. It gives her free power, because it includes a defensce mechanism in a fully offensive build.

Also, you jsut mentioned champs who just have a shield...only Rumble and maybe Shen can somewhat be compared to Riven for that matter. Shen needs it because he lacks overal  damage, and while I'm not sure why Rumble has it, his lack of innate sustain and the fact that as an AP bruiser he has no real access to sustain through items (please don't tell me you actually build spellvamp on rumble..) Riven can and will go for Lifesteal (I'm not sure how common the HYdra rush is anymore, but it'S still core on her, right?). This means while she has no innate sustain, she can easily get access to it without losing anything, since she build pure offense anyways.

The previous high hp regen just gave her invisible power.

Also, Nidalee's and Gangplank's heals are pretty much outdated mechanics. GP has a very disjointed kit and will eventually be reworked...and Nida is also not one of the best designs. Olaf is based on his sustain, defined by it. YOrick will get a rework, Irelia is also based aorund being able to sustain in lane, due to her lack of damage mitigation or escapes.

Riven does have a lot of free escapes, strong dueling and the ability to purchase lifesteal items without slowing down in her build. The only thing her E does is amplify her ability to not get outtraded, especially when she gets the slightest of leads.

I'm positive that the preseason changes to base stats and scalings will hit her in the right places tho. I'M even convinced that her base stats will need a bigger increase if she wants to survive toplane. Her E however, is and will still be incredibly unfair in any matchup (unless the Riven is unexperienced), which is why I'm so determined to change it.