Talk:Ardent Censer/@comment-5593561-20140607111358/@comment-5955640-20140608224653

I don't know what to do for you then. Getting the job done and not losing my lane or in fact winning it is all the satisfcation I need.

Again. The obersvation of the item works and how it defines a role is based on the most bluntest perception. Having said this. Heimerdinger and Nidalee both have the support tag so it's sort of meaningless debate. And they aren't the most supportive champ you can play in this game. But of course the definition of the word support or the principle of supporting is put into question but that's a lot more abtract which is a way to have a structured conversation on a solid subject matter.

I like this season so far. It always feels like the really older players are sort of curmudgeony with the gameplay states but I don't know. If I had your complaints I would have stopped playing. Dota 2 offers a stronger game play enviroment, even the bots are tougher.