Talk:Ryze/@comment-68.81.96.110-20121112060241/@comment-5002283-20121112171729

They both stack linear, having a lot of 1 of them does not increase the effectiveness of the other.

And mana items generally give defences (hp,ar,mr). That being said, nobody claims that buying ap items is a waste.

Also mana+ap items work very nicely (RoD,AAS)