Talk:Hecarim/@comment-5112222-20121119201528/@comment-67.53.53.210-20121120044307

Did you just pick out every item that has MS? His passive is a nice bonus, but shouldn't entirely determine his item build. Especially because you have so much AS, which he barely uses -.-

Try something more like this:

1: Boots of swiftness - Captain: Hec gets a fair amount of MS from just swiftness (prob. the best s3 boots on him, given you can get tenacity from spirit of the ancient golem) ghost, and of course shurelya's active. This amount of MS gives diminishing returns, meaning you get about 6% instead of the full 12%. Meanwhile, you're always in front of your team with your pro MS and are the primary initiator/close up tanker, so why not help initiate and chase with captain? Someone should get it, because 8% MS on 4 people and 25% on minions is OP, and you're the best horse for the job.

2: Shurelia's - The gold from philo will help you out (junglers are still hungry for gold, even if new jungle helps a bit, it's not nearly enough) and the active is really helpful. Add that to its CDR passive and regen stats helping a ton early and you have a solid item.

3: Frozen Fist - I won't buy TF just for 8% MS (nice, but diminishing returns on MS means hec doesn't get too much from this stat) 300 health (60 armor is better anyway) and 30 AD, 30% AS and 10% crit (15% CDR is almost a better offensive stat, given how little the crit and AS matters, and you can get 30 AD for the difference in costs between the two items).

Meanwhile FF has better procs and slows, YES PLEASE.

Also, you can rush this after your GP 10.

Machete -> Philo -> Tier 2 boots -> GS -> Sheen -> FF

4: Spirit Visage - This caps your CDR, gives you 50 MR (solid) and boosts your W by an absurd amount. It's pretty much a better MR item than Runic bulwark for much less gold. Let your top laner or support get aegis -> bulwark, jungler is gold starved enough as it is.

5: Spirit of Ancient Golem - You might as well, it gives you solid HP and Armor, a source of tenacity, and hey, the extra damage against minions always helps.

6: Whatever you want. An early sightstone lets you ward lanes and protect your jungle, Last Whisper boosts your damage by a large amount, You can get that runic bulwark here I guess and guardian angel makes you an unkillable horse of DOOM!