Talk:Irelia/@comment-197.87.129.152-20130113203204/@comment-4659726-20130116073353

Although..even if those are viable top it still doesn't make it a really fair fight in soloqueue for the role in general. Nor do I think it is good balance if you shut out more than half the role because of the "new meta". As a note, it seems to work best in Soloqueue ranked play still needs mages but that is because they are very coordinated and utility means a lot more to them than it means to your average player.

Having assassins/bruisers out class mages mid is a very sad turn of events considering that those champions were already viable top and sometimes jungle. Having them be better than mage mid in soloqueue just feels bad. Sure some like vlad, morde, and swain are viable top. But what do you do about Anivia, Orianna, Zyra, Annie, Veigar, Brand, and so on?

The only real AP's who I think have it made in S3 are the tanky types such as Cho gath and elise. Or Ryze (mana carry).