Talk:Riven/@comment-184.163.229.118-20120524180146/@comment-4990650-20120525015239

Ramus are free farm for Riven. You dont alway have to win the land sometime you just have to outfarm them if your scale is better.

Landing phase's Malp's AR isnt that much diffrent from others (about 15 higher at most). His AS slow doesnt work on Riven, his shield CD is longer than Riven's poke's CD, Riven has higher HP5. Who counter who? And even if Riven isnt doing well ( because AR is still AR anyway)again she just need to outfarm Malp.

To counter Riven pick some1 who has every thing below:

CCs : cc counters everything.

High mobility or high early damage : to keep up with her quickly free damage style

Higher sustain :Riven has 0 inbuilt sustain. Never skip you enemy's weakness..

Not an auto attacker : Riven has 2 CCs herself you wont beable to attack much.

Not a skill shot based : Riven has high mobility.

That limited choice to Renekon, Garen, Olaf,Shen.