Talk:Kayle/@comment-38627216-20190307040605/@comment-38724939-20190308085530

It always had been better to start E on Kayle, both pre and post rework. If you are farming with Q first then it is your own fault. That is for top and mid farming

As jungle, she has amazing clear (one of the best for jungles that early) As of her passive level 6.

Her W builds ap and movement speed, so if it healed a normal support heal amount plus the movement speed, she would be even more op than now. There is a reason that her heal is much lower than it was, because it now heals herself and an ally, rather than just one or the other.

If you have a problem with playing reworked Kayle, just don't play her. It isn't her, it is more than likely you