Talk:Katarina/@comment-37126274-20181007140022/@comment-26808509-20181015153621

TAGDavid the problem is that all the delays keep Katarina from doing her job past 20 minutes. Her Daggers need 1,25 seconds to drop, that's a whole lot of time in the late game. During this time an ADC can AA you 2 to 3 times with high damage crits (which would equal 1200 to 1800 damage pre medigation), cast any form of CC on you or dash/flash/blink away. That's also 1,25 seconds in which she can't E again, because she most likely started her combo with E and needs to wait for the Dagger. The only form of "instant" burst that she has is the first E, Q and Gunblade and that's not enough to kill an ADC in late game.

Counterplay is important, I agree with you. But Katarina has arguable the most counterplay out of any assassins build into her kit. Her Daggers need a pretty long time to drop and they carry like 80% of her damage. They are also telegraphed, wich means that you will know WHERE she will be jumping and that can heavily abused. An extend to that is, that she isn't as mobile as you make it out to be. Katarina HAS to jump onto her Daggers to get the reset. This means her E reset is kind of worthless if you can punish her from actually jumping onto said Daggers. And if she doesn't jump onto them, she isn't doing anything at all. Because, again, they are 80% of her damage. Things like high cooldowns without the reset, no tankyness or build in sustain, interruptable ult just add to the list of counterplay.

The cast time and delay of her E is just stupid. It's too small to be directly abused by enemies, but big enough to create secenarios that simply feel bugged (again the Yasuo Q example). It doesn't really serve a purpose. Originally it was just another tool to delay her damage during the assassin update, but yet again, every other assassin (!) who had a similar delay build in (Rengar, Fizz, LeBalnc) have been reverted. Katarina is the only assassin left who still suffers from such a hard delay on her biggest damage source. And that makes her the slowest assassin, although she is supposed to excell in skirmishes and teamfights. Now tell me how these two traits are fitting?