Talk:Shyvana/@comment-10300926-20131119185603/@comment-5209745-20131122162025

At best, Shyv will build 30 AP from Trinity. While Q doesn't scales hard, it actually scales harder than E, and the lower CD from a rank 5 Q will help using the E mark more often than casting E more oftenly. And the E mark doesn't even scales.

It's definetively not the same to reduce that 6 secs CD than reducing a 10 secs CD. And even when you're not building AD, at the very moment you get an on-hit item that cooldown reduction becomes far more useful. But hey, that's like my opinion.

"The question was what to max after W is maxed..."

True, I did missread Mikeler. My apologies to Peripheus for my comment.