User blog comment:Michalwadas/Garen's rework idea/@comment-2019837-20120309211744

I don't like this particular rework.

1. ) Too many relations (sharing similar abilities) with other, already existing champions 2.) Far too far-fetched compared to the current Garen 3.) The ideas you bring potentially blow Garen into the universe; I just want to point out (W), which is a prime example for that. 4.) Garen is physical only; for good idea, too. Abilities like the ultimate already scale horrible great with health and the likes, making an additional scaling scary. 5.) You would make Garen a "must-be" Tanky DPS (up to DPS), because he already scales amazingly hard. 6.) Giving permanent reduced damage is literally a "f**k you" to the enemy and not exactly... "playstyle-health-friendly". 7.) You don't want abilities that shouldn't scale in a "normal" build with "particular" stats. Example: you wouldn't want a champion that heavily relies on his damage (even builds a lot of it, too), to get even more shield on him with attack damage; to not make it "useless" however and make some different builds possible, "AP" is a valuable possiblity to let it scale with. However: You don't want to scale THIS ultimate with the perceived ultimate AND with attack damage.

I don't criticize you for trying, but I try to help you see reason. The numbers seem.... "roughly"... fine, for the most part, but I'd rather not have him like that.