Talk:Warmog's Armor/@comment-5312207-20130210112349

theres a effective but not cost effecient, or late game worth item against this item.

Grievious Wound, MorelloNomicon. but it is waste of slow for unworthy stat it gives.

This item Deserve to be nerf down a bit, check Heart of Tarrasssque.

Possible way to nerf warmog start without nerfing the item (proposal) :

- buff up item who provide heal reduction, so it will become effecient and worth at later stage of the game

- bringback Madred

- or buff up Botrk

why ? people who rush the item make enemy have no other choice then going huge resistance shred composition, teamfight become annoying and long. if get this item early, no useful counterplay.

or just nerf this item ; nt much, disable the passive heal whenever take champion damage for few second (Garen's Passive)