Talk:Olaf/@comment-68.37.253.208-20120623172507/@comment-4874056-20120702005105

Jungle Olaf should be treated as a counter pick to certain cc heavy team comps. For his ganks to be efficient there must be some sort of synergy (stun, snare etc.) between Olaf and the laner. But then again if you're against Amumu in jungle for example then you can just abuse Amumu's early weakness by invading him and possibly killing him in his own jungle or atleast steal his red (AFTER doing your own blue because Amumu is likely to start at his own blue and he will do it slower than Olaf) to postpone Amumu from getting level 6 sooner than you. Olaf is also a carry jungler in a sense because he becomes more stronger the longer the game goes on so by any means Olaf is a perfectly viable jungle pick. Besides Olaf has many build options and is never "useless" when it comes to doing what he does best and that is wreaking havoc on the enemy carries with his ult on or counter initiating. Saying that jungle Olaf is unviable is just pure ignorance and shitty knowledge about this game in general.

PS. Those in lower elo (roughly up to 1500s) should just pick a carry jungler instead of those fancy-ass cc heavy junglers who are popular now because the teammates on lanes don't know how to play with a jungler (or even react to basic stuff or watch the minimap etc.) who does not have much damage but has a lot of CC (such as Alistar, Maokai, Nautilus, Amumu, Tanky "TheOddOne style" Nocturne (better play him almost full ad or metagolem because you probably can't land your Q or your teammates are most likely retarded in lower elo) and I can't imagine anyone being good with Lee Sin in that range either). Just sayin' stick to basics and don't try anything fancy you've seen done millions of times in pro streams or tourneys because chances are that'll never work for you or works 1% of the time.