Talk:Manamune/@comment-148.188.1.60-20120815150100

I agree that this item might need a little buff, but i cannot understand why there are so much negative posts here.

Sure it is not super effective on every champ, but buying only this item and getting the stacks to maximum provides about 2000-2500 Mana to most AD Champs which translates to a total of 60-65 AD.

So you get the AD + nearly unlimited mana for 2110 gold. Ok, the AD is less the moment you buy it, but the same is true for bloodthirster and nobody questions that at last you get "100AD + 20% Lifesteal" from it.

Actually the main argument I hear against Manamune is "just don't spam your skills to safe mana" - sounds good when you hear it if spammin means using skills unefficently, but there are lots of things that can just be done faster / better with skill usage

- pushing lanes faster

- killing jungle creeps faster

- poking more often

- harassing in lane more often (if you are still on a lane when you buy it)

And simply not being oom afterwards preventing you from getting a kill.

So why not make good use of all the mana and be able activate skills frequently? There are other items that let you get rid of your manaproblems for sure, but this one also has AD offensive capabilities which one might take over defense/health etc.

Maybe I am to trigger-happy with my skills but it just seems to work out better for me and not getting a kill because of being oom is just annoying