Talk:Heimerdinger/@comment-87.155.109.101-20120726175934/@comment-67.176.174.122-20120727015116

Heimers turrets are permanant. They gain a lot of health quickly, and they can easily take down a champion who attacks you if you stun them and hit them with missiles. Heimer main damage is not supposed to be his turrets, they are supposed to be extra damage while he combos stuff into it.

Zyras plants are more powerful, but they only get off a few shots, and do 25% less damage per plant targeting an enemy, then die. This is unlike heimers, who shoot shots repeatedly that reduce armor and magic resistance, along with doing splash damage, and two of them can be attacking at one. Stack this with the speed debuff from the ult and you can turn the turrets into some mean little bastards. Stack AP with heimer. If you want to get Aegis, you can, but its not entirely worth it. THe extra health is nice but it doesn't hold a torch to heimers damage with high AP.

On another note, the rework looks nice. It will definitely give heimer a new playing style and make him worth a lot more. Even though I think hes good, I agree wtih everyone when I say he needs a buff. Badly