Talk:Garen the Night of Demacia/@comment-3554826-20110703052231/@comment-98.252.26.207-20110709041018

Just another update. :O

Doing more math, and the above number I posted was without armor, I see why stacking critical chance is not a good idea.

The above numbers only have about a 60% critical rate, and armor seems to wreck that damage.

This really sheds light on this champion because mathematically, there doesn't seem to be anything wrong with Garen. Armor just wrecks his damage. Go figure. Heheh.

Even stacking critical chance, his damage would probably only be "reasonable" and he'd die very quickly.

I don't feel he's UP or OP at all now. He seems just right. He just won't do a lot of damage late-game, but late-game he's practically unkillable, so I suppose he can do damage over a much longer period of time, which is the point of bruisers and a good thing or bad thing depending on the situation you're in. There's really no way of fixing his damage from what I can see without making him overpowered.

So in the end, Garen errs more towards survivability than damage, but it seems to serve him well. Judgment can get a lot of damage, but really only in theory, not so much in practice.