Talk:Renekton/@comment-7846894-20140304010407/@comment-7846894-20140317045654

^His base values are terrible. He needs Fury to get any thing good out of any of his abilities. Only good base values are on his E and R. And that's because you get to use it twice and the other does massive aoe damage over time. Shyvanna has great base values and gets naturally tank over time while scaling extremely well with the items she gets to become a late game monster. The two are fundamentally different. Renekton's role falls down to meat shield, but Shyvanna can transform into tanky frontliner who do a crap load of damage and is hard to peel because of the chasing ability granted by her W.