Talk:Olaf/@comment-4076431-20130201144458

Xypherous from Riot just posted a bunch about the Olaf nerfs.

Some interesting quotes:


 * "...Olaf can falter (especially at lower ELO play, where his skillset doesn't really actually counter anyone due to being unnecessary most of the time - You don't need CC immunity, for example, against a team that can't coordinate their CC well) - there are actually many many possible reasons why win rates don't actually point to balance. They are an incredibly useful metric - but underneath it all, all statistics are meaningless unless it suggest some kind of falsifiable relationship."
 * "On the one hand, there is pretty strong evidence that Olaf's win rate climbed with skill to the point of warping competitive play (at least, in the current environment and itemization. You may proceed to light the molotov at my general direction) - but there is also pretty strong evidence that a lot of Olaf's power either hard to access or irrelevant unless you were in a super high-tier competitive environment."
 * "It's tricky on Olaf because the toolset he has scales incredibly well with skill - but the scaling and toolset tend to be more than useless if you don't have some prior requisite skillset knowledge like 'perfect farm, perfect positioning and fighting a team with coordinated peel.' It's a difficult to find balance because Olaf doesn't look hard to play - but he definitely is hard to play well for the average user."
 * "...obvious strengths that get out of hand really fast - for example, his passive is one that, as the people you play with and your ability to farm get better, goes from 'good' to 'oh dear god, that's like a million free AS' due to a combined effect from the support being better at aiding low health targets and the player being able to better gauge how threatening the situation is. CC immunity without some sort of movement speed, as I've pointed out before, is a skill that only becomes problematic once the rest of Olaf's kit is already being played well and it magnifies the effect."