Talk:Nocturne/@comment-37.110.90.163-20121214153022/@comment-217.228.101.253-20121217204746

Nocturne is a jungler and he has many disadvantages on a lane (SR)

Yi Trynda, Sion, GP and Fiora are all top champs, some are mid counter picks too (yi, sion) and they all can jungle too but have some issues in the jungle

Maybe look at Shyvanna too if you want a jungler with heavy damage, mobility and tankyness, Rengar has it too (less mobility) Jungle damage: KhaZix (lacks tankyness but has high mobility)

Top carries to look at: all assasines, Olaf, Jax