Talk:Garen/@comment-26245168-20190905062739/@comment-25541654-20190911150327

@Lunatic Luna, with the difference that if you are Pyke and get CC'd one secon you are bursteable as you have no bonus HP, Pyke is an assassin and have to build damage wich its way more expensive that tanky items; Garen is not, and at least while Pyke can do Pentakills with his own ultimate it remains a skill shot and there have been many players that have misplayed or miscalculated their ultimate damage and got destroyed.

Garen its a point and click execution that doesn't care if he is 0 10 0 2 and half items, if you are the villain and have low HP he will just Flash R to you and you are good as dead even if you are 21 0 0 full build, wich is frankly stupid.

Even Darius has to stack his marks or execute someone with his R to start fully aplying his tue potential, more over Garen is resourceless so even in that part Garen doesn't deserve to have such power, its a noob champ to teach players how abilities works, something you use and the drop.