Talk:Zyra/@comment-84.1.54.82-20120726140234/@comment-36.252.62.120-20120727015523

Why are you complaining about the cdr?Her cdr is fine.She is a mage and atleast one of her ability needs to spam.Her ulti wont be spammable with a same team fight,her q and e only have a decent ratio on ap.I mean hitting her q is like firing veigars w.And veigar has higher damage but more cd.It's like how shyvana's ulti comes close to poppy's w(I think it is the w that gives the armour.)The ratios are for the final phase of the game.20 cdr is nothing if you dont survive.And usually in a team fight,she hits one ulti,2 seeds,1 e and 2 q.That brings about a damage of 1500 or something at max.(with average ap)If you remember,if fiddle is not out of the picture,he can do over 2000 dmg in 5 seconds.There is nothing op about her.People just underestimate key things in the game like evading,focusing and finally underestimating(those plants,Yes they are dangerous to stick around with) If you know how to counter her,she doesn't really have anything on you.