Talk:Hecarim/@comment-93.37.52.28-20121226090724/@comment-24.56.23.97-20130101071613

I think Hecarim is UP. He can't deal as much damage as a bruiser or even off-tank and can't output as much cc as a true tank like Amumu or Leona. He can't even deal as much AoE damage as them. AoE and a lot of cc wouldn't fit into his build, soooooo he needs to have his ratios buffed to allow him to be built with some offensive power in mind, right? Or, better yet, his abilities should scale with AD instead of bonus AD to better synergize with the expectation of him building tanky. GENIUS. Seriously, why does he scale with bonus AD like he is an AD caster or something? Zed, Skarner, and Kha have better bonus AD ratios on thier spammable abilities (which deal 100% damage to minions and monsters), sending a clear message that Hec is not able to compete.

Also, there should be more semi-tanky or tanky items with move speed. Without Force of Nature (WHY RIOT WHY DID YOU REMOVE IT) his passive is pretty lame. S3 hasn't treated him as well as other champions or junglers, even.