Talk:Ryze/@comment-1905446-20150705210747/@comment-1905446-20150707034634

Oh, I have no problems with Ryze having perma-ult at 16, it's just that he used to have to build items to do it. Now he could stack an Archangel's Staff on top of four RoAs and still be able to perma-ult. Not really fair in my mind that he should have no item gate unlike other hypercarries.

Isn't the definition of a hypercarry usually someone who scales so well off items that their late game is stronger than others? To be one of the strongest champions without items at 18 as well as one of the strongest with items just takes away any risk of choosing a hypercarry in the first place. Jinx, Jax, Kayle, Twitch, Azir, etc. all need to get a gold advantage or stall a game out until full build to attain godlike status. His early game stats aren't low either, and he can farm with Q in an unsafe lane from level 1.