Talk:Alistar/@comment-3529242-20161024121615/@comment-3529242-20161026184128

One big difference for this and Morgana's, that it is ranged, with Ali, most likely you won't be able to survive the full duration at late game without his ult.

So what if he is slotted for another role? top Ali with a decent wave clear won't be horrible, look at Lulu solo lane, and weirdly many of the now conventional supports were mid solo laners too.

Yeah, old Ali's E was horrible too, so I guess it is pretty "fair" but his Q got nerfed, not extra stun duration after landing. I think it is only fair if they gave him a better E. I guess the latest buff in PBE is quite good (pass through units), so you might be able to push someone to your team if you didn't use W.

Ali's ult isn't all that game changing too, by the time you use your ult is just try to survive as you most likly used your WQ combo. It should have the feeling of Olaf's ult as he is breaking his chains and rushing toward people scaring the shit out of them, or at least thematically.