Talk:Karma/@comment-25223119-20151206030121/@comment-25223119-20151207120003

I think there's a misunderstanding.

A gameplay update is not a rework. Please do not confuse the two, if that were the case, we could say ADCs in S6 needed no rework at all. An update is to keep things a bit more consistent, and because mages are such a large pool of champions, Riot has more or less decided that if the updates will come in, they might as well update whoever they consider Immobile Mage. Karma is in that considered a part of the immobile mages, and like it or not, if Riot does indeed updates (or in your words, "reworks") her, we'll just have to accept it.

So I don't know why you're talking about whether Karma deserves to updated (reworked)/changed, when the actual question I'm posting is how will Karma be changed/updated (reworked). All ADCs were very balanced and solid, yet they have certain changes made to make them unique and allow greater flexibility (Mid Quinn, Jungle Graves). Similarly, the update will probably hope to make Karma more viable or strong somewhere else whilst giving her something that others don't have, Mantra is not a good enough reason to justify uniqueness. I'm going along the lines of something like MF's Love Tap, an exclusive gameplay element to her. While we can argue Karma's Mantra feels like Elise's Spider Form or Jayce's Hammer Form.

I see that you like her being a solid support, but let's not be too avoidant about updates. It is an open discussion and I am certain any updates that happen to her are attempts to make her better overall.