Talk:Udyr/@comment-175.143.210.60-20120606061653/@comment-5162027-20120607085210

Honestly, Tiger is best kept for lane- the burst is ridiculous, and it lets you just level Turtle and become totally immovable. Harassing Lanedyr whos got a couple points in Turtle and a point in Tiger is almost not worth the CD on your abilities.

Phoenix clears jungle so incredibly fast I'm hard pressed to think of any reason to take Tiger jungle. Sure, when it comes to ganking, Tiger has the better burst, but any lane you gank as Udyr should have the CC necessary to close, land Bear, and then Phoenix, while your laning champs pile in too.

I'm by no means an expert player, but I'll throw my hat into Phoenix's corner jungle-wise.