Talk:Kayle/@comment-25855686-20150711221728/@comment-24082016-20150716174755

@Nedek

I really don't know what to tell you man. If you dont understand the core strengths and how different circumstances affect a champs effectiveness at its "roles", then you're gonna keep finding "counter picks" to that champ. Kayle is like the epitome of this.

From the moment the game starts, Kayle sits in the middle of the pack when it comes to strengths. She isn't the champ with the greatest burst, but it isn't weak either. She isn't the tankiest champ, but she isn't the squishiest either. Points like these are more evident when you look at her kit. Her kit basic stats and scaling stats make everything a gradual increase of effectiveness on its own. The important part is, that her kit gives you all the tools you'll need to exploit an enemy champ since laning phase. You get a slow, a speed,  a heal, a shred, an attack range extension,, some aoe, even an invulernability. It's the reason she's an effective lane bully. The only thing you dont get is a hard cc. What Kayles "winning" hinges on is ur ability to play on ur enemies weaknesses, and to avoid the winning situations of the enemies.

If you don't understand ur lane opponent on even a basic lvl, there's a good chance u'll have a hard time getting a decent advantage over them on kayle. Damage building is great, but in higher elo, when u're less likely to get snowballed inlane, you need to know how to create windows of opportunity to punish and how to avoid getting punished. That's why I took up Rylais and merc treads as core for Kayle, and it's only gotten stronger after the patch. Just assuming a champ is a counter to another bc of the damage output or chain cc is the wrong way to think about things, especially for someone who uses Kayle.