Talk:Veigar/@comment-190.19.250.58-20130312141717/@comment-5761259-20130603165018

He's a good counter pick to just about any AP mid, and he does really well against TF. It got to the point one game where he would walk into the lane, I would ulti, and he would die. I had like 22 kills from the laning phase. Really, his job is to destroy a squishy, high damage target, but then he's done for a while. So he can't exactly carry, but if you get fed enough, you can pull off some team fight changing damage, which is the entire idea behind him.

For example, I once 1v5'd as Veig by dropping dark matter, which instantly killed their support, top teemo, and jungle. I then ulti'd the mid and q'd the ADC. Penta kill. If the enemy is bad enough, and you're good enough, you can pull stuff like that off. But under normal circumstances, you run in, instakill some one, get jumped on by whoever, and then die yourself so.