Talk:Garen/@comment-3493296-20120801214610

If anything, Garen needs a buff atm. He is considered last tier in any tier list and it is basically because he is so easily countered. He has no way to get through enemy armor unlike other similar champs like Xin or Darius. So what he needs? Passive % Armorpenetration. This would help him to come at the same level like those similar champs.

His ultimate could be adjusted aswell that it deals less damage, but true dmg. This way it would be more reliable and things like Poppy's passive wouldn't make it completly useless.