Talk:Ivern/@comment-4636093-20161001104149

After playing him, oh my god he's so fucking fun.

Some of the comments here imply that he's a bot lane support who roams around the jungle occasionally like Bard or Blitz, I really don't think so and think he's designed as a jungler who just happens to be a support, like Kindred is a jungler who just happens to be a marksman or Amumu is a jungler who just happens to be a tank.

His first clear is super fast and his passive might as well read "He starts the game at level 2" since he can instantly kill/defeat/"free" his first camp with smite which gets him that as soon as it spawns, and the rest of his full clear only takes about 60 seconds tops since his jungle pattern involves walking through it placing groves then walking back when they mature. Most junglers take ~2 minutes even the fastest ones.

He has... ummm... 'deceptivly' high damage for a pure support especially with AP. Mostly because of that shield being so spammy, his cooldowns start on cast rather than on trigger so shield only has a cooldown of 2.8 seconds after the detonation. Also Daisy has a 12 second cooldown if left to expire after the full duration which is easy with it getting tankier with AP from both gaining resistances and of course having such a spammy shield being placed on it constantly.

I originally built him with 0/12/18 masteries to go tankier although now I think that 0/18/12 may be better for the additional 5% CDR and Thunderlords. AP Bruiser seems to be the best, with more emphasis on the AP part rather than the bruiser part, ratios are just too good.