Talk:Maokai/@comment-139.130.57.34-20110217212814

Why do people say he has bad ratios? Sapling does two lots of damage making it one of the better nukes in the game. The ratios are 0.4 and 0.6. That's pretty insane if you hit it right. It's like how anivia Q has only 0.5 but any player that got double-blasted by it can vouch that in effect its actually a 1:1 ratio.

W is 0.8 which is excellent and ult scales 0.5 AND scales with the damage absorbed. Q is mostly used for disrupt/intiation/slow so I really don't care too much about the AP ratios for that. I think his ratios are fine.