Talk:Heimerdinger/@comment-83.250.130.205-20130101202620/@comment-4878039-20130102131424

There are some people that still somehow can't see that he's been overnerfed for 2 years and call him powerful, because, well, let's hear them:

"Heimer is extremely powerful he is not tanky at all but does dmg like fizz and veigar together...His turrets...splashdamage on 5 with around 300-500 magic dmg (if you buy the right items) his Missiles...seeks to targets deals magic damage that still is much in level 1. His stun (only thing that isnt OP but its still good and a powerul farming tool) His ulti (slows targets aand deal extra dmg with turrets...so no escape i you are not packing a flash).... so he doesnt suck at all -.-" (quote from an elohell.net picture about heimer's suckage)

People who write something like in the quote above above have usually lost to him in mid and have never played him. So many people say his turrets deal a lot of damage. It's true (although Singed's poison trail outdamages them), but their area of effect is the one of an immobile minion. His rockets are random and have a mediocre AP ratio and his grenade is slower than Anivia's Q and also has a modest AP ratio.

I hope the rework comes soon (I doubt that) with some well-thought changes.