Talk:Olaf/@comment-5077844-20141108222537/@comment-5077844-20141109115209

I played him jungle too, but he's kinda vulnerable to counterjungling and invades. His ganks are only strong if you're chasing, as you will get outdamaged if they turn on you. I generally feel like top is a better way to get safely into the midgame where he really starts screwing people over.

Also, i feel like none of hte current jungle items really benefit olaf. Lizard is sort of wasted in my opinion, Golem is nice but really slows down your damage while not giving you that much of a tnak advantage, and Flare....well htat item is only good on Yi adn Warwick right now..

I just feel that it is way easier to get fed toplane, and also more healthy to oyur team since as jungle olaf you'd have to grab all the kills possible in order to snowball effectively.

Personally it's sjut satisfying to duel toplane and surprise your enemy because the yunderestimate your sustain and damage when low HP (that passive is soooo good).

also, i don#t see many really counters toplane. a good ryze can try and shut him down early but with flask start and a man pot you can safely farm up to a negatron cloak and bash that Ryze at lvl 6. Only stuff like Quinn, Riven and Lulu who just won't let you touch them have a real chance in a 1v1.,..and even then they lose in an all in (except lulu since she doesn't really all in).