Talk:VPBE/@comment-24951773-20160503205313/@comment-4270771-20160506055013

Except those apps can't give you information you weren't supposed to have. The new timers even work when you DIDN'T have vision of the camp being killed. If your app could tell you that even one patch ago it would be considered flat-out cheating. If you were a pro player and got caught using that you would be banned from tournaments. Now riot is giving essentially cheating to everyone to see who can cheat the best. I don't think I know  a single jungler who likes those buff timers. I hope to god they get removed soon. It is hands down one of the STUPIDEST things riot has ever done, all in yet another attempt to neuter skill from the game and specifically cater to bad players instead of rewarding good ones.