Talk:Elise/@comment-187.34.41.111-20130317165439/@comment-76.246.56.208-20130318044034

Ok look, Elise is my main, and I don't have a problem with the nerfs she's getting. So her Q's base damage is slightly reduced, so it's range in human form is slightly smaller. It's not a big hit on her. The vast majority of her damage comes from her scaling. I get about 20% of their health plus the base with one Q. The base damage isn't actually the problem. I have yet to see a build that works against Elise because her Q scales off health. Riot listening to the community isn't the problem in this situation, it's people complaining about Elise because they're unable to break the meta for some reason. The meta is garbage when you face an Elise, and no one is willing to adapt. That's why Riot is 'being forced' to nerf her. People follow the meta like sheep when players create the meta. You know why Quinn will never get a nerf? Because 'she's squishy' and that is supposedly enough to make up for her kit. Bonus damage, bonus attack speed, gap closer/escape mechanism, blind (which splashes), and AOE ult. It's too much. How can champions like Miss Fortune compete? Ashe? Even Ezreal with everything that he has going for him. Of all the AD carry's, Draven and Graves are the only ones who can compete because Graves is the tankiest of the ADC's, and Draven's well, Draven. Riot listens to the loudest voices. If you start posting on the forums on LoL and not just the wiki, people will start talking about the same thing and things might change after a few months. Hecarim didn't really get a nerf, it was more of a lateral move because yes, his Spirit of Dread got nerfed, but his Rampage got buffed. I know most people don't think it's enough, but if done right, you can use Rampage every 2 seconds. Elise's stun is great. It has gotten me so many kills and gotten me so many escapes it's not even funny. (Plus, the animation is awesome) Rappel is amazingly useful for three reasons. 1. It's  ahuge gap closer 2. You're untargetable while up in the air and 3. It can give you enough time to heal just that tiny bit early game from pots or whatever to be able to get the kill on your opponent without dying for it. Did you know that by using Rappel, you can dodge Karthus' ultimate? I've done it so many times it's not even funny. 1 second after you see the red swirling down, use it and you're fine. Not 1 point of damage. It's amazing! It's saved my life before. Elise is one of the stronger champions because of her kit, plus she gets her transformation at level 1! How is that not awesome? I think Jayce is the only other one to have that.