Talk:Darius/Strategy/@comment-24.193.142.30-20120731211353/@comment-91.150.221.10-20120814201339

So you mean in the jungle? No. Nocturne doesn't win the matchup. He will get bullied out of his own jungle. Better ganks indeed past 6 indeed, won't argue, but that means Noc can outpace Darius in the right circumstances at best, not counter him.

You mean toplane? No. Noc is still a weak laner. He has nothing to counteract Darius' impressive lane control.

You mean in teamfights? Nope. They shouldn't even really ever fight one another. Both go straight for the carries, period. Noc seems more efficient due to his ult, but Darius surpasses Noc in AoE damage (if you ult the carry, you're not using the Q on the whole enemy team).

The CC of Noc is stronger, true, but it's also very easy to counter with dashes, blinks and cleanse. Darius either hits or misses.

You're trying to convince us Noc is just better than Darius, which cannot really be confirmed. But one thing is for sure - Darius is considered a problem by a vast majority of the community nowadays, whereas Noc is sort of forgotten.