Talk:Swain/@comment-4911476-20121105203059/@comment-87.172.195.129-20121106161956

May I suggest you Malz and Veigar?

Both are ment to be farmed up, with spellvamp both can lane forever even with some harass, have strong AoE and shine in Teamfights, Malz has a 95% chance of killing a single enemy and if the team is able to support him a bit he really is a powerful enemy.

Veigar is one of my main... if you get him farmed up, enemys will focus you far over your adc, but usually you get at least one kill per teamfight... and your stun just changes the game. Also by midgame you can most likely kill the enemy ap-mid with a single compo (whats able to achive during a stun) or already forced him to build mr.

Another Champ I'd suggest is Kennen, he does AoE farm, has a great escape and isn't too squishy. He can Q a defensive enemy and farm under the tower, and if you have a less ganking focused jungler (like udyr), kennen is able to get at the scene, pop his ult and make sure the enemy gets down. He's also a Energy Champ, means you can spam your abilitys as you want and spellvamp is your friend.