Talk:Shen/@comment-78.0.110.31-20111109134758/@comment-203.206.4.104-20111112034136

hes really not that bad, i can still tank and carry games with him with far greater success rate then with most other tanks. yes his q only has a base damage of 210, but its cd is only 3 seconds. and with a .75 ratio you can easily get the damage up. ryalis and abyssal sceptor will add another 100 or so damage onto that. and shen doesnt need to do alot of damage to kill people, because once youve enaged him or hes engaged you , its generally impossible to get away again. his taunt, plus with a rylais your Q will slow , if you have a randuins thats another slow , i always play shen with exhaust and ghost as well , since they are the two spells with the most defensive and offensive applications available. and with a sunfire and/or thornmail youl be hurting people just by being near them or having them attack you. you need to think about his potential damage over all areas, not just his Q and auto attacks