Talk:Garen the Night of Demacia/@comment-3546228-20110816121312/@comment-98.252.26.207-20110829234916

Well, I'm not going to argue, but I will say that the 12k-13k build has more effective health and armor/MR than your build. So if you got wrecked with mine, I can't see how you wouldn't get wrecked with yours. That sounds to me like an error in playstyle, not the build. That honestly doesn't even make sense.

And no, your build doesn't do more damage. Where are you getting this from? What build were you using? I never went in-depth with my build here, I just posted some items up top. I suspect you got something wrong because I know first hand that just isn't true.

I was on the forums a long time ago showing math for why Last Whisper works better than Bloodthirster with Judgment, and I said this here too. No one's arguing that. What's better than Last Whisper is Last Whisper with a Bloodthirster or Infinity Edge.

The problem with your build is that it requires you to finish your highly expensive items in order for it to do anything at all. 9 times out of 10, the game will end before that happens, and you won't be contributing as much.

You had to have gotten something wrong here.