Talk:Riven/@comment-25148748-20150909072159

Why doesn't she have mana? Not being salty or anything(though I do have a particular distaste for rivens) but I dont really get why she's manaless. Most other manaless champions at least have other form of resource they have to manage be it health, furry/rage, energy, or overheat, but I dont really get why she doesn't. She has the upperhand in most trades already if she pulls them off properly(it does take a fair amount of finess to do I admit), but even if not she just goes back(likely not having taken much dmg due to her shield and likely lifesteal), missed 3-5 cs waiting on her cd's, and then is able to trade/apply pressure again not having lost the 130-170 mana it would cost most champions to pull off a full rotation of all of their abilities. Again, not trying to call down the nerf hammer on her, but I just dont get why she's been left without anything other than cd's to gate her like almost every other champ in the game is.

On a side note is heimer top a good counter, he seems like it, but I'm afraid he might be too squishy, and easily bursted + grenade is slow and easily doged at longer ranges.