Talk:VPBE/@comment-24890638-20140725134227/@comment-1330314-20140725224603

isn't overpowered per se, he just has too much on his kit. Mechanics like AoE shields and ranged skillshot pulls are usually enough to take up an entire ability slot by themselves, and even form the highlight of other champions' kits, but Thresh gets those and tons of other stuff on top, including one of the best escapes in the game (clickable lantern), a dash, poke and AoE displacement + a strong slow. Nerfing just the numbers isn't going to nerf Thresh's ban rate, because right now he has so many answers to everything, and so many mechanics that are naturally very strong just for existing, that he's a top-tier pick for any team comp, and against any enemy comp. Nerfing the AoE on his shield (which won't affect his bot lane performance) and the damage on his ultimate (which isn't really the highlight of the ability, even though a damage nerf there might be a little overboard) would help focus him into a tighter and clearer niche, even though he'd still be fairly good at everything.