Talk:Zed/@comment-6281696-20141008150409/@comment-24447033-20141013002854

I already stated that zed was a champion whos better than average but not overpowered, and this just means that theres champions who are 'better' than him. For one, zed has more counterable items than someone like leblanc, and more ways to counter a champion means the power is reduced. I just used le blanc as an example that if you think zed is bad, I don't know how you are giong to cope going against a le blanc. Take for instance, let's 'assume' that all bronze players are really bad and that they don't build to counter him, in that instance zed would be really strong. Also, I don't understand why you did not use heal as it probably would have saved you (you can tell if death mark would you kill with the floating shuriken). And you're incorrect, being with another member of the team would do many things:

- make him reconsider his attack

- provide cc/shield/heal

- potentially reduce his damage - i.e. you getting hit by secondary shurikens/exhaust (which also reduces the 'pop' damage)

Plus, it takes more than one second to do zed's combo, and as far as I can see: He managed to: AA you, use 2 shurikens and spin one on you, so even if you did not him back (and failed to stun him) he can resume his combo through his shadow regardless where you are, so it doesn't matter where you push him back unless you actually hard cc him. Take janna for example, a big counter pick to zed; her tornado ccs him, her shield stops potential kills, her ult totally pushes him back AND heals allies, plus she has exhaust, and what's more is she (like any support) can build mikaels. Honestly speaking, if you think you should be able to escape an assassin as a vayne who failed her stun in a 1v1 situation then that's where you are wrong. While you 'can' escape depending on the skill levels of both players, it's not a 'should' escape, because regardless of whether you knocked him back early or not, if he manages his combo he should be rewarded.