Talk:Heimerdinger/@comment-7818256-20131101033955/@comment-8506165-20131103030216

Max range Nidalee spear does over 1200 damage with under 400AP too. On a six second cooldown.

At least Heimer's upgrade!W is an ult that also shares a cooldown with one of his basic abilities. As ults go it's not the worst to get hit by - look at 's Death Lotus, 's Chaos Storm or 's Nether Grasp (when he suppresses you on his W). I'll take a full damage Heimer ultW over the max damage on those any day.