Thread:Double Slap/@comment-3391671-20180123050816/@comment-3391671-20180128112021

I will admit to being a bit confused, or moreso unclear, about what you mean by "that philosophy," be it the opinion about others automatically being full of themselves in regards to understanding others, or about thoughts on creative writing for characters/stories by attempting to put oneself into their shoes. When it comes to imagination, I too believe that one should be boundless with it and not try to limit it early on. However, I do also believe in the responsibility of the thought, in the same vein as I do with freedom: freedom is certainly one we should approach for, but with a responsibility of where, when and why it is applied on oneself and others. It's that middleground of having imagination/freedom, but on a proper leash so it doesn't go wild or out of context. Making the wonderful ideas is a true ideal, but you could say "know one's limits" in ways.

I too would find myself to be embodied partly by the phrase "Man whose been through shit." While I have a similar story of trying to tell of my hardships to the world, my tale is strangely optimistic but not. If to put into context, there are two idealistic values I follow, one being humanism, while the other is Viktor Frankl's. "Humanism" is the belief in human potential to be better, where as Logotherapy concentrates on the idea that life has meaning at any time (even in the most miserable of situations) and we have the freedom to define what that meaning is. Because of these, I've marched on a path that some find to be rather unusual, mostly with my ideals and integrity. No one quote as of yet feels perfect to my way of thinking, sadly.

This does lead into how I create my characters. If you didn't notice, some of my champion concepts (Izo, Nevon) follow these ideas in one way or another, representing a fraction if not more of who I am. Certainly, I do try to branch out and practice creating other sorts of characters, but just like anyone, lean into those who I feel most comfortable and empathetic to. In its own way, it may be a bad habit, since it limits my possible roster of characters unless there is intervention by someone.

Nonetheless, Nevon in this case embodies a couple ideas that I follow. Certainly, he won't be as optimistic as I see myself to be, but I don't find that he should be too down-on-his-luck. Probably what I would describe as a "on the battlefield and little more depressed" version of myself, seeing that I'm taking action in a different field as I sit in my office.

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I'm glad that my ideas did not have too many riffs from yours. He's certainly bitter in finding himself fighting when war is the roots of the issue he had faced. And as you point out later, I did have some thought (though shallow) of him being this representation of "People get hurt in a fight. Someone needs to help them... and seeing no doctor willing to bat an eye, I'll decide for myself to be that 'combat medic' instead of joining the others."

I too had some thoughts on quotes, but many of the one's you have written down are excellent, at times better than what I've had. Some though, I do have thoughts to share; otherwise, yo ucan take it that I like the quote if I don't mention it here.

In the first set of quotes, this one stood out to me: "If you get killed out there, I'll kill you myself." What does this mean? Either my English is not adding up, or there is something I'm just overreading.

I've also thought of target specific quotes for healing. For example, healing champions with machine based tech would be nice with "I'm a doctor, not an engineer."

I would like to say that he would be less frustrated and just sullen about failing to save a person's life. Otherwise, I like the "Please, help me help you. Let me do my job." quote, as it shows how demanding he can be, but with a hint of the difficulties he has already seen with uncooperative "patients."

It also bring into mind quotes for enemies... but I forget, Nevon doesn't have the choice of healing enemies. But I could hear him say, "I didn't save you because of some sense of justice, but because of the possibility of betterment in you." But... you could say some people may take that quote and go tsundere with "I didn't save you because I wanted to, b-baka..." Oh how my spleen would hurt from seeing that beeing said by him orz

Now, back on track, reactive battle quotes sound nice. The "Nobody needed to die, but everyone will." quote makes me think it should be "Nobody needs to die, but you will." But I assume there was a reason for those word choices.

I wouldn't like to say that Nevon has become quite that skeptical. However, fourth wall interaction... this is a nice way of showing that aspect of him.

The quotes on Nevon's philosophy are most spectacular. I love them. You are most definitely on spot with his concept of life, in that I too agree that he believes anyone deserves to live if they wish for it, while those who mindlessly ask for death is certainly a peeve on his mind.

Once again, if you have questions on Nevon's thoughts/morals/etc, ask away. I'll keep trying to explain myself or even brainstorm ideas with you. Nevon is still incomplete as you know, so keep the questions coming.

Another way to think of why he chooses to heal those on the front line of wars which he detests so much is because, as mentioned above, he finds that no one else is willingly volunteering to fill that role. Thus, he has decided to do just that, not only to face the reality he believes he needs to face but to also fulfill what others are not so willing to do.

This brings up a typical case when it comes to a person's death: the wish to rest one's own life, assuming that they've feel that they've really have had enough. I don't refer to when a person hopelessly says "Go. Leave me behind. Let me die." which can indicate an inner thought that they do want to live, but believe the situation would jeoperdize that, thus triggering Nevon to still attend to them. I refer to the more hospital case when a really old man believes he has lived long enough. Instead of trying to keep them living, if the patient truly desires, Nevon is willing to accept death in this form.

Satisfaction in the aftermath of a battle? Maybe. I do have thoughts that he would view the aftermaths, thus the peaceful moments, more as another "calm before the storm." But surely, he would recognize that he can now treat his patients without needing to worry about fighting. It is likely when one will ever see or hear him seem actually positive in attitude. This time between fights is certainly what he fights for, as temporal as it may be.