Talk:Shaco/@comment-25368309-20150806013937/@comment-8267817-20150819035650


 * Has already died waiting for Poppy rework*

Anyway, Shaco is currently not slated for rework because let's face it, he still does his job well. Sure, he can be annoying to fight, but that's mainly because people don't know how to deal with Shaco ganks. In a ranked game I ganked a Cassiopeia 5 times in around 5 minutes and killed her every single time because she just kept warding the bushes leading to the river and a good Shaco NEVER ganks from those bushes unless there is no other option. Shaco is frustrating because he isn't popular and most pople cannot practice fighting Shaco because he never shows up.

@Dinana I want to say one thing about Shaco's kit real quick. Lee Sin is Shaco's biggest counter, Shaco NEEDS his stealth to be effective and Lee Sin all but removes that with his... E I think? I don't really play Lee Sin, but it's the aoe ground slap. You should never lose track of a Shaco in a fight if you have Lee Sin unless you are pressing every button as rapidly as possible for the "mad outplays" that so many people are on about. You say there is no way to stop Shaco from counterjungling but Lee Sin players constantly buy a sightstone, ward your jungle, have your laners help you ward because if you don't keep track of him, then yes, he will take everything you've ever loved. For another thing you called Shaco easy to play, this I cannot agree with. Yorick is easy to play, Teemo is easy to play, hell even Katarina is easy to play in comparison to Shaco because Shaco relies so heavily on pissing off the enemy team to be effective. One final thing and I'll stop ranting here, Shaco is only as scary as you let him be, fear is the mind killer, but Shaco stands right behind it laughing. I've had games where I've thown off the enemy jungler so bad by NOT counterjungling when they were so prepared for me to do it that they didn't know how to react. I threw someone on tilt by purely leaving them alone when they expected me to be everywhere and taking everything. Shaco is not about killing the enemy as good as he is at it, shaCo exists to bring Chaos, and if you let him do it you've already lost.