Talk:Warmog's Armor/@comment-3165723-20110516032143/@comment-3165723-20110617094607

the item also takes a ridiculous amount of money to get and requires the highest demand of farm to max out the stacks. 100 minion kills and you might be able to cut that down to 70 with a few champ kills. as a first item, it's awful. you're getting a ridiculous amount of health as a trade for extra CC (randuin's omen, frozen mallet, rylai's) and aoe damage (sunfire) and utility (FoN, Spirit Visage). as a late game item, minion farming becomes more difficult to do since teamfights are the focus, and it requires ten champion kills/assists at least to get the stacks, which isn't quick to acquire. in my experience, no tank i have ever seen has done himself or his team well by getting this item, it just makes him harder to kill, which is completely useless considering anyone that knows what they're doing won't be attacking them. there's a reason why items like Randuin's and Sunfire are great tank items, randuins gives bonus CC and sunfire gives aoe magic damage. there are like 3 true damage champs in the game, Olaf, whose true damage is only 400-something, which is covered well enough by the health of the sunfire and randuin's should you choose to get them, and twitch, whose true damage is pathetic, and Vayne, whose true damage is BASED on you health. maybe i'm just wrong, but my experience with this item and anyone using it is that this item is a waste of a very large amount of gold. maybe if it costed less it would be a buy, but now, no.