Talk:Vladimir/@comment-2105328-20100726201319

Tryn isn't OP, his ult is just annoying. Its very simple to try and chase him down when he tries to escape with it. Which, any stunner in a team fight should take lead to go slow him while the rest catch up.

Jax's ult is just a Guinsoo's Rageblade, and that on any dps champion is going to hurt. And, it has a sheen/lich bane proc, which if the person is alive long enough, its going to hurt.