Talk:Vayne/@comment-5266525-20131211110455/@comment-24212263-20131212014921

A lot of players in today's meta forgot about cc entirely. CC is still a very hard counter to vayne and it foces the "oh so good" vayne player to get cleanse or qss. I think a huge problem with vayne pubstomp is expectations. A lot of players expect vayne to lose and some junglers won't even gank(or even stay for counterganking). What usually happens is the vayne will be naturall passive, cs, get pushed to tower, and cs at turret. Because the lane is pushed up your jungler won't gank or stay for a counter gank leaving the lane open for their jungler to come and give double kills.

It could also be support matchups...