Talk:Irelia/@comment-26034614-20150904192715/@comment-5761356-20150907084519

A lot of people don't seem to understand that her absolutely destroying you in the mid game 90% of the time is why she is so strong in SoloQ in the first place. Same goes for Riven or other very strong mid game champions. It's your or your junglers fault for not shutting her down when she is vulnerable. There is nothing wrong with asking your jungler to gank a champion that doesn't really have any free mobility or that has the potential to outright 1v2 you.

@DamonDraven The interesting thing here is that even though she is 0/3/0, it seems as if she farmed well enough to get 2 very strong items. She should NOT be able to kill you at that point if you gained enough advantage. There are other things outside of kills and deaths that determine match-ups (controlling minion wave, map pressure, tower pushing etc.). You DON'T need to fight her if you think she can kill you, no point in staying top 1v1ing a mid game champion if you could as well just push mid or force dragons.