Talk:Riven/@comment-4636093-20120725022145/@comment-5162027-20120727123221

^ She gets over it, thankfully, and turns out to be a pretty cool character. Shame she only manages to do the former to Hope though, that sad sack of shit just becomes a happy sack of shit.

I personally like the Noxians. I mean sure, they are pretty blantantly dickish, but they make no attempt to hide what they are. They're upfront and honest about it. Compare to Demacia, a country who has much the same sort of goal (Rule over Runeterra), but are outwardly all for love, justice, peace, and Mom's apple pie.

About Riven: What you said about lore in this game is true, however, we can also infer some of their personality through their in-game dialogue. Many champs have generic-y sounding dialogue to go along with their backstory, but Riven truely does get annoying when she won't shut up about "A broken blade can be reforged!" and whatnot. She does have redeeming qualities (seewhatIdidthereLAUGHDAMNYOU), but they get lost among the constant talking about herself and what she feels and how horrible her past is and holy shit girl get over yourself. Heck, Jarvan, Swain, Garen and Katarina are vastly more important, lore wise, than she is, but their dialogue concerning their past and whatnot is kept to an absolute minimum- they feel, as characters, far more focused on their current situation rather than wallowing in the past and in their own self-importance.

As for the remarks about her personal strife being har dot move on from, I call BS. Nasus has a harsher past- he had to watch his brother go slowly but surely insane before finally accepting that he has to be killed, only to find his brother has been essentially enslaved, kept in isolation with his mind left to rot in madness.

Kassadin more or less had his mind completely raped by an entire dimension of negative vibes, and has had his body twisted by the forces as a result- not even touching his possible daughter's kidnapping by monstrosities that man cannot even concieve of.

Lee Sin set himself on fire for months on end just to prove a point, and is now blind as a result.

All of these champions, and more, have experienced horrors and pains that are at the least on par with hers. None of them whine about it constantly. And that is why she pisses me off.