Talk:Rammus/Strategy/@comment-9280387-20131205164901/@comment-9280387-20131211154750

If you're still playing ap rammus in the jungle I would imagine the extra ap damage instead of running ad/tank runes would help better instead. I might not be OVERLY noticeable or op, but i will be better than haveing a +0 in the parenthesis. And that's not necessarily true, with the 3 legendary ap items, and some magic pen, you can dfg to 1 shot people with q alone, although by the time you get to that point you will probably be around lv 16 if you're good. Not to mention the damage your w will put out as zhonyas helps with everything Rammus does in his kit (aside from taunt.)