Talk:Ivern/@comment-26688280-20160921003050/@comment-26203093-20160921040738

Karma jungle? Please say it ain't so.

When their peak performance puts them in the middle of the fight, they're usually more tank than support. Nautilus, leona gragas, all perform utility through aggression.

And karma's utility is brute force shielding. That's just being a mage with a shield.