Talk:Fiora/@comment-3493296-20150723014431/@comment-24496127-20150728181208

And I think you seriously just don't like tanks not being able to 1v1 people. Take her to a teamfight, don't 1v1 her as a tank. Problem. Solved. Not all champions need itemization options for counters when their kit contains more than enough weaknesses to cover counterplay. Aside from that, the passive's scaling isn't even finalized since it's on PBE.

I feel like all you're imagining is Fiora running around a tank that's afk, and thinking it's unfair that she kills them quickly when that's literally her role. Trundle, Vayne, Kog, and many other champions do the same thing without having to itemize for it.

If you don't see the problem with a tank taking 15% of your max hp in true damage, then really it's pointlesss to even discuss this farther because you're showing an extreme lack of understanding when it comes to the idea of risk vs reward. Building full damage on Fiora is a risk. ult tanks all you want, if you get cc'd you'll get blown up. Fiora isn't going to just become a braindead hit the procs to win champion, and she certainly won't invalidate a tanks presence unless they decide to make the wrong decision and think they can fight her in a 1v1.

It's like a taric only focusing on healing in hopes he can outdo the enemy Soraka. By doing so he isn't playing to his strengths, and no amount of itemization will make up for the difference. Itemization only goes so far when a champion is constrained by their kit, and that's how it should be to maintain diversity. Fiora's kit excels in duels, and situationally can win a teamfight with perfect circumstances for her ult. She doesn't invalidate tanks, she invalidates dueling her while building full tank, in the same way veigar invalidates fighting him as an AP champion.

Besides all this, you still never adressed that prc'ing her passive is situational, and a Fiora's success is tied directly to her opponent allowing her to do so. If a Malphite slows you and runs, or a Maokai knocks you about, you certainly can't run circles around them. That's STILL ignoring the fact that this is a team game, and the idea that every champion needs to 1v1 every champion is a rather bad way of looking at game design.

TL;DR(because I'm seriously beginning to feel like you don't even read my posts before commenting again) it's a team game, Fiora doesn't invalidate a tanks existence if League is played as a team game rather than a bunch of 1v1's, it takes a while to get to the point her true damage really hurts, and a tanky fiora doing significant true damage will just make her into a stronger Irelia, and the last thing we need is another Irelia.