Talk:Hecarim/@comment-142.167.168.144-20120511012127/@comment-93.228.167.162-20120513181241

i have quite good results with him normals. (iam an average noob) i only play him jungle and noticed he cleans very slow im comparison to others (skarner, malph). on top of that i have less health left after cleaning the jungle then with the others. if dont get a pull i have allways only half of my hp left which is too risky for early ganks. without red i cant gank because the cc of his E is not great and as already mentioned by you guys above its hard to hit the target in the right ankle -> in many situations (everytime enemy is not sleeping and sees you coming) its nearly impossible to land a good hit with it, i think. i often get my kill/assits early but as mentioned not without red, so i have only ~2 tries before it ends and i have use my flash normally. the cd of his e is to high early game. i like this champ pretty much and i dont have problems with him vs noobs like me but i never have an average game with him when enemy team is not bad and plays a little save. there is simply no chance in my op to land early ganks because the cc is no help if you only push ppl back to their own turret but without activating it i cant catch up to land a hit on them.

i think his strength lies in teamfights. i dont agree with ppl here saying he deals no dmg. he deals not much, so far i agree but because of his W and ult and E you have some guarateed hits and the proc of sheen and trinity does enough dmg. he is better to kill squishys because of his mobility but sucks vs other offtanks. i guess you just should take advantage of that to get the squishis with him and get out of the fight, not even trying to kill other bruisers without massive help of allies.

i guess my results are ok because in most normals no one uses wards or ganks the jungler in jungle and so on. probably you get good results with every jungler in that mode.

again iam an average noob and vs ppl with wuards or ppl who play save i have no chance till mid game and fall back because of his lack in reliable cc. and even in mid game all is so ulti reliant that i have to get one blue and red after another to decrease its cd, otherwise i end up falling back even further. i think i would get banned in ranked for doing that.

sry for my long text