User blog comment:Atmey/PBE Karma impressions/@comment-7006769-20130331200044/@comment-3529242-20130401110152

For the third time:

"To all who are complaining on how I am comparing, I am not implying it should be AS good, but it should have relativally similar function or side effect, or at least a MUCH better alternate ability, new Karma excels in nothing, and not only that, many other champions have better utility than her."

Now that is out for the way, passive isn't really effective before you build (max) CDR without it it is pretty impossible to use 2 mantras in a single fight.

Morgana has a combo to follow up after the snare, while Karma can successfully land any of her abilities but won't be able to deal nearly as Morgana's. I compared it to Jayce because it have the same skillshot and AoE on impact,

260 + 0.6AP

435 + 0.9AP (+350 +0.6AP)

280 + 1.2AD

392 + 1.68AD

It is clear Jayce's normal Q deals more damage and has more range, while empowered they are Jayce also wins unless Karma lands her second tick which is easy to walk out from, Karma also uses an ult, while Jayce can use his ult to access 3 more abilities each with it's own CD.

I compared her W to other DoT's (Malz' E not Q), if I am not mistaked, Karma has the weakest DoT in the game.

RE lost it's huge nuke IN LANING, RE was Karma!

It is a decent utility ability but is less not worthy of being an ult, look at Shen's or Sivir's ults, now that is a worthy shield and MS for an ult (again I am not saying it should give 850+1.35AP and the MS boost for 10 seconds, but an idea how ults should be, also implying it needs a buff).