Talk:VPBE/@comment-24896347-20150329014710/@comment-3974211-20150329041711

I was one of the few who mastered Gnar prior to his first set of buffs, and felt astonished that Riot wanted to give him more power. But then again, I was the same with reworked Cassiopeia (to the extent that I still find the changes to her passive a nerf in a lot of games, since I was able to charge it quicker when it was charged on unit-kill).

That said, I haven't got any friends who feel like they're mastering Bard nor is there anyone in my close circle (and most would tell you he's shit if asked). Of all the Bards I've had on my team I've only encountered one that I felt was "great", and was using all his skills optimally (the others felt like... pawns, extra meat for the enemy team to have to get through).

One thing I've found with Bard though is that good plays are more about his enemy being stupid than him being clever (stunning people that follow through Magical Journey, for example). And I often find myself intentionally seeking shelter in enemy Bard ultimates (and I can't decide if they're using it badly, or I'm just abusing it - 'cause champions like Cassiopeia can turn a fight if she gets a moments reprieve).