Talk:Draven/@comment-72.234.62.193-20120610074016/@comment-78.73.17.214-20120610194817

Ashe ties with Graves as a 'babby's first carry' in terms of difficulty. Just because her Ultimate is rewarding doesn't make her harder at all.

Vayne on the other hand is extremely punished for making mistakes, which offsets her ridiculous potential. Draven as well requires more than just proper positioning if one ever wants to maximize his potential. Good luck juggling those axes in teamfights.