Talk:Sion/Strategy/@comment-4393664-20130702104516/@comment-20434720-20140308185706

My experience with jungle Sion has only gone so far as farm-fests in custom games, and his clear is... not really good, but tolerable early.

The main dilemma I face is this: should I buy Wriggle's lantern or Elder Lizard (or maybe even ancient golem for early tenacity)? On the one hand, Wriggle's gold generation is superior and would seem to synergize better with Sion's farm-fest ways, as well as being a generally better early game jungle item for clearing (you need 300+ AD for the damage boost from Spirit items to surpass it!), however Sion's mana costs are huge and when blue is down, he can easily go OOM from farming even if he only uses one W per camp (no Q). The spirit-item line would help with this a lot. On the other hand, the armor, ward, and attack speed from Wriggle's are all huge for Sion...

In other news, did someone say 15min baron solo cheese? The amount of healing and DPS that ult gives is ridiculous... by the time Sion is full build, CC can stop him more than the enemy fountain lazor. (he heals right through that thing...)

And yes, your passive works on jungle creeps - sadly getting hit by a small creep won't deal -20 damage to you though :( You can't shield yourself from your own enrage damage, though, similar to how Morde's shield won't absorb health costs for him.

Also, as Sion is melee range auto-attacker, would you take ghost or flash on him? Personally I would prefer flash (I take MS quints), because I try to avoid diving the enemy back line (just get kited to death) and instead try to peel off the enemies trying to dive my back line - the AOE healing from Sion's ult is really helpful with this, as you can point-click stunlock the enemy diver and proceed to usually out-heal the person being dove, completely negating their damage (assuming it's a Mundo, Shyvana, Vi, etc diving and not like... Zed or Fizz.)

The baron cheese squad: Sion top, fiddle jung, nunu supp, Karthus mid, Vayne (?) adc XD I can see it now! They totally wouldn't see the 15min baron coming!