Talk:Graves/@comment-72.73.39.101-20120629075628/@comment-78.147.235.64-20120703232747

graves is just one in a long line of champs that arent fun to play against but fun to play, that riot refuses to nerf. a while back morde and vlad were very similar. fun to use but a nightmare to play vs.

the reason they arent making big changes to champs right now is season 2 finals are coming soon, and big changes to champions could mean massive changes to the meta and proffessional team comps.

my personal list of these champs is as follows, but pls feel free to add and disagree. ones that are slightly less obvious i have reasons for.

graves, alistar jungle, ahri, morg, kennen (too easy to poke with in lane and nigh impossible to gank), nautilus, lee sin, nocturne, karthus (a strange one as i find him extremely boring), darius, riven, kassadin, jax, SHEN, SHEN (needs saying twice because i mean come on riot), warwick, anivia, ap sion, irelia (when i'm playing ad carry, every single fight it is just "can someone get this irelia off my face", unbelievably annoying.) BLITZCRANK, ad nidalee, ryze.