Board Thread:Help desk/@comment-24633872-20140928194630/@comment-1905446-20141114140333

Sorry for the minor necromancy, but I thought I'd throw in my two cents. I disagree with the assertion that BotRK is for champions with AD scaling. It's best on autoattack-based champions like Tristana or Ashe because its passive only procs off autoattacks. Basically anyone who likes building tons of AS or has and AS steroid will do well with BotRK. Long range helps too, but lots of melee champs do well with it (Yi, Jax, etc.) too. Kog doesn't build it as often because he already has a % health effect on his AAs while his W is active. It's one of the anti-tank items, so any ADC will want it if the enemy tank is being a nuicance. The self-peel from the active is a nice bonus there too.

As Ningami said, top lane Quinn (or anyone) only rushes BotRK if her lane opponent builds health early. One exception might be VS Cho, since he gains a lot of health naturally starting at level 6, plus if he doesn't build RoA first, it will certainly be second or third. Vayne's probably the only ADC who can build BotRK first and not be hurt a lot by it since she uses every stat it gives, including the active for assassinations.

Let's be real, Tristana's a beast to deal with early on for anyone but Lucian and maybe Caitlyn. Not only does her range quickly outstrip most champions, she has the longest range jump in the game and it resets on kill or assist. The nerfs have put her in a less powerful position, but she's still the late game queen. As Riot has said, that's her intended position, just as Lucian's an early and mid game terror who falls off if he doesn't get pretty far ahead.

I feel like Quinn is the only ADC that the Bloodthirster rush is still viable on. Her passive gives her a near equivalent of crits guaranteed every 3 seconds in duels, which is more often than an IE alone should crit with no other items. Sure, IE is still stronger than BT on her too, but BT gives Quinn the safety she needs early on and builds faster, especially if you do the Long Sword + 3 Heath Potions start. IE can come second if you're doing well, or you can go straight to another defensive item like Mercurial Scimitar or Maw of Malmortius if you're getting a lot of AP attention. If the damage you're taking is AD, you can get Warden's Mail before continuing on to the rest of your build, and then sell it later when you want your MR item (you only lose 14 more gold doing this than buying and selling a Chain Vest (230 vs 216 gold loss overall) and it will annoy the enemy ADC to no end).

As for going bot lane with Quinn in general, just remember that she's essentially still a top lane bruiser at heart and loves to split push and pick targets off in the mid to late game. You may do better with another AD threat on your team and just building as if you were in the top lane. Quinn and Urgot are even more niche picks in the bot lane than they are in the top lane. Quinn's ability to interrupt channels with her E can be invaluable against MF or Cait in the bot lane, and she's a really solid pick against a team with multiple channels, like a Karthus mid and Fiddlesticks jungle. There's nothing more satisfying than interrupting a skill with a 120 second cooldown with one that is back up in 10 :D