Talk:Zed/@comment-8733289-20150116020348/@comment-15280970-20150116041259

Death Mark already has a lot of counterplay, Early lvls death mark doesn't deal a lot of damage, later on you can buy items to counter it. A lot of champions already have on-target nukes that are instant and lack those seconds of counterplay.you are pretending to make AN ULTIMATE extremely countereable.

The problem isn't death mark damage. The reactivation shadow allows zed to just all in any squishy without any concern because he can get out of there at any time. Then he doesn't even need to do any effort to kill his target, he just has to BOTRK Active - autoattack the enemy until that shuriken pops above his head and even if then the target doesn't die he just follows up until it Does and then he presses R and he's out.

Zed's don't even use W shadow to dodge some important skillshot or to get the mimicked skill's damage/cc, they use it as a gapcloser to get into the range where they can ult the enemy AD carry.

So at the end, this "high skill cap champion", with some items (including infinity EDGE even if some guys here think it is a bad item while pro's build it every time) becomes a 40s kill enemy carry bot.