Talk:Rengar/@comment-13750767-20130817222339/@comment-13750767-20130818182140

@Neyrokrai

I never said he was fine in his current state. If he were, he wouldn't warrant buffs or a rework. You're twisting my words for the sake of your own argument. If you want to make a point, quote me in the context I made my original post.

Rengar is not a faceroll champ now. He was in the past, but not anymore. Now he CAN become that at the moment, but only if he's utterly fed, and anyone does well then. What I meant when I said people want a faceroll was that they want a "right click + press one button and get a free kill" experience, because they feel strong doing it. You can't argue that Rengar is an easy champ to play, compared to true assassins like Zed, Talon, or even Le Blanc, who rely on setting up, coordination, and timing if they want to kill and live to gloat about it. Rengar on release could do that without even thinking. Now, he's either fed enough to gib someone and walk away laughing (Darius mentality) or he isn't, and he can't bring himself back into the game because of how much weaker he is now than he used to be.

And FYI, I do own and play Rengar, and Kha, and most assassins and AP mids regularly (ADC is my least played role). I bought him the day he was released because of his advertised strength and ability to gib. I knew he was broken when I bought him, but I didn't care. I wanted to enjoy playing the broken champ before he got nerfed. It was the same with Darius on release. I get who's broken because I know they won't be for long. Now that his moment of glory has passed, he has to be balanced, and that CANNOT happen with him packing stealth, a leap, and ridiculous burst all in the same package.

They're lowering his burst, raising his DPS and tankiness, and letting him keep the leap. If that means losing stealth, fine by me. It just means that in situations such as team fights where I would previously have needed stealth to run or gib a main target, I'm now more likely to be able to do it upfront. Gibbing someone is one thing, but doing it with no skill required and no chance for them to react is not okay.