Talk:Fizz/@comment-29875109-20170511220859/@comment-24496127-20170514092858

TF vs Fizz.

Waveclear. Waveclear hard. Don't touch the fizz, don't go close to the Fizz, and hug your tower. Make his only option to hit you a long range shark, and either build an ludens and tier 2 boots to dodge the shark, or a Zhonya's to eat it. If you take this option, however, you need to stay under tower.

Your oppertunities to trade happen only if he uses his E to clear the minion waves at tower. At that point, you can zone with a stun card. Your Q is your best friend in this match up, and getting an extra early doran's ring can let you use it liberally enough to outpush him. Focus on out roaming him, and the game should be fairly easy. Fizz, like any assassin, capitalizes on mistakes, so long as he isn't super fed.

Building ROA is honestly kind of a mistake, it won't give you the health to survive him, or the manuverability to dodge his ult. An ult which, if your movespeed is too low, has a really nasty habit of jumping onto you without you having much chance of dodging. I would only try it on someone like Leblanc, who has a movement ability that can dodge the fish, since the extra HP could stop his QW from oneshotting you. If you get hit by the fish, you're dead. Think of the possible ways he could apply the fish, and play in a way that minimizes those possibilites. That's how you win this matchup, late game, TF vs an AP Fizz can practically take half his health away with one Q. If you can get to that point without feeding, that's when you know you've won the lane.