Talk:Veigar/@comment-4167645-20150303032852

New Veigar being unable to punish people that get too close means that everyone is going to try and dive on Veigar. It used to be that E was your counter to being engaged on, and if you failed that then Veigar would just die. Now that anybody with mobility or even fast enough movespeed WILL cause E to fail means that Veigar will just die.

If : E fail = Death

E delay + mobility creep = E fail

E delay + mobility creep = Death