Talk:Wukong/@comment-202.177.218.59-20111022055454/@comment-202.177.218.59-20111023000959

You fail at math bro. Per second, Garen's spin does more damage than Wukong's ult. At max rank, Garen's spin does 210 base damage per second. Wukon'g ult does 100 base damage per half a second at max rank so 200 base damage per second. Garen's spin has a higher base damage per second. Garen also has a higher ratio for his spin. Wukong's ult is 0.6 AD per half second (so 1.2 per second). Garen's spin has a ratio of 1.4 (0.2 scaling higher) and is affected by crit. The only thing better damage wise is that Wukong's ult spins 1 second longer, but Garen has the higher DPS (damage per second). Wukong's main utility for his ult is the throwup, but i'm really not sure if that justifies the massive cooldown that comes with being an ult.

So as a said, if he's gonna be an ability champ increase his ratios or decrease their cooldown. if auto attack dps then increase his steroid buff. at the moment he does a bit of everything but doesn't excel at any one of them.