Talk:Trundle/@comment-5649293-20121117015729/@comment-90.181.98.196-20121118114511

or that his ganks suck eyeballs compared to *used* junglers. His Q does basically nothing (AA reset on tank...trololo). His passive is nonexistent past first few jungle clears. And while his W is freaking AMAZING it still is area based and countered by...lets say moving. His ult works against him, since if the target dies he will lose the defensive stats. He just doesnt offer anything other champs do better than them.