Talk:Udyr/@comment-24241164-20141012174715/@comment-24241164-20141012221306

see but thats the thing.... what is the point of a farmed udyr late game when there are other picks that do the same thing late game only better, not to mention are actually kinda able to gank is absolutely necessary. skarner, trundle and jax are champs that, imo, just do everything udyr is known for but infinitely better. the only one of the three that udyr has a chance of 1v1ing is skarner, and thats just cause skarner has no way of sustaining mid fight, nor does he scale well with many sustain items. all 3 of these champs do way more late game. a trundle pillar is actually a very underated team fight tool, skarner impale is godlike for picks, and everyone knows the dangers of lategame jax. if ones argument is "udyr can counter jungle them" then i say that trund would smash him if he got caught in an invade, and skarner and jax would as well if they were 6.