Talk:Riven/@comment-96.254.173.229-20120328090229

Go into a practice game and try out AP riven. It's much more viable than you think, although it's absolute garbage until late game. Deathcap, abyssal sceptre, Lich Bane, Rylai's, Ninja Tabi, Atma's really can do work as her q will slow even though it's physical damage, and you'd have around 480 ap (with no runes or masteries) and around 150 attack damage (again, with no runes and masteries). Your hp would be around 2.4~2.5k and the LIch Bane proc is lower than two seconds, unlike the tri force is. with a deathcap, you're easily able to get more AP than you can dream of AD on riven, and you can still hold your own in a team fight. Just try it in a custom game, maybe not getting atma's in the first game, but getting void staff instead for it.