Talk:Elise/@comment-81.51.16.158-20121216163910/@comment-81.51.16.158-20121218022310

my current elise support  build :

1) runes

mpen marks

flat armor seals

mr/level glyphs

flat health quints

the mpen for magic damage

the armor because you're up against an ADC and support

the mr/level because i don't get merc

the flat health:  i feel like it's a LOT stronger in lane then  ap quints with her ap ratios

masteries :

i go 0/16/14  getting armor  health and minion damage reduction + champ AA damage reduction in defense

and movespeed/mana regen and  gold masteries in utility

def is to trade with the ADC  and utility to constantly poke and zone

i start with cristalline flash and 3 wards + 1 mana and 1 health pot

first item = sightstone

then sorc boots

then haunting guise

ruby sightstone

rilay (start giant's belt)

then i often get liandry ( useful only once you get rilay slow to make it  stronger)

and i finish with a runic bullwark

the fun part is i feel like it deals TONS of damage in mid game ( if i catch the ADC iwth my fulll comob  he has to run low health or die)

and this tanky build allows me to be the one to engage after a successfull snare     and E before dying as spider to  leave

i honestly have lots of fun with elise support and often get more gold then the jungler

what are your thoughts ( elise players) on the build, i know there's no aegis or zeke, but let's be honest,  i deal as much damage as the rest of the team while having utility and being   not too squishy ,  i think   aegis would not match rilay's slow for the team and often jungler or top can do it, and zeke gives me nothing so it cripples me more then anything  it's more of a 5th fighter build then a true support, but i do ward take oracle often and   leave the cs to the adc so i think it's good.

(i know abyssal is great on elise but it's cost  is too high imo for a support  in mid game i prefer haunting guise and focus the ones with 50ish mr to nuke through true damage)