Talk:Tryndamere/@comment-70.29.63.112-20120707194920/@comment-70.29.63.112-20120708011248

OP here. I know Tryn has counters, that he needs items, and that he's predictable. None of that helps when you're already committed to a teamfight and he shows up, crits everything, and soaks up your team's damage and CC only to heal back after his ult.

Also, he's very far from useless mid game. A Tryn with 'Zerks, PD and Wriggle's is already effective enough to get kills

A lot of people who play melee carries seem to have this attitude that they should just automatically win any equal fight they commit to if they play well enough. The reality is that mid-game Tryn, like Yi or Xin, needs to fight intelligently and pick his battles like every. other. champion. This does not make him UP.

Oh, and then there's the fact that, lategame, he can win 1v2 even against opponents who know what they are doing. Or the fact that he obliterates toplaners who cannot kite, whether in lane or dueling.