Talk:Shyvana/@comment-5605969-20130903031117/@comment-12746291-20130903112344

First and formost, where is your FM? Personally,everything is expendible on her except FM since she constantly needs to be on melee range to win her trades.

After that, you have to understand that the more armour or mr you buy,the less effective it's gonna get. if 100 mr will block 50 percent of the damage, 200 won't block a 100. It will have a diminishing effect thus focusing on some hp is a good way to go. But that doesn't mean your armour won't pay off at all.

My core is usually either BOTRK,FM,Wits end,Randuin's,Mercury or Swiftness depending on the type of CC they have and either PD or simply a Banshee(For ganking and chasing and being a hunter) or Hydra,Maw,Randuin's,FM or Sunfire and either gaurdian or  simply what I need to emphesise on along with a zypher(Strictly for teamfights and causeing AOE havoc.)

Either case,I feel pretty tanky.

And the reason Trudle feels tankier than you is likely because the Trundle will be tankier than you. Atleast momentrily. After all Trundle is all about sustain and stealing defensive stats.

And finally,no. being tankier takes priority. So all you really need is a cutlass or taimat and then go for something like Sunfire if they usually come for you or a FM if you constantly need to go after them. After you have your FM or Sunfire,you can complete the BOTRK or Hydra and go for it's like Wits end or Maw which give you offense and defense stats. Then itemize as you like.