Talk:Quinn/@comment-5605969-20130722211000

I've been playing ADC Quinn every time i need to ADC (unless team comp doesnt allow it) and after a while I have to ask: what is so good abot her ulti that is worth keeping you there?

Here's what I mean: in ranged form your passive deals dmg every 3.5s (assuming you are proc-ing it every time u can) which at level 9 starts dealing good dmg, and after hitting 15 it feels like a brick. With E you can proc it another time (if it doesn't decide to bug and not mark) This is the main reason why her E's base damage is so low and scaling is so poor. This is the base ability. The total ability damage involves proc-ing the passive, which won0t happen in her Ulti form. Let's see the benefits. Valor gives you more MS than in Quinn form, but Quinns proc gives you flat MS. Gives double AS buff, which doesn't compensate for dmg lost from proc. Ulti second cast is irregular and needs a cap (something like at 20%hp or below, it will deal full dmg)

So the only 2 possible solutions here are giving Valor form ability scalings better AD scalings, or give Valor form a percentage of the abillity as on hit dmg. Something like 33% on every AA, or full proc every 3rd or 4th AA. It would increase the dueling potential she has and make Valor more appreciated. I mean, unlike the other morphers, Valor gets nothing in return outside roaming potential (split pushing godess) and AS (bursting an enemy down before 3.5s after mark is trigered).

I do love Quinn, and her Ulti burst is high, but I just think she needs an incentive to be in Valor more, as it is quite... underpowered (see her scalings).