Talk:Vladimir/@comment-3251806-20111206120928/@comment-3251806-20111206221150

fiddle is not completely based on drain. CAWCAWCAW remember? Besides, fiddle is a support mage with his fear and silence, Vlad is a ap fighter. Also, fiddle is limited to mana, not vlad. Most forms of cc stop fiddles drain anyway, nothing stops vlad(except ignite)