Talk:Riven/@comment-4834593-20150107184527/@comment-4834593-20150113202338

It gives like 30 AD. IE gives 80. And the attack speed is absolutely useless because after every autoattack, you will want to use an ability (and the other way around) and by that time the next autoattack is already ready, even without bonus attack speed.

IE gives more crit than Youmuu, so you countered yourself there.

And the 20 arpen is nearly nothing compared to LW. Against a champion WITHOUT bonus armor LW already gives like 30 penetration, which, indeed, does mean that YG is still nearly as good on that point. However, against a target with that little armor you don't need armor penetration to 100-0. The ones you need it against will have at least 200 armor, meaning you'll penetrate like, 70-80 with LW. That 20 from Youmuu's isn't gonna do a whole lot on top of that.