Talk:Leona/@comment-92.200.108.130-20120126013734/@comment-92.200.106.139-20120126154611

Dat passive... yea its quite bad. Her base burst including her passive on all spells is 140*4+990=1550 which seems impressive on paper but this will hardly ever happen, because you want to go dash->nearly stun immediately, maybe even with followup ult. So your base Burst is about 1270 (assuming 2 sunlight procs). And sunlight procs in general: given her high cds you will probably proc it about 4 times in 10 secs max with cdr and good timing. 4*140/10=56. 56 dps. Which is fucking terrible. And ofc i was assuming duo bot support. Solo top is a troll pick. "She is like the opposite of Sejuani, she is meant to stun not slow enemies" yes, i know. But fact is, that sejuani does stun 3+ people with a well timed ult easily while leona does stun 2 with her ult if she's super lucky. Compare her for instance with blitz who's one of the other tanky duobot support. Her q is outclassed by his fist. Her dash is outclassed by his grab. She's got a comparably weak shield while blitz has good a dps/ms steroid. Needless to say, blitz passive is a lot better. The only part where she is marginally better is her ult but considering the extremely low cd on blitz ult, even this is not quite ensured. Or even compare her to alistar. He sustains your carry. Headbut+stun is a lot more potent than dash->q. His passive deals less dmg but its better because of avoided movement collision. And comparing his ult to her ult... yea.... Also Im a bit sad about how you just told me what you like about her instead of addressing anything of what i pointed out. The problem is: despite being a tank, she doesnt have any hard aoe-cc (ult doesnt count, you hardly ever stun more than one person with it against half-decent players).