Talk:Talon/@comment-7846894-20130604204556/@comment-5779359-20130608085531

I don't know what your problem is with him, i usually get a kill with him at level 3 mid, level 4-5 top and level 4 bot. For new players on him or those who are inexperianced with him, just learn his ranges and mana costs first.

I mean i find that at top you can essentially blink from a bush, Q, W AA and get back to the bush before they can get an abilty down (if they follow me into MY BUSH they are just asking for another W and Q) but i guess i can't really help you, i've played him so much that I can get a build with AP and still trash with him (not even kidding i messed my runes and masteries up with him once, went on-hit AP and got a triple) i just find this combo works well on him:

E, W, R, Q, AA, Q (W for the 10% extra on top of the 15% from E) or E, Q, R, W, AA, Q. Although i do this with a set up of +8 armor pen flat from masteries and 12 from runes, with 10% from runes and masteries with an added about 12 flat AD from runes and 3 from masteries, plus 10 from Long Sword to start off. i get an almost sure kill on any target from mid or bot lane with this set up and items of LW and BC, no BT (those come later for me).

I mean come on if you cannot E to a champion, tap the R button, then tap W while aiming it at your victim, auto attack them then Q to finish up in 1.5 - 2 seconds, try a different champion.