Talk:Kayle/@comment-25304344-20151117105806/@comment-24082016-20151117153433

The only Poke person I had trouble with was Anivia, and that was after lvl 6, and me experimenting that matchup. It's always a good idea to get W lvl 2 by lvl 5. It's as simple at that.

If anything, you should be strong as fck with Kayle now in early game. Vlad wasn't an issue before(given the enemy jungler isnt in ur lane constantly) and he's even less of a problem now that corrupted potion exists. Corrupted potion makes your DPS returned damage hellishly effective against people who go in on you but need to retreat eventually. So as long as you can setup a situation were they need to retreat against you, or that they tunnel in on you but can't get off the crucial but of their damage, you'll not only chunk them out hard with the kiting+chasing return dmaage, but often times you'll get a kill or force them out of lane.

I personally dont go for 3 dorans. I usually just get corrupted, then first back i get dorans and codex bc I like my cdr showing earlier so I can harrass harder and rotate in an additonal Q blast much earlier in exchanges. But I'm not gonna knock on 3 dorans. 3 Dorans have proven very effective for a number of champs like Diana and Syndra. It's ridiculous how much damage they can put out with just that(and maybe a sorc boots) in early/midgame, but that also comes down to the fact that they have pretty good AP ratios unlike Kayle.

Anyways, that's my take on it. You really shouldnt be having trouble vs a Ryze. It's called fighting within the minions, and denying him followup chains during his ult. After Laning phase, if you've played it right, you'll have enough damage output to 1v1 Ryze given you KNOW how to fight a Ryze using Kayle.