Talk:Gragas/@comment-5077844-20141206172501

why not pick him as a countersupport? He can completely deny engages in lane, can lock down immobile carries (twitch and kog and such), gets free damage on W if mayed first, as well as deent poke on Q if amxed first. He has in built sustain and an escape (which is a luxury on supports) and generally scales eery well, even as full tank.

Sure, it won't always work, especially vs very kite-heavy lanes, but other than that he seems pretty good.

I just playded it, but it was vs Jinx and a malphite supp, so more or less ideal conditions...have to try it in a less optimal setting again