Talk:Nocturne/@comment-7599556-20130905131755/@comment-4019444-20130914052957

I'm only Gold II so take this with a grain of salt.

As to jungling, I go the normal Machete + 5 Health Pots. After a run of farming/ganking (whichever option is most available to me) I get components towards a Spirit of the Ancient Golem. Spirit of the Elder Lizard isn't good, honestly. It gives bonus AD, sure, but Noc has that built-in steroid. The true damage will fall off over time and (unlike Hecarim) you can't apply that DoT to many targets at once. Golem offers survivability. It's better to deal consistent damage which may not be all that high versus dealing ZOMGWTF damage but blowing up. Wriggle is kinda lackluster and Noc is quite mana-intensive so you need Spirit Stone.