Talk:Quinn/@comment-4022742-20140325123140/@comment-12314620-20140416231309

Although I don't play Quinn top regularly and instead prefer to take her bot I prefer holding onto my E quite often: using E carelessly will often place you into minionwave possibly losing you the trade, it also should be remembered that using E offensively blows your escape, a good jungler will note this pattern and abuse it (don't start with "but I can use heightened sences to scout, would be stupid argument considering the cooldowns and the fact you are actually maxing vault). IIRC maxing Q doesn't increase blind duration however the increased damage improves your lane control with easier lasthitting under the turret and increased pushing potential. Q also has considerably higher range than E making it more reliable for poke while still holding onto your escape as well as getting that final hit to finish a fleeing opponent. My own preference is currently maxing W over E for 2 reasons; After trying both approaches I feel that the increase in sustained damage and utility offered by heightened senses far outweights the extra burst that maxing harrier provides. Better self peel feels like a valid argument, my own experience however suggests that the movement speed provided by heightened senses easily makes up for it since you can have it up practically all the time in teamfights and duels. With proper microing maxing W also makes you turretpushing faster (both as Valor and as Quinn) and safer (increased MS means easier to put some distance to enemies, easier to dodge long range surprise skillshots...).

Also I find it difficult to grasp why people are ranting about passive procs. Top it should be very easy to constantly haras your opponent when he tries to go lasthit. Most times using E on them will just place you into their minion wave, not a place you want to be for a trade. If you keep using aa:s for haras in my own experience valor will be very eager to mark enemy champion as a target forcing either a proc or them lose cs, in both cases you will be rewarded. In my own opinion E is just too unreliable tool for maxing on lane (similiar to maxing Arcane Shift first as Ezreal).