Talk:Fizz/@comment-90.201.41.57-20120728121519/@comment-5151680-20120803224424

fizz level 2 : Q/W taken 

jungler ganks: you can get a kill, without ignite getting a kill on a level 2-3 gank is much harder because after CC usually they'll flash away 

If you get killed at level 2 agaisnt a fizz with ignite, then you're bad enough to lose to a fizz without ignite, even if fizz does get a gank from his jungler. It's that simple. Fizz is extremely weak until lvl 3, and still isn't strong until 4.

And who the heck gets Q/W first on fizz? Unless you're jungling, you should always get E first. E-Q-W-W-W-R-W-E-W-E-R-E-E-Q-Q-R-Q-Q for laning, and for jungling, it should start W-E-Q-W-""..."".

''using ignite on blue buff is retarded. ''

look at the CD on ignite man: having it or not can make you get or miss a kill wether when the other mid gets ganked or when the other gank and go retard dive mode 

Ignite only has a 3 minute base cooldown, meaning it will be back up before the 5 minute mark, which is when kills really start happeneing, because fizz is now lvl 4-5.

If you need ignite to get a kill, then you should just wait for another W-Q-E combo. If you dove and discover that you can't do enough damage without ignite, than you shouldn't be diving in the first place, period.

Poke your opponent hard until level 6, and then go in for the kill.

If your top is a ranged character, then yes, by all means, he should be leashing. But if your top character is say, a garen, then you should be the one leashing, and ignite is the safest way to do so.