Talk:Jarvan IV/@comment-180.215.3.2-20120513111146/@comment-3477331-20120513152643

Shyvana depends on teammates picking cc. If they don't, she'll often not be able to gank well. If she jungles, that's mostly clearing her jungle and annoying the enemy jungler. Trundle has lost a bit of his jungling power with the jungle change and isn't really that strong top, I think. His ganks are better than Shyvanas and just like her, he likes to annoy the enemy jungler. Jarvan has very good ganking tools and can lane quite well. He can also vary his build a lot, he can go very offensive, yet eh can also go full tank. Renekton is the best laner of them all, but weakest of them lategame and is pretty bad for jungling. Ratehr then Renekton you should go for Riven if you want an offensive AD stacker. She has better clear times and ganks about as well, being about as strong in lane.

So I'd also go with Jarvan...