Talk:Tryndamere/@comment-5.83.71.124-20121205154904/@comment-37.110.90.163-20121213182931

Imo Shiv is a midgame item. Its basicaly a smaller PD with passive for clearing jungle/waves. Its handy that now you can get a good crit-as item early without ending up with too few AD to make crit cost efficient. Later just sell it for PD. I wouldnt recommend getting both, or two PDs tho. Too much crit is to much crit.