Talk:Udyr/@comment-86.93.42.202-20120614131730

okay i have a question. I did some math between tiger stance and phoenix stance with no items the stances on lvl 5. Phoenix stance does slightly more damage in the first 5 seconds than tiger stance, but also the persistant effect from Phoenix stance is stronger, has more dps. Only the first hit for tiger stance is stronger than Phoenix stance after that Phoenix becomes stronger. I also did a fight with my friend he did Phoenix and i did tiger both lvl 9 maxed lvl of the stance, both no items. First it seemed i would win but after my first hit phoenix started beating me and before i could do another DoT hit i was dead.

So, why would you lvl tiger stance over phoenix, while Phoenix has higer dps, and aoe, faster clearing times etc. And Tiger only has the advantage of the first hit?