Talk:Warwick/@comment-25218650-20170111111817/@comment-25037679-20170113024129

Sure, Titanic Hydra is nice on Warwick. I'm not convinced about the Cleaver, though.

A lot of people on here are, for some reason or another, building around optimizing Warwick for when his enemies are below 20%, where he's at the attack speed cap even without any items. They use this reasoning to say you shouldn't build attack speed items on him, which seems pretty ridiculous to me. It's like building Pantheon around when his enemies are below 15% health-who gives a damn? They're gonna die either way if they're that low.

Hell, with the Titanic Hydra + Cleaver build, I've done the math.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eusNcftx_gl8fVuKCE442nOB1cKFvWWqXjWGhMbBwuI/edit?usp=sharing (feel free to make a copy and mess with it yourself to see)

You have inferior DPS to Titanic + Wit's if you assume both Wits and Cleaver are automatically stacked. That is to say, Wit's End pairs better with Titanic Hydra than Cleaver does, giving more dps at 20% to 100% health values on a tanky target, for 600 less gold.

This might not hold true as long as the target is stacking MR, but then why are you building Cleaver if they aren't stacking armor? Why not get a Trinity Force or a Blade of the Ruined King? Cleaver is just an absolute waste of an item on Warwick is the answer. Don't buy it, unless maybe you're pairing it with every physical damage onhit item in the game, Bloodrazor, Botrk, Titanic, and Sheen. Then it might actually be cost effective.