Talk:Shaco/@comment-3463132-20150627033912/@comment-8267817-20150819042405

I actually don't counterjungle much as Shaco unless I'm really far ahead, people are so paranoid about the counter jungle they don't expect the Season 2 strat of start red then murder mid lane as a level 2 Shaco at 2 minutes by deceiving over the wall near chickens, dropping a box behind them and perma slowing them to death, ignite if necesssary, if they flash just gank again as soon as they show up in lane. Can't tell you how many times I've gotten first blood before 2:30 with that strategy and thrown the entire enemy team on tilt because they were so paranoid guarding their jungle that when you weren't there they didn't know how to react.

There are two main Shaco types that are actually good in the jungle, the first mercilessly ganks all laning phase and makes every lane rediculously strong (That's my type by the way, how's it goin'), or the ones that make sure the enemy jungler doesn't see the light of day until 25 minutes in when they are finally able to get their ult. Assess your lanes, if your lanes have a weaker early game chances are he will counter jungle you so hard you won't see anything beyond your first buff if you aren't stupidly dilligent about warding because his team will always be too pushed for ganks, if your team has any lane that has a stronger early game than their opponent that's what he is going to hit, and he's going to hit hard, he is basically required to stop a snowball before it can happen because he has no real snowball potential on his own. Ward in non pro-approved places, no Shaco in their right mind (Which is funny considering it's Shaco we're talking about) is going to ever gank from the river. If you've ever seen Shaclone or Mr White Crow playing you know what I am talking about, they never go into the bushes near mid lane, it's actually less efficient to do that because of the risk of it being warded and you wasting any amount of your early game power by failing to kill someone.

Tl;Dr this section isn't real, read the post, it is all relevant information for how to actually deal with Shaco along with a suggestion of how to research a good Shaco's play style to know what the hell a good Shaco even does, any Shaco can counter jungle, good Shacos know what to do apart from counter jungling.