Talk:Maokai/@comment-3184542-20110504134541/@comment-3184542-20110522115329

I beg to Differ...Natural tankyness is enough to get in close and burst down enemies. You haven't really thought of the idea of Bruiser Mages. The ones that have about 1 ability which makes them tanky enough to charge in like a mad man. Maokai has his Passive and His ultimate, so no need to shit on him with tank items. Alistar has his ultimate and heal spamming, so no need to shit on him with tank items. They deal intense amounts of damage and can still soak up damage. If you go Hybrid or Full Tank on these types of mages then its a waste, people like Shen are tanks because they scale better by getting tank items and acting like a tank. People like Maokai don't benefit from this, they lose the high damage they have been given and sit around acting as if they can take damage. Sure stack tank items on them, they're still not going to be a good tank. It's like my arguement with Galio, he has 1 bit of CC every 2 minutes or so and people think that must mean he's a tank. If you want a tank choose someone who was designed to accomplish that role. Don't choose someone who was designed for a different role like Maokai, Maokai's ulti does have damage reduction, but that's for teammates, not neccesarily him. If any mage feels like they don't deal enough burst, buy a Deathfire's Grasp. And per you part where you said their primary role was to "Soak up damage" Their primary role is to disrupt and deal high amounts of damage to the enemy team, while being able to support their allies. Now rethink your arguement more than Damage Reduction = Tank, if you think about it it counters your comment about them being squishy, thats the whole point that they have those abilities retard.