Talk:Riven/@comment-77.251.227.94-20120515212938/@comment-5009341-20120518152656

^u mean early till lvl 3? rene needs all 3 skills to be strong early and there is no way to achieve this before lvl 3, but once riven reaches lvl 3 its bg, cause then she becomes stronger then u... fair isnt it

it would be somewhat fair riven had the damage and cc she has now when her abilities would consume fury (which means all her abilities damage and cc going down and becomes only avaible if she has +50 fury)

but then all would cry that she is up (even though she would be balanced, cause balanced is considered up (from 52% win chance without mastering the champ to 50% win chance with being uberpro)