Talk:Cho'Gath/@comment-26162917-20151218204338/@comment-25532677-20151225070702

Chogath has to be in closer range than Veigar to get off his full potential damage, meaning he can't just touch and go like Veigar can. Veigar's CC can trap targets, whereas Cho'gath's Q you can simply walk out of. Veigar's purpose isn't to CC. His job it to burst carries from the backline. If Cho builds Hp, then his damage won't scale.

Cho has a cast time of rough .2 - .4 second cast time on his Q followed by the .625 time it takes to activate so it's around .8 seconds.

Veigar's W does 5 less base damage than Cho's Q, which vei can easily acquire from last hitting 5 minions with his Q.

Cho'gath has to choose between being squishy or tanky. Since there are very few options where you can acquire both AP and defensive stats he is either tanky but has no damage to back him up or lot's of damage but no way to defend himself.

So it's either Be squishy and burst immoble champs while every assassin putting it up your butt. Or, being tanky and becomming an unreliable CC bot with every assassin trying to put it up your teammate's butt as you desperately try to hit your CC on them.