Talk:Jinx/@comment-22964237-20131013031046/@comment-5955640-20131013053746

Jinx has the different ult. They scale from AD. Not unlike most other Marksman ults. The scaling off health and it being ranged makes it very different. Espescially the part where it builds damage the further it goes. That's more akin to Ashe's ult where it stuns for a length based on the distance it traveled.

Graves is a ranged Conical skillshot that does one point of damage making them quite different in pretty much every regard except for the AD scaling. Graves's ult does not get stronger the further it goes it just dispenses two different types of damage but no target gets both. Better is also a tenuous thing to say.

For one thing. If a low health target is taking refuge behind a tank Jinx's ult is entirely blocked assuming they aren't standing to the person shouldering the blow. For Graves. He can intentionally shoot the tank to make the cone spread wide enough to hit his target with very little chance of them escaping it.

In either case neither ult has a chance of being waste worthy so they are situational and different. Not more or less powerful than the other.