Talk:Riven/@comment-78.150.106.48-20130315084622/@comment-92.21.143.191-20130316003255

"against armour heavy oposition  get randuins and atmas"

My bad i meant against heavy PHYSICAL ATTACK damage teams, you want this build ionan boots, zekes herald,  black cleaver, frozen mallet, atmas, randuins.

Don't forget that the atmas impaler with the amount of sheer health you will have with this build nets you around 65 attack damage not to mention crits combined with the black cleaver armour reduction/penetration and rivens passive. so bonus attack damage is about 165. Bruisers are set up in such a way in general where you don't need to build squishy ad items to do good damage (such as bloodthirster) in my experience you build any item like that you will get dropped so quickly in a teamfight even with the build i use i at times don't feel tanky enough in teamfights to not get immediately dropped so whatever build you are using will likely cause you to die very often.

The tenacity in the defence tree isn't necessary because if they cc'd you well you are ultra tanky and usually one cc isn't enough to kill you anyway this just means they didn't cc a squishy on your team which likely means the teamfight is won for you if they are wasting cc on riven.

Against tankier opponents the build doesn't change because a) they can't kill you, you are too fast anyways and they lack damage being tanky, b) they aren't your targets as always focus the squishiest down first, the amount of ad you have is easily enough to drop a squishy champion with low armour and because of the maxed cooldown you become a proper nuisance in teamfights.

Anyways this is just my subjective view and i've had much success, so YEP i might be wrong but you should give my build a shot :) once you max out cooldown there's no going back, with your 3.6 second stuns and unlimited dashes and 30 second ultimate.