Talk:Riven/@comment-3546228-20141219013244/@comment-14081808-20141229184609

^That's the point. The exact, OMFG point. You aren't going to win. Going against Riven is like playing Mundo: you aren't trying to win, you are just there to NOT lose. You aren't going to likely find a champ that says "pfft Riven? I eat her for breakfast". That everyone keeps asking is getting a bit annoying.

How does Riven usually get fed? Champ kills. If you only die once or twice in lane and manage to get a kill yourself, consider it a job well done. You DIDN'T feed, which is what makeeps Riven extremely dangerous in the mid-late game: she so far ahead that there really isn't any chance of coming back. She is kind of the premier fighter of Lol, like Soraka is the premier healer. What sense does it make trying to beat her at her specialty? Answer: None.

That said, if you CAN choose a champion with some decent re-engage, do so and play carefully (ooh Karma sounds nice too). If not, let her push you to turret and last hit as you can. She certainly doesn't want to engage there unless she is sure she can get the kill. Ward tri-bush instead of trying to get to river because the LAST thing you need is jungler support from brush between turrets. Don't worry too much about losing your tower, it's an objective that was likely to go down at some point, but don't just give it up unless you have to either. Only initiate when it's ABSOLUTELY CLEAR that you have a major advantage (such as turret). And remember that it's not your goal to win, but simply not to lose.