Talk:Zilean/@comment-25532677-20151217221942

So I'm not sure about thunderlord's on Zilean. On paper, it looks pretty good, it gaves you that little oomph you need to 100-0 people without having to run ignite. But the fact that you have to throw an auto into the mix makes it super unsatisfying unlike performing a combo as syndra or talon. I've never had issues getting the stun off but the fact you put yourself at risk by getting that close to so many mages and assassins that will destroy you after the 1.5 timeframe wears out makes it super risky.

The only reason I really grab thunderlords is because I liked the 45% cdr on him, but as I play more and more, I start to feel like the 45% cdr is not worth it and it's better to grab the penetration. I also like the sound of Deathfire Touch since it gives persistent damage and you don't have to wait for a cooldown.