Talk:Jax/@comment-5763148-20131117134727/@comment-13160526-20131118011608

The nooblord term has always been in LoL for ages, have you ever seen Pro as heck guides? Check Master Yi's (These guides are made for fun and obviously aren't serious at all xD).

+Leyrann

I wouldn't really call Riven squishy, seeing her stats aren't that bad and how spammable her shield is.

It's not about her mechanics, it's all about how she has no worries or fears to spam her abilities which also have really low cd (outside Q which is fair since it's uses are multiple, gapcloser\damage\cc where the damage part has HUGE ratio and base damage.)

She doesn't have to manage mana to decide which spell she has to use at the right time to maximize the efficiency of her resource usage whereas other champions like Talon do.

I have been told that Talon would have been OP without mana, he was actually very strong on release where his manacosts were quite low and his mana regen outrageously high, he had little worries and he didn't have to think twice about poking the enemy down with W since he would almost never run out of mana.

Bad players will fail less with champions like Garen or riven, they are pretty straight forward, the fact of being resourceless makes these kind of champs less frustrating to play as, so newcomers don't really have to worry about managing resources so they can spam freely without limitations.

Honestly i don't get how people are crying about Riven now when she has ALWAYS been this strong, Good bases, huge shield from building damage only, mobility, huge ratios and 2 forms of free CC, damage mostly oriented versus AoE, AD enhancer ult with aoe EXECUTE, on top of that good atk speed per level to perfectly synergize with her ridicoulous passive which in my opinion is far understimated (By bandwagoners mostly, they NEVER auto between their Q casts or spells in general, that's where your beloved bad Rivens are), and the before mentioned being resourceless which makes the perfect AD melee caster.

What if Talon was manaless with lower CDs and had an actual passive? Hmm.

I'm sure she is one of the most noobfriendly champ to start with, and later with time and practice you can use her to her full potential.