Talk:Veigar/@comment-78.2.4.130-20120822230121/@comment-80.15.143.26-20120829133013

veigar is not viable in tourney, but perfectly fine in normals or ranked at low elo to mid elo

the issue is more that a simple QSS or cleanse makes him useless : other team picks blitz gets QSS :  you use stun he cleanse grab bump silence and you die before doing your combo.

btw about not bursting tanks: look into cassiopeia she destroys tanks with her spamm, ofc it's not a combo like veigar or LB  but  with spellvamp she easily 1v1 the tank.