Talk:Shaco/@comment-68.228.88.11-20120424210620/@comment-76.115.182.103-20120426215620

are you stupid?! i main shaco and have since he first came. yes they did make a time nerf on shaco, as well as MANY other nerfs since he first came out, but when jungling with shaco, you dont push red and wraiths at the same time. it no longer works, especially if you're new to the whole "im going to jungle shaco" bullshit.

when jungling shaco you should push for blue first, then hit wolves, not that hard. place 4 jack/boxes in blue and kill one wolf to hit lvl 2. that sets up for a very clean lvl 2 gank rather than waiting for lvl three and spending too much time trying to lvl. on top of that, the blue helps a lot more than red does at early game, just because of the 1/1 ratio with ap. personly i HATE ap shaco, but with the mana reg, and the cdr, its a lot more viable than trying to hit lvl three by 5 minutes into game.