Talk:Shyvana/@comment-79.9.101.59-20120404221119/@comment-69.231.221.153-20120405094206

its true, shes more than viable but the reason people complain is because she was even stronger before, if that makes sense. Also a lot of people were really pissed that riot called her W nerf a "bug fix" when it was clearly a nerf.

her tankiness and damage doesn't go without costs either, she has no cc's (however, i think if they give her even a soft cc like a slow, she'd be borderline op) and as far as gap closers/escapes go, its true her ulti is good but because its an ulti, it can't be used often.

dont get me wrong, shyvana is one of my favorite champs and my main. she does her anti-carry role in teamfights really well, its just she has both strong points and weak points, and both should be pointed out.

As far as jungle timing goes, if anyones wondering, Shyvana's jungle time is about 3:20 from levels 1-4, which is the second fastest. The fastest would be mundo at 3:15ish and third would be udyr around 3:30.