Talk:Maokai/@comment-24.87.1.42-20110218063145

he's considered bad, but i don't think he's that bad. early game he's a bit weak, but for me, after my Roa and shoes i can start to get pretty tanky. last game I did with him i went 17/2 and managed to get a quadra pretty late game. he's definitely a strong tank mid-late game, and initiating with his root and then instantly casting your ult on everyone is a pretty good way to initiate. he's tanky, has some disruptions, though he still could use a buff.