Talk:Kayle/@comment-25304344-20150312184106/@comment-24082016-20150317161448

It's not your computer Solstius

Luden echo discription states " Gains charges upon moving or casting ".

Righteous fury definition states "... granting her bonus magic damage on her attacks".

It's the distinction between ability casting and onhit effect that your mixing up this time. Luden's echo requires kayle to move around alot, or expel all her abilities to get charged up quickly for 1 blast. And that's why I would say it's a horrible item for Kayle, at least in comparison to Lich Bane, which many aren't even fond of. The best way I can explain my viewpoint is to pose the question and my thoughts on what makes Luden's "work" on a champ what conditions would make the item an "OP" choice on a champ.

For Luden's, the conditions are these.

1.Spammability of Champ Skills to raise stacks to 100. In other words, how often can a champ trigger an ability to stack up  to full charge for 1 Luden "shockwave" atk.

2.Abilities and/or a way to proc full Charge damage from a relatively safe distance. Although You can do this with a close ranged champ, this items charged atk is much more obnoxious when used by someone who can charge it up quickly and use it repetitvely. That's why people like Karthus would do very well with it. Someone mentioned Cassiopia, which is true since she has a retarded amount of spamability with some abilities, but she is relatively close ranged in her fights, so if someone REALLY wanted to, they could probably proc some easy lichbane hits, taking care of crucial/bothersome targets faster than trying to 100(15% ap) damage shockwave a few people after 3-5 abilitity casts and some movement.