Talk:Nocturne/@comment-3238314-20110317184137

I see you kids can't listen at all. If we take a look at his damage, he has about the same strength as after-buff renekton damage wise. Probably a bit less, since renekton has a avatar spell, and his skills deal alot more damage. His advantage is mostly being able to surprize people and finish them fast, and in that case he's really good, but if he does not finish his target really fast, he's dead meat.

In the games i've met him so far, and if anything, it's annoying to be sniped by him, but like always, you guys don't get the difference between annoying and overpowered.

Admittedly, he's very strong. For the first time you play against him, that is. After you get to know his limitations, and learn to dodge Q, he doesn't have anything much, except maybe the fear, which is countered with mercury's.

If anything, you guys don't freaking know how to play against him, or expect to win against him with soraka, like some guy below seems to want.

TL;DR God damn wait a week or two until people get used to him, and mostly learn to play, mercurial in dota is stronger than nocturne, and people don't complain about him there. Get a thornmail and mercury's or something