Talk:Kayle/@comment-4039342-20111127210933/@comment-216.169.178.94-20111130154833

I guess that I was trying to point out that you seem to be comparing apples to oranges. Nocturne is a melee, assassin. Hence, it is his job to get in close and burst down a single target quickly. A full damage build on Kayle means she is playing the role of a ranged AD. Nocturne 1v1's by closing the gap and bursting down. Kayle 1v1's by kiting and baiting people into engaging when her ult is up. Again everything you said comparing nocturne to kayle would also apply to nocturnce vs. caitlyn, or vayne, or tristana. All of their roles is to stand back and obliterate a team from a distance, while nocturne's specific role is to take out the carry's, like kayle, vayne, tristana etc. That is what I was getting at. Nocturne plays a different role that she does.

You point about the ult is well taken (and I see now that is what you were getting at with your original post, how to best use her ult). When I play with friends I often prefer it if an assassin initiates and draws all of the enemies attention allowing the ult to soak up all of their burst and cause chaos. This can leave you a bit vulnerable but if you position correctly it shouldn't be too much of a problem as you are dishing out heaps of damage and supporting your team at the same time :D. It is a bit situational, but it does allow for the assassin to easily do his job while keeping you in position to do yours.