Talk:Fiora/@comment-4834593-20120505122933/@comment-177.32.215.138-20120505144302

If "getting into the middle of the enemy team, then when you're almost dead use your ultimate and lifesteal back to almost full health" is a trick that works for you, your playing against shit teams of shit players, period!

Fiora hits fast and hard, but that usually requires someone stupid enough to get caught out of position and/or stand there and trade blows with you.

She has no CC, no escape tools, no defensive tools and is very squishy, on top of that she's melee, which means that by definition she has to expose herself to all kinds of retaliation if she wants to be able to attack.

The sustain from her passive is negligible; Riposte scales from AP(?!), has too long of a cooldown for what it does and won't work on almost all abilities; Burst of Speed is amazing, but the duration is very short and a smart opponent will either neutralize or avoid her while it's on; Her ultimate is powerul, but can be avoided or neutralized fairly easily, is on a massive cooldown time and is basically just a tricky attack.

Fiora can probably out-DPS most, if not all, other carries, but there's far more to the game than just doing damage and currently, not only is it a bit har to find her a place in the meta, she's easily less viable than all ranged carries and doesn't particularly stand out against the melee ones either.

All the "tricks" op mentioned are typical of newer players and typically work only on newer/bad players. Calling Fiora OP = knowing little about the game. Several pros have made comments as to her lack of viability, as has Elementz placed her in bottom tier as a solo queue draft champion. You think you know more about the game than these guys? Op even goes so far in shooting himself in the foot as to compare her to Graves.. Probably the currently most powerful carry... Come on.. Learn the game before you post your ramblings here!

Fiora is not OP, period. She's not UP either, she's just "limited", but could use a few minor tweaks. A good Fiora needs both farming/feeding and a good team around her to cover her many shortcomings, at least if you're up against a minimally competent team.