Talk:Kindred/@comment-5322584-20151025032102/@comment-5322584-20151025115459

Gragas situation: i was running for scutlecrab, he came up full hp and we started a fight (both lvl2) i had no passive stacks, and only golems "stun" buff, he had blue buff. We used both flashes and i killed him. After that i ran into their red jungle(since i had his bluebuff), when i came there he already did red so i ran after him and scored a kill in the bush near double golems, and a moment after scored a kill on fiora. 3 kills, 2 buffs all my camps alive in 6 minutes... but we lost a game due to suicidal tactics of our adc, top and mid farming solo under enemies t2

Amumu situatinon: i did Gromp and ran into enemies red jungle, waited in the brush killed Amumu. Few minutes later got a stack on the birdies and killed Amumu there, almost killed enemy Malza. And 3d time killed Amumu on his wolves(got 2 stacks imidiatly)

Kha situation: I might say, i was lucky. I've put 2 wards on the wolf camp and bluebuff. lvl3 Kindred much stronger lvl3 Kha'Zix. Because i know that it's necessary to screw game to Kha, so i've got his blue and saw him on wolves - scored a kill. After that he tried to counter me but he was unlucky. Maybe it is not all about Kindred, it is probably all about Warding > Kha

Udyr, was hard but got him on his red once and met him on the river, was pretty long chase thou.

Just want to tell that there is moment when Kindred shines: it's LvL 2-4 without items.

A little bit math, on lvl 2 i can do 361+197.6=558.6 raw damge from 2 abillities: 351=Qx5 181.6=W (with ADmarks). This is straight 8 seconds of damage output during wolf frenzy, and take in a count autoattacks between jumps and heal. Very mobile and very strong champion.