Talk:Zed/@comment-5557556-20150423095708/@comment-6281696-20150425085444

I'm saying it's viably possible, not that it's optimal. And with just 2 of those 3 items, you can still get true damage against up to about 80 armor as long as LW is included, which is still rather ludicris. Those kind of penetration levels should only be viable possible if you either have stupid low scalings (as in <10% AD) or if all your opponents has some massive amount of armor (as in >250). Yet everyone and their mother runs around with penetration items, frequently even before anyone builds any significant defenses.

It might be that in the end you deal less effective damage, but it won't be 1000 with more AD versus 200 with true damage, it'd probably be more like 1000 vs 900 which against an opponent with 800 health both are plenty. And yes, arbitrary numbers are arbitrary but you get the point..

As for it defeating the purpose of defenses, if you're ignoring half a person's build you're rather defeating the purpose of it.. Also health on its own is by far the weakest defensive stat as it can only be used once. By comparison damage reduction works against every hit and regen works as long as you aren't dead. You'l always need a mix of the stats, but pure health tends to be a very weak tactic unless it comes in truly obscene quantities or there is some kind of healing mechanic resetting your health to max every so often.

Also, where the hell are all those tanks in this tank meta, I'm seeing pretty much solely glass canons and the occasionall "bruiser" who's relying on lifesteal and a single defensive item to stay up. I haven't seen any real tanks since season 2 or something when Riot decided defensive was boring and we needed more "plays". Seriously, people have been complaining about tanks for years, and I can't even remember the last time I actually saw any true tanks. The only thing coming even close is whenever someone like Udyr becomes FOTM because trinity got buffed and he can now murder half a team on his own in 2 seconds with a single item, but that's not so much people playing a tank as just abusing a single hyper effective offensive item or mechanic to kill everyone. Seriously where are the proper tanks?