Talk:Fizz/@comment-5151680-20121116185323/@comment-5151680-20121116225134

He still sucks.

''Item gave him a huge buff? You do know that if it benefits Fizz, it also benefits every other BETTER Ap casters/assassins out there.''

The number on this kit is just too bad and it needs to be fixed.

''Ms? He's a melee champ. If E is the reason he only has 310 Ms then why the heck is Jax at 325?''

''Q range : 550. I put this on the "Gap closer tier list" on the same level as Zed's ult, crap tier.''

And many more.

''Like it or not but Fizz's not going to do crap against Diana or other 75% of the mid. Here's how to counter this awesome champ.''

"Use your range advantage and the fact you scale much better because Fizz late game can suck it"

You really have so little clue about what you're talking about, that I don't even know where to begin. The fact that you can't play a melee champion and live against a ranged champion shows how little worth your opinion has.

Just a note, diana and akali are both melee champs, and they don't have problems either. So you blaming your failure to succeed with fizz cannot be blamed on him being a melee champ.

Fizz has a higher burst than Diana at a cost of sustain, because of her shield. The same applies when comparing him to akali, because of her spell vamp.

This patch, and the new DFG item increases magic damage recieved for 4 seconds. 80% of AP carries can't get their full burst off in 4 seconds. Fizz can. So no, it doesn't benefit everyother AP caster out there.

Fizz can already instant gib many AP carries, and the ones he can't are the few counters he has.

All fizz has to do is play safe until lvl 3-4 and the rest of the game morederately easy.

Once he hits 6, it gets even better.

Its great that you think his Q is a "crap tier" gapcloser, because it also hits like a semi truck, and applies on-hit affects.

''The offense masteries benefit him alot actually, Spellblade, makes his Q and W better for trade-offs. Though it would benefit other AP carries, melee's are put in a far better position compared to before.''

Yes.

 

Also: Liandry's torment, it's passive deals 5% current health as magic damage (opposite of his W's passive), and deals more damage of they're movement is impaired (his e and R both do that, and since Fizz gets Rylai's, it's some good synergy on him) Infact his W passive procs the item passive so each time he deals DoT missing health damage he procs a DoT that deals current health damage

I highly doubt that his W applies liandry's torment, because it doesn't apply rylai's or blackfire torch. However his Q, E and R all apply it.