Talk:Karthus/@comment-10636733-20130623011646/@comment-973379-20130629012103

Gragas is better early in mid lane(high range AOE), but bad late(no damage with tanky items or really squishy in full AP build.. and E put you in melee) while Karthus has better lategame, but is easy target for assasins, which are now popular.. so he better in jungle(he have very high clear time, and if you start with 3 spell wamp quints and spellwamp mastery - good sustain too, can be good duelist(those single target Q) and if you master his Q can even be good ganker. But very squishy, so need tanky top and support). In general I'd say - take Karthus and go jungle(then build tear->revolver->roa->hourglass->spellwamp and seraph and be immortal.. and then twice immortal with your passive).