Talk:Vladimir/@comment-87.172.194.68-20130103223935/@comment-194.65.37.67-20130108115036

"However, put something like Fiddle, Warwick etc. against him and he drops or at least loses trades. But since most of his counters are unpopular, he must be OP, so nerf him."

it is just me or this is not a valid argument?? he is a very viable pick (specialy with liadra's torment) but still  very balanced (low move speed, armor vs. power tradeoffs) and just because he has crimsons pack doenst make him OP, specialy because he is not a burst champ! is very tatical! he cam chanche the tide of a figth for good and for bad...