Talk:Vi/@comment-3238314-20121214132612/@comment-109.133.75.19-20121216093744

imo it shouldn't be posted here because it doesnt discuss the champion at all but talks about a general larger subject which should be discussed on a seperated place. Talking about other subjects just reduce ''value" of these forums.

The reason they seperate it is because could find comments about a certain subject more easy (and who will ever look for the op agrument here ?). Besides, it looks more like stunt to drawn attention to a certain subject or to your own frustrations. it would look much better if you just say what you have to say instead of constantly complaining about the persons with an other vision.

The whole op agrument isnt even valid because i dont believe anyone can say with certainly that a champion will be op. It just to difficult to see the whole picture at the release and actual no champion is OP on itself, but the environment he's in can make him seem stronger/weaker on release or after some time. Also people discover new compositions or new ways to play a champion which imo made rengar look more stronger now. ( i can remeber the first days when he was only played as a jungler).

As for Vi, i dont think she's or will be op because even if she posses insane dmg output she has also long cooldowns especially early on and is also relative easy countered by armor. She also also has imo low utility for her team.

The only thing i know is that riot can sometimes ''overdo" certain champions or reworks.