Talk:Jax/@comment-5763148-20130723120832/@comment-5763148-20131013104204

Wow this has been ages since I posted lol. Er first of all, Udyr is one of my main Champs so I know him inside out. He is weak against Jax, period. Also, while Phoenix is more useful late game, u gotta know WHY it is useful. It is useful cos it is able to deal AoE damage over time around all of ur surroundings. This helps ur team finish off targets extremely quickly.

Tiger stance on the other hand is betr for duelling and lockin down single targets. Against CC heavy teams, it is sub-optimal. And yes, I'm well aware of the fact that Bear Stance STILL stuns the target regardless of the Dodge mechanic. Doesn't mean Udyr can kick Jax's asss cos Jax can use CounterStrike to avoid AA oriented damage and Udyr is gunna stay close and continue his futile attempt at mauling the guy like an idiot then get stunned and bashed to death by a lampost.

Now, plz tell me Udyr still kicks Jax's asss. :P