Talk:Zilean/@comment-68.38.212.180-20120626102633/@comment-186.136.186.166-20120708075816

The problem with zilean: If you dont get AP, your Q is useless at level 5, they are tanky enough and your damage is not catching up. Your W wont help you here, doble damage just to make up for your lack of AP, wasting your mana and risking yourself, also, pushing the lane. Your haste and slow may be good late game, but early game is not that powerful, it is something to consider, but with all the gap closers and the strong cc's an enemy may have, is not exactly something to be afraid. You have no sustain for you or your carry, you dont have the highest range or the highest CC. Your ult can resurrect someone, but unless you get a tear and 40% it is not on a short CD like some people think. (180 secs, lets say you pop your W 10 times, thats -100 sec and 500 mana... assuming your W has no CD, wich is not the case, now, you get ganked by Nocturne, so and your carry dies mid lane, you pop your ultimate and... what? They will eat you alive and then your carry.)

You think zilean is a good support or you wish he were? Ive done Zil support, and is not a skill problem, is champion problem, he cant do it right with 0cs, just like Karma. Hes better as a AP mid, and then, lategame you will also support with your ultimate while dealing a sick AoE damage. Getting Kages lucky pick wont take you anywhere and the "It takes longer" is retarded, I can say "Im going to be Veigar mid, ill go for a tear, yeah, building my DFG will take longer, but with a tear I can stay in lane longer" yeah... ok, take the tear and lets see how it goes. Just like Orianna, send Zilean mid, let him farm, and then, mid and late game he will ult your carry if needed, meanwhile, put a Janna /Soraka /Taric / Alistar etc bot lane, because THEY DONT NEED AP or AD to work.