Talk:Talon/@comment-30495547-20161231092404

Well, I tried to make Talon to actually work in many different ways. But all of them were failrue. Basically, the best way is to go top and do a constant W Q AA trades with passive with first item BC. Then you'll need swift\merc boots and after that I have no idea.His midgame feels like a big and deep hole. You can't just kill your target like old Talon, you NEED to wait for a right moment to strike when enemy will have no protection. Ik what they wanted him to do so but man, that's making Talon TOO slow. He became something like early\late game assasin when meta is not slow enough for him. His snowballing is not so great too, I had a lot of moments when I was 4\0 but still couldn't kill enemy adc. And even if you want late game assasin for some reason, there's better pick - Kassadin. Atleast Kassadin can snowball pretty hard and not so easy to stop.

I think there's two ways to make Talon great again:

1) Make his Q alt AA so you can proc sheen effects and other stuff like hydras etc.

2) Speed bonus after hitting (yes, just hitting, not killing) enemy with Q with slightly larger range so he can dodge skill shoots\ run away\ find other way to engage on a enemy.

P.S. My most successful build was: BC (bonus ms and insta-proc on passive)-Titanic hydra (sweet autoresset) - swift boots (or mercs) - deadman's plate (ms bonus) - zz rot (ms bonus plus that annoying pushing ability) - maw (you also can buy cage\ga\omen and other tank stuff. Or death's dance) as a toplaner.