Talk:Shyvana/@comment-16180701-20130822024933/@comment-8468980-20130822055042

power clearing junglers aren't particularly well suited to the current jungle. Skarner, Mundo, and Shyv aren't nearly as picked as often as they used to be. You can't just power clear and counter jungling isn't as effective nor does it have the same impact that it used to due to camp spawn timers in S3.

Due to this, there was a return to gank centric junglers which is why J4, Vi, Xin, and Heca dominated and are still strong picks despite several nerfs to them and to core item sets.

Plus, core S2 Shyvana items like phage and wriggles were(still are?) pretty crappy choices in S3 due to nerfs.

So, if Shyvana doesn't have the same impact she used to in the jungle, has poor core items (the upcoming change to remove phage from FM's recipe isn't helping her at all either), and has no ability to adapt; why am I picking her over junglers who can either steal objectives better like Nunu, gank better like Maokai, or transition into good initiators like J4? This is even after pretty big buffs to her kit.