Talk:Ardent Censer/@comment-24693081-20140618135314/@comment-3308937-20140619025817

"tank support should not want it simply because it doesn't help them in their primary function, which is being a meatshield"

Uh, no. Their primary function is locking down enemies and keeping their allies safe. Alistar already gets a ton of defensive stats from his ult and Arly has 2 big tank support items (Mountain and Locket) in his build before Censer. At a certain point you spending more gold on being tanky does nothing whatsoever to help your team survive, especially on a champ like Ali who outside of blocking skillshots can't make anyone attack him.

Regarding him not benefiting from the stats on the item... uh, what. Ali loooooves movespeed and CDR, with Locket and FotM the 10% from censer caps him out assuming he has 0 cdr in masteries (0/16/14 or 0/21/9) or runes. The AP is a little subpar but more heals and more damage is never a bad thing, especially since it's not like he's spending a ton of gold on that one stat.

It's a viable alternative to getting tankier in the case that you getting tankier via something like a Frozen Heart or Randuin's isn't going to help your team due to them ignoring you or your team needs stronger tower/objective power where being tankier isn't going to help. No one's saying it's going to completely make items like Locket, FotM, FH, etc. useless on tankier supports, they're saying it opens up more build paths so that they can actually help their team in ways other than just piling on health and armor.