Talk:Jayce/@comment-5211662-20160917144545/@comment-28977071-20160918112753

Just stopping by to post my favourite counterpick website. ANswers to all your questions found there.

Yes, both and  are listed as counters there as well, but you can click on each individual matchup to get detailed descriptions about strategies. For example in case of the two mentioned counters, the descriptions clearly state that they are more of skill matchups.