Talk:Riven/@comment-22964237-20131116211647/@comment-5209745-20131119053411

Firstly, don't be so stubborn. Are you really that closed-minded that you think every Riven player here only plays Riven? Please.

You want a good comparisson? Well, she has a spammable shield and a spammable stun. So does Udyr. And Udyr also has the damage and, if built correctly, even tankyness (Which is something she doesn't. Let's admit it, her shield goes away in one hit, and if not, it's your fault). Then you know what, if anybody called Udyr OP, s/he would be regarded a blatant pussy.

I think the one who doesn't understands it is you. You're looking at the matter from the rage point of view. Try to calm down and try to think about it as a game-designer, because, well, that's how abilities should be analysed. 170 base damage on W is not that much (Heck, it's half the highest non-ult ability base damage), 0'75 secs stun gets down to 0'5 secs with Tenacity (Becoming what is meant to: A brief disruption), and even if her shield is based on 100% bonus AD, 100% bonus AD is nowhere near to most AP shields. So we have to put there something to make these abilities more attractive instead of subtlely tell the player "Hey, max Q, it's a one-point wonder but the damage is attractive since the other abilities simply are not".

So, yeah, try thinking about it twice. You know, as if this game was your responsability.