Talk:Katarina/@comment-33172118-20171206224327/@comment-33172118-20171207150631

I agree with everything you say, but imo the problem is in the combination of strenghts and scenarios. E.g someone picks kata mid against a champion that cannot cancel her ult. That means Kata wins that lane, pretty much binary, unless heavily focussed down early game(which isn't easy as kata doesn't have a hard time trading with most champions). In teamfight someone should be at the ready to cancel the ult I'll agree.

Then she snowballs incredibly hard, meaning that if you so happened to have started with a lane that can't counter kata reliably she will be instantkilling your botlane with nil to zero effort. In addition kata is a champion who can blink instantly, several times in a teamfight in a game that relies on skillshots. Which on it's turn means that some champs need luck and others need to reserve certain abilities just for her every single time she could potentially engage.

Imo that's toxic by design. I understand counterplay, I understand the laning phase is important and I understand that counter drafting is important. But Katarine requires you to do all of them just to prevent her from stomping virtually anyone: she NEEDS to be shut down in lane, she NEEDS champions who can reliably stop her(e.g champs like Sona, Jarvan or Taliyah aren't particularly useful against her as a good Kata can avoid these abilities with relative ease) and she NEEDS you to reserve a set of abilities only for her in every fight. Having one of these traits is completely fine, but not all of them. This might also be the reason she's one of the best midlaners available as of now.