Talk:Garen/@comment-4304118-20120910181230/@comment-4304118-20120910233723

Indeed, I tried it and it keeps working, you might not kill opponents but you simply force them to B or get killed when your abilities cds are reset.

I couldn't have explained it myself.

I kind of agree with that point, I've been getting Ghostie ASAP lately, getting the Avarice or Brut depending on income, Ghostie is cheap enough to get another chain vest or negatron alongside it.

I don't understimate it! I love SF Cape to bits and I just used it my last game cause I was fed, getting it early can make any melee impossible to trade with you even if they bait out your Q/E, you pop W and let try to break you, love how Demacian Justice never flinchs anymore.

It's my Sin, teehee, I always want more, the thing is that DJ being magical damage and the cape is enough for Garen to not be completely stoppped by armor, LW or not, what I like about itemizing him right now is that you are a bit more free than just rushing Warmogs all the time.

Baiting spells while popping courage can easily make the follow up by your team be unstoppable, Garen is a juggernaut with his W on now, as it should be!

Sadly, you are correct, IE is a item you get after you have enough tankyness or if you don't like Ghostie, it's a matter of personal prefference, Ghostie rocks alongside FM for example, I haven't gotten IE in awhile like it was almost required to not fall of late game, I think it's good if you are dirty rich and above 3k HP and 200 defenses.

I'll have to test that, lately I've been using more Omen and GA as my armor items, with the occasional SF cape from kills, I do like the sound Judgment makes when you crit.

Overall, I think the new Garen feels like old Jarvan used to be, you can't kill him, but he can kill you, you end up going superhero mode 3x1x3 on your KDA, which is why I am rounding up resists with GA, normally mercs are enough MR with the help of W.