Talk:Deathfire Touch (Season 2016 Mastery)/@comment-14240154-20160127030756/@comment-26071360-20160127111710

Specifically in the case of Ezreal, I find W to be a waste of mana as the damage is practically unnoticable unless you are building AP and E is your escape and also guzzles mana pretty well at early levels. Furthermore the mana cost for W at level 1 is more than Q at level 5. Using E offensively is something I feel one should only do if the damage will be enough to finish someone, chasing or escaping. Other uses can cause mana attrition.

For the sake of argument, I'm going to do some quick harass math levels 1-6 with each mastery. I'm assuming you have roughly 20 bonus AD which should cover levels 1-6 fairly well. I'm not going to count the damage from the actual ability because it's irrelevant here.

Deathfire Touch (W only harass)

Level 1-6: 6 bonus damage from a W hit on enemy champion(s). That's 4 base damage and 2 from your base AD. The damage stays constant regardless of W rank as base damage does not scale. So if I'm calculating this right, assuming you hit W every 9 seconds that's a 0.6 (lots more sixes) bonus DPS per second. Not a lot.

Thunderlord's Decree (Q-auto-auto)

Level 1-6: 16 to 66 bonus damage. Right off the bat, that number grows. That's important. Your Q will always be off cooldown because it's cooldown is much lower than Thunderlord's, so assuming you manage to proc it every time off cooldown, that's 0.8 to 3.3 bonus DPS. Even at level 1 it's better than Deathfire Touch.

What makes Thunderlord's so exceptionally powerful is that it adds BURST, and it also synergizes exceptionally well with lane bullies like Lux who have an easy time proccing it. DoT mages like Malzahar prefer Deathfire Touch because it's harder for them to proc Thunderlord's (maybe not by a huge amount), but the bonus synergy from Deathfire is too good to pass up since it's like adding additional scaling to your DoTs.

Assume for the sake of argument that Ezreals Q did proc Deathfire. You'd get something like this:

Level 1-6: 20 bonus damage (8 base, 12 ratio with 20 bonus AD). 3.63 bonus DPS at level 1 (I'm calculating with 5.5 seconds CD since you're hitting the spell), 4.44 at level six (3 ranks in Q). So if Q procced Deathfire, it would probably be more viable yeah. But it doesn't, so it isn't.

tl;dr No, Deathfire Touch is not viable on Ezreal.