Talk:Nocturne/@comment-76.184.6.99-20121127071115/@comment-5112222-20121127235126

Yu seem to forget the fact that taking W first is a stupid idea, Q's damae increase from Machete would still be fine, also Xin, also Diana.

However, other items will make him stornger, such as Hydra, SEL (Spirit of the Elder Lizard), Zephyr, Mercurial, and the Furor Enchantment.