Talk:Garen the Night of Demacia/@comment-60.240.32.96-20110724115422/@comment-98.252.26.207-20110724124217

This is not the best build for Garen in 5v5. I wish it was. I so, so, so wish it was, but you'll seriously be focused down hard against good players. I pretty much disagree with every single one of your items. :O

Ghostblade's a luxury and not something you want to build straight away. Infinity Edge costs so much money that it leaves you defenseless, especially if you get a Bloothirster right after it. Basically means you'll be free food. :O

So yeah, this is why I say Garen's crit mechanic is dumb. Infinity Edge, like Ghostblade, is a luxury. It works on Garen nicely, but is just too expensive and Garen needs that money for survivability. It's only viable in certain situations.

Warmog's is inefficient and overall bad on Garen compared to Frozen Mallet. Frozen Mallet gives you very high HP, adds more to your DPS without needing to be farmed, and offers a slow, which is very nice on Garen. Warmog's adds nothing besides HP, so it's vulnerable to Bloodrazor and not a very tanky overall.

And Renekton wants his Black Cleaver back and will trade you for a LW. Black Cleaver is bad on Garen because to make the most of it, he needs to autoattack. Garen opens with Decisive Strike into Judgment and -then- autoattacks, so Black Cleaver's armor reduction, which is really needed for Judgment, is wasted.

But in 3v3, I hear Garen does actually build a Bloodthirster and acts more like a carry, so maybe that's what you meant.