Talk:Garen/@comment-4542190-20140925104334/@comment-5955640-20141006031854

That's a reasonable request against an Atmas. That's probably why it's sort of nerfed to the point to where it's only sort of useable on health based champs.

I think next to healing sustain champs. Self health regen, total health, and health sustain champs should probably be next on the chopping block.

Their strength is that you can't kill them at all because they tank through having lots of health. If they get damage ontop of that in say an item it becomes a big problem and it's a general exploit.