Talk:Riven/@comment-26223806-20150319200518/@comment-1330314-20150323173428

I don't fully agree with that last statement. A few champions, like Soraka and Rengar, are complained about just because they used to be toxic at some point in their existence, and it makes it easier for players to shift blame away if they lose against them. Others, like Yasuo, Nidalee or Riven, have features that make them stand out from all other champions, which makes them strong at something to a point that feels broken, even if they're fine design-wise. Player consensus does help identify some issues, but there are a lot of things players easily complain about or speak against on the forums that are fine overall (if we were to just go by the forums, all marksmen and champions with gapclosers or knockups would be toxic, for example).

Regarding Riven specifically, my only big gripe with her is that a lot of her gameplay revolves around animation canceling, which in the context of player-versus-player combat doesn't really hinge on any kind of interaction, and just sets an artificial barrier to her power. Unlocking her fast combo potential for everyone and balancing accordingly, or removing her animation canceling would likely make her burst a lot less deceptive.