Talk:Riven/@comment-8733289-20131224042732/@comment-7434112-20140105105425

@StarSaviour ...I'm saying that every other shield has some other effect.

Lee's shield grants a shield to an ally champion as well, doubling the effective health for hte team. And the LS and SV makes his sustain in lane way stronger when having E and using it on a minions wave. So what if a Riven engages? Just trade and outsustain it... and with maxing E it gets even stronger sustain when using it on a whole wave.

Janna can shield for a greater amount and gives AD, and with the recent changes, supports can build AP. This IS  a team game so supports even have a role (bigger than before) in the game.

Tl;dr All other champions with shields have some other effect and if for example Lee's shield scaled with AD, they'd have to tone it down a WHOLE lot.

Also, guess i'll hold back on urgot comments dince he may be getting a rework later.

Also, it's quite hard to get max CDR on ad champions without having to go something like SV/BC/Youmuu's or SV/Lucidity boots and masteries but then you give up on merc threads which is.....

Also, riven shield as spammable as an ezreal Q? Heeeell no. Landing an Ezreal Q makes it 3 secs and with even more CDR, it becomes less. And ezreal's escape's CD becomes less with every Q hit as well, so its a pretty important factor to put in.

True, she can travel a distance of 1105 (not taking flash into account) over a rather long period of time, and uses most of her damage to get there(being her Q). Other champions, like Wukong for example, have their damage in their gap closer and can follow up as well.

As a final note, wasn't pretty much this whole last part of this post telling that riven needed no skill to pummel others? Leyram's 1v1 would've been able to tell whether a matchup with a skilled and non-skilled riven would back up this whole post....