Talk:Leona/@comment-4046013-20140108075343/@comment-4046013-20140108103642

Alistar has had one of the lowest winrates in the game for a long time now. He's way too easy to blow up except for when he ults - just wait for a 3v3 and watch him explode first. Maybe there is a small hidden community of people who actually know how to play him super well that I don't know about, but the numbers say that he's been hurting for a long time. Leona used to be 49-51%, but she's been like 53-54% since the changes to W. She's not over the top or anything, but a buff is a buff (an Aegis is enough to break even with the old W that didn't scale). Some counters are better than others, but the fact that she now scales better into the late game makes her kind of scary.

I would not be happy at all if they nerfed her CC, and a nerf to the range on her R would hurt a lot (unless it were really tiny). I've just noticed that the W changes let her tank more damage on top of the additional income in S4. There also might be some power hidden in the fact that her resists scale off of health better than most supports' utility scales off of AP, CDR, or anything else at all - meaning the return on the extra gold is better for her than most.

Changes to W wouldn't affect whether some supports have effective disengage or not. I'm not totally sure who would win an LCS-level matchup in any of these cases. In any case, it's not like they have to balance any champion to be at least on even footing with their strongest counterpick.