Talk:Udyr/@comment-1663379-20110208191151/@comment-76.176.126.230-20110209073045

General rule of thumb is that all Junglers should have at least 9 down utility. Without the extra experience and extra duration of buff it becomes pointless to jungle as you'd just be gimping yourself. With proper runes you can do the general cloth armor and 5 health pots and do golem normally.