Talk:VPBE/@comment-24795478-20141113060925/@comment-3232747-20141114160955

You also have to rembmer all the other things junglers have now. They have DoT magic dmg from Gromp, a free true sight and ward from birds and wolves. The one thing that bothers me is the Krug stun, it just seems so worthless. Also, the  smites can give you the true dmg vs champs as well. You don't want them too powerful with all the new tools they have. They are gonna have enough to worry about anyway.