Talk:Twisted Fate/@comment-35229418-20150315185705

Thought about copypasting a post of mine from 's page, since it addresses Twisted Fate too:

Ok, so it looks like this thingy actually beats Lich Bane as a first item on Twisted Fate, and by a lot. Assuming you don't get any AP from runes and masteries, your W+E+Q ratios are going to deal 216 damage with Luden, which surpasses Lich's 172 damage by 44, raising your damage by ~26%.

Other pros:
 * You gain ~7 more MS;
 * Your first buy is 350g cheaper compared to .

Cons:
 * Your first buy grants less power;
 * The total cost is 100g more;
 * You get no bonus mana.