Talk:Veigar/@comment-25325968-20150226221441

First, Riot removes his core item. Then, they completely gut him. "BUT BUT MUH DOUBLE AP STACKING!" is a stupid argument to make because good Veigar players know that you use your q to harass in lane (harder now since it's a skillshot, indirectly lowering his dps) because it doesn't pass through all minions and the range isn't even that high. Then they nerf the skill even more by making the cd higher. While of course you farm up your q, you don't spam it and harass with it. Not to mention the e nerf, which is justifiable but they ruined it. They should lower the cast time a little bit to compensate because it's nigh impossible to get a good stun off unless they're cc'd already. This makes his W useless, so the buffs to that ability are futile. Lowering the ult ap ratio was probably unnecessary. His laning phase is completely ruined and is very bad, anyone with a dash can just dash TO him and murder him with barely any conesquence. This is coming from a long time and big time Veigar player, or former Veigar player.