Talk:Kha'Zix/@comment-5334902-20131030144720/@comment-5977018-20131119063725

"yes, but those are the problems. first, if fully stacked. you need 30 stacks. in the jungle that will take a long time": Not necessarily, especially if you count in the stacks you get from lane tax/holding lane till someone B.

"plus if you die you lose em": Only half of them, which is easy to get back

"you lose clearing and splitpushing potential": Not much fallback with clearing, but "split pushing quickly" is indeed a lot easier with a Hydra

"and third, hydra gives a 1.0 per ad additional burst. better than those 25 bonus ad you get. the enemies dont need excessive amount for lw to be good. its cheap, it gives a bit of ad, and the armor pen is always great, especially since it works first.": That's active is actually something I never considered when comparing Hydra with BT. I'll probably give a try to buying Hydra instead where I buy BT, build LW where I usually complete Cleaver and instead where I usually buy Hydra, I complete Cleaver, ending up with 1 AD item, Hydra being that one but 2 Armor pen item, I will try and see how it works. Got nothing to loose in pre season afterall.

"as for what you say, i checked it. it actually does. its a bug, i guess, this game got so many of em. however, q applies only 1 stack with muramana. again, cleaver only applies 1 extra damage per instance. if a single target spell or an autoattack is enhanced by muramana, it applies only 1 stack. you can get 4 in a second, due to the new passive bug (note to self, give that info to riot)": This is the point where I'd like to turn your attention toward the video I attached to this comment, which I originally started working on "just for you" but I ended up with it as a short guide for everione who finds it, so the video it self have more point to exist. It contains 2 different clip in slow motion (50% game speed) to prove you "you must have done something wrong" since Q DOES apply 2 stacks of cleaver (given that you turned on your Muramana's toggle), furthermore it explains why Kha'Zix can apply 2 stack of cleaver with his passive totally legitimately, so reporting this will probably not the type of report that will yield some free "thanks RP" but an e-mail from riot explaining the same thing I did in the video.

Your turn, diamond player.