Talk:Udyr/@comment-66.240.31.2-20130311152707/@comment-92.240.191.84-20130312190908

You still need to build AP, most Udyr players (ma included) find Phoenix Stance useless, just because when you build DMG then you also build good sustain, as both his Tiger Stance and his Turtle Stance work well with AD. Tiger/Turtle Udyr = Godly Sustain