Talk:Jarvan IV/@comment-67.169.207.175-20110310045913/@comment-3238314-20110310182417

As a Jarvan played, I can tell where you're coming from, because he can easily screw over squishies and other meele champions. However, my feeling is this comes from the lack of knowledge of how to counter him properly, and unless the champion is not way underpowered early on, new champs are known to faceroll simply because people don't know what tactic to use against him.

After people make a solid template of his gameplay in their minds, the prowess of such champs falls back a bit. I sometimes get this feeling with Ezreal as well, that people expect him to be an easy kill and i see this in the risky play they employ. The problem of FotM champs is that people know almost exactly what you're about to do, you'll be easily countered and focused. At least after lvl 30.

I think some of you can remember the Mordekaiser craze from a couple of months ago. I used the have the feeling you describe when facing him on twisted treeline. Even though he's probably stronger now, I use him, so I know his style very well and I find easy to lane against. Also, the absolute lack of CC kind of makes you a bit dumb to stay there and get trashed and smashed.

Also, as it's been mentioned, some champions are countered by bursting them down with nukes and CC. This makes Twisted Treeline a pretty unbalanced map for such champs, and they shine here.