Talk:Aatrox/@comment-Mangrovee-20130604123302/@comment-Mangrovee-20130607180337

¨Gillroth ... Jax and Aatrox dont have "a lot" in commen, they have some likness in abilities ofc, but you could just as easily say Diana (thirds strike attack, Dash, Slow), Xin'Zhao (AA champ, third strike heal, Dash, Slow, and third attack knock up on Q), Fiora (AA, Atk speed boost, Ad boost, 3 dashes with ult included). And most champs unless they are pure apc have both magic and physical damage on their spells. While Jax is more suited for an Hybrid build, Aatrox is almost entirely suited for pure Ad, he moste likely got the ap scaling on E and R to have some use for the ap from Trinity Force and Baron buff.

And I agree completely when he got 3 full items and boots he will be more of a pain in the ass than a Kha'Zix in the same spot. But you seemed to forgot the toggle on his W for the life steal, that will most likely be enough to sustain him, especially since it get so much enhanced when under 50% health, and his skills is costing % of his current health not his maximum.

And I also agree that he´s an late game champ and therefor "weaker" in the early game phase, but the same can be said about Jax whom you used as a example b4, it isnt b4 lv6 that he peaks with his 3 hit passive and he becomes very strong in 1 go. But that dont mean he´s very weak early game, you just know to play a little safe and passive.

And moste game IMO are short in season3 because people surrender, you dont often stand and take down the nexus at 20 min (I know it has happened), and they surrender cause game has gone so horrible, as long as it´s an even match setup most game go 35 min+ IMO. Since otherwise champs like Sion, Veigar, Thresh and Nasus not be viable anymore since they get stronger the longer the game is from their passives.

I also believe the early health issues he might have most likely can be fixed by starting with a Dorans Blade or rush a Vampiric Scepter.

Love to hear your thoughts about this Gillroth :)