Talk:Heimerdinger/@comment-24113234-20131031012010/@comment-3363768-20131106041256

I don't think Banner is as good on him anymore. Pre-rework it was amazing on him. But now that his turrets die much quicker, it doesn't offer him as much anymore. That isn't to say NEVER buy it. It definitely has its uses. I used to rush it on him with great success, but it might be a better end game item now. I tried rushing it the other day, and I basically ended up feeling like I didn't even have an item.

Late game it actually helped a lot because I sent the promoted minion top while I pushed out bot. The enemies came to deal with me, and it was pushing top lane giving us an advantage. It's pretty good too against a team with a lot fo armor. Get banner and zhonyas. Against someone like rengar/xin who does mostly physical damage, you can shrug off a good amount, and kite them through your turrets.