Talk:Elise/@comment-94.134.195.145-20121020060206

Tested her a bit and so far i have a few problems with her and i think she needs a few tweaks.

First is her human W. Its basically a Maokai sapling that you cant throw. There is no way in hell you hit anyone in lane unless they dive you like braindead monkeys. So i dont know how but they should change it. If it would ingore minions then they had to make it slower and lower the damage alot... so as i said im not really sure how to change it.

Lack of CC in spider form. The 1.5 stun is really nice when you can hit it (like Zyras snare but hits only one target). But once youre in spider form you have nothing to keep the enemy from running. Rylais would be cool but the spiderlings dont proc it and so theres only your Q left which isnt really spammable and on a short range. Let the spiderlings proc Rylais for the diminished effect and it'll be fine.

Not sure if its a bug or intended but you cant decide where to jump with your Rappel. You can only jump to enemies but not a certain location. When you use it without an enemy near you you will land where u started. I know it has a huge ass range and a untargetable + jump with that range would be quite op so maybe lower the range a bit.

Fairly weak ratios. ONLY % health ratios arent good. With the coming DFG nerf the obvious first item will be much weaker too. As mentioned before the other ratios dont really count cause you never hit with your W and your spiderlings will just be kited. So i'd suggest give the Spider Q a flat 10% missing health and an AP ratio to the base damage. If you compare it with Jayce E (i know its op) then you will see why its a big difference. Even with 600 AP you wont get near Jayces damage without any items.

Those are my thoughts so far. It would maybe not wise to make ALL of the changes but she needs a few tweaks in my opinion. At least for midlane. Didn't try her jungling yet but it seems quite promising. Maybe im just wrong and shes an awesome jungler and doesnt need changes at all because she shouldnt go mid.