Talk:Zilean/@comment-121.54.41.121-20110530162825/@comment-3165723-20110612214656

10 seconds reasonable and challenging? how many skirmishes between a couple people lasts ten seconds? how long is someone at low enough health to be deserving of the revive buff gonna remain alive before they die and use the revive? ten seconds isn't challenging at all, just throw it on someone when they're about half health and they're guaranteed survival. Zilean's ult is basically a targettable version of Tryndamere's, can you imagine if tryndamere had a 10 second ultimate? being able to prevent death and (when stacking ap) bring a tank back to life with full health is broken in itself, especially if they make as easy as they do to get it off. 7 seconds is still pretty generous in my opinion, especially when considering the tanky dps meta, a zilean can make the other team waste their time and cooldowns bursting down a carry by just bringing it back to full health at a whim. generally, the stronger an ability is, the more difficult it should be to use it well. and when you have a revive on a 40 second cooldown it should at least take some measure of skill to use it well, not just "HERP DERP THAT GUY'S LOW HEALTH, R-CLICK"