Talk:Riven/@comment-5209745-20131204175508/@comment-4834593-20131205161450

Okay, I admit, I haven't done it often yet. However, Riven is a fast jungler, and if you get a smiteless first buff and immediately walk over to the second buff, you get there at the LAST while the enemy is busy with his buff. Drink pot, go in with your triple Q and W. No level 2 in this game can 1v1 a Riven with red pot and either buff, so it's either a kill or the enemy jungler backing and 3 buffs for you, 1 for him. On top of that, I DID play enough Riven jungle to be able to say for sure she is GREAT at getting kills in lanes, and on top of that, you don't know what numbers you use. One kill is already about as much as a red pot is worth, two kills, or one kill and two assists, is a red pot + long sword. Add to that that jungling is faster and safer with a red pot, and it pays off very easily.

PS If you want to say "laners will help their jungler at higher elos", the elo where people get map awarness to help their invaded jungler is the same elo where people get the map awareness to help their invading jungler.