Talk:Armor penetration/@comment-60.241.118.81-20120731134728/@comment-59.180.7.63-20120801162238

To make it clearer:

1) Renekton Slices. At this point cleaver isn't even considered (since this is not an on-hit ability). The armor simply gets reduced by 35% for the next four seconds. (you applied cleaver here in your calculations, and followed the logical order. It is not applied on abilities).

2) At this point target's armor to be considered is 65 (100-35%). Renekton presses W. Three auto attacks are followed and cleaver is applied twice (cleaver debuff applies after first hit). After one more auto, full stacks of cleaver are applied.

3) At this point, the armor is 65 - 45 = 20. All these calulations were done assuming he pulls this off in 4 seconds followed by dice.