Talk:Stoneborn Pact/@comment-24702580-20170315195256/@comment-27004415-20170317011211

I tried this on some range supports and it didn't feel super bad but surely not optimal. How I played an aram with ivern and though it's aram, this is why it felt relevant for testing stoneborn pact on him : I was matched with a soraka, and we both built redemption. Let's assume we healed for the same amount with this item, then what's left is what she healed with her spells compared to what I healed with stoneborn. In the end, I healed for 25% of what she healed (12k healing vs 41k). I feel like that's actually huge, if you compare the kit she has that revolves around healing and Ivern's that revolves around shielding. Now I know that in the rift, the overall healing from stoneborn pact would be less, especially with a jungler (but so is the damage, because laners should always do more damage because of the skirmishes); but that does not mean it's not impactful. What's more is that ivern build almost solely items that will enhance the healing (and ardent censer is in his core build), and is a melee champion, so you get the full effect from this mastery.

Ok now I have to try it with Ivern in the rift, I hope it's gonna be good.