Talk:Swain/@comment-7460908-20130731221150/@comment-7967732-20130808004833

Cass is rarely used ... true. She is one hell of a risky pick.

Karthus & Ryze are NOT used only a few times. Maybe only in EU (arguably the worst region at pro level play atm). They are one of the most picked/banned in Asia & NA. In China, Ryze is even more picked/banned than the kind of Elise, Nunu. If you don't know this fact, then don't try to out smart others with that "then you didn't see any of the LCS matches" bullshit.

And who would max Q second unless it's top lane Swain vs Elise, Wukong or Vlad?