Talk:Veigar/@comment-78.92.250.82-20121022125140/@comment-46.109.23.1-20121031211702

if u read wiki it says athenes and his passive don&apos;t stack lol

so you&apos;ve been wasting gold/his passive with this... just get mana or mana regen and ur good - dorans rings+roa or tog into aa later+rylai for hp later, if u think u can survive.