Talk:Gragas/@comment-4680018-20120709044752/@comment-99.230.173.138-20120709082004

I wouldn't call myself an expert on it, but I think it could go either way. Gragas' attack damage bonus along with the good barrel damage can give him quite an advantage fighting Kennen close-up like Kennen will wants to as well, but stunning Gragas would obviously let Kennen win.

Kennen has some pretty obvious tells with his abilities to let you barrel him - namely his E. Every time he turns into a cokeball, you can tell what he wants to do from two choices, the two being:

1. Charge at you, which lets you place a barrel in his route, preferably moving behind some minions as well to stop him from using his Q on you. Should he pass by your minions, try juking his Q by moving away from him and then off to a side. Unless he hit you with his W passive or its up after he uses E and he missed Q, you're going to win the trade.

2. Strike your minions, likely for the sustain. Well, he's obviously going to want to pass through all the minions, right? Thus, place a barrel at the end of the minions he wasn't at the start. In addition, him using his E for this purpose may leave him vulnerable for you to E him, followed by some Drunken Rage'd autoattacks and a Q.

In general, your successes will come down to hitting Q on him while avoiding his stun, or juking his Q and proceeding to hit everything on him including your fists.

Obviously, try to stand behind your minions to not let him Q you. Or better yet, stand away from them to coax him into shooting it at you, and then use that to hit your own Q on him, proceeding to back off. Your Q's damage will pretty much also beat his.

Also, Kennen using his ultimate on you while you're by your turret is likely a free kill if you hit him into your turret with your ultimate and the health differences aren't too great.

It's pretty tough though, especially considering Kennen's affinity for WotA and is largely going to come down to which of you has the better skill.

But this is all for trying to fight Kennen. Gragas may also just be extra-careful to deal with some slow-farming early levels to later get some AP and levels into Q to easily farm down minions waves instantly if you fear Kennen enough. Gragas' ultimate also messes up Kennen's pretty badly with some good aim, so that will be a very useful trait of yours as long as you don't completely lose the lane to him.