Talk:Twisted Fate/SkinsTrivia/@comment-187.14.55.113-20121024165429/@comment-89.78.90.184-20121026145240

Riot has a mind of its own, so to speak, and hiding behind the "people wanted it" is a weak defense. They don't do nerf according to the popular demand, do they? They do them according to what they feel has to be done.

The idea that the forums represent any significant part of the community is patently ridiculous. There are two million people playing the League per day. The polls had what, maybe a couple thousand votes? They represent maybe 0,1% of the population.

Then there are problems inherent with forum polls, susceptibility to being played, being divided between the regions, not being in the center in the attention, and so on. There is also the part where many people won't give much thought to the answer, and think maybe for a minute before casting their vote in a matter that will impact the game for years.

Arguing that "those who care" is a No True Scotsman argument. Just because someone doesn't frequent the forums does not somehow make him or her less of a LoL player, or a less valued one. One does not need to have a forum account to enjoy the game and its content. Not participating in what is effectively a non-essential offspring of the game does not deprive of an opinion of the central matter.

This is not some presidential election. This is an unmarketed, unpromoted poll in a game forum with a handful of people. Not expecting it to be the deciding factor is a perfectly sensible approach.

And finally, even assuming againt all reason that the poll represents the opinion of the majority of the players, and that they all thought about their vote beyond "I don't want anyone else to use my skin", it is still a data point. The decision belongs to Riot alone. This is ultimately why pointing to the polls as an argument-stopper is in fact poisoning it. Because you scapegoat the people into being guilty of this, while it was Riot who ultimately agreed, and made the move. They are not obliged to do it. They are a big, independent company, and besides, they do unpopular stuff all the time - see balance, skin edits and other stuff.

The core of OPs complaint is actually that from a logical point of view, the decision makes no sense. His argument is valid, as far as I can tell. Pointing out the polls is fine, but it does not excuse Riot nor negate the argument. How about addressing the actual issue instead of awkwardly dodging it?