Talk:VPBE/@comment-24795478-20140429093405/@comment-7992038-20140502223554

I think having it provide stacks on kill and assist makes up for most of the nerfs. It wasn't really what the item did that was the biggest issue with it, it was the mindset/playstyle that came with it. It rewarded the player for doing absolutely nothing but neutral creep farming instead of being a laning phase/mid game presence. Given it was a pretty high reward for doing so but it promoted sort of toxic self centered gameplay that had a tendancy to drag out games. Something as simple as providing your mid with blue would set you back just enough to potentially fall behind your opposing jungler. Not to mention its super frustrating when your nocturne hits lvl6 but is nowhere to be seen until about lvl11 or 12.