Talk:Gangplank/@comment-26331429-20160924101455

You see, this champion is managing to get everyone's hate. Some complain about the free gold gain, others complain about the power of his global ultimate and some even complain about his 'free' heal. You can't even argue back with 'but these things were always there' or 'it's part of his thematic' because now Gangplank is 'a new champion'. So what are we left with? The barrels. Despite all the nerfs to it, and even more nerfs elsewhere, Gangplank still revolves around his barrels. He is weak when his barrels are weak, and the opposite is true. Most of the time he only shoots barrels, and when he has none he simply can't play (out of lane phase).

His early was nerfed to shitty stats and he has no reliability because his barrels are terrbile to use until level 7, so he shoots with Q the entire lane phase like a potato. This always happened but wasn't fixed with the rework. But now, with the barrels, he can completely zone away most melees. And then he farms and farms, playing like a slave to his late game, which comes around level 13. Ring any bells?

People are asking to remove the bonus gold from his Q and the global range of his ultimate. That's because these things helps him grow faster, but the bonus gold is only a problem because of the clear wave of the barrels, and the ultimate is only a problem because of its upgrades. In the end, people are asking to remove everything that made him who he was for the sake of the barrels. Is this trade really worth?

Don't get me wrong, the barrels mechanics are genial and I applaud who had the ideia, but it has its problems. The rest of the kit has to be weak so the barrels can be strong, but the barrels may fail and then Gangplank is useless. And because they can fail, the barrels must be strong when they succeed, like, really strong. And when they do, Gangplank's too powerful. So, regardless of how many times you nerf the rest of his kit, Gangplank will continue to be strong as long as his barrels are strong. Just like Fiora's vitals, which are broken by themselves. Whatever nerf you apply to his other abilites, the barrels will continue to deal 1000+ damage in the end of the day. If you prioritize the rest of his kit, the barrels will have to undergo heavy changes.

And the one thing that leaves me even more perplexed: Gangplank's rework came because he had a toxic gameplay. So tell me, what changed after all?

All that said, I have a simple question: Gangplank's core thematics or his barrels? Choose one.