User blog comment:Leyrann/Hard counters./@comment-70.251.130.177-20120730223658/@comment-70.251.130.177-20120731190505

Yes on "some champions" then that means there is an advantage given at character select which is my entire point of the hard counter. Certain champs have an advantage over other champs. Which is one of the reasons for draft mode, to counter pick your opponent's champion. While it doesn't always happen in solo que because people are selfish. In competitive play, top and mid lane will always the the last position chosen.

Your argument now has completely changed meaning. You are no longer relying on yourself to build the right item to counter your opponent but instead relying on them to build the wrong item to give up their advantage.

But if they are on equal skill level then why would Jax buy the wrong item. Does that mean Fiora does the same thing and build the wrong items as well? Itemizing yourself correctly is part of your skill in this game. Relying on your opponent to screw up on their build is not a "hard counter".

Even if Jax buys the right items, I said before in my first post picking Jax against Fiora is not a sure win because no two players are exactly the same in terms of player skill.

But under ideal circumstances, Jax has a clearcut character advantage over Fiora throughout the entire game. If Fiora uses Burst of Speed Jax can use his ult to lower her damage over the entire duration + 5seconds after. If she uses Blade Waltz Jax presses E and negates all the damage. What does Fiora negate with her W? Does she time it to negate every third strike of Jax's passive ult or does she save it for when Jax uses his W? It's pick your poison choice and either way Fiora loses.

This is why Jax is a hard counter to Fiora.