Talk:Vi/@comment-9705522-20130722153631/@comment-9705522-20130811093516

let me ask you a question. surely you remember the time where everyone picked vi. why was that? she got outdamaged by xin, had worse early ganks and more clearing problems. of course, the answer is a nobrainer. she has insanely good initiation. i mean, what isnt good initiation about her? her ult is basically a targetted malphite ult which has even more range thanks to her q. and yes, she can burst down and still live. very easily even. lets assume the ad carry has only 1 defensive item, and lets say its a warmogs. lets say its a vayne, that means that given runes and everything at lvl 18 she has about 75 armor and 2913 hp. now vi goes in, lets say she has black cleaver and bork, and other than that defensive items. her burst now is, assuming she has ad runes and stuff, 450+1.4*115,3+1*ad+5%current hp+65+1.15*ad+5%current hp+65+1.15*ad+5%current hp+13%max hp*15%max hp. lets see.611.42. now armor. 5% reduced, 8% ignored and 15 ignored. that means on her ult its reduced by 50.55 armor. reduced down to 66% of damage, thats 407.61 damage on her ult. vayne now has 2505 hp. now one normal attack, thats 218.3+5% of 2505. thats 125.2. total damage of that attack is 343.5. this time vaynes armor is reduced by 10%. that means vayne has 47.1 effective armor. reduced down to 68%. effective damage is 233.58, vayne now has 2271 hp. next attack is 65+1.15*ad+5% of 2271, thats 429 damage. this time vaynes armor is 43 and damage is reduced to 70%. 300 damage, vaynes hp is now 1971. another e attack, which is 316+5% of 1971, which is 99 damage, so 414 total damage. however, this time vis w is also procd, so the armor is reduced even more. so vaynes armor this time is ((75-20%)-20%)-8%-15. thats 33. damage reduced only to 76%. so damage is 314.64, vaynes hp is now 1657. now however vi also got the max hp damage from her w. thats 13% of 2913 reduced by 76%. thats another 288 damage, so thats vaynes hp dropping down to 1369. now vi uses bork, which deals 15% of 2913 damage, which is 437. the armor is reduced even more, now being only 26 armor. only 80% reduction, so its 349, vaynes hp now is only 1020. and that is the amount of damage you can get without vayne having any chance of fighting back, while only having 2 offensive items, and having 4410 effective hp with shields and all and about 210 armor. of course, vayne is now not able to go back into the fight, else she is dead. she has to run away, and hope that vi doesnt kill her. i rest my case.