Talk:Zed/@comment-5211662-20150106024616/@comment-15280970-20150116174800

@newstandard 'Then someone gets armor and GG WP because you deal zero bloody damage 80% of the time and you spent 15+ minutes farming a 3800G item that does nothing for your laning phase. '

Hmmm... IE is bought as the last item (after GA) by 350 cs zeds. It is not a laning or early game item, it is a late game damage overkill.

'Now that QSS is cheaper than ever, his late mid-game is pretty much worse than it ever was. '

Most of you think QSS is the ideal zed counter, it just removes the mark, the ability that zed has to kill enemies doesn't come from Death Mark damage, it comes from his burst mobility, from his reliability, from the fact that during those 6 seconds he will ensure that his target dies.

And after his nerfs, zed was buffed in every possible way (I took the time to make a list of zed buffs):

After his nerfs most of his mid lane competitors (Kassa LB Ahri Zilean Akali Orianna Ziggs Talon Lulu Gragas Yasuo Nidalee) were nerfed. KAYLE was even removed from mid lane. IE was buffed, BoTRK was buffed (% damage benefits him a lot). AD carries were buffed (therefore killing them over AOE magic damage was buffed). Lacking Magic damage isn't detrimental to your team anymore because AD just scales so good.

Then pushing and ending the game faster... Yeah turrets and minions give more gold, roaming and getting assists isn't worth over just AFK pushing and farming (because his pushing abilities aren't linked to his escape). Then junglers... can barely get to lvl 3 half hp so they can't avoid zed killing the enemy mid laner at his stronger early levels. The dragon buffs...

If we ban Zed at High leagues it isn't because his early game has no counterplay. It is because any noob can pick him and do well with him without real effort. From shadow-referenced names to Support players with a protagonism crysis. If you leave zed free he will be first picked and even if he loses lane at first he will keep a decent farm, he will not lose his turret and he will kill the enemy carry at any moment of the game.