Talk:Renekton/@comment-4948122-20120716210931/@comment-5009341-20120717065206

^pretty much, yes

i usually need laso only a few games to play a champ good, but unfortunuatly i usually suck the first game (really really really really bad) then i have to wait sometime till my brain analyses the champ so much that i can develop a strategy of my induvidual usage (mostly very very very very different from other concepts), then my actuall learning process only starts

thats also the reason i hate guide whores, they never use their brain and lead vast losses and frustrating losing streaks, siv helped a lot with his vlog to move the comunitty from the guides to their own ways and methods to face a problem, cause a guide wont work in every situation but only in some (else the guide would have to be like 100 pages long)

with mastering i mean that u can face any situation (any enemymatchups/allymatchups/counterpicks/opcombos/...) and still win the game cause u adapt ur actions to the situation better then the enemy, which is important for victory.

i prefer to call this strategic/tactic thinking rather then math, but u are right it has its paralells

i try champ in very different ways to see whether my theoretical concept was right or not, e.g.: thats why i know in which situation it is better to max q/w/e or w/e/q or e/q/w...whether to play onhitnekton or carrynekton and also how to play a real tanknekton

which summoner spells to pick, which masteries to choose, which runepages will be most effective, which strategy will help my team most, whether hardcore push so the enemy cant lasthit under there turret cause else they will suffer from my q, or to overpush the lane only when i am about to gank another lane, so that my enemy has to choose between allies and farm... (to many other things to mention)