Talk:Evelynn/@comment-153.19.194.9-20120731190035/@comment-94.134.192.196-20120801074536

How is Skarner weak to counterjungling? If he finds you in his jungle he just beats the crap out of you unless your name is Olaf or Trundle. Also the "new" Eve is still really weak cause they took her tiny little bit of CC and put it into a huge ass cooldown ult. So ganks without ult are super weak without CC in the lane and a careful enemy. And dont argue with Red cause everyone can have Red and its not champ specific. She has the same mana issues as Skarner but Skarner can buy gp5 including Philo to be fine while Eve cant do that. She also cant counterjungle herself against good sustain jungler cause her base stats and her own sustain is terrible for a jungler.

The coming buffs will make it a bit easier but im not sure if it is enough.