Talk:Vayne/@comment-7633726-20130730211615/@comment-5057599-20130801234443

@Danica1708 To be fair there is no reason for Thresh to get past the bans in champion select because he's just above any support in the game right now. The nerfs didn't even touch him tbh. You should just avoid having the enemy team picking him because he's a first pick/ban for any team.

That said you should have zero trouble with Blitz or Nidalee. Vayne and Ezreal are the absolute worst match-ups for Blitz because they will never be grabbed unless you walk up to them to use E first. Blitz might be tankier than Janna for example, but it doesn't really matter when he gets auto'd 3x every time he tries to land a grab and misses. Nidalee doesn't even count, she becomes a joke of a support after your first trip back.

I reiterate, Caitly is annoying but she's more than manageable for Vayne. I'd much rather face Cait than Twitch, Tristana or Varus.

@LyzeUH I guess so. I think she's in a better place after the nerf to her ult cd and her E range, but the fact that Riot insisted in nerfing every single carry that stomped her in lane admittedly pushed her over the top. I still think the way to balance Vayne is to nerf Barrier, nerf BotRK (and I mean proper nerfs, not a 1 sec reduction on the slow lmao) and buff some of the other carries. She still takes a lot of skill to play properly and that's why she's such a common ban at higher elos.