Talk:Elise/@comment-9051002-20130502173910/@comment-7707879-20130505004822

Zeriel00 "I love how Riot thinks is a good idea to make melee forms suicide in melee"

No, Riot thinks that champons who already have the benefit of range should only be mixing it up in melee to finish off vulnerable targets. You can't be both a ranged bully and a tanky melee bully, that's called having everything. It's fairly clear that Nidalee's Q in cougar form is an assassination skill, and it's fairly clear that Elise's Q in spider form is an assassination skill, but at the moment Elise's W (in spider form) allows her to outdamage and out tank (through sustain) even most bruisers top. Riot is pushing Elise and Nidalee players toward finishing off and assassinating opponents in melee.

Taxidriver256 "And people keep qq for her being a bruiser shredder, while it is her intended job. Is the league really that obsessed with bruisers?"

I'd like to hear if others disagree, but I find Elise top as a bruiser counter really troubling, I don't think the game should ever be reduced to such obvious and hard counters (i.e. where they are egregious balance changes should be applied). She's simply too good at tearing a lot of tops apart at the moment, and Riot are always going to balance around that (nerfing her and such) because players are simultaneously always going to abuse it as long as she has that capacity - and it's as simple as that.