Talk:Garen/@comment-2248060-20120815180036/@comment-2248060-20120816013141

@Akujinb0k im defending him because 1. i like him as a champ and 2. i haent noticed the nerf AT ALL 5 games with him building what i usually do and i wreked every one.

so whatif he has no CC? he doesnt rely on ganks for kills during the laning phase. so what if they ruined his laning phase? wait they didnt they made it neglibaly worse. in teh end hes still teh same champion you just dont have to farm your w any more letting you take it later than befoe (i took it at level 9 and i sitll didn't die until i was 1v3ed twice by the jungler the top laner and the AP carry that got fed to legendary and then i still killed 2 of them). just like new champions people need to learn the changes on reworks, give it a week or so for people to redo builds and you'll see that hes actually better. this was not a nerf at all it was a margnal buff that made him viable again. my last words to you are: if you don't like change dont play online games because they always will have some changes eventualy.

oh and anon you get as much damage with fratmogs as you do with IE, actually more if you have the right runes, and atma's gives Crit too. besides i listed what? 4 items? i never siad dont get IE in teh first palce i just said i build fratmogs first and it works fine, assuming you can quickly farm up Warmogs.