Talk:Garen/@comment-25544937-20151022221222/@comment-26231232-20151027220149

If laning phase security is your concern, then it's not worth it. By the time those W points start making a difference (lvl 10+) laning phase is most likely already over. However, for drawn out midgame skirmishes/teamfights, it's definitely a possibility. Q doesn't provide meaningful changes when levelled, as you mentioned, only a bigger MS boost duration, which Dead Man's Plate can help you with, as you also mentioned. So it basically boils down to if you're taking too much damage after W is over, or if your team lacks meaningful engages (not that Garen's Q is a good engage, but it's better than nothing).