Talk:Trundle/@comment-5125881-20130415210224/@comment-7487286-20130416014917

Easy math: (Let's say we dont have any bonus AD or armpen)

AA = 55

Q-rework = ((55+20)*0.8)+10 = 70

AA+active Q = 55+20 = 75

So basically the spell deals more damage in comparison to a normal AA but less damage to an AA in the buff window after activating it.