Talk:Zac/@comment-9775822-20160706032711/@comment-29037273-20160919071712

Personally i like to go with w first clear krugs then e second, which is litteraly something i've seen 0 other people do on this champion. But if you have some experience you can jump striaght from krugs into red, then kill it with w only, then e will litteraly be up in like 1 second and straight to wraiths.

After that you should be lv.3 and in a great position to gank mid if you want to, but if your like me and don't use ANY pots at all you should be around 200-250 hp depending on your top laners leash, so usually i just keep jungling. I walk over to wolves (E is usually up by the time wolves are in aa range) and kill those, then to blue and finnaly gromp.

I've found that path is so efficent that i can usually use the Krugs smite bonus on the blue buff, gromp still won't have respawned if bot lane took it lbv.1, and I usually hit lv.4 when most junglers just finish lv.3. Which is just insane.

I usually go with magic pen marks/ flat armor seals/ then all scaling cdr glyphs/quints if that helps and Tailsman+refil pot