Talk:VPBE/@comment-24795478-20151101161436/@comment-35229418-20151101211306

The Juggernauts' defining trait isn't lacking (hard) CC (though some do), it's lacking mobility. Skarner has a slow and a stun, Darius has a pull. They're broken right now because ADCs (the ones that are supposed to destroy them) are subpar. Once this majork rework gets on live, I'm pretty sure they won't need nerfs. Except for Darius's heal on Q, maybe.

This Graves looks like a squishier (though still tanky) Mordekaiser that has a dash to compensate.