Talk:Nocturne/@comment-10873040-20150712030504/@comment-14081808-20150712203631

And, sure it has the same delay as a Shaco box, but Shaco boxes fear EVERYONE nearby. There is an obvious trade off. Now, we could say that you trade damage for delay (compared to Fiddle), but he typically goes AD (since this is his sole AP scaling ability). It's not doing a ton of damage, so the damage tradeoff is poor.

Fiddle can use and do a ton of damage during his fear because it's instant. Shaco... I should not have to explain him; might as well be teemo shrooms. Hecarim's hits multiple people for lots of damage, and is instant but he trades all that for it being his ult. For a 2 sec (eternity) delay, Noc gets... 260 Magic damage scaling with 100% AP when he doesn't build AP (except maybe TF). His is just obviously the worst of the bunch.