User blog comment:Fistful of Force/Cast heals early, not late./@comment-76.103.140.128-20120613184157/@comment-4615536-20120614105019

Hm Not really; The AD can still be squishy when you have a Karma, its just that the Bruiser and Jungler need to be alot more tanky as they'll need to tank alot more IE. Malphite top instead of Darius.

Graves only gets more resistances than the other AD carries 'cause of his passive, he doesnt really excell that much in HP (Varus gets 2 hp less per lvl), but to be honest i havent really tried Karma Graves, cause as soon my teammates see Karma theyre like "OMFG not a Worthless Karma" but as soon as i get the chance ill try ;)

WindShaman 10:50, June 14, 2012 (UTC)