Talk:Shen/@comment-76.93.19.248-20110916090734

They put Shen in a really awkward position. What I'm used to (and what we all know and love) is an APless Shen that could do damage and be tanky at the same tiime. So technically he was the first tanky dps. But after his damage/shield nerfs and then buff to AP ratios he looks like a messed up caster tank more focused on AP. But their is only 2 items that give HP and AP without mana/mana regen, both of which I see as a waste of time or a way of saying that he is a full caster (which he is not.) I'm not saying this change was a bad change but the item set for the game right now just doesn't match with Shen's current playstyle. Before the nerfs all you needed was a sunfire cape and you were all set for damage. And I admit, this felt OP as hell. So we all knew nerfs were coming, aka the Shen ban in ranked games before. So when they nerfed him we had already tasted the power of other tanky dps and decided that he was useless buecause he had no damage compared to other champions. At that point I QQ'd and stopped playing Shen for like a whole year. So when I picked him up again, I still was able to harass 2 enemy champs giving an Ashe free farm bot for a good 10 minutes or so. I didn't change my playstyle at all since the Shen nerfs, just had to change the build. Getting a frozen mallet was something I would of never gotten on prenerf shen, but I needed another way of harass that I could do after Shadow dash. This is where I get into the problem of AP Shen, unless you spam vorpal blade you aren't doing damage. Shen's passive? That doesn't do much even if you go HP drunk Shen. Don't even bother saying don't spam, other than his vorpal he can only aa to do damage or get a sunfire or thornmail but that was only good before when he had damge from his passive because shen was super scary, that was why people had to make the choice of running away or fight knowing that Shen could possible destroy the squishes or disrupt the carries. *cough* tanky dps *cough.* If anything I am sad in the direction that they are pushing Shen, but I'll still play him. <3 Shen <3 Might as well try a hunting guise and a will of the ancients. Maybe try a Guinsoo's Rageblade. Need to experiment more. -_-