Talk:Shyvana/@comment-195.255.102.2-20130124074809/@comment-178.166.24.118-20130128022143

^ Fact: Shyvana wasn't designed to be a counterjungler or a jungler at all. She was designed to be a top laner, as a less annoying female version of Singed. But in early S2 people figured out how fast her jungle clear was and how gamebreaking it could be to control both jungles with an hyperagressive jungler. For two or three tournaments straight you didn't see anything other than Shyvana, Mundo, Lee Sin and Nocturne in the jungle. Riot's obvious solution was to nerf them all. And so the invading junglers in the competitive scene era came to an end and the tanky support junglers and gold generation items rose to power. And Riot's obvious solution was to nerf Nautilus, Alistar, Amumu, Malphite and Skarner, only leaving Maokai and Cho untouched, while nuking the sh!t out of gold items. But sadly the AoE clears and early gankers were still the best jungle picks, so Riot proceeds to increase jungle damage and increase jungle resilience while leaving the gold income pretty much the same...

But I digress. Ya, jungling sucks these days. And no, Shyvana wasn't originally a jungler, just an underplayed top laner.