Talk:Graves/@comment-60764-20140725145620/@comment-15244341-20140728111303

Actually, the big issue with him is that he is a short range AD caster plus an ADC. ADC=away from dudes. His skit is antisynergystic with how his main role is played, which is fine early game when your passive makes you pretty tanky in small fights so that you can go balls deep vs 2 people with your support backing you up. However, when midgame comes, his passive is more of an afterthough and his steroid is in his escape, so that you have to either commit to a fight with it or be crappy at autoattacking (y u do dis rito, pls buff base attack speed).

That said, Leona+Graves is a really funny lane to play. Full of murder and no one dies goodness. BTW, try health per level yellows. I find it better midgame and lategame than the armor and if you can survive in a fight you are getting the armor either way.