Talk:Veigar/@comment-498605-20150319141730/@comment-5172617-20150325223157

I agree on some points and disagree on others. AP farming is so easier right now. I easily reach +200 Ap from the passive (then Rabadon bonus and masteries). Double farming with the spell is actually really possible. The hitbow is pretty big and the speed of the projectile/casting animation is way better than before. New Q is good and you can really use it to harass and farm at the same time.

Problem of Veigar is that he will has ton of troubles to land his stun on any experienced player (save teamfights). And if you don't land E, neither you will land W. So you either have the jungler help or you have nearly no way to kill your target (other than whittling them down with Q poke then finishing with R). Bard also could be a good friend: he ults from faraway, then you put the stun right on their face. When they leave stasis, they will be instantly stunned and you have time to blow them up.