Talk:Ekko/@comment-25223119-20151007194220/@comment-11218751-20151008180204

To be really honest, I don't believe it for a second when you tell me this isn't hatred of Ekko, when it clearly is.

You mentioned you were more on winning side when facing against Ekko, yet you said the only AP mid laner  that that can go toe-to-toe with Ekko is Ahri. Unless in almost of your winning matches against Ekko mid your teams have Ahri mid, you are basically contradicting yourself.

Tank Ekko basically sacrifices his excellent AP ratio for worse shield strength and damage than normal AP Ekko. While you can argue whether or not his base damage on all of his abilities need further nerfs to eliminate tank Ekko, there are a lot of ways to outplay Ekko because his abilities are very telegraphic. You have access to the information of his ultimate whenever you have vision of him because of his shadows, and you know when he W for 3 seconds whenever you pay attention to his animations and sound effects, or 0.5 second even if you hsve no idea where Ekko is. His abilities are very hit-and-miss: difficult to pull off but can be extremely rewarding whenever you successfully pull them off. Ekko relies on enemies' mispositioning and misplays to actually perform his job well. Most of the times it's enemies' fault for letting Ekko to stun, slow and kill them. I really doubt he needs either his damage or survivability reduced because there are a lot of counter measures against him. An immobilizing spell alone can doom Ekko because he can't use his ultimate when he is immobilized. And once he falls behind, he is squishy and deals little damage thanks to the lack of AP. He needs AP to function as much as any other AP assassins, if not more.