Talk:Garen/@comment-4542190-20140115020752/@comment-9224869-20140210105848

Irelia can sustain against Garen fairly well. When that Silence wears off, Irelia is in your face, and the conditions are right for her stun. If Irelia builds BotRK and beefs up( which she usually does), Garen's gonna have a problem. A good Irelia can be a pain in the ass for Garen. A great one will give Garen a run for his money.

Trundle's passive, plus a few regen items can keep up. Not to mention his Q reduces AD, so Garen's loses quite a bit of his damage because of a single skill. Trundle's E is great for rejecting that spin. And don't even think of engaging a Trundle in his Frozen Domain without your Q and E, which wouldn't be as effective with the penalty from Chomp. Courage isn't that helpful when it gives Trundle more MR and Armor, whilst healing him. Then there's his passive. It's not that noticable, but it really adds up. Not to mention that 1 point of damage from Pillar of Ice won't negate the passive heal.