Talk:Evelynn/@comment-25855686-20170927142500/@comment-31922769-20170928183935

You can make any champion sound op by describing their abilities. Rammus is this crazy champ with a point-and-click 2.25 second hard cc that also gives him free attack speed! An AoE magic damage ability with 240 base damage and 100% AP scaling! Crazy amounts of map mobility! An AoE ult with 960 base damage and 160 AP scaling that also progressively slows everyone around him! A huge armor/magic resist steroid that also makes ADCs kill themselves by attacking him! Armor Scaling! Super tanky! Op!

The fact is you can spin almost any champ to sound like the most amazing, op champ ever. But the reality is Evelynn now has far less AP scaling on her kit than she had before. DHer hate spike does flat out less damage than before (both base and scaling is less), even including all the extras folded into it. And you have to spend time casting it which you didn't before. Only advantage of new Hate Spike is lower overall mana use. Think about it.