Talk:Malzahar/@comment-24309189-20140922041323/@comment-8506165-20141105034717

"You're telling me "Your conclusions are baseless... even though you based it on reasons I agree with.""

Roses are red. Roses are flowers. Therefore all flowers are red. Q.E.D.? I agree with your premises, but I don't think the conclusion is a necessary result of them being true. I make a point of mentioning Worlds specifically because Ryze is higher-tier in competitive at the moment than in SoloQ, so I went with the "higher skilled" option in which he's undisputably pretty top-tier. My apologies if you thought I was accusing you of saying it just because Ryze is played in Worlds.

If we're talking sustained damage without long CD ults then we have to consider the likes of Swain, Cassiopeia, Azir... these can all potentially do more single-target DPS than Ryze, although it depends who they're fighting as to whether or not their ties to a more typical AP build (Swain somewhat excepted - he rarely builds full glass that I've seen) are a hindrance or a help. My problem with your comments really isn't that you think Ryze is good in a duel - he is - but that it's some sort of undisputable conclusion that Ryze is the best of all mage duelists by some margin. :p