Talk:Garen the Night of Demacia/@comment-208.95.49.148-20111206040853

Q has been nerfed a few times already in patches. Garen is not OP; he is often played terribly by others and requires a certain amount of caution to play. In comparison to a champ like Tryndamere, Garen isn't OP. Garen's E is great early game, but quickly scales off by mid-late game if proper items aren't bought. His ult early game only seals kills at around 10% hp, and this goes up just a bit mid-late game. Garen is a good champ, but still overally, quickly shut out by an opposing team with strong CC, or against a champ like Xin. That's what will keep Garen out of Tier 1 in most situations.