Talk:Shaco/@comment-26815373-20151026174526/@comment-26815373-20151027063917

Odaswifteye said "Shaco isn't designed to be a support." The fact that he wasn't designed as such, yet can not only function as one currently, but fit the role thematically too, is a huge deal. On top of that, he excels at warding, better than any other 'real' support in the game. Also, my thesis is that Shaco should be a support. It is a moral question. How can we do good for Shaco? What is the right way to rework him? How can we do Shaco justice?

I don't know. I don't have any solutions, only notions and suggestions. I do think that of all the changes that could befall Shaco, making him more in line with other supports would be the least harmful. Yes, it is entirely possible Riot would completely blow us away, grant all our wishes, and make all our dreams come true with the perfect rework that garners no complaints or criticisms. But how often has that happened?

Making Shaco a Support Assassin would largely be an issue of rebranding more than anything. Riot would be like, "Hey guys, we gave Shaco some QoL buffs, and a touch of extra utility and scaling. Turns out that was all he needed. Go figure. Oh, and we made his primary role description 'Support' and his secondary 'Assassin' because... flavor. Mmmm delicious."

Honestly, I'm terribly afraid he's just going to get pushed into an AD caster role like Zed or Talon. As it stands he actually takes careful position of himself, boxes, clone, and judicious use of his Q and E, and basic attacks! Just about every proposed 'rework' I see not only dramatically changes his play pattern, but actually gives him greater burst for a full rotation with no additional counterplay for his opponent. And then people say, 'Yes! This is what Shaco needs! Higher ratios! More burst! Resets! Resets! Resets!'

All ranting aside, I shouldn't be here to win converts. I am curious to know, though, just what are the 'specific criteria' that bot is so wired for? Also, still curious as to what you other guys think.

GL;HF

LBP