Talk:Shyvana/@comment-4929329-20121028023335/@comment-3217613-20121031154723

You don&apos;t need "faster clearing" past level 9 (assuming you max W first), so that&apos;s basically bullshit, since you pretty much rape camps with W anyways.

And you can&apos;t simply land Q if you&apos;re not in melee range, E can still be used as a poke if maxed first, you&apos;re going nowhere if you&apos;re not already on melee with Q. And, as said, only benefit of maxing Q is it&apos;s CD. Jungle-wise it&apos;s unnoticeable and on teamfights it&apos;s much easier to land E on multiple targets rather than Q.