Talk:Shyvana/@comment-10300926-20131119185603/@comment-5707860-20131121071402

@ myself v1.0

what? u say "shyv doesn't build that much AD to even make it worth." but then you tell him to max Q before E? also if the shyv is at the point where she has a triforce and is lvl 18 then there is no point to this discussion as all her skills will be maxed.

a maxed out Q at lvl 13 will deal 198 damage if no AD is built on her which is very common since most Shyv jungle will go full tank and rely on the base damage from her skills.

a maxed out E will deal 220 damage. while this is only slighly higher, it has three advantages over Q. first the damage dealt is magic which will generally(but not always) deal more damage since armor is more common as opposed to mr. second it has a 925 range which is self-explanatory. lastly, it pierces all enemies in a straight line and hitting 2 champs isnt too uncommon.