Talk:The Black Cleaver/@comment-188.230.249.170-20130124201427

Lol wtf... Darius needs bloodstack to use his full power of his ulty? garen just uses his ulty...

guys you are stupid... garen ult is good only if an opponent has low life! while at darius you only need bloodstacks and even after you used your ulty with darius they still have bloodstack and you can finish them with ignite (in worst case)...

darius ult is able to deal way more dmg than garens ult...whole normal MR reduces magic damage from garens ult and also items like hexdrinker can easily negate garens ult...then again if you kill someone with darius utl it is instantly refreshed

goodside of garens ult...you dont need mana and you cant get manastarved like darius

i cant tell how many times people ran of with 28hp or similar...bloodstacks would have finished it...and also the true dmg would have killed them instantly....

garen- phyisical dmg and magic dmg

darius- phyisical dmg. magic dmg(bloostacks) and true dmg

so stfu guys! darius ult is way better than garens

either nerf darius ult or buff garens ult...or something like that...