Talk:Riven/@comment-3460935-20160926043031/@comment-4834593-20161005192448

I don't really see how Riven beats Darius so easily. Yes, a bad Darius will get destroyed, but Darius has basically ignorable mana costs, as long as he doesn't waste his abilities, while he can sustain, slow and pull you back when you want to disengage. On top of that, he at the very least equals Riven in damage.

On the Riven E'ing away from Fiora: There's a lot of animation canceling to be done on Riven, but you can't cancel your third Q animation, which means you simply don't have enough time to dash out. The only way that it can work as far as I know (I've seen BoxBox do it) is flash away. And with the spacing out, if you manage to space out perfectly and hit Fiora with the third Q (which then obviously gets parried), you're stunned after, and at the point that Fiora stuns you, the damage she can put out is absolutely insane, as she can freely pick her vital, slow you, crit you or even ult you and freely pick all vitals, dealing damage similar to Riven, but having more sustain. On top of that, in laning phase, you don't have enough access to cooldown reduction yet, which means you're without a Q for some 4-5 seconds even if you spaced out your Q's as well as possible.

Tip for the Quinn matchup by the way: Use your Apprehend as soon as she Vaults, and you'll catch her mid-dash (at least, that's what I assume from the casting times, I have to admit I don't know the lane well because I seldomly play Darius and I haven't played Quinn at all since she wasn't a bot lane AD carry anymore).