Talk:Shaco/@comment-4012115-20121201201041/@comment-5172617-20121207021422

Actually, I find it way harder.

It was easy before to give aggro to boxes, you just needed to be a bit careful. Now it's easier but monsters are stronger (more hp, more damage) and they deal 50% bonus damage to pets. Technically, your boxes have only 107.5 health against monsters. Adding the fact that monsters hit way harder, your boxes will die before you even realize it. Same problem for elise spiderlings.

Stacking boxes is also less effective as it doesn't allow you to kill so easily the big monsters.

Other shitty fact is that it is very hard to jungle without machete. But machete is useless during ganks and shaco NEEDS to gank. So you get a simple choice:

- begin with boots or other item and bet everyting on ganks (your clear will suck)

- begin machete and hope to make it with mediocre ganks. But without ganks, you're sure to lose.

Before, you would get oracle as it would mess their wards. Now, once their supp hits 700 gold, he freely generates wards and oracle is a investment limited on time (ends in 5 minutes).

The end game itemization might have been solved a bit (shiv, scimitar, zephyr, new SOTD) but the early game issues are so big right now that I get the feeling that they killed Shaco jungle. As Shaco is nearly only jungle in SR, I could say they killed Shaco. It might be only an impression but time will tell.