Talk:Lee Sin/@comment-6061249-20141124134147/@comment-5077844-20141202233701

well, this is quite interesting, i thought he was weaker...

however, you do have to admit, Lee can't be played mindlessly now...you actually have to ahve a plan for jungling and ganking and manage your spells properly in order to be able to sustain through the jungle..I played him once before pre-season and once after, and I did notice that (because inexperience) i had a much harder time in the preseason, because i had to use my spells carefully (trying to get as much out of W's lifesteal and spellvamp as possible).

In other words...Lee Sin at least isn't the go-to instacarry jungler he was before (he's not a carry, but he can pretty much roll through early on all skill-levels if he gets ahead).

I kinda hope that the whole Warwick incident draws attention away from other currently strong junglers (Shyvana, Skarner (I think?), Elise, etc.)