Talk:Karma/@comment-10167113-20150728161915/@comment-1666421-20150731095339

I've had some more games with it now. It's important to quickly explain to ADCs how it works. (I find this works quite well: "You'll get stacks. At 100 stacks, go ham.") I 1000% agree that the support (or rather, the person holding Zeke's) should be the one to trigger the effect... But they might have chosen intentionally not to do that to curb some of the item's power (otherwise you could build stacks via ADC farming while you hide in the bush, and then trigger the effect every single time you choose to initiate a trade or all-in).

I'm looking forward to it stacking slower but lasting longer. I love the visual of it - someone described it as going "super Saiyan", which I really enjoy. :D

Something worth remembering is you can re-bind to another player every 60 seconds, which means in the late game, when you're not necessarily hanging out with your ADC all the time, you can apply the effect to whomever is convenient.

I've found that this item lets me get pretty insanely fed, which means I can often afford a Deathcap - leading to a (conditional) 55% AP boost.

About movement speed: not a bad idea, but Luden's and Lich Bane are really expensive. I don't think you'd get to do that often. Twin Shadows might be a good alternative to one of them, since it's cheaper and offers nice utility.