Talk:Sejuani/@comment-25532677-20141206201931/@comment-4022742-20141210101645

@YourPrivateNightmare I hear you say a couple of things, and there's just so much to disagree with, I can't even. But I will anyway! - "she's easily shut down early and has no way to really recover" - "Heck, early game, she can barely even finish someone at 15% HP off, if the gank backfires and your laner dies..." This is pretty much true for any tank jungler? She's heavily comparable to who both lack sustain, but get damage reduction in order to survive in the form of Frost Armor and Tantrum. Saying neither have a way to get back in the game is, to be fair, wrong. All it takes for them is to have 1 good teamfight where their ult lands on the right people and you are set with 2-5 assists with assist gold.

-"her ganks pre-6 aren't all that great" Are you kidding me? 's pre-6 ganks are none existant, 's pre-6 ganks aren't all that great, 's pre-6 ganks are okey, 's pre-6 ganks are good but 's? She gets a massive 50% slow which gives your lane partner a good chance to catch up/free shoot and on top of that has a gap closer to catch up to flash that knocks up again, giving your laner a chance to catch up/free shoot.

Not a single decently timed pre-6 gank that should not at least pop a flash, unless you face something like, or.

- "she can't jsut build damage and still be tanky and she can't jsut build tank and still get massive damage..." will deal damage, even more so when suffering from cc (guess what Sejuani does) if you pair it with the additional slow and CDR from you get pretty much all the damage you need. While still building tanky in the form of health and armor.

Pretty much anything you say about is weak as hell without a basis, especially when compared to her peers,  and the like.