Talk:Jax/@comment-24971427-20180710021159/@comment-36139385-20180710034717

Except you would be entirely wrong when it comes to "one of the most broken champs out there". What you are proposing is not "nerfs". It's gutting the champion, who mind you only has 51% winrate. So lets go in order.

Q nerfs: This would make it near impossible for him to get on *any* ADC's. He would be kited to hell, and fucked by any support. He would need to splitpush or do nothing. His teamfighting ability would drop dramatically. Good start dude.

E nerfs: Essentially, reduce the power of it by 25%. More reasonable than your proposals for Q, so there's that. You are also incorrect on the "even more potent than Shen's W" front. Shen's W lasts 1.75 seconds, so Jax E is technically better in that regard. Except that ignores a few critical details. First of all, Jax E makes himself tankier. Shen W makes anyone in the radius tankier, and it can be reposition. This means that in a teamfight, it is a vastly stronger ability. So a duelist is a stronger duelist, and a teamfighter is a better teamfighter.

Regarding the "even when he's hit by CC!!!!!" bit, that's not special. I can't think of many damage reduction abilities that are disabled by CC. Meditate is one, but I can't think of any others.

R Nerfs: This is the other part that would gut him. His ult passive isn't, believe it or not, broken. He doesn't burst people down like an assassin, and he isn't considered a bruiser. His ult passive grants the equivalent of 33/53/73 (+23.3% AP) per hit. This means that, at level 4, Kayle E does 3 less damage per hit than Jax ult, with more AP scaling. At level 9, Kayle E does 13 less damage than his ult passive (at level 3 so he is level 16 and it's late game), and still has a higher AP scaling. If Kayle has 200 AP, her E does more damage. Teemo E is roughly the same story, and very few people are accusing either ability of being broken. At least, past Bronze.

It isn't that bursty, seeing as it needs a minimum of 3 hits to trigger. Even with auto resets, it takes at least .7 seconds to trigger, for damage that honestly is underwhelming when it comes to burst. Unless you are playing against an AP Jax, in which case go buy a lottery ticket. The lack of a sacrifice is also par for the course.

The Q-E combo. What exactly makes it broken? I'm honestly unsure where you are coming from.