Talk:Ekko/@comment-25932195-20150607065659

The luden's & lich build is trash in my opinion. Sure it helps him chase and burst squishies that don't normally build significant MR, but it also reduces his survivablity outside of mobility. Think echo and lich leaves 2 slots open, as one is rabadon's, and sorc shoes. Of those 2 open slots, one is going to be void staff or else you fall off hard mid-late game. This leaves one defensive item, in which burst and / or mobile mages (LB, Ahri, Annie) would force an ulty if he gets caught, or outright kill him.

At the same time, if instead the defensive item is abyssal, AD hypercarries would outsustain the fight with their 6 item build as well. Jinx would practically 2 shot him. Urgot would win any 1v1 fight. Fiora, Yi, Talon all come to mind that could outburst or trade an ekko if on similar items.

All in all, hourglass & abyssal are so important to his surviving his poke and run kit that there is no room for both lich and luden's. Hourglass also has amazing synergy with his kit; use it bait a kill cast W Q, stasis, Q returns, stasis ends, E into the W field, then ult on top of them.