Talk:Riven/@comment-61.18.170.133-20120228051031/@comment-95.172.231.233-20120228115838

Your arguments contradict each other.

You say we need to zone her to win against her, yet you say we shouldn't get close to her or try and chase her off. Tell me how do i zone someone without pushing against them.

the reason she is Op is her early game is rediculous, her combo can pretty much kill you in one, there is no other champion that can do that at level one, just one of her cooldowns can kill you from full health unless you are a tank, tell me any other champ that can do that. Which considering she is the very difinition of a snowball champ does not help. It's easy for her to feed on most champs in early game. The other team has no option but to push or she ends up snowballing anyway.