Talk:Jarvan IV/@comment-209.23.96.40-20130101200649/@comment-125.194.203.150-20130102040547

I start cloth + pots on J4 all the time. The slower speed is hardly noticable when you use the superior sustain given by a cloth start (up to 3 health pots left usually) to gank lanes and counter jungle. It is especially valuable against a predictable jungler or one who you know is going for an early gank toplane.

Jungle gold is laughable now and investing 300g is a further money sink for many junglers that have an aggressive early game.