Talk:Yasuo/@comment-25562166-20150317181650/@comment-8506165-20150403013143

"You aren't making a case. You're stating your opinion of Yasuo being broken as if it was a fact. Your so called case is citing his kit word for word, then saying look how bad it is. Do you know why I don't acknowledge your opinion as valid? It's because you seriously think that you know more about game design than Riot, and that your opinions on Yasuo are so true that unless CertainlyT explains why you're wrong, you're right."

...I specifically said I wasn't going to make the case, because you didn't seem interested in hearing it. You're now acting as if I did try and make the case, and criticising me for not doing so adequately? I never claimed to be a game design graduate, all I said is that taking Riot's balance/design decisions before seeing them subjected to actual gameplay as some kind of gospel is... well, silly, given that Riot themselves say that 30 minutes on live is more rigorous balance testing than all their internal playtesting combined. I then said that if CertainlyT systematically demolished my points I'd listen, to draw a contrast to the "CertainlyT works for a big company so he can't be wrong on balance" line. Indeed, I cited Riot's poor balance solution to Yas as being one of my arguments - they don't seem to have found a solution to his kit that pleases both Yasuo players and people who have to play against Yas. And some of my points against Yasuo's design are drawn from things I've seen Riot's designers say.

Did you read my post? I mentioned I didn't specifically say "broken" myself at any point except for quotes. I then said "poorly designed" could be considered synonymous, but that's defining a standard and thus making it less subjective at the very least. I said I wasn't going to argue in depth because you didn't seem interested and this has somehow translated into me being Harry Wormwood? This is kind of why I didn't want to go into depth.

...Perhaps we've misunderstood each other and tensions have run a bit high though. If something I said made you think I didn't care about any points you could make because they were just wrong, then... well, that wasn't my intent. I thought there wasn't much point my going into detail because you said that you felt arguing about Yasuo was "pointless", but you still put your point of view forward so I offered my own. You responded, so I responded in turn. Then you told me to stop calling him "broken", which I feel I never really did in the first place, so I got a little frustrated and perhaps a bit too acerbic. If so, I apologise. At the very least... let's agree to disagree?