Talk:Jarvan IV/@comment-3166305-20120506013704/@comment-15562896-20120507123922

I play him a lot as jungler/top, and toplane I find him even stronger than as jungler.

I don't even level W before I'm forced to, maxing Q first. LS quints, AD reds, starting boots & 3/4 pots. Double doran's brutalizer phage trinity randuin/aegis GG.

His harass combo is very strong on basically anyone, wait for them to go in for a creep, E right behind them, Q to them, AA (passive), back off. Insane kill potential post six.

The only champion that really destroys me in lane is actually Riven. I guess I could win against her but I would have to max E first and go with tons of armor and play pretty passive. Lee Sin loses to Jarvan 1-7 if maxing W. Just stand inside your creeps, everytime he goes in for a last hit, E Q AA him and back off inside your creeps, he really cant do shit he can't Q you.

Plazmuh's guide on solomid.net is really amazing if you're looking for advices on top lane Jarvan IV.