Talk:Veigar/@comment-5663971-20150214031144

Psh! E nerf is quite overboard for my tastes. W radius is quite small and is quite easy to dodge even if you're inside the cage. Q being a two target skillshot doesn't even guarantee that it will make it to the caged target and if it does, you have quite the leeway to dodge.

You wouldn't even try catching people off the edge now. The cast time + delay will take you >1 second to lay it down the ground and by then the enemy doesn't even need a dash to get away. Trying to catch off the edge will only get them out the circle.

The very least I could propose is reducing the stun's radius to just around ~300, or making it into an ellipse (around 250 short axis, 375 long axis) elongating perpendicularly to the cast like a wall. These give a larger skill limit on landing the stun because it's easier to get across, but when caught inside, it gets harder to evade.

Bonus: ellipses are quite common in space, almost all orbits come in those shapes. and making Veigar's stun quite a unique flair.