Talk:Fiora/@comment-5494818-20140509153323/@comment-6281696-20140510204941

Seriously, did people forget how countering works since the end of S3? I stopped playing her midway in S3 simply because every common match up was a pain in the ass to deal with as they pretty much all had accidental counters even if they were awefull, accidental CC coinciding with her E and such. Or they had something to break her ulti with, or they just waited 4 seconds after you engage and then disengage so you can't Q on them again. Or they have a much easier time harrasing/trading due to longer range/more managable manacosts. Or they aren't AA reliant so they don't give a toss about that one missed AA, or they AA so often they don't care either. Really the only ones that care are champions with empowered attacks like Nasus... Etc.

As for wards, given how fast the average jungler is currently they really don't work all that well, not unless you are already relativly close to safety or have ways to disengage or CC the oncoming Jungler with a gapcloser & mobility boots and a trinity or Zephyr and high base movementspeed (though that might just be my luck in terms of the junglers I face regularly.. really wish they did something about that..).