Talk:Garen the Night of Demacia/@comment-3358335-20111007173239/@comment-4304118-20111007185104

Since his IP Drop you will see a lot of Garens with not the best setup, if you build him too tanky he does little damage, if you build all out ad you melt before finishing your Judgment, later in the game you should spin for the utility, AoE and when chasing or kiting other melees, if you built like a true tanky dps that's it, he maybe easy to pick and play, but he still has some skillcap that only comes with experience such as ult usage, knowing when to use your skills, which melees you can  charge head on and which you should kite and hit with the tip of your spin.

Why use a champ that it's so dependant on early kills and good farm to be useful later in the game? becuase he is so consistent early game, you will rarely lose early game fights unless you get ingited+exhausted or you pull too much minion aggro.

When I think of a Weak champion I think of Wukong, which ultimate is fairly subpar comparing it to Garen's E, which is a skill with 1/10 the cooldown, among other details, only saving grace is the knock up.

<3 Garen