Talk:Udyr/@comment-7846894-20140521153605/@comment-5955640-20140522012858

You seem to be talking about solo laning. Which is something I wouldn't have an Udyr do. He doesn't seem like a strong enough bully in general to deal with said champs effectively. Phoenix clears faster. Getting you the items to be tanky is good. But I wouldn't have thought that you could outduel someone with phoenix even with Feral Flare if the opponent had serious damage or DPS.

I've seen Udyrs finish off people with Phoenix but Not quite for a sustained fight but even then it would be switching modes back and forth.