Talk:Sion/@comment-25532677-20150903043038/@comment-26203093-20150905111651

Not being stupid in this situation means sitting back and not getting killed. Still means losing a lane.

Just go over the kit: Both are melee, no advantage to either. Riven hits harder, advantage riven.

Both have shields, start about the same, the math causes riven's to be better mid, sion's better late. We're discussing laning, later doesn't matter. Riven, again.

Sion relies on his Q for damage and CC, cancelling it early to guarantee damage only slows - the slow can be ignored. channeling it longer gets it interupted. Gets sion nothing. she has 2 interrupts. even if she doesn't she can dash to avoid it. 85% of the time: advantage riven.

which brings us to the shout. skill shot. vs someone with 4 dashes. a skill shot with a slow. vs someone with 4 dashes. 4 dashes that aren't affected by slows. even if she's hit by it, she doesn't have much of a problem. And even that is 15% of the time.

Assuming a gaping skill difference doesn't make for much of an argument, and even if the players are at an equal skill level, one kit is a nightmare for the other. This is why you lane trade and don't have teemo laning against annie or leblanc, but make volibear miserable with him instead. He's seriously better off against most midlaners.

But by all means, I'd love to know how a Sion savant counters riven.