Talk:Nocturne/@comment-10873040-20150712030504/@comment-25867286-20150814001711

Seriously. You either force the enemy to back away or you win the trade/fight.

You don't need to LAND abilities many times; many times you just need the pressure.

I main Viktor and I can assure you that about 50-75% of the times I use my W I don't stun anyone nor do I EXPECT to stun anyone.