Talk:Garen/@comment-77.105.16.187-20120713145107/@comment-78.147.224.222-20120713183435

thornmail is not a good choice. better going randuins or possibly atmas. and its not the fact he can become an extremely tanky tank that makes him unviable, its the fact he doesnt fit into the meta well. he can top but is countered by quite a few popular top champs and also while being a tank he has 0 cc so cant protect your carry.