Talk:Jarvan IV/@comment-85.177.148.216-20110627200548

talking about his ultimate: FUCK! you always do it wrong. 1. teammates call you a noob because they died inside your ultimate area (even if you released it in time just for them) 2. teammates call you a noob because they can't reach inside your ultimate area (if they are melee and didn't initiate the fight) 3. teammates call you a noob for not using jarvan ultimate at all

someone tell me how to use the ult reasonable?

moreover, isn't jarvan ult very easy counterable? i'm not even talking about flash... name me one hero that can't escape his ult area. yes, there are heroes, but while you are thinking about to name one think about those that can easily escape with one of their DEFAULT skills.

don't get me wrong, i love playing with him. but i found out playing him takes some skill.