User blog comment:BBilge/This site really needs: Wikia staff intervention/@comment-3997191-20110714010334/@comment-1603044-20110715091413

@NeonSpotlight:

Although there isn't a right way to run things per se, there is always a best way. Law, rules, regulations, morals, and such are not relative nor subjective; there is always going to be a most effective way for setting them up and enforcing them (that does not necessarily mean it's known, however). If there wasn't, people would be wrong to ever disagree about differences in methodology (this ranges from how to run a wiki to how to run a government). I offer a counterexample to further support my point: if different rules worked for different communities, then you could have trolls running amuck anywhere they please (here, LoL forums, etc.) by claiming they are a specific community and you wouldn't be permitted to stop them. To state a clearer and more extreme example, a community could legalize murder.

BBlige is claiming that there is a specific way a wiki should be run and is offering support for his argument by saying that Wikipedia and other Wikia sites are successful because of their specific rulesets being enforced (he is claiming the two are analogous and an extrapolation can be made; he is right in both instances). I suggest that instead of claiming he's inhibiting creativity because of his mindset and fallaciously claiming relativism that you address his actual argument. As it stands, his side of the argument is supported and has yet to be refuted. Also, the only way he'd be inhibiting creativity is if he was unreceptive to other ideas; simply claiming that there is a certain most effective is not unreceptive but opinion. He could easily look into other ideas while maintaining his current mindset (of course, he should offer support for why other ideas or systems will not work).

@Asperon Thom:

I'll respond to your points one-by-one.

1. Perhaps that is a flaw in their system or that the differences between Wikipedia and LoLWikia allow for their system to be run a bit differently; do not hastily conclude. Either way, the point BBlige makes is that he feels an admin needs to intervene in the current matter. 2. Your statement of LoLWikia being a repository of numbers isn't clear; what exactly is a repository of numbers and how does it differ from a repository of articles? 3 & 4 (and subsequently your conclusion): Wikipedia and LoLWikia are not the same, so there's no need to state the obvious. The issue here is that your assertion of there being no right way to run a wiki rests on Wikipedia and LoLWikia being exactly the same, and we know that is not the case (so your argument falls apart there because you contradicted yourself). Another point to consider is that just because something is one way does not mean it should be that way (commonly called the is-ought problem). If that was the case, then it would've been nigh impossible for us (and consequently wrong of us) to outlaw slavery in the US.

Now, let's have a civil and legitimate discussion.