Talk:Vayne/@comment-5077844-20141219184132/@comment-8506165-20150217142517

So when Kha'Zix was picked all the time, people found him incredibly fun, and he just coincidentally stopped being fun after he got nerfed, despite keeping the same kit? I don't buy it.

Yeah, there are people out there who will just play literally whatever they like. There are Urgot mains, for instance. And some people will play things other than the current meta, although maybe staying away from the very bottom balance rungs. But generally, in the majority of cases, people don't pick someone who they expect to lose them the game.

I think the real reason high pickrate and low winrate aren't in conflict is because a champion can be strong and still have a crappy winrate. LeBlanc is a good example: she was stomping the higher echelons of competitive when she got her silence removed, proving that in some circumstances she could be a strong pick, but her SoloQ winrate was always atrocious. Why? Well, people who can't play LeBlanc playing her anyway because "the pros did it, it must be OP" and of course the fact that LCS games and random SoloQ games are totally different environments. I somehow doubt though that it's because LeBlanc was actually weak and never deserved nerfing, but the pros just had so much fun with her that they mastered her enough to overcome her innate weakness.