Talk:Veigar/@comment-5764211-20130720153620/@comment-5256197-20130722121758

He has so good ratios because after Event Horizon, he doesn't have that much of a team fight presence. He'll one-shot one enemy squishy sure, but so does every other AP mid and they'll have something else to give to that team fight (mainly AOE damage).

His Dark Matter in reality does have 16 sec cooldown, because you'll never hit it without a stun.

Veigar's gonna Veigar. If you feed one, surely enough you'll find him sitting in your brushes looking to one-shot anyone who enters, taking some monies and AP and laughing maniacly. Or atleast that's what I do.

1100 AP on Veigar is pretty extreme. You'd need to have really optimized AP build, lasthit like 200 creeps with your Q, and farmed some champions on top of that. At that state of the game squishy carries are pretty binary; if you get caught you die, if you catch someone they die.

Malzahar and LeBlanc scale imo better than Veigar (and all of then are assassin-ish types). Malz has way better AOE damage and LB has so much mobility either to get to that squishy or to never get caught.