Talk:Garen/@comment-5266525-20131110023424/@comment-4304118-20131114170343

I fail to see how his Teamfight pressence can be garbage as long as he makes his Judgment count. In such extreme case you should just go really hard on their carry and train it into the ground, without 2 of their damage dealers into you, you should be able to tank their damage and chew their marksman or their assassin/mage, maybe both.

Your point is still true, Garen needs someone else that can start fights so he can go in and do his thing, as he lacks disables and gapclosers, something like Leona Support and Hecarim Jungle for maximize his AoE damage and still solid ST nuke, it's a teamgame after all and Garen is still one of the champions that snowball the most on his class at least.

Alas, he used to be one of the best 2vs1 laners but then his lategame was pretty bad unless extremely ahead.