Talk:Renekton/@comment-174.89.158.43-20121106195715/@comment-209.6.233.88-20121108043138

With rene you don't want autoattacking power as that isn't where his damage comes from. He's supposed to be an off-tank, not a carry. A beefy chuck of harassment if you will. Yes his W procs, but it's not worth it because you're stunning yourself as well. Anytime you're not doing autoattacking using that build, you're losing most of your damage. His W is meant to just prevent an enemy, and unfortunately himself, from participating in the battle for a bit. This usually means slicing in, filling your rage with Q and then stun their ADC for 1.5 seconds to prevent those two autoattacks they would get in that period. You're supposed to stay on them and not back off. You could argue that the autoattacking build allows you to do that, but they WILL have a higher attack speed that you will and they WILL have more life steal.

Secondly, your plentiful AoE abilities that you should be spamming will do less over all damage. Be hounding down the carry and chasing them while they kite, you are put at a disadvantage. Every second they juke you and get a pot shot off, that time wasted of you floundering after them. Meanwhile, the rest of your team is getting screwed over because a main portion of the front line up and left, leaving a squishy ADC/Support/AP and maybe a slightly tanky jungle (here's hoping) alone with their bruiser who probably does more late game damage than you, their jungler who could also be an offtank because instead of trying to have their top carry, they can split tanking between the two of them, a support and a ap carry. They pretty much have more damage than you, and your team will most likely lose that exchange and even if you got their ADC, they'll clean you up in a few moments.

Rene is meant to be in the heart of the battle, hence the purpose of his Ult, his Q and E. He is at his best when his rage is full, which means procing his passive using his q against more than just 1 target. If you really want an autoattacker, take someone who actually has an autoattack speed buff like Olaf. On hit synergizes with attack speed, something that Rene lacks.