Talk:Kayle/@comment-17609523-20140117112422/@comment-24142954-20140206023037

>The Sustain talk isn't even worth talkin about. I did say that damage was surpassed by DFG but not the sustain. Lets get the Sustain outta the way first. Im talkin HP gainbacks, DFG doesnt even have that. >Also, Kayle's E lets her user BOTH sustains, Life Steal AND Spell Vamp. The item provides 45 AD which lets u make use of the LS portion.

1. The sustain advantage is incredibly marginal. I showed this quite convincingly.

2. DFG absolutely has "HP gainbacks". AP and CDR = HP on Kayle, and DFG provides both. Please read my posts before you say something like this, because I already explained this in detail.

3. The fact that Kayle's E benefits from "both sustains" is a DRAWBACK, not an advantage! Imagine 3 champions. Champion A does 100 physical damage. Champion B does 100 magic damage. Champion C does 50 magic and 50 physical damage. Now give each champion a total of 20 lifesteal and/or spellvamp, split however they want. Champion A takes 20% lifesteal, and gains 20 HP from their damage. Champion B takes 20% spellvamp, and gains 20 HP from their damage. Champion C takes 10% lifesteal and 10% spellvamp, and gains 10 HP from their damage! This, in a nutshell, is why Hybrid builds are so bad. The stats simply don't synergize. Champion C could have just as easily gone with 20% lifesteal and gotten THE SAME amount of sustain, even though their damage is mixed!

>Combine that with the Spell Vamp, you gain quite alot of HP back contrary to popular belief.

4. You need to prove this statement, because I have gone out of my way already to show that you are wrong. You can't just assert this shit and expect people to believe you. Do the math, or accept that you really have nothing to back up your claims except hope and prayers.