User talk:Sam 3010

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Promotions
Hey sorry I couldn't find the promotions under your contributions but here are the promotion boxes:

--Technology Wizard,   Rollback Editor  21:44, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

A Question
Hi. I was trying to edit Jarvan's AD page and for some reason, every time that I preview it, it will move everything to the right. Can you help me? --Technology Wizard,   Rollback Editor  02:52, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Name change?
Hi there. I've been trying to figure out if there's a way to change the log-in ID on this site. I'd kind of like to use my League of Legends name if possible but it doesn't seem like it's possible. Any ideas? CCoville 14:10, April 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * Special:ContactWikia 15:02, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Strategy Page Question
Yo Sam, so I was about to restore a portion of the Tryndamere page about "Countering" that some Anon had deleted, but then a question struck me.

Do you think that a section on "Countering" should be included in the strategy page of every champion? Personally, I think that information is just as important, if not more important than advice on how to play as the champion and needs to be put somewhere, but I'd like to have an authoratative stance before I go gung-ho on the wiki.

Mr Lovely 18:01, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

I hit the mother load!
Sam I have discovered VERY useful information about the alpha items that will interest you a lot! I have the icons and I even have some icons for the old Champion Icons from the beta! Please see if you can go online soon! I am very happy to say that I found the alpha item icons! --Technology Wizard,   Rollback Editor  23:18, April 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * Congratulations for figuring out what a "Windows Explorer" is... 23:32, April 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks! --Technology Wizard,  Wiki-wordmark.png  Rollback Editor  23:35, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

Quotes
This is the new quote formatting. It is superior. 00:40, April 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * Errr... besides the new capitaliation (or lowercase-tion?) on the headings, and the obviously-a-joke Blitzcrank Quotes, what's the difference? Sam 3010 00:54, April 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * Italics are used for emphasis. Also that's how Blitz speaks, blame Riot 01:03, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Interesting potential project/idea/discussion
Yet again the topic of similar items has come up...discussion on Texas Snyper's talk page. Vyrolan 15:17, April 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * I conceeded my point and removed the items from the elixir pages. Texas Snyper 15:36, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Temporary question...
Hello! I just spotted the badges and wondered why I didn't have the 'Right into the Spot' one from my Lich Bane edit a while back. Maybe something's broken? Sigh.. it seems 'Leave a Message' doesn't start a new section when the text box is blank o.o whoops. LieAfterLie 16:01, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Question
Many champion pages have the AD tags on their normal pages. Am I supposed to add them there too? You can look at for example. His tags are the ones that are going to be on his AD page.

--Technology Wizard,   Rollback Editor  20:28, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Ok. Also please title your messages. When you have a chance, go online so I can figure out how to add the link to my blog, contributions, and talk page. --Technology Wizard,   Rollback Editor  20:35, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Champion Base HP Conventions
I've caught a couple champions with their HP values listed wrong. I've assumed the convention for Base HP stats is as seen on, for 2 examples, Anivia's and Sion's pages, where there is a base value and a value used for increasing it at every level. Anivia's is 350 (+70), which actually means her HP at level 1 is 420, not 350.

I caught Master Yi's HP listed wrong a month or two ago, and just wrote it off as a simple mistake, but I just caught Pantheon's listed incorrectly as well, which raises the question "just how many are listed incorrectly anyway?" I mean I was a little confused at first what 350 (+70) for Anivia meant, but even Pantheon's mana is listed this way [he starts at 244, (210+34) and not just the listed 210], so I'm just going to go around correcting the ones I find.

EnthusiasmD 20:55, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Interesting Stats
Hey Sam, the recent fixes to our champions statistics got me interested in things like who has the most/least health, magic base damage ect. So i cut and pasted our champ statistics spread sheet and quickly calculated champion health at each level. Anivia is the lowest at level 1 while Soraka is the lowest at level 18. I think ill continue doing this when ever im board, my question to you is where would this information best be put. Since it has to do with champion statistics i was considering putting it in the notes section on the first tab but it could also go in the strategy section or it could also be considered trivia. For now i put a note in Anivia's and Soraka's trivia section. Im asking you since you seem to be the closet to a content director for champions we have. Exiton =:> 23:50, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Hola
Hi, thanks for the shout-out! LED ZEPPELIN FOREVER!!! 02:44, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Champion Relationships
Hey Sam. I was thinking about the champions and how they interact to each other. What do you think about making tables/graphs/charts of the champion relationships. Like the siblings or &. Maybe we can make a table. Let me know what you think. --Technology Wizard,   Rollback Editor  05:47, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Synergy List Project
I can start up with the project for cleaning up/working out the synergy lists and similar items. Texas Snyper 07:30, April 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * I started a blog post where we can begin sorting everything out: Item Synergy Project. Texas Snyper 08:25, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Champion Strategies
Hey Sam. I'm not sure if you've had this discussion before, if yes please point me to it. I tried to look for an example on other champions, but couldn't find any, and I don't want to waste time going through all of them. In any case, I wanted to ask what is the sections that we are putting toghether on the strategy page? So far we have: I think there ought to be a section for just general strategy, for example, there's a lot of info that relates to the role of a champion on the team and how to go about it, which technically doesn't relate to any of the existing sections. I was thinking what are you thoughts on that, put that sort of info before the Skill usage section, just under strategies. Or make a separate category for it? --AntiZig (talk, contribs) 15:25, April 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * Skill Usage
 * Build Usage
 * Recommended Build

Champion Art Spotlights
Hey Sam. I think that it is obvious that Riot is making an Art Spotlight for every champion now. I don't think that we need to keep putting, under the trivia pages, "This champion is the 8th champion to have an art spotlight", because eventually it will be ridiculous to say, "This champion in the 47th champion with an art spotlight". Let me know what you think. --Technology Wizard,   Rollback Editor  21:44, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Introduction
Hi Sam. Im new and I wanted to learn how to edit and learn the basics. I was referred by Technology Wizard.

Kenziiee 02:11, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Nice to see you here Kenziiee! --Technology Wizard,   Rollback Editor  02:13, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Excess period-ing
What's with that? Another meeting that I missed? It looks really damn funky... 09:18, April 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yep, a meeting you missed oh so long time ago. It doesn't really affect anyone anyways. Btw how do you thing we could improve the Ability Table in case there are double damageing effects with the same numbers. I added a sentence about that in Lee Sin's, Akali and Anivia pages for that. Sam 3010 09:21, April 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * ...I'm a perfectionist, it ticks me off big time... How come no one ever informs me of these "meetings"... As for dual-abilities, I kinda lack proper code monkeyness and can't really figure out how to make 'em look good with the current table 09:28, April 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Maybe a consistent broken separator... Yeah, that would work, fetch me a code monkey! 09:38, April 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Please make it so that every box has borders, or revert it so it looks like before. Right now it looks so messy with only the sides of the table having box borders. Sam 3010 12:03, April 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Was kinda the point in making only the sides be boxed... Innates usually don't level up, and with all the "Ability"/"Description"/"Leveling up" thing... Hmm... 12:16, April 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * There, happy? 13:20, April 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, yeah. It looks different, but I guess we can get accustomed. Sam 3010 13:29, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

hai hai
Can you check my Blog Page out please for the Team Composition article and let me know what you think? HyperOmega 15:56, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Hello. Can you do me a favor and change the name of the Doran Blade I just added. It says Doran's Blade 2 because there was an existing Doran's Blade. Can you delete the bad quality one and rename mine, because I don't know how. --Technology Wizard,   Rollback Editor  18:56, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Champion Squares
Hey Sam, where do I go to fix the champion square picture when I want to expand the champion's name? I've been using (|image =) so far, but I get the blue lines around the square. I'd like to know how to get the fade into black squares. --Cidem1324 02:31, April 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * S'all a bunch of redirect pages (for custom names) that lead to the original square, like File:Luxanna"Lux"CrownguardSquare.png, or you can just add  |image=LeBlancSquare.png  to the infobox... But then you can't do this:  14:33, April 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Use Lux --Zelgadis87 14:47, April 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * But I dun wanna... 15:02, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

project pages
Hey Sam. I might have brought this up before, but, what are your thoughts on asking all the heads of the projects on wiki to organize a forum page for each of the projects they are running? Like I would make a page for patch notes, jungling and community portal revamp. others would do theirs. Let me know what you think. --AntiZig (talk, contribs) 14:12, April 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Or use proper project pages like... League of Legends Wiki:Patch Notes - KazMx (Message me! E-Mail me!   Edits! )  14:19, April 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * I think the forum pages are a wonderful way for people to get to know the forums better. You can add a link to the specific forum pages on Wikia Navigation. Sam 3010 20:22, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Champions by release date
Hey Sam, since Season 2 is about to start, I was thinking of categorizing champions by their release date.. something like "Season 1 Champion", "Alpha Champion" and so on... First of all, do you think it could be useful ? Second, while I am at it, I could add a category for the various years, like "2011 champion". Do you think it's too much ? Third, what would you call the period of time after Beta but before Season 1 ? "Pre-season 1" ? --Zelgadis87 14:57, April 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * "Alpha Champion" sounds funky... We called 'em "Original 40", and yeah, "Pre-season 1" 15:05, April 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * The original 40 includes both Alpha and Beta champions unfortunately.. --Zelgadis87 15:38, April 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * I guess it could be "Alpha Stage Release" for the original 17, "Beta Stage Release" for champions 18-40, "Pre-Season 1 Release" Udyr-Kog'maw, "Season 1 Release" Xin Zhao-, and the ones after Season 1 is over could be called: "Pre-Season 2 Release". Why Release? Well, because it sets a theme and it's accurate. Sam 3010 20:08, April 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Don't you dare capitalize those... 20:19, April 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Awww, ok. only capitalize the first letter, >.< Sam 3010 20:21, April 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Should I add the release year too or not ? "2009/10/11 Release" ? (I love how much Nystus hates capitalized letters XD) --Zelgadis87 22:17, April 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm a glorious hypocritical Grammar Nazi 22:27, April 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, why not? Sam 3010 22:19, April 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Dunno, maybe it was too much ;P. Almost time for me to go to bed, I'll do it tomorrow then! --Zelgadis87 22:21, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

My First Mini Project
Hey Sam. I'm not sure if you remember my first mini project. It was about changing the capitalization of the champion titles. Anyway, I am informing you that Nystus keeps changing them back to the way they were before I had finished the project. Also, I had changed Twisted Fate's ability, Pick a Card, to make a more readable and understandable, but he has added a block onto it, so now I no longer can edit it. --Technology Wizard,   Rollback Editor  21:40, April 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd just love to get into the tiny grammatical details of why you don't capitalize "The" in titles... 21:44, April 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't remember that project sorry. The "The" should remain capitalized. EDIT:On the article and page name, I meant.Sam 3010 21:59, April 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * It neither should nor will 21:53, April 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, it will. There is no need to change over 300 page names. It's just a distinction to separate the name from the title it won't harm anyone even if it "ticks YOU off". Sam 3010 21:56, April 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * ...What page names... We're not talking about page names here 22:09, April 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I got confused. Err...ok that was bad. Sorry? I do agree with you in that they shouldn't be capitalized. Sam 3010 22:15, April 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * First let me say that this is Sam's page and I am asking him, not you. Second the blog is around Sam so if you want to check to see your approval, go ahead. --Technology Wizard,  Wiki-wordmark.png  Rollback Editor  21:55, April 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok, I hae found the blog and remember the idea, I was confused. What is the capitalization you are using now for the strategy pages, tell me an example page I can look to?Sam 3010 21:59, April 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * The example is in the blog. I used Ashe for an example. --Technology Wizard,  Wiki-wordmark.png  Rollback Editor  22:01, April 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * I meant a standard article page that I could look for. Also, two off-topic questions: 1.-When and how will you change your signature. 2.-Did we ever become friends on FB, if yes, why did you delete me, if no, sorry I think I just imagined it. Sam 3010 22:05, April 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well you can look at Twisted Fate, Nystus changed the capitalization back to the un-uniformed form. I need to figure out how to change the "Rollback Editor" part to a link to my blog/contribs. And no sorry I had not added you yet. --Technology Wizard,  Wiki-wordmark.png  Rollback Editor  22:08, April 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Look at my response to the blog, read it, carefully. The "The" will only be capitalized when in PAGE NAMES, or LINKS. Otherwise, it won't be ever. Sam 3010 22:15, April 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey can you take off the blocks from Twisted Fate an Blitzcrank's Background page? --Technology Wizard,  Wiki-wordmark.png  Rollback Editor  22:42, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Hello, there is a vandal who has been damaging a few pages. You can find him in the history of Corki, after me. Please ban him, thanks. 11:38, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

MoS update
Please read the following forum post. http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Manual_of_Style_Update

--AntiZig (talk, contribs) 14:23, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Potential rollback war on Singed strategy.
Riffeman and I seem to disagree on the use of the Wiki. Could result in a rollback war. Pre-emptively letting you know.

Asperon Thorn 20:27, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Your signature
Hi Sam, I got tired of you not having a link to talk page, so can you add this code to your preferences page:  User:Sam 3010/sig , also check the box that says "Custom Signature" Thanks. (if you wish to play around with it then just go to the page and edit it to your liking. --AntiZig (talk, contribs) 20:24, April 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ta da!? Sam 3010 20:34, April 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * 'Bout damn time... Been using it for ages and no one asked me anything -_- 20:42, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

Hey. I need to discuss a few things with you. If you can go online, please do so. --Technology Wizard,   Rollback Editor  02:55, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Wikia bugs page
Hey same I have gotten about all think I'm about to get out of the wikia community for bugs so I' going to go ahead and post this on the forums and start data mining the forums for bugs. I wouldn't mind if a few individuals started testing or the bugs found and updating my list as it goes. I feel their are a few indivduals that could be useful in undertaking this endevaour and really don't want to many people updating the bugs list right now. I wouldn't mind if Mr Lovely, NeonSpotlight, Texas Snyper, and Nystus updated my list as long as they test the bugs first but I really don't want anyone else doing it.

f you want to make a page specifically about bugs you can have it linked to the champions and patches.

Have a box setup for champions with bugs and then resolutions with patch history or linkage to show it was fixed.

Anyway thats all I have for now.Sagee Prime &quot;You Calm Down the Thunder and I&#39;ll Reap the Whirlwind&quot; 14:47, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Badges
Hey Sam. It seems that D3 has fixed the item badge icons. Unfortunately the servers are down so we will have to wait to talk about the badges. Talk to you soon. --Technology Wizard,   Rollback Editor  17:52, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Hi. Nystus keeps changing Zilean's background page. He won't let me adjust the capitalization and keeps changing it to the way he was during his recent incident. He also is changing all of the champion titles and the capitalization is different. If you took all of the champions, due to the capitalization, it would look disorganized and messy. You can look at 's title compared to 's --Technology Wizard,    Rollback Editor  18:30, April 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * I just answered on Nystuts page, he is doing that on commision. You should instead try to help him. Also we have discussed the capitalization on title. The "The" should be uncapitalized for the last time. 18:58, April 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah I noticed. So does this mean I can make them uniformed since they are all different? I can go change the "The" to "the". I am talking about the titles. Also, in the background pages, there are headings such as: Upon Selection, well he keeps reverting my edits after I change them to "Upon Selection" not "Upon selection".   --Technology Wizard,  Wiki-wordmark.png  Rollback Editor  18:38, April 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes you can help. Also, he is reverting them because that is the new rule. 18:58, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

A little assistance~
Hi there! I'm BladeFreak, and I was wondering if you can give me some assistant plz. I need to know how to change my icon... lol. Also! I was wondering if you can add me in-game (Bold FTW!)

BladeFreak 02:56, April 13, 2011 (UTC)BladeFreak

Categories
Ok sorry, I saw that some champions had the categories in their main page, but i will remove the ones I added. Silvoss 13:22, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

Blog comments disabled
Hey Sam, I can't seem to keep the comments section for my blog post open. Whenever I re-enable comments, they stay enabled for some time, then revert back to disabled |:. Don't really know what's wrong with it.. Can you check it out please? -- 13:27, April 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * I fix 13:29, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

RE: Tech ain't farming
You may not deny my logic! Leave me to my own grief of hatred and mourning of what I have left in life!

Shortly: I know :D I'm trollin'. D3Reap3R: Strategy Specialist 19:25, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

Your Own Vandal
Hello. I noticed some vandal was vandalizing your own page, but don't worry I fixed it! I also wanted to tell you that I found my signature. This way it isn't so long, but I still like it. --Technology Wizard  (Talk)   (Contributions)  20:01, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

Brand
Hey. . you edited my post to make it look like the anon post (That I posted) but you didn't remove the Anon post (Which was actually me) so now it looks like I just recopied some Anon. . .I don't suppose you could remove the post of the Anon (since I was that Anon)

Asperon Thorn 23:23, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

Fourms Link on Front Page
Hi Sam, im wondering if we should put a link to the forums right on the main front page of the wiki. Maby as an icon along with Champions, Summoner, Items etc... I know you can access it off the wiki navigation page but people don't really use it. I think putting it front and center will help give it more exposure to the community. Cheers! 23:40, April 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * I would use this icon [[File:Scroll of Teleportation.gif]]

Advanced Tagging
Hey Sam. I was thinking about the nest AD set and I was thinking about how I have to organize their tags but I have one question..where can I find the page with the categories that we decided on? I forgot where it was and I really need it! Also, I just got a lucky badge! :) 06:32, April 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Advanced_Tagging_Project 13:43, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Nystus' project
Hey I wanted to ask, since he was "comissioned" to do it, has this been reflected in MoS? If not I suggest we put it in there asap. -- 12:19, April 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * ...I got a project that I was comissioned to do? How come no one paid me/told me about it D:< 12:31, April 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * I just fancied the words, Nystus you were stubborn on the formatting, could you add it to the MoS? That way there will be no one to argue with you about capitalization. 13:43, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

CSS cache
Sam, just an heads up.. The css file is cached for a maximum of 24 hours. At this time, it's impossible to have caching issues with the abilities template :). -- 13:03, April 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * What does that mean? 13:43, April 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that message was pretty unclear, my bad :/. I meant that the message in the Community-messages-got-updated-thingy should be updated to remove that part about the issues with the template, since it's basically impossible that anyone will ever get a caching issue (the CTRL+F5 thing is used to force a cache refresh). -- 13:48, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Tech
I just think it's silly that he adds all the links with the ci template when it's totally unnecessary since you're already on that champ's page. Similarly it was funny that he didn' change the RoA. Also, it is crazy that he would even report that anon as a vandal. One tiny edit on a page that is OBVIOUSLY just an honest mistake and was trying to portray CORRECT information should not have even warranted a report which is something I just wanted to reinforce. He can't still constantly whine about how he was treated and simultaneously treat others the same way...you can't have it both ways. Also, I'm sure he brought this up to you with in-game chat...since he's always "asked Sam" or "told Sam about it" even though it's never on the talk pages...why can't he just communicate on the wiki like we all do? Vyrolan 20:47, April 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * My apologies...I meant no offense to you Sam. It just fits with...well it just fits.  Anyway, like I said I just thought it was funny that he didn't change RoA.  I actually thought his edit was silly.  If you say the full name "Zhonya's Hourglass" with the icon in one sentence, you should be able to just use the abbreviated "Hourglass" later in the same paragraph.  It's very clear what you mean by "Hourglass" in that situation...it's just unnecessarily verbose to spell out the entire item name every single time and also have the icon be there.   There's already so many champion/item/ability icons on those strategy pages that they can be a pain to read at times.  I contemplated just undoing his change but knew no good would come from that so I just edited it further to make it consistent. My edit summary was intended to be sarcastically comical, not offensive. Vyrolan 20:57, April 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry to cause you problems. =p   Did you get Brand yet?   If so, you can take out your frustrations quite well with his fiery combos. =) Vyrolan 21:06, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Rumble and the Monkey King
Hello! I am freaking out right now because I am the only one that knows about the next 2 champions and I attempted to create the pages. Please help me! 05:46, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Ok the pages are done. I am not sure if someone is going to change/delete them but I tried. I wish you were here right now so I can pour my excitement out on you!! Please take a look.. Rumble The Mechanized Menace and the second champion.. The Monkey King 06:44, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Am I allowed to put information into Lee Sin's AD page? I know some interactions between his abilities and spell shields, rylais, etc. Omnipherious 13:40, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Rumble's Square
Hello. I don't what going on with Rumble's square, but it's not displaying correctly. Can you check it out? If can't be done, can you delete the image instead? I'll reupload the Rumble's square. -- UberTri125  (#)    ($)  ''' "Buckle Up!" ''' 14:41, April 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * It's a cache problem, contacted Wikia about and waiting for help/answer 15:08, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! Seeing as it is my first official attempt to add a couple champion pages, I appreciate it! I was using that one because someone else ad uploaded it, I guess. Also Sam, I was alone last night. I mean there was annons and other people here commenting but I did all of this by myself. =) 14:57, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

In-game pics of skins
Hey Sammy. I saw a contributor suggest that we add in-game pics of the skins on the trivia page. I'm thinking It's a great idea, and i could manage to do it over the course of a week, depending on how much time i'm willing to spend. Leave me a message on my talk page or edit the community messages to if you want to discuss it. Rapacious 15:31, April 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * I like the idea but how would we get every skin to get a picture of? 15:34, April 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * Already been discussed multiple times - too much work for too little representation to take in-game pics
 * It's a great idea...we were discussing it on in-game chat a week ago or so. There's that one forum link where the guy maintains high-quality screenshots of all the existing skins. It's definitely a worthwhile thing IMHO. A lot of people care a lot about how the skins look in-game. Vyrolan 15:57, April 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah I agree it's a great idea because I'd like to know what the skin looks like before buying, but it wold take a lot of people to contribute in taking the pictures because there is A LOT of skins! 16:04, April 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * It's not that bad...you can actually use the official skins as "custom skins" in order to get screenshots of them without actually buying the skin. So we'd just need to own all the champs not all the skins. Vyrolan 17:30, April 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * Here is the forum thread mentioned. I'd just link to it on the champion skin page, re-uploading all of them here seems pointless. -- 16:17, April 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yea I guess...but that also assumes its kept up-to-date and not moved and stuff. Sam said in in-game chat IIRC that the guy said we could use all the images and upload here. /shrug Vyrolan 17:30, April 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * All images taken in-game are public property so we can just make a link, next to the skin name on the gallery, to the official forum attachment of the skin. 18:31, April 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * Linking to the images instead of uploading them makes much more sense, but it'll be harder to maintain (in case attachments are moved and stuff like that). Can we give more visibility (dun really know how) to the Champion skin article, and put a link to that thread there ? -- 18:48, April 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * I could just ask permission to download and use them on the forums, with the promisse of writing a disclaimer somewhere in the wiki. let me know what you think. Rapacious 20:41, April 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * I was thinking, first we can add a link to the thread on the Champion Skin article. Then we can do different things concerning each individual image: 1.-We could add a link (Skin Visualization) next to the skin name on the english gallery, like on the opposite side. 2.-We could upload all those images to the wiki with the format:  File:Akali CrimsonVisual.jpg . 3.-We could add a link, not the Encased Shadow Thread but to the Skin Viewer on the Chinese Website (on each determined skin), which I think is the best option. 21:04, April 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok, Sam. Let me know how i can help, and where i can find the code needed to do these things Rapacious 21:09, April 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok, Sam. Let me know how i can help, and where i can find the code needed to do these things Rapacious 21:09, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Right, so, something like this. "Model preview"? "Skin preview"? 22:13, April 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, like that. But we were working on figuring out the accomodation. I want the release date there too. And the Skin preview should be on the right on the original skin, and be much smaller on the other skins given there the cost will appear. Much smaller I mean with it being just the External link icon. 22:15, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

Deleting Messages
Hey Sam. I was wondering if it is ok for people to delete their messages because I left Nystus a message and he deleted it. Anyway if your wondering what I said here it is:

"==Your Issues==

Ok, I'm not sure if you can read (because I had left a comment like this before) or what your deal is but I want you to get something in your disturbed mind. I DO NOT like you! I am not here for you I don't care about what you do here. You think that your are hot stuff because you are an admin, when you are not. This isn't a playground where you can just go around and bully people and control them just because you are older (higher ranking). I am sick of your negative comments all of the time! Honestly you do nothing for me but bother me and make me feel irascible. You never help me out with anything and just berate me about everything I do wrong as if I were a vandal. It seems like you deliberately torment others to consummate your own exhilaration. If I am communicating with somebody that doesn't have anything to do with you, do you mind minding your own business and staying out of it? 20:56, April 15, 2011 (UTC)"